[05:19] <lotuspsychje> good morning to all
[06:27] <lordievader> Good morning
[06:38] <lotuspsychje> morning lordievader
[06:42] <lordievader> Hey lotuspsychje, how are you?
[06:42] <lotuspsychje> great lordievader today delivery of a hp envy to a customer
[06:43] <lordievader> Nice, with only Ubu loaded?
[06:44] <lotuspsychje> lordievader: im selling accesoires also and win repairs too
[06:44] <lotuspsychje> lordievader: but ill concentrate on ubuntu as much as i can
[06:44] <lotuspsychje> morning EriC^^
[06:44] <EriC^^> morning
[06:45] <lotuspsychje> EriC^^: we went to baby driver in theaters yesterday
[06:45] <lordievader> lotuspsychje: Right, nice :)
[06:45] <lordievader> Hey EriC^^
[06:45] <EriC^^> lotuspsychje: nice i catched it online
[06:45] <EriC^^> hey lordievader
[06:45] <EriC^^> lotuspsychje: you likey?
[06:46] <lotuspsychje> EriC^^: yeah was pretty original
[06:46] <EriC^^> there's a good movie coming out (i think) war of the planet apes or something
[06:46] <lotuspsychje> i always like robbery movies :p
[06:46] <EriC^^> heh :D
[06:47] <lotuspsychje> yeah its playing at theaters too EriC^^
[06:47] <EriC^^> i'm waiting for it to hit online
[06:47] <EriC^^> movienight.ws
[06:47] <EriC^^> i got a netflix trial btw
[06:47] <EriC^^> but they dont have anything :/
[06:47] <EriC^^> very lame
[06:47] <lotuspsychje> lol
[06:47] <EriC^^> my dad was here so i told him use that cc on it free trial
[06:47] <EriC^^> :D
[06:48] <EriC^^> all old movies
[06:48] <lordievader> EriC^^: We just finished season one of Dirk Gently on Netflix.
[06:48] <EriC^^> lordievader: any good?
[06:48] <lordievader> It was quite enjoyable, nothing like the books. But good fun.
[06:48] <EriC^^> aha cool
[06:49] <lordievader> Stranger Things is also very nice to watch.
[07:08] <EriC^^> aha
[07:37] <lotuspsychje> http://news.softpedia.com/news/ubports-working-lately-on-ubuntu-touch-port-for-nexus-5-based-on-ubuntu-16-04-517027.shtml
[09:58] <BluesKaj> Howdy folks
[11:44] <lotuspsychje> good afternoon to all
[11:45] <oerheks> hey lotuspsychje
[11:45] <lotuspsychje> hey oerheks can you warm yourself?
[11:46] <oerheks> 28.9 °C Feels Like 31 °C
[11:46] <oerheks> sure, if i turn on the heater
[11:46] <lotuspsychje> they say rain & thunder is comming but we didnt see a single drop yet
[11:46] <oerheks> we do .. https://www.buienradar.nl/home/onweer
[11:47] <lotuspsychje> welcome Tesla42 & Dreyk
[11:49] <lotuspsychje> oerheks: yesterday we went to cadzand to cool down :p
[11:51] <lotuspsychje> next on our list is breskens
[11:52] <oerheks> Zandvoort is 20 min away, on the bicycle
[11:52] <oerheks> no parking-fee, walking, waiting..
[11:52] <lotuspsychje> nice
[11:53] <lotuspsychje> alot of electric bikes in cadzand omg
[11:53] <lotuspsychje> popular cycling across the beachlines
[11:54] <oerheks> yes, fools in cars are silly
[11:55] <oerheks> black cars :-D
[11:55] <lotuspsychje> lol
[11:55] <oerheks> when you open the door, it is like an invisable fire
[11:56] <lotuspsychje> the batmobile?
[11:56] <oerheks> brrr aliens
[11:56] <lotuspsychje> lol
[11:58] <lotuspsychje> !info linux-image-generic xenial
[12:01] <lordievader> !info linux-image-generic artful
[12:02] <lotuspsychje> how come that lenovo of my customer had 4.8 kernel on .2 xenial?
[12:03] <lordievader> Is HWE still a thing?
[12:03] <lordievader> I.e. backporting a kernel of a newer release.
[12:03] <lotuspsychje> but i downloaded latest ubuntu iso of xenial
[12:04] <lotuspsychje> why isnt that 4.4.0.83 then?
[12:07] <lordievader> No idea, the Ubuntu kernel selection has always been somewhat of a mystery to me.
[12:08] <lotuspsychje> weird situation
[12:08] <nacc> what's the q?
[12:09] <lotuspsychje> aha
[12:09] <lotuspsychje> https://askubuntu.com/questions/885054/upgrade-16-04-2-lts-to-kernel-version-4-8
[12:10] <lotuspsychje> nacc: i had a lenovo xenial 16.04.2 box that had flickering bug on 4.8 kernel fresh iso
[12:10] <nacc> lotuspsychje: isntalled yourself, or as installed by the venodr?
[12:10] <lotuspsychje> nacc: i had to reinstall 16.04 to get back to 4.4 kernel to get rid of that bug
[12:11] <lotuspsychje> nacc: own install
[12:11] <nacc> lotuspsychje: no, you can install the correct kernel package by opting into it
[12:11] <nacc> lotuspsychje: linux-generic xserver-xorg vs. linux-generic-hwe-16.04 xserver-xorg-hwe-16.04
[12:12] <lotuspsychje> nacc: users have to install their own kernels by default?
[12:13] <nacc> lotuspsychje: not sure i follow
[12:14] <nacc> lotuspsychje: if you install 16.04.2, you wanted the hwe kernel
[12:14] <lotuspsychje> nacc: well latest .2 xenial iso resulted to 4.8 kernel on that box, is that normal?
[12:15] <nacc> lotuspsychje: yes, that's the hwe kernel
[12:15] <nacc> lotuspsychje: so the story is (for .2):
[12:15] <nacc> if you fresh isntall, you get hwe
[12:15] <nacc> if you upgrade from .1 -> .2 you have to opt-in
[12:15] <lotuspsychje> nacc: ok
[12:15] <nacc> i *believe* this was true for 14.04.* as well
[12:15] <lordievader> Thought so
[12:15] <lotuspsychje> nacc: can you explain the logic of that?
[12:15] <nacc> lotuspsychje: i'm not on the kernel team, so not really :)
[12:15] <lordievader> Isn't it true for all LTS releases?
[12:15] <nacc> lotuspsychje: but i think it's always been the way
[12:16] <lotuspsychje> oh okay tnx for clearing that out
[12:16] <nacc> lotuspsychje: that's why 16.04.1 is supported for 5 years on its
[12:16] <nacc> *its own
[12:16] <lotuspsychje> nacc: so to avoid fresh bugs for new customers i should stick to .1?
[12:18] <nacc> lotuspsychje: to be clear, .1 (updated) and .2 (updated) re the same, with different hwe stacks instaleld by default
[12:18] <lotuspsychje> kk
[19:14] <immu> EriC^^, BluesKaj lordievader
[19:15] <lordievader> Good evening immu
[19:16] <nicomachus> o/
[19:17] <nicomachus> daftykins around?
[19:17] <lordievader> Haven't seen him.
[19:19] <nicomachus> poop.
[19:55] <immu> Goodnight :) lordievader
[19:55] <lordievader> How are you doing?
[20:12] <immu> good
[20:12] <immu> listening to soul foul music
[20:12] <immu> wanna hear
[20:12] <lordievader> Nah, I'm going to bed soon
[20:13] <nicomachus> what are you listening on?
[20:13] <immu> youtunbe
[20:13] <immu> https://youtu.be/a18py61_F_w
[20:14] <immu> click on CC for english subtitles
[20:14] <immu> brb
[20:23] <immu> back
[20:25] <immu> lordievader, back EriC^^
[20:26] <immu> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-R5YWh45s6I another one
[20:39] <immu> goood nite