[05:19] good morning to all [06:27] Good morning [06:38] morning lordievader [06:42] Hey lotuspsychje, how are you? [06:42] great lordievader today delivery of a hp envy to a customer [06:43] Nice, with only Ubu loaded? [06:44] lordievader: im selling accesoires also and win repairs too [06:44] lordievader: but ill concentrate on ubuntu as much as i can [06:44] morning EriC^^ [06:44] morning [06:45] EriC^^: we went to baby driver in theaters yesterday [06:45] lotuspsychje: Right, nice :) [06:45] Hey EriC^^ [06:45] lotuspsychje: nice i catched it online [06:45] hey lordievader [06:45] lotuspsychje: you likey? [06:46] EriC^^: yeah was pretty original [06:46] there's a good movie coming out (i think) war of the planet apes or something [06:46] i always like robbery movies :p [06:46] heh :D [06:47] yeah its playing at theaters too EriC^^ [06:47] i'm waiting for it to hit online [06:47] movienight.ws [06:47] i got a netflix trial btw [06:47] but they dont have anything :/ [06:47] very lame [06:47] lol [06:47] my dad was here so i told him use that cc on it free trial [06:47] :D [06:48] all old movies [06:48] EriC^^: We just finished season one of Dirk Gently on Netflix. [06:48] lordievader: any good? [06:48] It was quite enjoyable, nothing like the books. But good fun. [06:48] aha cool [06:49] Stranger Things is also very nice to watch. [07:08] aha [07:37] http://news.softpedia.com/news/ubports-working-lately-on-ubuntu-touch-port-for-nexus-5-based-on-ubuntu-16-04-517027.shtml [09:58] Howdy folks [11:44] good afternoon to all [11:45] hey lotuspsychje [11:45] hey oerheks can you warm yourself? [11:46] 28.9 °C Feels Like 31 °C [11:46] sure, if i turn on the heater [11:46] they say rain & thunder is comming but we didnt see a single drop yet [11:46] we do .. https://www.buienradar.nl/home/onweer [11:47] welcome Tesla42 & Dreyk [11:49] oerheks: yesterday we went to cadzand to cool down :p [11:51] next on our list is breskens [11:52] Zandvoort is 20 min away, on the bicycle [11:52] no parking-fee, walking, waiting.. [11:52] nice [11:53] alot of electric bikes in cadzand omg [11:53] popular cycling across the beachlines [11:54] yes, fools in cars are silly [11:55] black cars :-D [11:55] lol [11:55] when you open the door, it is like an invisable fire [11:56] the batmobile? [11:56] brrr aliens [11:56] lol [11:58] !info linux-image-generic xenial [11:58] linux-image-generic (source: linux-meta): Generic Linux kernel image. In component main, is optional. Version 4.4.0.83.89 (xenial), package size 2 kB, installed size 13 kB [12:01] !info linux-image-generic artful [12:01] linux-image-generic (source: linux-meta): Generic Linux kernel image. In component main, is optional. Version 4.11.0.10.10 (artful), package size 2 kB, installed size 13 kB [12:02] how come that lenovo of my customer had 4.8 kernel on .2 xenial? [12:03] Is HWE still a thing? [12:03] I.e. backporting a kernel of a newer release. [12:03] but i downloaded latest ubuntu iso of xenial [12:04] why isnt that 4.4.0.83 then? [12:07] No idea, the Ubuntu kernel selection has always been somewhat of a mystery to me. [12:08] weird situation [12:08] what's the q? === JanC is now known as Guest74368 === JanC_ is now known as JanC [12:09] aha [12:09] https://askubuntu.com/questions/885054/upgrade-16-04-2-lts-to-kernel-version-4-8 [12:10] nacc: i had a lenovo xenial 16.04.2 box that had flickering bug on 4.8 kernel fresh iso [12:10] lotuspsychje: isntalled yourself, or as installed by the venodr? [12:10] nacc: i had to reinstall 16.04 to get back to 4.4 kernel to get rid of that bug [12:11] nacc: own install [12:11] lotuspsychje: no, you can install the correct kernel package by opting into it [12:11] lotuspsychje: linux-generic xserver-xorg vs. linux-generic-hwe-16.04 xserver-xorg-hwe-16.04 [12:12] nacc: users have to install their own kernels by default? [12:13] lotuspsychje: not sure i follow [12:14] lotuspsychje: if you install 16.04.2, you wanted the hwe kernel [12:14] nacc: well latest .2 xenial iso resulted to 4.8 kernel on that box, is that normal? [12:15] lotuspsychje: yes, that's the hwe kernel [12:15] lotuspsychje: so the story is (for .2): [12:15] if you fresh isntall, you get hwe [12:15] if you upgrade from .1 -> .2 you have to opt-in [12:15] nacc: ok [12:15] i *believe* this was true for 14.04.* as well [12:15] Thought so [12:15] nacc: can you explain the logic of that? [12:15] lotuspsychje: i'm not on the kernel team, so not really :) [12:15] Isn't it true for all LTS releases? [12:15] lotuspsychje: but i think it's always been the way [12:16] oh okay tnx for clearing that out [12:16] lotuspsychje: that's why 16.04.1 is supported for 5 years on its [12:16] *its own [12:16] nacc: so to avoid fresh bugs for new customers i should stick to .1? [12:18] lotuspsychje: to be clear, .1 (updated) and .2 (updated) re the same, with different hwe stacks instaleld by default [12:18] kk [19:14] EriC^^, BluesKaj lordievader [19:15] Good evening immu [19:16] o/ [19:17] daftykins around? [19:17] Haven't seen him. [19:19] poop. [19:55] Goodnight :) lordievader [19:55] How are you doing? [20:12] good [20:12] listening to soul foul music [20:12] wanna hear [20:12] Nah, I'm going to bed soon [20:13] what are you listening on? [20:13] youtunbe [20:13] https://youtu.be/a18py61_F_w [20:14] click on CC for english subtitles [20:14] brb [20:23] back [20:25] lordievader, back EriC^^ [20:26] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-R5YWh45s6I another one [20:39] goood nite === Guest33399 is now known as ariver