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lordievaderGood morning07:21
oerheksYakkety is EOL now, July 20, 201710:40
oerheks!yakkety10:40
ubot5Ubuntu 16.10 (Yakkety Yak) was the 25th release of Ubuntu. Download at http://www.ubuntu.com/download - Read the release notes at https://ubottu.com/y/yakkety10:40
oerheksya-ya-ya'll upgrade now10:41
BluesKajHi folks11:04
oerhekshi BluesKaj11:21
BluesKajhey oerheks11:21
ducassehi all11:46
BluesKajhey ducasse11:48
ducassehiya BluesKaj11:50
ducasseall well in canada?11:50
BluesKajwildfires still burning out west in BC, but all seems well here, hows Norsk today?11:51
ducasseslightly rainy, but good. not as hot as the past week, which is nice :)11:53
* BluesKaj nods12:02
BluesKajit's been 30 here the last couple of days ..hot enough for my old northerm bones :-)12:03
ducassemine as well, anything over 25 gets uncomfortable. luckily that doesn't happen very often here :)12:05
BluesKajyeah , I feel the same12:08
ducassedamn, seems the usb stick my rpi uses for the root fs is beginning to fail, thinking of trying a usb hard drive instead.12:09
BluesKajmicrosds don't last long if one uses it as the sole drive. I moved / to a usb hdd and the microsd is strictly for booting ..perhaps you don't neesed this tut, but here it is anyway, http://magnatecha.com/using-a-usb-drive-as-os-root-on-a-raspberry-pi/12:24
BluesKajerr need12:25
ducasseas it's already set up for root on usb stick, it should be trivial to move to a hdd. i just hope the fs is still ok.12:39
BluesKajmy /boot is still the microsdcard, but i would like to move the /boot to the HDD as well. Using a microsd to boot seems temporary to me..12:43
ducasseis that even possible on the rpi? i thought it *had* to boot off microsd?12:45
BluesKajI've seen tuts to move the whole works to boot directly off the hdd, but I tried a couple and both failed12:50
BluesKajI guess the microsd will last if it's only job is to boot the system :-)12:51
ducasseafaik the rpi has to boot off microsd as the firmware doesn't support anything else. that might be old info now, dunno.12:52
BluesKajwell, my system works well, altho I've been tempted to try again I'm sticking with what works until a definitive tutorial proves moving boot to the hdd actaually works12:56
ducassei try not to mess with mine at all as long as it does the job :)12:57
BluesKajyup12:58
ducassebbiab12:58
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lotus|artfulboxgood evening to all16:51
lotus|artfulbox300mb update on artful16:52
lotus|artfulboxlets c what that gives16:53
ducassehi lotus|artfulbox :)16:53
lotus|artfulboxhey hey ducasse how are you mate?16:53
* ducasse gives lotus a wb-hug :)16:53
lotus|artfulboxtnx :p16:53
ducasselot of work lately?16:54
lotus|artfulboxducasse, it has been okay few days off a week16:54
ducassesaw all your topic changes, glad the business is going ahead16:55
lotus|artfulboxyeah its working great for start ducasse16:55
lotus|artfulboxhttp://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2017/07/ubuntu-wants-know-apps-think-default-survey16:55
lotus|artfulboxhey Bashing-om17:02
Bashing-omlotus|artfulbox: Hey hey .. Pleasantly surprised to see you pop up this time of my day . No work ?17:04
lotus|artfulboxBashing-om, early shift today17:04
lotus|artfulbox!info linux-image-generic artful17:05
ubot5linux-image-generic (source: linux-meta): Generic Linux kernel image. In component main, is optional. Version 4.11.0.10.10 (artful), package size 2 kB, installed size 13 kB17:05
lotus|artfulboxhttp://news.softpedia.com/news/ubuntu-16-10-yakkety-yak-is-no-longer-supported-upgrade-to-ubuntu-17-04-now-517083.shtml17:06
lotus|artfulbox!16.1017:07
ubot5Ubuntu 16.10 (Yakkety Yak) was the 25th release of Ubuntu. Download at http://www.ubuntu.com/download - Read the release notes at https://ubottu.com/y/yakkety17:07
ducasseinstead of a download link, it should say it's eol17:07
lotus|artfulboxyeah17:08
lotus|artfulboxducasse, did they remove it from #ubuntu topic yet?17:09
oerheksask dax17:09
* oerheks loves highlighting ubotto-factoid-maintainers17:10
lotus|artfulboxlol17:10
ducasselotus|artfulbox: nope17:10
Bashing-omlotus|artfulbox: nope 2 "  official flavors, versions 14.04, 16.04, 16.10, 17.04 | Unofficial derivatives:"17:10
lotus|artfulboxsomeone has to do some work :p17:11
oerheksany ubuntu should have an expiring watermark on the desktop :-D17:11
lotus|artfulboxokay reboot after updates, wish me luck17:11
Bashing-omlotus|artfulbox: Not in my job description :P17:11
lotus|artfulboxyay17:14
lotus|artfulboxLinux artful-bugbox 4.11.0-10-generic #15-Ubuntu SMP Thu Jun 29 15:03:41 UTC 2017 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux17:14
ducasse!yay | lotus|artfulbox17:15
ubot5lotus|artfulbox: Glad you made it! :-)17:15
lotus|artfulboxtnx :p17:16
ducasseis the plan still to release with 4.12?17:18
lotus|artfulboxducasse, not sure17:19
lotus|artfulboxhttp://news.softpedia.com/news/canonical-outs-new-kernel-security-updates-for-all-supported-ubuntu-releases-517100.shtml17:19
lotus|artfulboxanoter reboot gnome asked17:30
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lotuspsychjeinstalled preload,rar,vlc,tweaked startup items, played with gnome tweaks17:34
Bashing-omlotuspsychje: And we have lift off ? - all to do again next release :)17:36
lotuspsychjeBashing-om, yeah all to get a nice & clean 18.0417:37
Bashing-omlotuspsychje: I got in mind when I get a fresh drive to install 17.10 - looking forward to 18.04 :)17:39
ducassestill some way off for that :)17:40
lotuspsychjeim curious about final17:40
lotuspsychjeright now, it still looks very gnomeish17:40
lotuspsychjethat activities start button, makes one use much time to switch things17:41
lotuspsychjei dont like that17:41
Bashing-omMe be devoted xfce fan , I truely like having multiple displays within same desktop/workspaces .17:50
lotus|artfulboxhttp://imgur.com/a/cyMuJ17:57
lotus|artfulboxbbl guys, testing done for today18:11
Bashing-omlotuspsychje: Buce \o/ , Ya got to admit that gnome looks clean on the desktop :)18:11
lotus|artfulboxBashing-om, clean it is, usefull perhaps yet to come18:11
lotus|artfulboxbbl18:12
Bashing-omlotus|artfulbox: I have played with gnome just a bit . I did come running back to my xfce4 . I like fast ! and xfce is on that SSD .18:13
oerheksgrinn 1691 tabs .. https://metafluff.com/2017/07/21/i-am-a-tab-hoarder/22:19
oerheksnice review22:19
Bashing-omoerheks: Great for FF . Now maybe that will prod other web browsers to follow :) I hate waiting on the browser .22:26
oerheksthis http://paste.ubuntu.com/25142490/ snap list gives http://paste.ubuntu.com/25142491/22:52
oerheksnow i need to sort that list22:52
Bashing-omoerheks: Need thoughts ?22:58
oerheksi have it sorted, now duplicates removal, as they seem to be not really duplicate, it is manually removal23:03
Bashing-omoerheks: What does a true Geek do on a Friday night ? why massage a data base of course .23:05
oerheksyes, but no i go to bed :-D23:09
oerheksbtw i'd like to crawl this list, see if there are interesting snaps to write about23:09
Bashing-omcrawlling puts you to sleep, yes oerheks ?23:18

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