=== JanC is now known as Guest12471 === JanC_ is now known as JanC [07:21] Good morning [10:40] Yakkety is EOL now, July 20, 2017 [10:40] !yakkety [10:40] Ubuntu 16.10 (Yakkety Yak) was the 25th release of Ubuntu. Download at http://www.ubuntu.com/download - Read the release notes at https://ubottu.com/y/yakkety [10:41] ya-ya-ya'll upgrade now [11:04] Hi folks [11:21] hi BluesKaj [11:21] hey oerheks [11:46] hi all [11:48] hey ducasse [11:50] hiya BluesKaj [11:50] all well in canada? [11:51] wildfires still burning out west in BC, but all seems well here, hows Norsk today? [11:53] slightly rainy, but good. not as hot as the past week, which is nice :) [12:02] * BluesKaj nods [12:03] it's been 30 here the last couple of days ..hot enough for my old northerm bones :-) [12:05] mine as well, anything over 25 gets uncomfortable. luckily that doesn't happen very often here :) [12:08] yeah , I feel the same [12:09] damn, seems the usb stick my rpi uses for the root fs is beginning to fail, thinking of trying a usb hard drive instead. [12:24] microsds don't last long if one uses it as the sole drive. I moved / to a usb hdd and the microsd is strictly for booting ..perhaps you don't neesed this tut, but here it is anyway, http://magnatecha.com/using-a-usb-drive-as-os-root-on-a-raspberry-pi/ [12:25] err need [12:39] as it's already set up for root on usb stick, it should be trivial to move to a hdd. i just hope the fs is still ok. [12:43] my /boot is still the microsdcard, but i would like to move the /boot to the HDD as well. Using a microsd to boot seems temporary to me.. [12:45] is that even possible on the rpi? i thought it *had* to boot off microsd? [12:50] I've seen tuts to move the whole works to boot directly off the hdd, but I tried a couple and both failed [12:51] I guess the microsd will last if it's only job is to boot the system :-) [12:52] afaik the rpi has to boot off microsd as the firmware doesn't support anything else. that might be old info now, dunno. [12:56] well, my system works well, altho I've been tempted to try again I'm sticking with what works until a definitive tutorial proves moving boot to the hdd actaually works [12:57] i try not to mess with mine at all as long as it does the job :) [12:58] yup [12:58] bbiab === JanC is now known as Guest32366 === JanC_ is now known as JanC [16:51] good evening to all [16:52] 300mb update on artful [16:53] lets c what that gives [16:53] hi lotus|artfulbox :) [16:53] hey hey ducasse how are you mate? [16:53] * ducasse gives lotus a wb-hug :) [16:53] tnx :p [16:54] lot of work lately? [16:54] ducasse, it has been okay few days off a week [16:55] saw all your topic changes, glad the business is going ahead [16:55] yeah its working great for start ducasse [16:55] http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2017/07/ubuntu-wants-know-apps-think-default-survey [17:02] hey Bashing-om [17:04] lotus|artfulbox: Hey hey .. Pleasantly surprised to see you pop up this time of my day . No work ? [17:04] Bashing-om, early shift today [17:05] !info linux-image-generic artful [17:05] linux-image-generic (source: linux-meta): Generic Linux kernel image. In component main, is optional. Version 4.11.0.10.10 (artful), package size 2 kB, installed size 13 kB [17:06] http://news.softpedia.com/news/ubuntu-16-10-yakkety-yak-is-no-longer-supported-upgrade-to-ubuntu-17-04-now-517083.shtml [17:07] !16.10 [17:07] Ubuntu 16.10 (Yakkety Yak) was the 25th release of Ubuntu. Download at http://www.ubuntu.com/download - Read the release notes at https://ubottu.com/y/yakkety [17:07] instead of a download link, it should say it's eol [17:08] yeah [17:09] ducasse, did they remove it from #ubuntu topic yet? [17:09] ask dax [17:10] * oerheks loves highlighting ubotto-factoid-maintainers [17:10] lol [17:10] lotus|artfulbox: nope [17:10] lotus|artfulbox: nope 2 " official flavors, versions 14.04, 16.04, 16.10, 17.04 | Unofficial derivatives:" [17:11] someone has to do some work :p [17:11] any ubuntu should have an expiring watermark on the desktop :-D [17:11] okay reboot after updates, wish me luck [17:11] lotus|artfulbox: Not in my job description :P [17:14] yay [17:14] Linux artful-bugbox 4.11.0-10-generic #15-Ubuntu SMP Thu Jun 29 15:03:41 UTC 2017 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux [17:15] !yay | lotus|artfulbox [17:15] lotus|artfulbox: Glad you made it! :-) [17:16] tnx :p [17:18] is the plan still to release with 4.12? [17:19] ducasse, not sure [17:19] http://news.softpedia.com/news/canonical-outs-new-kernel-security-updates-for-all-supported-ubuntu-releases-517100.shtml [17:30] anoter reboot gnome asked === lotus|artfulbox is now known as lotuspsychje [17:34] installed preload,rar,vlc,tweaked startup items, played with gnome tweaks [17:36] lotuspsychje: And we have lift off ? - all to do again next release :) [17:37] Bashing-om, yeah all to get a nice & clean 18.04 [17:39] lotuspsychje: I got in mind when I get a fresh drive to install 17.10 - looking forward to 18.04 :) [17:40] still some way off for that :) [17:40] im curious about final [17:40] right now, it still looks very gnomeish [17:41] that activities start button, makes one use much time to switch things [17:41] i dont like that [17:50] Me be devoted xfce fan , I truely like having multiple displays within same desktop/workspaces . [17:57] http://imgur.com/a/cyMuJ [18:11] bbl guys, testing done for today [18:11] lotuspsychje: Buce \o/ , Ya got to admit that gnome looks clean on the desktop :) [18:11] Bashing-om, clean it is, usefull perhaps yet to come [18:12] bbl [18:13] lotus|artfulbox: I have played with gnome just a bit . I did come running back to my xfce4 . I like fast ! and xfce is on that SSD . [22:19] grinn 1691 tabs .. https://metafluff.com/2017/07/21/i-am-a-tab-hoarder/ [22:19] nice review [22:26] oerheks: Great for FF . Now maybe that will prod other web browsers to follow :) I hate waiting on the browser . [22:52] this http://paste.ubuntu.com/25142490/ snap list gives http://paste.ubuntu.com/25142491/ [22:52] now i need to sort that list [22:58] oerheks: Need thoughts ? [23:03] i have it sorted, now duplicates removal, as they seem to be not really duplicate, it is manually removal [23:05] oerheks: What does a true Geek do on a Friday night ? why massage a data base of course . [23:09] yes, but no i go to bed :-D [23:09] btw i'd like to crawl this list, see if there are interesting snaps to write about [23:18] crawlling puts you to sleep, yes oerheks ?