[07:21] <lordievader> Good morning
[10:40] <oerheks> Yakkety is EOL now, July 20, 2017
[10:40] <oerheks> !yakkety
[10:41] <oerheks> ya-ya-ya'll upgrade now
[11:04] <BluesKaj> Hi folks
[11:21] <oerheks> hi BluesKaj
[11:21] <BluesKaj> hey oerheks
[11:46] <ducasse> hi all
[11:48] <BluesKaj> hey ducasse
[11:50] <ducasse> hiya BluesKaj
[11:50] <ducasse> all well in canada?
[11:51] <BluesKaj> wildfires still burning out west in BC, but all seems well here, hows Norsk today?
[11:53] <ducasse> slightly rainy, but good. not as hot as the past week, which is nice :)
[12:02]  * BluesKaj nods
[12:03] <BluesKaj> it's been 30 here the last couple of days ..hot enough for my old northerm bones :-)
[12:05] <ducasse> mine as well, anything over 25 gets uncomfortable. luckily that doesn't happen very often here :)
[12:08] <BluesKaj> yeah , I feel the same
[12:09] <ducasse> damn, seems the usb stick my rpi uses for the root fs is beginning to fail, thinking of trying a usb hard drive instead.
[12:24] <BluesKaj> microsds don't last long if one uses it as the sole drive. I moved / to a usb hdd and the microsd is strictly for booting ..perhaps you don't neesed this tut, but here it is anyway, http://magnatecha.com/using-a-usb-drive-as-os-root-on-a-raspberry-pi/
[12:25] <BluesKaj> err need
[12:39] <ducasse> as it's already set up for root on usb stick, it should be trivial to move to a hdd. i just hope the fs is still ok.
[12:43] <BluesKaj> my /boot is still the microsdcard, but i would like to move the /boot to the HDD as well. Using a microsd to boot seems temporary to me..
[12:45] <ducasse> is that even possible on the rpi? i thought it *had* to boot off microsd?
[12:50] <BluesKaj> I've seen tuts to move the whole works to boot directly off the hdd, but I tried a couple and both failed
[12:51] <BluesKaj> I guess the microsd will last if it's only job is to boot the system :-)
[12:52] <ducasse> afaik the rpi has to boot off microsd as the firmware doesn't support anything else. that might be old info now, dunno.
[12:56] <BluesKaj> well, my system works well, altho I've been tempted to try again I'm sticking with what works until a definitive tutorial proves moving boot to the hdd actaually works
[12:57] <ducasse> i try not to mess with mine at all as long as it does the job :)
[12:58] <BluesKaj> yup
[12:58] <ducasse> bbiab
[16:51] <lotus|artfulbox> good evening to all
[16:52] <lotus|artfulbox> 300mb update on artful
[16:53] <lotus|artfulbox> lets c what that gives
[16:53] <ducasse> hi lotus|artfulbox :)
[16:53] <lotus|artfulbox> hey hey ducasse how are you mate?
[16:53]  * ducasse gives lotus a wb-hug :)
[16:53] <lotus|artfulbox> tnx :p
[16:54] <ducasse> lot of work lately?
[16:54] <lotus|artfulbox> ducasse, it has been okay few days off a week
[16:55] <ducasse> saw all your topic changes, glad the business is going ahead
[16:55] <lotus|artfulbox> yeah its working great for start ducasse
[16:55] <lotus|artfulbox> http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2017/07/ubuntu-wants-know-apps-think-default-survey
[17:02] <lotus|artfulbox> hey Bashing-om
[17:04] <Bashing-om> lotus|artfulbox: Hey hey .. Pleasantly surprised to see you pop up this time of my day . No work ?
[17:04] <lotus|artfulbox> Bashing-om, early shift today
[17:05] <lotus|artfulbox> !info linux-image-generic artful
[17:06] <lotus|artfulbox> http://news.softpedia.com/news/ubuntu-16-10-yakkety-yak-is-no-longer-supported-upgrade-to-ubuntu-17-04-now-517083.shtml
[17:07] <lotus|artfulbox> !16.10
[17:07] <ducasse> instead of a download link, it should say it's eol
[17:08] <lotus|artfulbox> yeah
[17:09] <lotus|artfulbox> ducasse, did they remove it from #ubuntu topic yet?
[17:09] <oerheks> ask dax
[17:10]  * oerheks loves highlighting ubotto-factoid-maintainers
[17:10] <lotus|artfulbox> lol
[17:10] <ducasse> lotus|artfulbox: nope
[17:10] <Bashing-om> lotus|artfulbox: nope 2 "  official flavors, versions 14.04, 16.04, 16.10, 17.04 | Unofficial derivatives:"
[17:11] <lotus|artfulbox> someone has to do some work :p
[17:11] <oerheks> any ubuntu should have an expiring watermark on the desktop :-D
[17:11] <lotus|artfulbox> okay reboot after updates, wish me luck
[17:11] <Bashing-om> lotus|artfulbox: Not in my job description :P
[17:14] <lotus|artfulbox> yay
[17:14] <lotus|artfulbox> Linux artful-bugbox 4.11.0-10-generic #15-Ubuntu SMP Thu Jun 29 15:03:41 UTC 2017 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[17:15] <ducasse> !yay | lotus|artfulbox
[17:16] <lotus|artfulbox> tnx :p
[17:18] <ducasse> is the plan still to release with 4.12?
[17:19] <lotus|artfulbox> ducasse, not sure
[17:19] <lotus|artfulbox> http://news.softpedia.com/news/canonical-outs-new-kernel-security-updates-for-all-supported-ubuntu-releases-517100.shtml
[17:30] <lotus|artfulbox> anoter reboot gnome asked
[17:34] <lotuspsychje> installed preload,rar,vlc,tweaked startup items, played with gnome tweaks
[17:36] <Bashing-om> lotuspsychje: And we have lift off ? - all to do again next release :)
[17:37] <lotuspsychje> Bashing-om, yeah all to get a nice & clean 18.04
[17:39] <Bashing-om> lotuspsychje: I got in mind when I get a fresh drive to install 17.10 - looking forward to 18.04 :)
[17:40] <ducasse> still some way off for that :)
[17:40] <lotuspsychje> im curious about final
[17:40] <lotuspsychje> right now, it still looks very gnomeish
[17:41] <lotuspsychje> that activities start button, makes one use much time to switch things
[17:41] <lotuspsychje> i dont like that
[17:50] <Bashing-om> Me be devoted xfce fan , I truely like having multiple displays within same desktop/workspaces .
[17:57] <lotus|artfulbox> http://imgur.com/a/cyMuJ
[18:11] <lotus|artfulbox> bbl guys, testing done for today
[18:11] <Bashing-om> lotuspsychje: Buce \o/ , Ya got to admit that gnome looks clean on the desktop :)
[18:11] <lotus|artfulbox> Bashing-om, clean it is, usefull perhaps yet to come
[18:12] <lotus|artfulbox> bbl
[18:13] <Bashing-om> lotus|artfulbox: I have played with gnome just a bit . I did come running back to my xfce4 . I like fast ! and xfce is on that SSD .
[22:19] <oerheks> grinn 1691 tabs .. https://metafluff.com/2017/07/21/i-am-a-tab-hoarder/
[22:19] <oerheks> nice review
[22:26] <Bashing-om> oerheks: Great for FF . Now maybe that will prod other web browsers to follow :) I hate waiting on the browser .
[22:52] <oerheks> this http://paste.ubuntu.com/25142490/ snap list gives http://paste.ubuntu.com/25142491/
[22:52] <oerheks> now i need to sort that list
[22:58] <Bashing-om> oerheks: Need thoughts ?
[23:03] <oerheks> i have it sorted, now duplicates removal, as they seem to be not really duplicate, it is manually removal
[23:05] <Bashing-om> oerheks: What does a true Geek do on a Friday night ? why massage a data base of course .
[23:09] <oerheks> yes, but no i go to bed :-D
[23:09] <oerheks> btw i'd like to crawl this list, see if there are interesting snaps to write about
[23:18] <Bashing-om> crawlling puts you to sleep, yes oerheks ?