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cmaloneyGood morning12:36
rick_hmorning12:40
shakes808happy friday all12:59
brouschrick_h: Are you staying at the Blackwell?13:02
rick_hbrousch: yep13:02
brouschMe too13:03
rick_hawesome, bar meetup!13:03
cmaloneyNice!13:14
cmaloneyWe're staying there as well13:14
cmaloney\m/13:15
jrwrenlol... for my second PR at new job, a whopping     +2959, -27    size patch. lol13:57
rick_h"Rewrite all the bad stuff I've seen so far"14:00
rick_h"So far only looked at the Makefile"14:00
jrwrennope.14:02
jrwrenno bad stuff at all.14:02
jrwrenno makefiles either.14:03
jrwrenno javascript.14:03
jrwrenthis job is like a dream come true.14:03
jrwreni'm waiting for other shoe to drop14:03
rick_hlol14:06
jrwreni haven't seen any of the ios or android. Maybe that is where the bodies are burried.14:07
cmaloneyheh14:11
brouschLook for the legacy programs15:01
jrwrenI'm looking at cloud DB technologies and when it comes to cloud managed DB, does it really matter that postgresql > mysql. AFAICT, all the things I prefer about postgresql have to do with management and underlying tech, but if it is just a service, do I really care?15:25
jrwrenmy thought is... why use RDS when Aurora exists?15:29
cmaloneyThings I've noticed between PostgreSQL and MySQL tend to be more about transactions and performance15:47
cmaloneyMySQL InnoDB is not terribly performant and transactions are naiive15:47
cmaloneyAlso, MySQL stored procedures are pretty limited compared with PostgreSQL15:48
cmaloneySo if you're looking for a dumb datastore and don't care about other PGSQL features then MySQL is fine15:48
cmaloneyaddendum: Wordpress and some other PHP apps are exclusively MySQL so that also is a factor.15:49
jrwrenright. none of which matter on Aurora15:49
jrwrencool.15:49
cmaloneyIn what sense?15:49
jrwrenaurora is its own thing that happens to use mysql protocol.15:49
cmaloneyah15:49
jrwrenso the perf and transactions aren't mysql15:49
cmaloneySo it's likely MySQL with an Amazon-derived engine15:50
jrwrenright15:50
cmaloneyAh, then I have NFC how that stacks up15:50
cmaloneyWould be interested to see perf benchmarks / reliability benchmarks15:50
cmaloneyBut yeah, the engines of MySQL have been a huge sticking point15:51
cmaloneyMyISAM vs InnoDB specifically15:51
cmaloneyWant speed? MyISAM. Want anything else that makes a relational database nice? InnoDB15:52
jrwrenright15:54
greg-gjrwren: what is the main language you're writing in there?15:57
jrwrenGo16:04
jrwrengreg-g: and so far... I love it... jump to your own conclusions :)16:05
greg-gheh, we're starting to use some Go for our docker/k8s stuff16:06
jrwrenoh, that is interesting. as api clients to docker/k8s servers?16:06
greg-gjrwren: (in a meeting but) this is the tool my team is writing in Go: https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/source/blubber/16:07
greg-gftr: it's everyone on my team's first Go project, so, take it with a grain of salt code idiom/etc wise :)16:08
jrwrenseems weird to use go for shell scripting like that :p16:20

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