[09:49] <bluesabre> The hardest part might be done now https://github.com/bluesabre/xfce4-soundmenu-plugin/commit/51285017385e4d0f9d52fa5f8e96015ee62f3e2d >.<
[09:50] <bluesabre> Unit193: will do
[09:51] <Unit193> bluesabre: sidi doesn't like keybinder.
[09:52] <bluesabre> Unit193: Pretty sure it's optional
[09:52] <bluesabre> My goal is to get a base indicator-sound clone off the ground
[09:52] <Unit193> Not propose a merge for pa?
[09:53] <bluesabre> the mpris handling bits are larger than the pa-plugin itself
[09:56] <Unit193> Hrm..
[09:57] <Unit193> bluesabre: FYI, I've switched to sn-plug across everthing.
[09:58] <bluesabre> Unit193: does it support indicator-sound? that seems to be the one indicator I'm missing
[09:59] <Unit193> sn-plug is indicator-application.
[09:59] <bluesabre> ahhh
[10:00] <bluesabre> hm
[10:00] <Unit193> I presume you don't care about -messages? :P
[10:00] <bluesabre> I use it
[10:00] <bluesabre> When I'm not running all web services
[10:02] <Unit193> Doesn't pa-plug conflict a tad with xfce4-volumed?
[10:02] <bluesabre> yup
[10:03] <bluesabre> and soundmenu seems pretty dang buggy
[10:03] <bluesabre> all roads lead to pain :D
[10:05] <bluesabre> time to start poking the pa plug instead
[10:05] <Unit193> \o/
[10:05]  * Unit193 likes rooting for pa-plug!
[12:16] <ninetls> Unit193: https://git.xfce.org/panel-plugins/xfce4-statusnotifier-plugin/commit/?id=20c3664e6a1838f76549b0577833f89e278b7bf2
[12:18] <Unit193> Welp that's easy.  Thanks very much, ninetls!
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[12:55] <ochosi> \o/
[12:55] <ochosi> bluesabre: looking forward to your new xfce4-indicator-sound ;)
[22:31] <ninetls> ok, I figured out how to make sn-plugin work with foreign watcher services
[22:31] <ninetls> the problem is that these services can be poorly designed
[22:32] <ninetls> and the bigger problem that indicator-application-service exacly this service
[22:32] <Unit193> Ahaha, niiice. :D
[22:33] <ninetls> it doesn't notify me when new icons added -_-
[22:33] <ninetls> the standard says: something notifies about new item -> notify all hosts that a new item was added
[22:33] <Unit193> Maybe that'll be fixed in ayatana-application-indicator! :P
[22:33] <ninetls> i-d-s doesn't do that
[22:34] <ninetls> well, at least now it's possible to add multiple instances of sn-plugins!
[22:35] <Unit193> To what end?
[22:36] <ninetls> idk…
[22:36] <ninetls> well, I know how to solve the problem
[22:36] <ninetls> I can check the list of items
[22:36] <ninetls> compare with existing list of items
[22:36] <ninetls> find differences
[22:36] <ninetls> add/remove items according to these differences
[22:37] <Unit193> I just no longer use indicator-application, fixes that issue. :>
[22:37] <ninetls> sounds disgusting, isn't it?
[22:37] <Unit193> Trying to compare everything?  Yes, sounds easier to only have one plugin running (more so since xfce4-panel supports enforcing this.)
[22:38] <ninetls> also there is sntray plugin
[22:38] <ninetls> I'm interested in how will it work with sn-plugin now
[22:38] <ninetls> when there are multiple plugins added
[22:39] <ninetls> one of them became a "master" plugin which runs a watcher service
[22:39] <ninetls> and everyting everyting begin to work depending on how good this service designed
[22:40] <ninetls> (2 everything and with the same typo, nice!)
[23:29] <Unit193> ninetls: I presume you wouldn't be interested in helping bluesabre add mpris2 support to pa-plug or whatnot? :P
[23:33] <ninetls> Unit193: I don't use this feature and never used it!
[23:35] <Unit193> :D
[23:37] <ninetls> nice!
[23:37] <ninetls> i-a-s seems to doesn't notify about changed properties
[23:38] <ninetls> so listening for properties is a bad idea as well!
[23:38] <Unit193> Well it presumes it's the only one.