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edwinksl	devster31: maybe pipe it to `cat`?	00:09
wedgie	devster31: if you just want stdout printed to the screen then why use the pipe at all?	00:14
wedgie	devster31: i suspect that i'm not understanding what you're trying to do	00:14
devster31	lighttpd accepts a binary as access.log, I wanted to print to stdout	00:16
devster31	and for some reason using 'STDOUT' gives me a permission error	00:18
blackdalek	I done messed up the install of ubuntu-restricted-extras :/ .... I didn't notice the MS TTF core fonts download agreement window hiding behind the terminal window until after I closed the terminal window, so it never downloaded. Now I can't get it to install because sudo apt install ubuntu-restricted-extras is convinced I've already run the installer and so it won't let me run it again.	00:23
quarters	my version of neovim that I got off of the apt repository seems to issue the following message when running with either powerline or floobits: "You need vim compiled with Python 2.6, 2.7 or 3.2 and later support for Powerline to work" Is there a way for me to find an already compiled version of neovim to get rid of this message or will I have to learn how to compile neovim using python?	00:23
vbotka	devster31, "utility that accepts text from a pipe and echoes that same text" is "buffer". But maybe "tee" is what you are looking for?	00:25
sary	blackdalek: sudo apt install --reinstall ubuntu-restricted-extras , might help!	00:26
blackdalek	sary, yes... I just realised that 2 seconds after sending my question lol	00:27
sary	:)	00:28
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blackdalek	forgot there was a --reinstall option	00:28
blackdalek	Does anyone know why in Xchat-GNOME, Nickserv always says "Invalid password for BlackDalek" then 2 seconds later says "You are now identified for BlackDalek. 2 failed logins since last login. Last failed attempt from:..." ? It is just enough that it throws me into #ubuntu-unregged every time I connect and I always have to switch channels. A bit annoying...	00:34
toothfairy_	Hmm anybody have a clue? -rw-rw---- 1 vmail vmail 13874 Jul 21 22:25 rose ... rose is member of group vmail but in syslog: user rose. destination /var/mail/rose is not owned by recipient) Any ideas?	00:35
blackdalek	Is Xchat sending the login information to Nickserv too late and is there any way to speed it up so it doesn't get caught by the IRC server and throw me to #ubuntu-unregged every time?	00:36
sary	blackdalek: does xchat have sasl built-in support , or a script .. maybe you want to auth with sasl i never have issue with it using irssi.	00:37
sary	look at the xchat docs for that , and maybe it's there in freenode's website too.	00:37
sary	blackdalek: here you go https://freenode.net/kb/answer/sasl , xchat is missing from the list!	00:39
blackdalek	sary, which IRC client do you use?	00:40
sary	blackdalek: irssi .	00:40
quarters	if I like the vim key-binding and the way tmux plays with powerline, but have used terminator exclusively up until now, and I feel like using both is a bit redundant, I was wondering if anyone might have any recommendations	01:34
boblamont	Can someone that knows what they're doing take a quick look at this bash script and verify it looks ok? I'm not sure about line 7, particularly how I escaped the closing bracket (the group of characters to replace in within a pair of brackets, but I also want to replace any brackets in the filenames). Also, this will have no affect on the files on the source drive, correct?	02:16
boblamont	https://pastebin.com/vsMiuBjj	02:16
Ben64	boblamont: probably better to ask in #bash	02:19
boblamont	Ben64: will do, thanks (I didn't realize #bash existed!)	02:20
=== r0Oter is now known as r00ter
quarters	I had asked about mutt here and alternatives and got a link to this: https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2004/08/msg00564.html . I never got aroudn to asking what the motivation behind the link was	02:47
azizLIGHT	im in a vm, and expanded the disk but my / is still same size. how can i resize while booted?	03:16
azizLIGHT	do i have to boot a livecd in the vm and expand with gparted? id rather not shut down	03:17
oerheks	azizLIGHT, not.	03:17
oerheks	one does not expand partitions of a running system	03:17
oerheks	so you resized the vm, not the / partition.	03:18
azizLIGHT	yea	03:19
azizLIGHT	i have unallocated space in the disk that i want to give to the / partition	03:19
oerheks	well, you can edit partitions with a mouse in gparted. but not on a running vm.	03:20
azizLIGHT	oh well	03:20
azizLIGHT	are you sure of that, i sort of remember that i was able to expand the filesystem on a raspberry pi using their raspi-config utility	03:23
azizLIGHT	while running	03:23
kk4ewt	azizLIGHT, totally different	03:23
oerheks	no, i am not sure, go try it :-D lolz	03:25
oerheks	man o man	03:25
azizLIGHT	how is it different kk4ewt	03:25
WetVacAbortion	hello all.	03:26
tgm4883	WetVacAbortion: this isn't a chatting channel, do you have a question?	03:27
WetVacAbortion	i'm trying to figure this whole thing out, idk where i fit in lol sorry i'll leave	03:28
=== the_ant1 is now known as the_ant
BlackDalek	if I started the deluged daemon and deluge-web, what is the proper way to stop these things running cleanly?	05:05
Budgie^Smore	Is there a good way to stop login unless a certain usb drive is attached?	05:06
BlackDalek	I tried adding the deluged daemon in the Ubuntu Startup Applications preferences, but it did not work/start. Are daemons not permitted to be entered into the Startup Applicatons?	05:42
BlackDalek	no much activity in here. Everyone asleep now?	05:49
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BlackDalek	/nick blackdalek___ //	05:54
BlackDalek	oops.. hand on spacebar.. sorry :(	05:54
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=== blackdalek___ is now known as BlackDalek
BlackDalek	I tried adding the deluged daemon in the Ubuntu Startup Applications preferences, but it did not work/start. Are daemons not permitted to be entered into the Startup Applicatons?	06:07
oerheks	BlackDalek, indeed, you followed this guide, and enabled the service on startup with systemd > udo systemctl enable /etc/systemd/system/deluged.servicesudo systemctl start deluged	06:10
oerheks	so it is running already, sudo systemctl status deluged	06:10
BlackDalek	oerheks, true... but I think I messed something up because I was getting lots of errors and my 17.04 install made matters worse and I could not figure out how to fix it so reinstalled 16.04 and deluge... now I was investigating if there were alternative methods to make the deluged daemon start on bootup.	06:13
BlackDalek	But if there isn't I'll try running with systemd again, but first I need to do more research so I don't muck it up again	06:14
oerheks	16.04 works with systemd also	06:14
BlackDalek	Another major problem I had after following the online guide for setting it up with systemd was that I could not figure out how to migrate my torrent files and states info to where the daemon expected them to be... :(	06:16
jerichowasahoax	BlackDalek: you sure it didn't just fork itself into the background	06:18
jerichowasahoax	ps ax \| grep deluge	06:18
BlackDalek	So currently I don't have anything set up to start automatically at boot up. I have my torrent files & states back under ~/Downloads and ~/.config/deluge and I need to open a terminal and start the deluged daemon and deluge-web manually.	06:19
sary	http://dev.deluge-torrent.org/wiki/UserGuide/Service/systemd	06:20
oerheks	sary +1 that is the manual he used/should use again, or the same story here .. http://www.havetheknowhow.com/Install-the-software/Install-Deluge-Headless.html	06:21
BlackDalek	jerichowasahoax, I'm not even sure what that means, but I typed it anyway and it outputted two lines with (probably) useful information. I however am none the wiser as to it's meaning.	06:22
sary	oerheks: right ,we should follow the official docs!	06:23
BlackDalek	Sary, yes.. that's the guide I tried earlier. But I think that guide is maybe expecting the user to not have already installed and ran the full client first. That's why all my torrents are in ~/Downloads and ~/config/deluge... and the daemon can't find them	06:24
BlackDalek	Except if I just install deluged and deluge-web with apt and DO NOT follow any steps in the guide. THEN I can start them both from terminal and it can find my torrent files/settings without issue... it is only after following the guide that it gets lost and can't find anyting	06:26
oerheks	there is a guide to move the torrents, not to add them again..	06:26
BlackDalek	oerheks, there is? I couldn't find one :/	06:26
oerheks	in deluge itself> menu > torrent > move storage	06:29
BlackDalek	oerheks, oh ok. Also... just now reading that guide at www.havetheknowhow... had not seen that before. It seems to have additional info not present in the other guide.	06:31
jerichowasahoax	BlackDalek: sorry, for some reason I didn't hear my irc client ding	06:36
jerichowasahoax	BlackDalek: that command listed all process running in your computer with "deluge" somewhere in their command line (including, frequently, the "grep" command itself)	06:36
jerichowasahoax	BlackDalek: two lines of output, for this particular usage of that command, mean deluge is definitely running as of now	06:37
=== nocaberi is now known as Bock
deostroll	somewhere in my vm installation I manually chose to not install the boot loader...I was expecting that it would setup the MBR automatically...but didn't	07:16
deostroll	now while booting the virtual machine...it says no bootable medium found...	07:17
deostroll	how can I fix this...?	07:17
oerheks	deostroll, reinstall would be an option	07:35
oerheks	if you had started it right away, you would be done by now	07:35
deostroll	okay during reinstall, how to not install grub	07:37
oerheks	grub = bootloader ...	07:38
deostroll	I just want to bypass the grub when the os boots	07:39
deostroll	directly boot my operating system	07:39
oerheks	that is what normally happens, you won't see the grub menu, unless you hold shift or esc on boot.	07:40
oerheks	you will need grub, else you cannot have 2 kernels, 1 for recovery and 1 current	07:41
deostroll	on a virtual machine I guess that is okay	07:41
oerheks	i just told you it is not oke, but go ahead, find out	07:42
Cobrax	I'm looking to organize my machine	08:07
Cobrax	i.e RSS feeds, emails, stored passwords	08:07
Cobrax	whilst also attempting to be as secures as i can be	08:07
Cobrax	mostly automating things as well, what things can i do?	08:07
=== Jochen_wvdT is now known as Schlawiner
elky	Cobrax: i'm not really sure what your question is	08:11
glachas	Whenever I am creating folder with the name "tmp_depth_files" Files closes down. I don't know why.	08:14
elky	Cobrax: if it's recommendation via word association, rss -> tt-rss, email -> gmail or fastmail, passwords -> keepass, backups -> duplicity	08:15
elky	glachas: creating a folder where and what do you mean by "Files closes down"? what desktop?	08:16
glachas	elky: sorry, In some directory which is in home directory	08:16
Cobrax	elky, is it safe to intergrate keepass into the browser via addon on firefox	08:17
glachas	elky: Files launcher closes down	08:18
elky	Cobrax: i haven't done so, i don't know about the security implications but i would be skeptical	08:18
Cobrax	elky, understood	08:18
elky	glachas: so like dolphin or nautilus?	08:19
glachas	elky: nautilus	08:19
Cobrax	https://boards.4chan.org/g/thread/61497391	08:19
Cobrax	please fill out the form for default software for ubuntu 18.04 lts	08:19
elky	glachas: and this happened once or many times?	08:20
glachas	elky: but I am able to create folder with the same name in any directory.	08:21
glachas	I tried many times'	08:21
elky	Cobrax: i don't feel comfortable with you linking that, it's quite rude	08:23
Cobrax	why	08:23
glachas	its a chain of directory: home->dir1->dir2->dir3->dir4->"not able to create here" but other than this folder can be created	08:23
Cobrax	elky, i do not respect trigger warnings	08:25
oerheks	Cobrax, not such a nice post, "UBUNTU 18.04 DEFAULT APP SERVEY IS HERE, F******" ... so i won't fill your silly survey	08:25
oerheks	Cobrax, better spread this one > http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2017/07/ubuntu-wants-know-apps-think-default-survey	08:25
Cobrax	oh	08:25
Cobrax	they need to get ssl	08:26
Cobrax	its annoying =P	08:26
elky	Cobrax: yeah apparently calling people homophobic slurs makes them not want to help you	08:26
elky	funny that	08:26
Cobrax	it isn't my post	08:26
elky	Cobrax: we'd prefer if you exercise some discretion with the links you post in here anyway	08:32
Cobrax	we?	08:33
maja	howzit all, i got maybe a silly question about reseting mysql-server-5.7. When i do it i get told i need to --force and that just	08:40
maja	tells me the same :(	08:40
maja	its most vexing	08:40
maja	is there just something i am not getting ?	08:42
maja	sudo dpkg-reconfigure mysql-server-5.7 --force	08:42
maja	Checking if update is needed.	08:42
maja	This installation of MySQL is already upgraded to 5.7.19, use --force if you still need to run mysql_upgrade	08:42
maja	all i want todo is reset root password	08:42
oerheks	maja, on what ubuntu version?	08:49
oerheks	for 16.04 and up > https://coderwall.com/p/j9btlg/reset-the-mysql-5-7-root-password-in-ubuntu-16-04-lts	08:50
oerheks	* Note that if you are using mysql-server-5.7 you can not use the easier dpkg-reconfigure method	08:50
maja	oerheks: 17	08:50
oerheks	this has been recently changed	08:51
oerheks	oke, then follow that guide	08:51
maja	oerheks: thanks :)	08:51
maja	oerheks: i have been trying so many ways to reconfigure it but dpkg just don't want to	08:52
oerheks	correct, that is the old method.	08:52
maja	oerheks: super sweet thanks !	08:53
oerheks	maja have fun!	08:54
maja	hum mysql-workbench is not working... fuck it restart	08:55
IhrFussel	Anytime between 5 minutes - 24 hours after running my PC suddenly locks up with a corrupted screen ... it doesn't matter what I do while it happens (it happened in a game, while surfing or even while being idle) ... could it be a bad sector in my GPU chip?	08:58
Onepamopa	IhrFussel, there's no "sectors" in the GPU :)	08:59
Onepamopa	try running a stress test on the GPU and on the CPU (separately)	09:00
IhrFussel	Onepamopa, can you recommend me a tool for Ubuntu?	09:01
Onepamopa	google	09:01
Dreaman	http://imgur.com/a/je6GK 4k	09:11
Dreaman	new kernel	09:12
sonu_nk	strange i dont have more option in Ubuntu setting http://imgur.com/a/1ozaz	09:18
sonu_nk	what could be isue and how to solve ?	09:18
AggregatedExcept	hi, I have a Netty based Java TCP server	09:24
oerheks	sonu_nk, reinstall ubuntu-desktop, seen that before https://askubuntu.com/questions/466720/system-settings-icons-missing-in-14-04	09:24
AggregatedExcept	I will create a GWT based web interface for admin (to change tcp port etc.) and users (to view incoming messages)	09:24
AggregatedExcept	so the TCP server will run in a servlet on Tomcat (or maybe I will use embedded Jetty, not decided yet)	09:24
AggregatedExcept	the web browser will run in kiosk mode, thus I need to make available on web interface to change network settings (DHCP / static) and configure NTP server	09:25
oerheks	AggregatedExcept, what is Netty based Java TCP server ?	09:25
oerheks	not ubuntu server, is it?	09:25
AggregatedExcept	what is the best approach to solve this, can somebody give me some advice?	09:25
AggregatedExcept	Netty is an asynchronous event-driven network application framework for rapid development of maintainable high performance protocol servers	09:25
oerheks	AggregatedExcept, ah oke, never heard of it before.	09:26
warri0rr	What have you done?	09:26
warri0rr	what is your question?	09:27
AggregatedExcept	how can edit system files (like ntp.conf) from a java servlet?	09:28
AggregatedExcept	it needs root access to edit the file	09:29
warri0rr	Well, you use Java i/o interface to do that and yes it needs root access	09:29
AggregatedExcept	but servlet is running by tomcat user	09:29
warri0rr	give tomcat user permission to edit that file	09:29
warri0rr	I think that's possible with sudo	09:29
AggregatedExcept	warri0rr: thanks, i will try it and come back if the problem will be more exact	09:32
sawmj	following this wikipage to bridging network with a wireless nic .. as far as i understand that i need to know every machines' IP and MAC. is there any other way to bridging the two	09:47
sawmj	interfaces automattically?	09:47
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ktosiek	Hi! I have a problem with Evolution/gnome-keyring-daemon on 17.04	09:53
ktosiek	I have unlocked the keyring through seahorse, but Evolution still can't access the secret's storage	09:54
ktosiek	how do I debug this?	09:55
ktosiek	oh, seems GOA is down too	09:58
rud0lf	apt -h doesn't show much.. how do i know if package with given name exists without installing it?	10:19
SCHAPiE	rud0lf› apt search something	10:19
SCHAPiE	iircd	10:19
SCHAPiE	*iirc	10:19
rud0lf	thanks	10:20
SCHAPiE	yw	10:20
toothfairy_	Hmm anybody have a clue? -rw-rw---- 1 vmail vmail 13874 Jul 21 22:25 rose ... rose is member of group vmail but in syslog: user rose. destination /var/mail/rose is not owned by recipient) Any ideas?	10:59
lightpriest	I'm trying to "fix" gnome-shell to display nicely on HiDPI, but nothing seems to have a perfect fit (used tweak tool and xrandr to change scale). Under unity it worked better, am I missing something? Are there any good, known, working solutions out there?	11:00
ktosiek	toothfairy_: but rose is not an owner of that file	11:09
ktosiek	so the message is correct :-)	11:09
maze88	hey, n00b question: what's the significant difference between r and x permissions? theoretically couldn't a user with r (and without x) permissions read the contents of some file...then write it in his own ownership where he then could execute it?	11:15
=== KindTwo is now known as KindOne
oerheks	maze88, basicly yes, reading allows copying	11:16
maze88	so there must be a deeper more important reason beyond that, for having seperate permissions for r and x...	11:17
l1Ll1Ll1L	maze88, one reason I can think of is that an executable can be set to run as the owning user	11:18
* maze88 gets all philosophical when learning computers.		11:18
oerheks	r and x and w	11:18
l1Ll1Ll1L	ie root	11:18
l1Ll1Ll1L	whereas your copy is owned by you	11:18
maze88	l1Ll1Ll1L: i see where you're going here... for instance with the file passwd	11:18
l1Ll1Ll1L	well maze88 I was thinking along the lines of a program that could do damage if run as root, but not if run as a normal user	11:20
cr1t1cal	whenever I use a bitmap font on my gnome-terminal	11:27
cr1t1cal	and the font I use is small	11:27
cr1t1cal	the font gets really blurry	11:27
cr1t1cal	and without anti-aliasing it looks really weird being bold in some places and not in others	11:27
=== joe75_ is now known as joe75
MrCrackPotBuilde	hi guys quick question	11:35
MrCrackPotBuilde	my graphics work fine however	11:35
MrCrackPotBuilde	when i plug in hdmi im left with a trailing mouse	11:35
MrCrackPotBuilde	i've tried installing nvidia-375 364 and a range of others but none work	11:36
badsektor	MrCrackPotBuilde: i would plug in hdmi while the pc is off	11:36
badsektor	MrCrackPotBuilde: and the tv both	11:36
MrCrackPotBuilde	tried	11:38
MrCrackPotBuilde	i even tried the two different hdmi ports one is standard size the other mini	11:38
MrCrackPotBuilde	when i plug in my usb monitor the same thing happens	11:39
MrCrackPotBuilde	after unplugging everything the dodgy mouse continues	11:39
badsektor	MrCrackPotBuilde: i would try a different desktop environment	11:40
MrCrackPotBuilde	any suggestions	11:40
MrCrackPotBuilde	its for a media server	11:40
badsektor	MrCrackPotBuilde: i would try it with something simple like windowmaker	11:40
MrCrackPotBuilde	currently im using unity	11:40
badsektor	MrCrackPotBuilde: hey you can just try to boot into standard gnome, without unity	11:41
MrCrackPotBuilde	media centre sorry not server	11:41
MrCrackPotBuilde	how do i do that	11:41
maze88	MrCrackPotBuilde: one factor to consider is if your computer also has/uses integrated graphics (like my laptop: intel hd620 + geforce940mx).	11:41
badsektor	MrCrackPotBuilde: you should log out and shoose standart gnome to log in with	11:41
MrCrackPotBuilde	ok let me try that if im back in two mins it didnt work hahah	11:41
badsektor	MrCrackPotBuilde: ok good luck!	11:41
MrCrackPotBuilde	and in advance thanks for your help	11:42
maze88	MrCrackPotBuilde: within my quests to configure mine to work well, one thing that was worth trying was actually using older drivers. though your case is only similar to mine, the approach may help...trying version 340 or 346.	11:42
dudeji	Hi , after i go to vpn my browsing stops but ip based websites still work. how to fix that	12:03
=== jstein_ is now known as jstein
oe1skw	hello, i have a ubuntu 16.04.02 Server and ubuntu 16.04.02 clients. I want to set up a iptables firewall on the server and rout all traffic from the client through the server firewall to the internet. Does someone have an advice hoew to do that in a proper way?	12:13
Superola	Can someone help me with port opening? After several hours on google im cranky xD	12:16
oe1skw	@superola in the local network or with a router to the internet?	12:18
silv3r_m00n	hi	12:20
Exterminador	hello. I have windows and xubuntu installed in dual boot mode. I'd like to reinstall windows, but I've been told that the boot will be messed up.	12:20
silv3r_m00n	i am using 16.10 64bit and want to install a very old version of firefox 32bit browser. i downloaded firefox 3 standalone and when i try to run it, it says ./firefox-bin: error while loading shared libraries: libXft.so.2: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory	12:20
silv3r_m00n	is there some way to fix it ?	12:20
oerheks	Exterminador, sure, windows overwrites the bootsector, but no worry, you can easily reinstall grub after that	12:20
botho	hi	12:20
oerheks	!grub	12:21
ubottu	GRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - For more information and troubleshooting for GRUB2 please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2	12:21
Superola	oe1skw ehm, dedicated machine xD	12:21
oe1skw	suoerla which port is it? you want to acces a port on your machine from your machine	12:22
Exterminador	oerheks: thanks! I'll take a look into that.	12:22
Superola	octanium 8125	12:22
Superola	oe1skw **	12:22
oe1skw	superola what does sudo netstat -tulpen \| grep "8125" ?	12:24
Superola	should i type that ?	12:24
oe1skw	in a terminal	12:25
Superola	https://pastebin.com/ts81DfuY	12:26
BlackDalek	hi	12:28
Exterminador	oerheks: I guess that's default to xubuntu 16.04.2 too, right?	12:31
Superola	oe1skw suggestions ?	12:32
BlackDalek	Just looking at these two guides for achieving the same thing... the deluged.service scripts for each guide is different. Which is better script to use and what's the difference? (assume I can't read scripting language :P). Here - http://dev.deluge-torrent.org/wiki/UserGuide/Service/systemd and here - http://www.havetheknowhow.com/Install-the-software/Install-Deluge-Headless.html	12:33
oe1skw	superola re after net problems because of mobile internet what is the netstat output	12:33
Superola	https://pastebin.com/ts81DfuY i put it in here =)	12:34
oe1skw	so the service is started	12:34
Superola	yes	12:35
Superola	i think so xD	12:35
Exterminador	btw, how can I debug why my laptop takes so much to boot into xubuntu?	12:35
oe1skw	i don't know the programm, is this an application in the browser?	12:36
Superola	its a plugin in the game minecraft, that needs to open a port to be able to send texturepacks to the players	12:36
oe1skw	so suggestions for that	12:37
oe1skw	is minecraft running? is ip tables installed?	12:37
oe1skw	or ufw firewall=?	12:37
Superola	ufw	12:37
Superola	both i think xD	12:37
Superola	lol	12:37
oe1skw	try in terminal sudo ufw disable	12:37
Cobrax	can i run minecraft in ubuntu	12:38
oe1skw	be back in a few minutes	12:38
Cobrax	without wine	12:38
oe1skw	yees you can	12:38
Superola	okey, rebooting now oe1skw	12:38
Superola	lol think it locked me out	12:41
warri0rr	Exterminador: check dmesg.. it shows timestamp and what it does at boot	12:43
Exterminador	warri0rr: okay, I'll take a look at it after update windows.. that's too damn sloww..	12:44
Superola	lol oe1skw ehm, i cant access the server now xD	12:44
Exterminador	that's why I've changed to Xubuntu, but my wife don't like it much, hence the dual boot	12:45
Exterminador	btw, who can remember me the command of smartmontools to check the disk health?	12:46
FManTropyx	I just -a to print all	12:47
FManTropyx	or try -h for list	12:47
leftyfb	Exterminador: smartmontools --help or man smartmontools	12:47
Exterminador	FManTropyx, leftyfb: thanks	12:47
oerheks	s.m.a.r.t. is part of disks ( gparted) too	12:48
Exterminador	since I select Ubuntu on the boot screen (?), it takes 2min until appears the screen prompting for the password. isn't that a bit much? (note: laptop is Acer Aspire @ dual core CPU at 2.10Ghz, 800Mhz FSB @ model T4300, 4Gb ram, probably from 2009/10)	12:53
Exterminador	s/model/CPU model	12:54
oe1skw_	superola back	12:56
Superola	hi :D	12:56
oe1skw_	does it work without ufw?	12:56
Superola	ehm im lockedout	12:56
Superola	disabling ufw was lockout lol	12:56
Superola	so i cant access it anymore xD	12:57
oe1skw_	without ufw?	12:57
Superola	mhm	12:57
oe1skw_	with disabled ufw it should be all acceibe	12:57
Superola	is iptables also a firewall?	12:57
oe1skw_	ufw is a frontend for iptables	12:58
Exterminador	output of dmesg: https://paste.ubuntu.com/25146204/	12:58
oe1skw_	so you can modify iptables with ufw	12:58
Superola	ehm	12:58
oerheks	Exterminador, line #938 ath9k 0000:04:00.0 wlp4s0: renamed from wlan0 ..	13:00
oerheks	did you manually use wlan0? as 16.04 should use the new interface naming wlp4s0	13:00
Exterminador	oerheks: i think i didnt	13:01
Exterminador	output of smartctl -a /dev/sda: https://paste.ubuntu.com/25146219/	13:01
oerheks	then it is just that ath9 wifi device that needs long authentication	13:02
oerheks	on wired you would not have to wait that long.	13:02
Exterminador	oerheks: any way to check that to help speed up?	13:03
Exterminador	or not really?	13:03
Exterminador	i think my hdd is getting old.. :x	13:03
oerheks	Nope, i don't know how to speed that up	13:04
Exterminador	well, 2min isn't that long	13:04
oerheks	well, t4300 is not the latest technology, no vt-x and such ...	13:04
oerheks	maybe that is of influence too	13:04
Exterminador	what do you think about the smartctl output?	13:04
Exterminador	yeah, its about 8-9 years old	13:05
warri0rr	hello, i'm trying to launch a programi via xinit, without window manager. Technically it should run without superuser powers but I get the error: Cannot open virtual console 2 (permission denied).	13:07
oerheks	Exterminador, smart is not that bad, maybe a simple ssd can speed up that machine to usable.	13:08
Exterminador	yeah, i was thinking in one	13:09
Exterminador	maybe for Xmas	13:09
Stinky-Feet	warri0rr: You will need to provide a lot more information than that. Here comes a deludge of things that you might want to boil down into a short description of your problem: What is your environment? How are you accessing it? What are you trying to do? It is a permission problem; have you tried it as root? If so, have you looked it as root?	13:16
warri0rr	I found out it's a ubuntu bug	13:16
warri0rr	already found out a workaround	13:16
chr0n1c	hi all.. i'm getting blackscreen after boot... only the recovery mode works.. any sugestions about how to resolv this?	13:17
EriC^^	chr0n1c: try an older kernel	13:17
EriC^^	grub > advanced > choose an older kernel	13:18
chr0n1c	i tryed this.. no success	13:18
chr0n1c	i installed new one to.. but no success either	13:18
EriC^^	chr0n1c: how did the problem start?	13:18
chr0n1c	just like magic... onde day i boot.. and this happen =)	13:18
warri0rr	swarfega, did you happen to be a member of rune-server in the past?	13:19
EriC^^	chr0n1c: do you have autologin enabled?	13:20
warri0rr	Ups. wrong chat	13:20
warri0rr	I'm an idiot	13:20
chr0n1c	EriC^^, nop..	13:20
EriC^^	chr0n1c: look at /var/log/syslog and /var/log/boot and /var/log/lightdm/*	13:21
EriC^^	chr0n1c: first in grub remove "quiet splash" and see what you get	13:21
Exterminador	how to update to Xubuntu 17.04 via command line? any advise against? :x	13:24
tim167	how do I check for / fix errors on an SD card ?	13:27
tim167	some files on it are garbled, and when I try to copy them over to my harddisk I get errors like i/o error, or no such file or directory...	13:28
ahrs	Exterminador: do-release-upgrade if I remember correctly.	13:28
EriC^^	tim167: with it not mounted, sudo fsck -f /dev/sdxY	13:28
EriC^^	Exterminador: are you on 16.10?	13:29
tim167	EriC^^, thanks I'll try that	13:29
Exterminador	EriC^^: 16.04.2 LTS	13:29
EriC^^	tim167: no problem	13:30
EriC^^	Exterminador: it's up to you	13:31
EriC^^	you'll need to update to 17.10 once that comes out, then 18.04	13:31
tim167	EriC^^, it asks me many times to either "Delete LFN" or "Leave it as it is"...etc, is there a way to run it non-interactive?	13:32
ahrs	tim167: Add -a or -y to the command (See: fsck --help)	13:33
Exterminador	here's the deal. im pretending to reinstall windows 10 from pro to home edition. and perhaps reinstall xubuntu also. but i'd like to save all the files, symlinks(?) of the current xubuntu and then just recover it. is that possible? and what do i need in order to install more than 2 OSes? make 2nd partition as logical insted primary?	13:33
tim167	ahrs, ok, thanks	13:34
Exterminador	s/insted/instead	13:34
EriC^^	Exterminador: you want to install windows without wiping your current xubuntu install?	13:35
tim167	ahrs, although "assume yes to all questions" is ambiguous, because many questions are choices between more than two options	13:35
BluesKaj	Hiyas all	13:35
tim167	ahrs, or does "yes" imply the 1st option on everything?	13:36
Exterminador	EriC^^: yes. but afaik, i cant install more than 2 OS's, because the partition where Xubuntu lives is set also as primary. am I correct?	13:36
Exterminador	and it can't be changed to logical on runtime	13:37
BluesKaj	Exterminador, even with a bios you can still have 4 primaries	13:38
BluesKaj	windows needs only one	13:39
tim167	fsck seems to hang indefinitely at "Truncating file to 184188928 bytes." , how do I get it to continue?	13:40
ahrs	tim167: "Yes" means "yes" to everything. It will automatically repair the file system.	13:40
tim167	ahrs, I tried the -p option now, which looks like it also should repair automatically, but it hangs, (see my previous mssg)	13:40
Exterminador	erm.. how do i start GParted in english language? (default languge is portuguese)	13:41
MWM	sudo gparted	13:41
MWM	er...gksudo gparted	13:41
tim167	ahrs, just interrupted it, and tried with -y instead of -p, still hangs at the same place, "Truncating file to 184188928 bytes."	13:41
MWM	I am looking for something similar to http://www.sketchup.com/ for ubuntu. Anyone know of something I can use? I saw tuts to install Sketchup in ubuntu but I have to use Wine or something and I would rather use something from the repos if it exists	13:43
Exterminador	nope, still starts in portuguese :x	13:43
ahrs	tim167: Hmm, no idea why it would do that. Can't help you sorry. Maybe try another tool like gparted and see if it can repair the file system?	13:43
MWM	Is your whole system in portuguese or just gparted? thats kind fo a funny problem	13:44
tim167	ahrs, will do, thanks	13:44
Exterminador	MWM: the whole system	13:44
warri0rr	Exterminador: then change the language	13:45
MWM	and you just want gparted to start in English but not change the whole system?	13:45
Exterminador	MWM: correct	13:45
Exterminador	i know it's possible but dont remember the exact command	13:46
MWM	Oh! Well that is different than I thought. I dont know how to do that. if I find something I will let you know	13:46
MWM	https://makandracards.com/makandra/28205-linux-running-a-program-with-a-different-locale-than-your-default maybe this will help?	13:48
MWM	is there a Sketchup equivalent for ubuntu?	13:49
BlackDalek	oerheks, you still around. I got back from work and tried setting up the deluged daemon again. I've got as far as creating the deluged.service and deluge-web.service, and they have been enabled and started with systemctl start. Now I'm stuck again trying to figure out how to get my torrents to show up again in the web UI. I've entered the torrent download location in the preferences, but there is nowhere to tell it	13:50
MWM	Nm found one. Thanks	13:50
BlackDalek	the location of the torrent states. Can you help?	13:50
BlackDalek	There is nothing in the deluged setup guide I can find :( I must not be looking in the right place.	13:51
BlackDalek	The good news is I am not getting any errors this time	13:53
Exterminador	this is how my partitions look in GParted https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/hZChttE9/partitions.png	13:56
hosas	ioria: please do you know to resolve this dependency: http://paste.ubuntu.com/25146477/ I was trying to install DeepForge. Thanks in advance	13:58
Exterminador	when i tell GParted to create a new partition: https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/7kdmW2Rr/gparted_error.png	14:00
BlackDalek	Can anyone tell me how to get my torrent states back so that deluged daemon can "see" them? Currently it thinks I have no torrents because it can't find my torrent states (stored at ~/.config/deluge )... How do I let deluged find the torrent state info?	14:03
unholymachine	WHAT EVEN	14:05
BlackDalek	I concur	14:06
BlackDalek	is there anyone around who knows their way around the deluged daemon?	14:18
hosas	ioria: no need aptitude did the trick, Thanks	14:21
DJones	BlackDalek: I'm assuming you're using Deluge for torrents, maybe worth asking in #deluge on freenode, that looks like their official support channel	14:22
BlackDalek	DJones, been in an out of there all day - no activity. I think everyone died in there. ;)	14:24
ConsoleFx	I am running one Python command via bash and that returns me a bunch of integer values. I want to pipe the retrieved output to match against a file (via grep). I believe something like tee should help but I am not sure how can I leverage. Any pointers would be really helpful!	15:10
ConsoleFx	something like $ python script.py \| tee >(grep $stdout)	15:11
ConsoleFx	something like $ python script.py \| tee >(grep $stdout) <target_filename.txt>	15:11
FManTropyx	why do I have 406 processes?	15:12
linux-phaedrus	ConsoleFX: what is the reason for the 'tee'? If script.py produces the integer values that you want to match against a set of patterns in a file named patterns.txt, you can use:	15:14
linux-phaedrus	python script.py \| grep -f patterns.txt	15:14
ConsoleFx	linux-phaedrus, I want to match the return (int) values against a file on the fly rather than doing the same via python once again	15:14
linux-phaedrus	so are the patterns in the file - meaning you want to FILTER the list of integers against the list of patterns?	15:15
ConsoleFx	linux-phaedrus, -f is for filename right? Would it take stdout of the script?	15:15
leftyfb	ConsoleFx: try it	15:16
linux-phaedrus	grep reads from stdout of previous command in pipeline (grep reads from stdIN) by default	15:16
BlackDalek	After following this guide - http://dev.deluge-torrent.org/wiki/UserGuide/Service/systemd - I now have a new user on the system called "deluge" with access to /var/lib/deluge. I need to copy the files from ~/.config/deluge to /var/lib/deluge/.config/deluge BUT my user has no access to that folder - permision denied if I try to view it or anything. How do I fix this?	15:16
ConsoleFx	unfortunately its not working	15:17
tgm4883	ConsoleFx: the -f is the patterns that you're looking for in the output	15:17
ConsoleFx	I trired something like: python final.py \| grep -Pi "^\d+" -o \| grep -f match_here.rules	15:17
tgm4883	you specify those in a file	15:17
ConsoleFx	tgm4883, yeah surely I could do that, But I am curious to know this trick on how to do it on the fly via stdout and re-directing the value to grep	15:18
ConsoleFx	I have seen people using these kinda tricks. thus this curiosity	15:19
linux-phaedrus	ConsoleFX: that way of piping SHOULD work. Depends on what final.py produces and what match_here.rules contains	15:19
tgm4883	ConsoleFx: so final.py spits out stuff, you then filter for digits, then filter those digits on something from match_here.rules	15:20
ConsoleFx	linux-phaedrus, the script returns a bunch of strings but I am filtering it to print only the starting digits and those digits I want to against another file	15:20
ConsoleFx	Hope I could pass on my doubt clearly :s	15:21
linux-phaedrus	ConsoleFX: So that pipeline should work if your match_here.rules is correct	15:21
tgm4883	I don't understand what you're trying to do	15:21
tgm4883	Why the second grep?	15:21
ConsoleFx	tgm4883, first grep is to extract the digits from the first line (generated from the python script) and secondly, those extracted values I want to match against match_here.rules (in second grep)	15:22
tgm4883	ConsoleFx: ok, that makes sense. And you want to use something "on the fly" rather than the rules file?	15:23
ConsoleFx	tgm4883, on the fly -> basically my stdout integer values (extracted from first grep)	15:24
tgm4883	Maybe it's too early, I still am not sure I understand	15:25
linux-phaedrus	ConsoleFX: No way to tell what you will get without seeing content of match_here.rules	15:25
ConsoleFx	linux-phaedrus, I want to match against match_here.rules as that would double-confirm me, if the (which script extracted) values from another file (e.g. python read_1.txt) are correct.	15:27
ConsoleFx	Probably I am missing some link to explain my situation :(	15:28
linux-phaedrus	ComnsoleFX: provide a couple of examples of lines produced by final.py that you DO want to appear in th eoutput and a couple of lines that you do NOT want to appear	15:29
ConsoleFx	linux-phaedrus, sure. makes sense.. Let me paste somewhere the script output. I feel that would clear the ambiguities	15:31
max3	i just had the weirdest thing happen. i'm working on a project in an intellij ide (gogland). i cloned a repo into my working directory, dragged all of the files in my working directory into the cloned repo, and boom everything is gone from my file system	15:32
max3	the files have gotta be somewhere right?	15:32
max3	how can i find them	15:32
vlt	max3: What exactly did you do?	15:34
max3	i did exactly what i described. dragged files using the ide ui	15:35
max3	this in principle should have just moved the files from my working directory into the directory of the cloned repo	15:36
leftyfb	max3: I would use the find or locate command to look for files you know should have been part of that clone.	15:36
max3	i tried that	15:36
Exterminador	erm.. what's the command to create a bootable usb? :x	15:37
ConsoleFx	linux-phaedrus, something like this should explain the problem clearly: http://dpaste.com/05WPQ2M	15:37
max3	leftyfb, from / find . -name doesn't show anything	15:37
leftyfb	max3: try locate (after updatedb)	15:37
leftyfb	max3: if they're gone, then blame the ide you're using.	15:37
max3	updatedb: can not open a temporary file for `/var/lib/mlocate/mlocate.db'	15:37
max3	that's great but the data has to be somewhere	15:38
leftyfb	max3: sudo updatedb	15:38
linux-phaedrus	ConsoleFX: You can try the following:	15:38
ConsoleFx	max3, try with sudo	15:38
max3	locate doesn't find the files either	15:38
leftyfb	max3: if there is a bug with your IDE and it wiped them out, then no, the data could verywell be gone	15:38
max3	unbelievable	15:39
linux-phaedrus	python script.py \| grep "^\d+" -o \| tee test.txt \| fgrep -x '^\d+$'	15:39
ConsoleFx	max3, $sudo find / -type f -name "yourfile_name.xyz"	15:39
max3	ConsoleFx, i even without the -f qualifier it doesn't find	15:40
linux-phaedrus	ConsoleFX: the first grep is what you already had. The tee saves output to text.txt (so you can look at how the first grep worked).	15:40
max3	(yes with sudo)	15:40
linux-phaedrus	ConsoleFX: the second grep matches with a constrained regex (line regex that matches only lines containing ONLY a number)	15:40
linux-phaedrus	ConsoleFX: You do not NEED th etee part - that is just there to save the output of the first grep in a file to study / confirm	15:42
linux-phaedrus	ConsoleFX: Alternately, you can try: python script.py \| grep "^\d+" -o \| grep -x '^\d+$'	15:42
Exterminador	don't: locate "filename.txt" i.e works?	15:43
linux-phaedrus	Actually in my first answer replace the last fgrep with grep - should NOT be fgrep there (since you are using a pattern)	15:43
linux-phaedrus	ConsoleFX: python script.py \| grep "^\d+" -o \| tee test.txt \| grep -x '^\d+$'	15:43
linux-phaedrus	ConsoleFX: Or alternately, just: python script.py \| grep "^\d+" -o \| fgrep -x '^\d+$'	15:44
ConsoleFx	linux-phaedrus, I tried this but doesn't seem to work :( $python script.py \| grep -Pio "^\d+" \| fgrep -x '^\d+$' match_here.rules	15:47
ConsoleFx	linux-phaedrus, grep and fgreps are different somehow?	15:50
linux-phaedrus	ConsoleFX: to use \d you need the -P option to grep. So the correct pipeline to use (and then test) your regex would be:	15:56
devster31	what happens if I update exfat-fuse while a mount is using it?	15:57
ConsoleFx	linux-phaedrus, yeah i have used -P actually	15:57
linux-phaedrus	ConsoleFX: python script.py \| grep -Po "^\d+" \| tee test.txt \| grep -Px '\d+'	15:57
ConsoleFx	linux-phaedrus, lemme try	15:57
linux-phaedrus	ConsoleFX: python script.py \| grep -Po "^\d+" \| tee test.txt \| grep -Px '^\d+$' also works, but the '^$' are unnecessary when using -x (whole-line)	15:58
ConsoleFx	linux-phaedrus, ^\d is just to extract only the starting digits from each line	15:59
ConsoleFx	linux-phaedrus, not sure why this is not working :(	16:00
ConsoleFx	linux-phaedrus, did it work for you (just in-case)?	16:00
linux-phaedrus	Yes it worked for me - I saved your test strings in a file and used the following command: grep -Po '^\d+' test \| grep -Px '\d+'	16:01
linux-phaedrus	where test is the name of the file I saved the test strings	16:01
ConsoleFx	linux-phaedrus, damn its not working for me!!! (shocking)	16:02
linux-phaedrus	ConsoleFX: The following also worked: grep -Po '^\d+' test \| tee t1 \| grep -Px '^\d+$'	16:03
linux-phaedrus	ConsoleFX: First try the first half - up to and including the first grep - see that you're getting what you want. Then try upto and including the tee and check what is in the tee file (test.txt)	16:04
ConsoleFx	linux-phaedrus, sure	16:05
kristhian	hi i am using ubuntu 14.04 lts and systemtcl command is not found?	16:38
kristhian	how is this possible?	16:38
warri0rr	the way you typed it	16:38
kristhian	nothing on the internet seems to help	16:38
warri0rr	it is truly not present	16:38
kristhian	i mean systemctl	16:38
kristhian	kristhian@kristhian-emachines-D725:~$ sudo systemctl restart vsftpd	16:39
kristhian	sudo: systemctl: command not found	16:39
rypervenche	kristhian: 14.04 uses upstart, not systemd	16:40
kristhian	so it should be sudo upstart vsftpd	16:40
warri0rr	sudo service vsftpd restart	16:40
kristhian	oh	16:40
kristhian	ok	16:40
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dexterM	Hi	17:19
fedorafan	hey is there a way if I configure something and there are needs of dependancy to get them automatically	17:55
fedorafan	./configure this one	17:56
SchrodingersScat	fedorafan: one thing is 'apt-get build-dep packagename' This should get the dependencies to build the package if it's in the repos.	17:57
fedorafan	I got it from github	17:58
xRob_	Hello, my computer only boots with recovery mode, the windows partition works fine as well.	17:58
SchrodingersScat	fedorafan: then not afaik.	17:58
fedorafan	ok	17:58
xRob_	"NMI watchdog: BUG: soft lockup - CPU#1 stuck for 22s!"	17:59
xRob_	I'm installing proprietary drivers, idk	18:01
fedorafan	SchrodingersScat it says xorg-server not found	18:03
fedorafan	but there is just the package xorg-server-sources I installed and it doesnt work	18:04
fedorafan	feel free no need to help me maybe another know it	18:04
xRob_	Holy shit.. it worked	18:05
=== warri0rr is now known as IndianGuru
=== IndianGuru is now known as warri0rr
cipher6	how can I lock the screen when running w/o a gui?	18:44
cipher6	Like I'm on tty1 and I need to step away from the computer, but I do NOT want to close my sessions or end any of my programs	18:44
Younder	tried 'clear'?	18:45
ioria	!info vlock	18:45
ubottu	vlock (source: vlock): Virtual Console locking program. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.2.2-8 (zesty), package size 33 kB, installed size 111 kB	18:45
Spec	you should consider doing your work in a screen session	18:45
cipher6	!man vlock	18:45
cipher6	lol	18:45
cipher6	Spec: explain?	18:45
ioria	!info physlock	18:45
ubottu	physlock (source: physlock): lightweight Linux console locking tool. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.4.5-2 (zesty), package size 10 kB, installed size 35 kB	18:45
Spec	!info screen	18:45
ubottu	screen (source: screen): terminal multiplexer with VT100/ANSI terminal emulation. In component main, is optional. Version 4.5.0-5ubuntu1 (zesty), package size 550 kB, installed size 1019 kB	18:45
Younder	Standard	18:46
Spec	cipher6: it's a virtual tty that lets you have more than one screen, and you can detach/reattach at will, on a tty or via ssh/etc	18:46
cipher6	I'm launching lubuntu w/o a DE so I'm only running in tty1	18:46
Spec	so 'screen' or 'tmux' lets you detach/log out/log in/reattach	18:46
Younder	You can just clear the screen form the teminal	18:46
Spec	Younder: 'clear' does not prevent unauthorized access?	18:46
cipher6	Younder, what good would clearing the screen do?	18:46
cipher6	I'm not trying to leave my terminal sitting at a prompt??	18:46
Spec	cipher6: 'screen' is very useful, i'd recommend it, but it looks like vlock would do exactly what you're asking	18:47
cipher6	Spec: I'll try screen then	18:47
Spec	screen doesn't lock itself though, it's just a way to log out/log in and resume what you were doing	18:47
cipher6	I know I can force them to the background using ^Z and bg/fg	18:47
cipher6	that's where you start a program by literally typing "$: screen top" or whatever cmd?	18:47
cipher6	and then ^D to detach and what's for locking?	18:48
cipher6	(Yes, I could pull the man but I'll either have to launch lynx or install screen and I haen't done that yet ;)	18:48
Younder	Well the logout or exit	19:05
Younder	then	19:05
cipher6	Younder: if I exit, it'll end my session,	19:06
Spec	cipher6: yeah, detach with ctrl-a,d and then logout	19:06
cipher6	if I logout, it'll end my session.	19:06
Spec	cipher6: log back in, "screen -r" to resume (or screen -x to resume/share)	19:06
Spec	your session of Things and Stuff will stay in screen you see	19:06
cipher6	Spec: Thanks m8	19:07
Spec	ctrl-a,c to create a new window in screen, and ctrl-a,n to go to "the next window"	19:07
cipher6	That makes good sense, so if I'm already running from tty1, and I open screen, I won't really see a diference	19:07
Spec	right, you must start screen first	19:07
Spec	you can't throw something into screen once it's started	19:07
cipher6	so before I had been using alt+F*[1-6]	19:08
cipher6	and logging in to each tty,	19:08
cipher6	which was a pain in the ass, but screen should resolve this for me	19:08
Spec	cipher6: indeed	19:08
cipher6	HOLY SHIT I JUST CREATED THE CRAZIEST FUCKING LOOP and God INCEPTIONED ALL UP IN MY TERMINAL	19:09
cipher6	LOL	19:09
cipher6	I typed screen, and hit return	19:09
cipher6	and it just took me to a new terminal screen,	19:09
cipher6	so I typed it again	19:09
cipher6	and again	19:09
cipher6	and again	19:09
cipher6	then ran PS	19:09
cipher6	and nothing was running,	19:09
cipher6	so i typed exit,	19:09
cipher6	and it took me back to a prompt that said "$: screen	19:10
Younder	https://askubuntu.com/questions/18802/how-to-correctly-add-a-custom-daemon-to-init-d	19:10
cipher6	$: flashing cursor	19:10
cipher6	i hadjust been going further and furhter down,	19:10
cipher6	screening screen like a russian nesting doll from *nix hell LOL	19:10
cipher6	is there any way to tell you're in screen?	19:11
white_magic	hi, for some reason I cannot create new tabs in Gedit. If i do ctrl+n, it just opens a new Gedit window. Is there a way to fix it?	19:24
cipher6	!info gedit	19:28
ubottu	gedit (source: gedit): official text editor of the GNOME desktop environment. In component main, is optional. Version 3.22.0-2ubuntu1 (zesty), package size 420 kB, installed size 1905 kB	19:28
sary	white_magic: I'm able to open a new tab by clickin' on > or + .. don't know about a key shortcut though.	19:29
sary	it seems to be an old gedit issue though..	19:30
ioria	white_magic, does it works from File -> New ?	19:30
white_magic	ioria: it does :(	19:32
white_magic	i'm just using notepad++ shortcuts by habit i guess	19:32
white_magic	i'll just use ctrl+t now	19:32
ioria	white_magic, so, you maybe remap that shortcut ?	19:33
white_magic	yea about to haha	19:33
white_magic	i really wish notepad++ was native to linux	19:33
ioria	heheh	19:33
white_magic	the wine version isn't as responsive	19:33
Younder	white_magic, vim is the way I go	19:34
white_magic	ehhhhhhh	19:34
white_magic	i use vim when editing config files	19:34
white_magic	i love using vim for that purpose	19:34
Younder	difficult to learn but far more powerful	19:34
white_magic	that's it	19:34
white_magic	Younder: sorry but vim isn't better for programming than an actual IDE	19:35
white_magic	perhaps as a text editor it might be better than notepad++	19:35
white_magic	i'll give you that	19:35
Younder	white_magic, I also use eclipse and emacs and atom	19:36
white_magic	Younder: hate to be that guy but have you tried vs code?	19:39
white_magic	similar to Atom but much more performant	19:39
white_magic	i'm not even gonna mention Visual Studio itself	19:39
ioria	the point of vim is that it's a 'pure' text editor	19:41
ioria	but honestly, idk how many people use it for programming	19:41
white_magic	ioria: it seems like a lot of people use it.. or at least they claim to do so on the internet	19:48
ioria	ok	19:48
Flannel	white_magic: SciTE is very similar to notepad++, because notepad++ uses scintilla for the rendering (and SciTE is a reference implementation, basically).	19:49
white_magic	hmm last i checked scite didnt seem to be very actively developed	19:50
Flannel	white_magic: It doesn't have some of the "Extra" non-editor features, but from a purely editing standpoint, it's the same	19:50
white_magic	yea i use a good number of plugins in notepad++	19:50
white_magic	oh well, ill adapt	19:50
white_magic	its just a very impressive little app that i use every day on every windows machine	19:50
Flannel	white_magic: Last release May 2017.	19:50
devster31	does an exFAT module for kernel exist?	19:53
devster31	or some other kernel-based way to mount exFAT stuff?	19:53
ioria	!info exfat-fuse	19:54
ubottu	exfat-fuse (source: fuse-exfat): read and write exFAT driver for FUSE. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.2.5-2 (zesty), package size 30 kB, installed size 78 kB (Only available for linux-any; kfreebsd-any)	19:54
ioria	!info exfat-utils	19:54
ubottu	exfat-utils (source: exfat-utils): utilities to create, check, label and dump exFAT filesystem. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.2.5-2 (zesty), package size 48 kB, installed size 255 kB	19:54
devster31	neither of those are kernel-based, they both require fuse	19:54
ioria	no idea, then	19:55
ioria	cat /proc/filesystems	19:55
ioria	devster31, i think it's patented	19:56
marvin42	Greetings, I was using NVidea's proprietary driver until now but I decided to give the Nouveau driver a chance. After applying the Noveau driver I rebooted but the resolution was very low. Henceforth, I did "apt get install xserver-xorg-video-noveau". It installed all necessary packages. * Then I rebooted and, at the time that the login screen should appear, the screen stays blank, with the cursor on the top left of the screen	20:00
marvin42	<marvin42> <marvin42> appearing and disappearing. * I've tried hitting the Shift key to get the GRUB menu but it doesn't show up. I've tried pressing Shift + Alt + F1 (or 1) to try and get to the command line but no luck. I'm able to access the HD using a Live CD. What can I do to revert the NVidia driver settings to the configuration that worked?	20:00
white_magic	ioria: I can't see how i can re-map shortcuts in gedit. I don't see that in preferences anywhere, nor a relevant plugin. Any ideas?	20:02
ioria	white_magic, nope, i said that you probably already have done that :þ	20:03
white_magic	got it	20:04
Exterminador	guys, HELP please! :X http://paste.ubuntu.com/25148649/	20:07
Exterminador	fresh install of ubuntu	20:08
Exterminador	:/	20:08
Exterminador	ive installed ubuntu in a logical partition if that helps	20:09
Exterminador	what should i do? https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/8QYaRFKi/irccloudcapture1854616836.jpg	20:19
th0r	Exterminador, you might start by doing what it says to do	20:25
DoYouKnow	Exterminador: boot off the install disk, and run fsck	20:27
DoYouKnow	Exterminador: if you have a UEFI, you can just run fsck /dev/sd5	20:28
DoYouKnow	I think the /dev/sdX syntax is invariant then	20:28
DoYouKnow	fsck /dev/sda5	20:28
Exterminador	DoYouKnow: there's no install disk now..	20:28
DoYouKnow	Exterminador: is there anywhere you can go to make one? You just need a copy of lili linuxlive usb creator on windows or unetbootin on linux	20:29
Exterminador	I'll do it on windows	20:30
Exterminador	with Rufus	20:30
DoYouKnow	ok	20:30
DoYouKnow	then just start ubuntu without installing and open a Terminal	20:30
DoYouKnow	then type the fsck command	20:30
DoYouKnow	under sudo	20:30
Exterminador	it only says "fsck from util-linux 2.27.1"	20:39
Exterminador	on the live usb	20:39
Exterminador	I guess my Ubuntu pen is corrupted	20:41
Exterminador	I'll try to redownload Ubuntu and reinstall it	20:41
cuddylier	Is there anyway to avoid a kdump taking a long time to create on boot after a kernel panic?	20:49
Exterminador	is it possible that I've messed up the bootable USB stick running usb-creator-gtk on Xubuntu?	21:01
warri0rr	Yes it's possible	21:17
Exterminador	I've redone the usb stick with Rufus on Windows	21:21
Exterminador	let's see what happens	21:21
Exterminador	I remember once of seeing a command to create a bootable USB stick with 'dd' command	21:23
Exterminador	but don't remember the proper syntax	21:24
cuddylier	I'm getting this kernel panic. Any ideas? I know IPv6 is mentioned but I haven't got it enabled: http://paste.ubuntu.com/25149098/	21:25
Exterminador	seems that indeed was usb-creator-gtk that have messed up the USB stick	21:33
Exterminador	now that I've made it with Rufus all seems to work properly	21:33
CuteAlien	Hi! I'm currently close to getting Ubuntu 17.04 installed, but failing at last step. My problem: Nouveau driver freezes always very fast. I spend all afternoon on installer and one time I manged to install the nvida driver before freeze happened and could install everything on hd. But now on hd - driver freezes even faster and I never win that race.	21:54
CuteAlien	So.. any trick to get to nvidia driver before nouveau driver freezes up?	21:54
CuteAlien	Sometimes (one in 5 I manage to log-in) - but that's about it.	21:55
Bashing-om	!nomodeset \| CuteAlien	21:56
ubottu	CuteAlien: A common kernel (boot)parameter is nomodeset, which is needed for some graphic cards that otherwise boot into a black screen or show corrupted splash screen. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132 on how to use this parameter	21:56
GreenDimond	So, I am using xgamma to try and adjust one of my monitors gamma, but when I use xgamme -gamma 1.2 it adjusts both monitors' gamma. I only want to adjust one of them, but using xgamma -display yellowjacket:DFP-0 -gamma 1.2 says it cant find the monitor	21:57
GreenDimond	I have tried a lot of combinations to find the display, but none of them work.	21:57
Bashing-om	CuteAlien: ^^ then after getting booted with nomoeset, install the proprietary driver .	21:58
CuteAlien	hm, I managed to press alt+F1 this time before the freeze! So... if I can install it from console - would also be fine	21:58
CuteAlien	And I got no boot-loader options (like grub). Ubuntu is the only system on that computer so it boots directly - no chance to set boot options.	22:00
Bashing-om	CuteAlien: If you can gain a consile interface try ' sudo apt update ; sudo apt full-upgrade ; sudo ubuntu-drivers autoinstall ' .	22:00
CuteAlien	thanks, will try	22:00
white_magic	anyone here use Cmder terminal emulator.. or maybe just ConEmu?	22:01
Bashing-om	CuteAlien: If this is a EFI machine it is the escape key that grub looks for . spam the escape key . Only a 3 second window of oportunity .	22:01
GreenDimond	Anyone fluent in xgamma? :P	22:02
compdoc	I know a little umamma	22:03
CuteAlien	Bashing-om, even worse - ESC key on that computer opens bios-options for boot order. So I have to hit the time after that - before grub...	22:03
GreenDimond	compdoc: ...	22:04
GreenDimond	just...	22:04
GreenDimond	no..	22:04
Bashing-om	CuteAlien: Wait til bios hands off . As soon as the firmware screen clears spam the escape key .	22:04
CuteAlien	Bashing-om, yeah, if this fails. I try updating packages right now - maybe I'm lucky and that works already. And I guess if not - when reaching console I should also be able to switch to nvidia proprietary drivers somehow.	22:05
GreenDimond	xgamma -display yellowjacket:DFP-0 says it cant find the display, maybe I have the display name wrong, but I have tried stuff like DVI-0 0 0.0 etc..	22:06
Bashing-om	CuteAlien: A fresh install attempt ? Then the driver will be open source .	22:06
CuteAlien	Bashing-om, I need whole afternoon just to get it to install... it's past midnight now. And... I need proprietry nvidia anyway as I'm doing 3D development.	22:07
CuteAlien	I like open-source really (I write free software), but sometimes... ah well.	22:07
Bashing-om	CuteAlien: . Once booted then can install the proprietary driver . Installing: did you verify the .iso file and did you verify the copy to media ?	22:08
CuteAlien	I did. Let's wait until it's finished with current package updates (still running), maybe that works already (seems to have new kernel and stuff)	22:09
GreenDimond	Bashing-om, know anything about xgamma? :/	22:10
Bashing-om	CuteAlien: On this present install I have to run the nvidia proprietary driver .	22:10
Bashing-om	GreenDimond: No, have not used it . but ' xrandr --verbose ' will give ya the display names .	22:11
GreenDimond	alright thanks	22:11
DoYouKnow	hi. I need to play lots of content simultaneously. Any ideas for this?	22:17
DoYouKnow	I've been opening multiple youtube windows	22:17
Exterminador	erm... how do we create launcher shortcuts? there's no right click mouse option!!	22:29
CuteAlien	Bashing-om, package updates + ubuntu-drivers autoinstall did the trick. Got a working system now :-) Thanks for the help!	22:39
CuteAlien	Exterminador, I think - start once - then click icon and say "lock to launcher"	22:40
Bashing-om	CuteAlien: Glad2help : Happy trails to you :)	22:41
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Exterminador	CuteAlien: yeah, but that is the double of the work :/	22:42
Shaan	Hi guys ive got ubuntu 16.04 LTS install on my Vm with a desktop, however whenever i try run wget with an ftp involved it just hangs indefinitly..	22:42
Shaan	and only way to recover it is, to restart the system is this a known issue?	22:42
cynicist	Exterminador: You can just search for the app and click and drag it to either the dock or desktop.	22:43
Exterminador	cynicist: for Strem.io, the best option is to create a launcher tho	22:44
Disaster_Area	some of my programs have been known to flicker and I think it's a system-wide issue for me. Programs that flicker include Discord and rarely other programs like SMPlayer or Minecraft. If anyone knows a fix or the cause, let me know :]	22:46
CuteAlien	Disaster_Area, if it's not only one app then it might be graphic driver.	22:52
Disaster_Area	well, it's mainly one app, but you might still be right. So	22:53
Disaster_Area	if it's a graphic driver, what can I do to fix it	22:53
Shaan	so no one has any inpuet why wget is causing ubuntu to hang?	22:53
Shaan	I just tested on a non desktop ubuntu and it worked fine...	22:54
Shaan	Doesn't entirely makes sense, why it would onyl occur on a desktop system	22:54
CuteAlien	ok, I also got a new problem. My clock is one hour off. Likely something about UTC/localtime messup. Except - it's set to get time automatically from internet (I didn't change any default settings). No other OS installed - so UTC or localtime would both be fine to me - as long as clock is fine. Clock off is trouble - all ssh stuff (like pretty much all websites) won't work...	22:58
CuteAlien	Disaster_Area, check graphic-driver options - install one of the other ones which are not active	23:00
CuteAlien	Disaster_Area, in system settings - software & updates - Additional drivers	23:01
Disaster_Area	thank you	23:01
Bashing-om	CuteAlien: Is the hardware clock set correctly in bios ?	23:02
CuteAlien	Bashing-om, good question - can check. But.. it should update time from internet - so it should set it even if it's wrong there.	23:03
CuteAlien	And I'm not sure what "correct" is for Ubuntu - depends on if it uses UTC or localtime ...	23:03
CuteAlien	heh - bios time is 2 hours off - computer time is 1 hour off (it should use Berlin - which is set...)	23:05
Bashing-om	CuteAlien: ubuntu uses UTC for the time . also maybe in the install you set the wrong time zone ? ' sudo dpkg-reconfigure tzdata ' to reset the time zone info .	23:06
Bashing-om	CuteAlien: I expect the hardware clock to also be set to UTC .	23:07
CuteAlien	will try... also got another problem - I could start Firefox once. Then I started it once in private mode. Since then - I can only start it in private mode - starting usual way - short wait-cursors. Then nothing.	23:09
CuteAlien	New installs are fun^^	23:09
Bashing-om	CuteAlien: FF. can not say . No experience with it .	23:10
CuteAlien	Hm, I think it doesn't know about daylight saving time	23:12
CuteAlien	ah no tzdata reconfiguring - it says utc time right now is around midnight..	23:13
CuteAlien	(which is off by an hour it seems)	23:14
CuteAlien	and now works. OK, whatever it was (maybe took some time to fix itself). Rest tomorrow. N8 everyone	23:16
Bashing-om	Cust0sLim3n: systend most likely no longer supports tzdata ?? try as ' sudo timedatectl set-timezone UTC ' .	23:18
marvin42	Hello. I'm having issues with the NVIDIA driver. I tried to install the nouveau driver and the booting froze before the login screen. I was able to remove the nouveau driver and install the package nvidia-current. Now the NVIDIA logo appears and after that the login window. Alas, when the login window appears everything is frozen: the keyboard, mouse, etc. I'm unable to get to a terminal by alt ctrl F1. Can someone help me out on this one_	23:25
Bashing-om	marvin42: We can try. Be aware 'nvidia-current' is not what you think . it is version 340 best I recall . // If you attempt tp boot up with nomodeset, what results ?	23:32
Bashing-om	!info nvidia-current	23:33
ubottu	nvidia-current (source: nvidia-graphics-drivers-304): Transitional package for nvidia-current. In component restricted, is optional. Version 304.135-0ubuntu1 (zesty), package size 4 kB, installed size 19 kB (Only available for i386; amd64)	23:34
Bashing-om	marvin42: correct to be nvidia-current == 304 .	23:34
energizer	How can I find out the original location of a file in .Trash?	23:35
marvin42	Bashing-om, sorry I'm new to Linux. How can I boot with nomodeset? Further, are you suggesting that I install a different version of the driver_	23:35
marvin42	*driver?	23:35
Bashing-om	marvin42: Of a certainty, we will install a differnt driver . When we get the current driver removed .	23:37
Bashing-om	!nomodeset \| marvin42	23:37
ubottu	marvin42: A common kernel (boot)parameter is nomodeset, which is needed for some graphic cards that otherwise boot into a black screen or show corrupted splash screen. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132 on how to use this parameter	23:37
Bashing-om	marvin42: We will get you through this . Is not a thing to sweat over .	23:37
marvin42	Bashing-om, nomodeset in place. Rebooting now.	23:41
BlackDalek	Can someone please tell me the correct command to set read,write,execute privileges for user "deluge" on all files in /var/lib/deluge/.config ? Is it "sudo -u deluge chmod -R u+rwx /var/lib/deluge/.config" ?	23:50
ddellav	BlackDalek almost	23:53
ddellav	BlackDalek chmod sets read,write,execute permissions, chown sets the owner and group	23:53
glowdemon1	Hi. After installing Ubuntu do I need to install AMD drivers as well or does Ubuntu take care of that?	23:53
ddellav	so if you wanted deluge user to access those files you'll need to either set the files as word write/readable or set them as owned by deluge	23:54
ddellav	using chown deluge /path/to/deluge/files	23:54
Jordan_U	glowdemon1: For most cards, for most purposes, the Free drivers that are installed by default are the best to use.	23:54
glowdemon1	I see.	23:54
Jordan_U	(Specifically when it comes to AMD/ati)	23:54
glowdemon1	Ubuntu has been freezing randomly, someoene on stackoverflow suggested to install this linux power management package	23:54
glowdemon1	I hope it solves it because everytime it freezes I had to do a boot-repair	23:55
glowdemon1	Thought it may had to do with my drivers or something	23:55
Jordan_U	glowdemon1: What version of Ubuntu?	23:55
glowdemon1	16.04	23:55
ddellav	BlackDalek furthermore, using sudo -u deluge tells sudo to run the following commands AS the deluge user. Which wouldn't do anything unless the deluge user had write permissions on the files already	23:56

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