[06:49] <lotuspsychje> maxcell_: here you can ask about
[06:50] <lotuspsychje> 17.10 related issues
[06:50] <maxcell_> cool lotuspsychje 
[06:50] <lotuspsychje> maxcell_: im also helping bug out, and it feels real stable already
[06:50] <maxcell_> i can imagine, ubuntu do a good job with desktops
[06:51] <lotuspsychje> yes
[06:51] <maxcell_> since the begnin
[06:51] <maxcell_> when CD's were being distribute on our houses
[06:51] <maxcell_> remember that?
[06:52] <lotuspsychje> maxcell_: they are now searching for users, to help default gnome apps on ubuntu
[06:52] <lotuspsychje> maxcell_: yeah i had ubuntu on cd's back in the days
[06:52] <maxcell_> hmm
[06:52] <lotuspsychje> but mostly downloaded myself
[06:53] <maxcell_> we find that pretty cool because they deliver the CD's to your house for free
[06:54] <maxcell_> so, about the default apps
[06:55] <maxcell_> you mean like, libreoffice instead os wps or just about what basic stuffs that you supposed to have on the system by default?
[06:56] <lotuspsychje> maxcell_: yep
[06:56] <lotuspsychje> maxcell_: browser,chat,email etc
[06:57] <maxcell_> do you have gmail account?
[06:57] <lotuspsychje> yep
[06:57] <maxcell_> do you find an app already that can login into gmail without security problems?
[06:59] <maxcell_> when i try to login the gmail didn't let me, he ask me do disable the security protocol if i want to login
[07:00] <lotuspsychje> maxcell_: i did use some gmail app once
[07:00] <lotuspsychje> but that stopped working somehow
[07:00] <lotuspsychje> maxcell_: try apt-cache search gmail
[07:01] <maxcell_> i just think if you will have an default e-mail app on ubuntu, it should be one that work with gmail login protocol if possible
[07:02] <lotuspsychje> maxcell_: try thunderbird or geary?
[07:02] <maxcell_> geary didn't work back then
[07:02] <maxcell_> i think thuinderbird works
[07:03] <maxcell_> if it works, should be the default one
[07:03] <maxcell_> like on debian, we had iceweasel remember this time?
[07:03] <lotuspsychje> yeah
[07:04] <maxcell_> its simple, you should put the things that work, even if its not that pretty
[07:04] <lotuspsychje> thunderbird i find mature
[07:05] <maxcell_> i dont like thunderbird, personally, but it works so...its better than an app that doesn't
[07:06] <maxcell_> idk i think everybody have an gmail account
[07:06] <maxcell_> google is like dominating the internet
[07:08] <lotuspsychje> !email
[07:08] <lotuspsychje> hmm
[08:08] <jk^> hi all
[08:09] <jk^> https://pastebin.com/raw/sqKukZbU