[10:55] CarlFK: I think your test is invalid. The actual command line used by the installer is rdate -o 123 -nvv ntp.ubuntu.com; the options are critically important [10:56] particularly the port number and the option to cause it to use the SNTP protocol [16:31] yo [16:32] having an odd issue with a preseeded dhcp install [16:33] it seems that even though im using an auto interface with dhcp, it's still setting my interface to static using the dhcp values during the install [16:34] but it doesn't set the gateway or dns server which causes the install to fail [17:18] basically i have to manually edit the connection and set it back to Automatic in NetworkManager [17:18] then disable/enable networking