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IrcsomeBot<ahoneybun> Are you looking for that logo or the animal for 12.04?00:04
IrcsomeBot<ahoneybun> @DGUERRERO00:04
IrcsomeBot<DGUERRERO> @ahoneybun, The logo with the pangolin01:50
IrcsomeBot<ahoneybun> I found it with a Google search01:50
IrcsomeBot<ahoneybun> A decent one I think01:51
IrcsomeBot<DGUERRERO> @ahoneybun, Can you please send me the link?01:54
ahoneybunhttp://ubuntuportal.com/wp-content/uploads/ubuntu-12.04-precise-pangolin.png01:55
IrcsomeBot<ahoneybun> that is the official logo01:56
IrcsomeBot<DGUERRERO> @ahoneybun, yes, but i'm looking for the Kubuntu version01:57
IrcsomeBot<DGUERRERO> (Photo, 165x148) https://irc-attachments.kde.org/qkOOzVo0/file_2954.jpg this one01:57
IrcsomeBot<ahoneybun> I'm not even sure who made that01:57
IrcsomeBot<ahoneybun> that was before me in Kubuntu anyway01:58
IrcsomeBot<DGUERRERO> it was on the official announcememt of 12.04 on the kubuntu webpage (now defunct, but i have low-res copy)01:59
IrcsomeBot<ahoneybun> we copied everything over so we should still have it01:59
IrcsomeBot<DGUERRERO> @ahoneybun, I'm still thinking 12.04 isn't so old anyway hehe02:00
IrcsomeBot<ahoneybun> I was around ubuntu since 10.04 or so but not with Kubuntu official till 13. something02:01
IrcsomeBot<ahoneybun> mm that one seems to be missing the image02:03
IrcsomeBot<DGUERRERO> @ahoneybun, yes, the image is gone, the low-res copy i have is just like this one02:04
IrcsomeBot<ahoneybun> found this: http://blog.davidedmundson.co.uk/blog/whats_coming_lightdm_0202:04
IrcsomeBot<DGUERRERO> Fwd from DGUERRERO: http://www.marcocimmino.net/wp-content/uploads/12.04-lts-banner3.png02:04
IrcsomeBot<ahoneybun> I think it's from kdelook/ kde store02:04
IrcsomeBot<DGUERRERO> hmmm, I'll take a look, I had no idea (always used KDM instead of lightdm)02:06
ahoneybunwell we had lightdm for a little bit of time I think02:06
IrcsomeBot<DGUERRERO> @ahoneybun, yes, but I was kind of arebel and dind't use it, hold back to KDM02:08
IrcsomeBot<DGUERRERO> after a brief search it seems that image isn't served by lightdm, but is somewhere in kubuntu plasma/kde base for 12.04, so I guess I'll have to run a vm with 12.04 and find that sneaky image!02:37
IrcsomeBot<DGUERRERO> bad time for being on vacations only with my phone's internet...02:37
ahoneybunI looked to see if it was in a wallpaper package or something but no luck02:42
SemiNushi06:44
SemiNuswhen I open an ARW file (a RAW file from a Sony camera)  in Gwenview,  it shows me the file.06:44
SemiNusThen I want to export it,  so I save it as JPG  (using gwenview)06:45
SemiNusunfortunately, the saved JPG is much smaller than the ARW file06:45
SemiNuswhat am I doing wrong?06:46
androidwhat kernel version is used for 16.04.206:48
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lordievaderGood morning07:53
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marshawni am using kubuntu for almost 6 months as main os09:56
androidhaving fun marshawn?10:00
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john85hi folks :)11:45
hegemon8hey there john8511:45
john85hey :)11:45
john85hows you?11:45
androidsomsai11:46
androidbonevulent11:46
androidthis is somewhat of a support group11:47
androiddont make confessions except to the brethren11:48
androidin CONTEXT11:48
androidat the time this meant holy kingdom not something intermixed11:49
androida beat down priest surrounded by babylon11:49
androidthere is a time and a place for hugs11:49
john85ok,  now i'm confused,  and I know,  it doesn't take much to confuse me (before anyone else says it)11:50
androidthese channels are like support groups11:51
androidlogon and watch rabbi fiengold john8511:52
androidask me about anything comscerning rabbi fiengold11:52
androidfrom there you can judge for yourself11:53
hegemon8john85: hey, i;'m fine, thanks, sry, busy around laptop, came here socially or i can help You with something? (not too advanced, cause not such a pro^^)11:53
androidwhere you want to go within the support group11:53
john85well, I just installed Kubuntu 2 days ago so I'm just finding my feet at the moment...a few minor issues which im trying to resolve,  but having trouble registering on the forums11:54
androidthere's different conaiderations to make11:54
androidjohn85 what's the problem?11:55
androidlocation can be something to consider with a support group11:56
john85cant get the screen to dim,  even in the power settings11:56
hegemon8johny85, ask then or if want on PM11:56
hegemon8after fresh install it takes me 2 days to slowly set it as i love it :) so sure, ask away :)11:57
hegemon8BluesKaj: hey ther Blue ^^11:57
BluesKajHowdy folks11:57
john85hi :)11:57
BluesKajhi hegemon8, john8511:57
hegemon8good to see You BluesKaj (john85, he is a guy to annoy in more advanced stuff^^)11:58
hegemon8so john85, whats the issues You have?11:59
hegemon8dim... hmm11:59
hegemon8does the.... function keys work?11:59
hegemon8laptop huh?11:59
john85yes, laptop,  some of them do,  but the ones that set screen brightness and volume dont12:00
hegemon8i tried to solve that for years on my sh...iny old nvidia card....12:00
john85its strange because I tried 3 of the live versions before the full install and everything worked fine12:00
john85im not sure which kubuntu version i have tho,  I upgraded from ubuntu by downloading it,  rather than doing a clean install12:01
hegemon8https://askubuntu.com/questions/76081/brightness-not-working-after-installing-nvidia-driver12:02
john85so its a common problem than?12:02
hegemon8that made my day regardless briightness on nvidia12:02
BluesKajoh that bug, i gave up, and resigned myself to adjusting brightness if I bootup, thebrightness setting is saved if I suspend tho12:02
hegemon8now it even does it as should when left unused... waited 6 years.,.. nvidia... Linus said it once so won't repeat ^^12:03
john85i find that Kubuntu really drains my battery,  but that could just becasue screen is on full brightness all the time12:03
hegemon8yes, i know, it got my battery useless... funny worked on every other amd i ever installed kubu on12:04
hegemon8and its not kubuntu's issue12:04
hegemon8Blue, try from that link, i mean waited ages for that to get working12:04
hegemon8and adding that section to the file on my nvidia did the trickj12:05
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hegemon8or like when you install the ptropritary drivers, boot kubu logo go to text? found the solution same time that found to brigfhtness12:05
hegemon8and on open drivers no issues, so compng back to f*** ...antastic work nvidia... :)12:06
BluesKajmy laptop uses intel gpu and audio12:07
john85Radeon here12:08
hegemon8damn... well, have digged for my nvidia issues,,, funny same ones12:08
hegemon8ah i would still try it jiust change section to appropriate valuse...12:09
hegemon8values*12:09
john85ok, well,  i bookmarked the post and will try it later on12:11
BluesKajI just adjust the brightness manually if needed, not gonna concern myself too much about the issue12:11
john85for now though,  there are no major issues really12:11
john85not like the first time I tried linux for the first time on a laptop about 20 years ago12:12
john85and the display really sucked,  would only go as high as 16 colours12:12
john85ye  16 colours,  not 16 bit colour12:13
hegemon8BluesKaj: mine didn't work at all, just deep in nvidia app with driver not even a setting, some graph i coud drag to change it... no didn't bother12:13
hegemon8costed me baterry12:13
john85the batter totally died?12:14
hegemon8haha my first touch of keyboard plugged to linux pc was friend's debian.... damn i think debian 5?... and i recall kde then, and xmmp first had skins from winamp 2 one custom, like sun microsystems kinda gear one... loved it12:15
hegemon8and kde user since :)12:15
john85I only stuck to windows doe so long because i use programs like reason and FL studio,  so at the moment I have both windows and kubuntu installed,  windows for music production,  kubuntu for everything else12:16
hegemon8had reason for while12:17
hegemon8flstudio?12:17
hegemon8try lmms...12:17
hegemon8rip off that i started with12:17
hegemon8not a musical pro, but prog is great12:17
john85i'm not a pro either really,  just a keen amateur12:18
hegemon8so am i12:18
hegemon8so lmms i poke at times, there are fefw other cool ones12:18
hegemon8You may rly like it12:18
john85ill look into it12:19
hegemon8especially ZynAddFx plugin, tyhat lets You to use your pc keyboard as piano :)12:21
hegemon8(yes i'm that cheap^^)12:21
john85@hegemon8  looks good12:22
john85is there are command one can use to download it?  or does it have to be done the long way round?12:23
john85not even sure how to install software on kubuntu unless its using term or is listed in the software app12:24
hegemon8sudo apt install lmms12:24
hegemon8sudo apt install lmms -y12:25
john85thanks12:25
BluesKajI run Kubuntu Artful 17.10 and Debian Srtetch 9. I find my self using Debian more and more nowadays, its faster in many ways12:26
BluesKajon this old pc12:27
john85one of the first things i do after installing windows on a PC is install a firewall and AV,  I know kubuntu is less vulnerable,  but should I still install them,  is so,  can you recommend any?12:28
hegemon8that is i think if You have multiverse repositories added.... On Kubu, ... app store... okay... at least in my opinion works as most linux app stores... hahahahahahah - my comment... but there is muon (kinda kde version of known synaptic package manager)  it will come handy if need in graphical mode to find a package to install that doesn't include in appstore12:29
hegemon8last time i used on my comp RPM based distro was Aurox 12.0 so... lets say i prefer deb ones...12:30
hegemon8john85: if liking playing with multimedia, look at that, kde variant, and as far as i know, You canm add repo (place your distibution takes packages with soft from) to Your kubu to make it kinda 'upgrade to kubuntustudio   https://ubuntustudio.org/12:32
BluesKajI don't have windows so my pc doesn't make our network vulnerable , and my wife is very careful about surfing and her email on her W7 pc12:33
john85@hegemon8 thanks,  might look into that,  will give lmms a try in the meantime tho,  at first glance it looks pretty good12:35
hegemon8ppl debate on AV on linux for years now, my exp and opinion, pff, let windows keep AV... Av finds around 25% of dangerous stuff (older, that it knows exists, and has in its DB)  every hour new comes up12:35
hegemon8smarter viruses now cracked engines of AV, making them another entry gate to their code.,... irony... love it12:36
BluesKajI use my pc as a HTPC. It's connected to our TV via DVI to HDMI cable, but I have no need for ubuntu studi since I'm not recording and mixing audio tracks12:36
hegemon8and heuristic search of ' i don't know whats that, but better block'... nah, thanks, not having such a speedy laptop to give that lazy worker so much space on my hdd ram, and resourrces12:37
BluesKajubuntu studio even12:37
john85i have to go,  at work and is about time I did some....(even though I dont get paid for it)12:37
hegemon8yes, other cool is Sweep :) You can scratch with Your mouse on tracks :) and Mixxx12:37
john85thank you for your help and tips,  willl probably be back again if not today then tomorrow12:38
hegemon8if You read some, the way to make own radio : Airtime : free if you set up seever and all, if you want hosting from them, it costs some12:38
hegemon8sure thing john8512:38
john85bbye12:39
hegemon8o/ john8512:39
hegemon8BluesKaj: well guy was in some music fun, i do poke them progs to see how they work and curious, doing some 'music' for fun for me, so got him few that work on kubu without Jack seeting up orother  stuff to see12:41
BluesKajjack never worked for me, maybe i don't haev the patience to set it up , we use Reaper to record if and when the time comes pout down some tracks ...my bandmates don't understand and can't be bothered with Linux12:44
BluesKajto put down some tracks, that is :-)12:45
hegemon8well for me too but these days all i need is jack2 and qjackctl or so and for first time in history when got them it started to work12:46
hegemon8so i could try finally rosengarden, ardour12:47
hegemon8etc12:47
hegemon8but know Your pain12:47
hegemon8was like - thayt used jack?> stick this up,,,, jack socket :)12:47
hegemon8things got better and getting with plasma12:49
hegemon8i'd kill for feature before format, save settings in whole system, then restor after fresh install as kubu, kde, plasma, has few more than rest :)12:50
hegemon8or like settings xml file you could share with others, sth more than theme :)12:51
hegemon8ardour seems good for that i guess BluesKaj, but i have little exp with it, lmms does trick for me12:52
hegemon8and my humble needs12:53
hegemon8band? can You share track? like one to have a idea, what Yous play?12:53
BluesKajIdon't have anytracks here unfortunately, been meaning to bring a stick over to the garage/studio, but I keep forgetting ...a lot of them need to be remixed thoand they're scattered amongst several computers12:57
BluesKajwe play mostly classic rock and some country stuff12:58
BluesKajand blues of course :-012:58
hegemon8damn, rock...  ah, well, keep one for me once :) i'd like to hear some time :)12:59
BluesKajwe're a bunch of old guys who get together and drink beer and jam12:59
hegemon8country some, sure, blues? mmm yes please :)12:59
BluesKajwell, I'll see what i can do about finding a decent recording13:00
hegemon8please keep in mind  sometime, no pressure, but curious :)13:02
BluesKajmy setup on this pc is quite simple ..no pulseaudio , strictly alsa to intel hda, an entry level nvidia G210 gpu for graphics, mostly movies and some DD/DTS encoded audio tracks13:04
hegemon8oh remeber dell old case i had, no even alsa wanted to play, had to compile alsa from their pre200's guide on their 'modern' website (haven't been theere since, so maybe looks better) :)13:06
john85hi folks :)13:53
hegemon8hey john85 how are things so far?:)13:53
john85well,  i been busy working,  so not had a chance to try anything out yet13:54
john85will probably wait till this evening when I wont be disturbed13:55
john85pretty much all the hard work has been done for today,  but may get called away at some point13:55
hegemon8personally in kde back in days amarok kept me on linux trough rainy days, back then 1.4 series of it, but clementine tries to continue that paradime since amarok 2.0 got trough many changes, still my music player of choice... lyrics, and wiki tabs does the trick for me when i play track13:56
john85I love Amarok :D13:56
hegemon8damn wrong channel lol but yes i love it :)13:57
hegemon8john85: sure give me a shout if Your evening is similar time, after i'm going on second life (yeah, don't judge) as i have one coll way twiisted lady there i can't seem to live wothout ^^13:59
john85alas, i don't have net at home at the moment14:00
BluesKajjohn85, do you live in a rural area?14:01
john85luckily,  I live in city with loads of free wifi hot spots14:02
BluesKajok14:02
john85just cant afford it at the moment14:02
hegemon8hehe used to use local coffeeshop one when wifi WEP protected was a thing :)14:02
john85keep getting mail with offers of fibre broadband and TV,  almost every month14:02
hegemon8yup shhhh ;14:02
hegemon8;P14:02
BluesKajinternet is cheaper in UK than here in Canada14:03
hegemon8well there is still thing like fair use policy on *unlimited internet14:03
hegemon8but got hands on provider that has real no limits... happy camper :)14:03
hegemon8but ireland, not UK14:04
john85most ISP's here in UK now have unlimited,  with exception of mobile broadband14:04
hegemon8unlimited my a... check their fair use policy or if they don't slow torrents14:04
john85k14:05
BluesKajyeah I get these Fibe offers from Bell, but it's just a scam to bait and switch from my DSL provider their DSL which is more than twice the cost for a couple of more mbs14:05
hegemon8same bs they advertise here, no limits, yeah, right till You won't pull 80GB in 2 days.... :)14:05
BluesKajto thier dsl14:05
john8580GB in a day? :o14:06
john852 days rather14:06
hegemon8and phone line, some still require to pay for 'line maintenance' as isp needs to pay , customers need to cover, so nah, keep stationary phone... these days? eh, nah, not my cup of tea :)14:06
hegemon8yes, didn't say on one computer tho :)14:07
BluesKajthere is fibre optics service here, but it's very expensive and they discourage internet only contracts with that pricing, they want customers to go with  their bundle packages .14:08
john85i am so tempted by TV/BB bundles that are on offer,  but cant afford them at the moment14:10
hegemon8here theey start  a try to bring fiber everywhere for reasonable price but as they start ... still far from goal, but fibre... what server on net will let me to pull stuff with that speed?14:10
john85true14:11
hegemon8so why i pay for extra i don't use in my case?, nah...14:11
john85claiming speeds of up to 200MB/s.....ye,  UP TO!14:11
hegemon8haha yes, up to, seen that in practice when called vodafone  in name of my friends to tell them what they think about their 'service' :)14:13
john85i need to disappear again14:14
hegemon8till later then john85 :)14:14
john85nice chatting with you,  speak soon14:14
hegemon8yes, talk soon14:14
BluesKajour problem here is the vast distances that the fibre cable has to be strung with amp stns along the way to keep the signal capacties as advertized etc, so the investment is huge compared to Europe14:16
hegemon8thats the thing, they want the numbers hight to pitch them to the customers by sales team, and in practice... well14:17
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IrcsomeBot<Sav22999> Hello. My laptop turn on in 3 minutes. In it there is kubuntu. Is it normal?14:48
IrcsomeBot<Sav22999> The RAM is 8gb (6,6 from kubuntu informations). Processors: 4xAMD A8-6410 APU with AMD Radeon R5 graphics14:50
IrcsomeBot<Sav22999> Could someone help me?14:57
IrcsomeBot<Sav22999> The showting down is fast! Just the starting is very slow!14:57
chuck_hi kubuntu comunity!15:00
chuck_I'm currently running kubuntu 16.04 lts with kde plasma 5.8. Got it via backports ppa. I'm wondering when plasma 5.10 will be released to backport? Couldn't find any information regarding this :(15:02
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IrcsomeBot<Sav22999> Exacly my time is: 21sec (bootloader, I think so), 1min40sec Kubuntu screen (logo of Kubuntu that flashes), 17sec a black screenand then login screen, 40sec spalsh screen and desktop screen loaded... About 3minutes.15:18
IrcsomeBot<Sav22999> Exactly*15:28
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ubuntulaptopHi, I need help mounting my CD drive... isn't reading anything when I put it in... it'll wind up then turn off16:54
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oostI am trying to extract an iso to my /home folder with "7z x file.iso" ... but it says WARNINGS: There are data after the end of archive.17:45
oostWhat can i do?17:45
geniioost: A better way is to just loopmount the iso to a folder, then copy the contents of that folder to where you want the contents17:48
genii!loopmount17:48
genii!iso17:48
ubottuTo mount an ISO disc image, type « sudo mount -o loop <ISO-filename> <mountpoint> » - There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion - Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before !burning.17:48
geniiah, that one17:48
user|16131I have a question regarding the User Manager in Kubuntu 17.04.17:50
geniioost: Does this iso contain data on a filesystem, or does it contain music, like a CD ?17:50
IrcsomeBot<Sav22999> Hello. I've already asked before, but nobody answered. Kubuntu is very slow when he starting, the screen where there is Kubuntu logo that pulse gets al least 1'40". Could someone help me please? 😕17:50
genii@Sav22999 Use bootchart to find out where the most time is being spent during boot17:52
genii!bootchart17:52
ubottubootchart charts your machine at boot time, to install >> sudo apt-get install bootchart << the graphic is in /var/log/bootchart after the next reboot17:52
acheronukuser|16131: just ask17:53
IrcsomeBot<Sav22999> I'll try it, thank you guys17:56
oostthat does not work either; with mount loop... i only get an /Anaconda folder with (i think) a lot of files missing compared to the / checked in the live-dvd itself.18:00
oostthink i can better give up on those nice png images...18:08
IrcsomeBot<Sav22999> @ubottu> bootchart charts your machine at boot time, to install >, Konsole returns "the package "bootchart" hasn't canditate to install"18:15
genii!info bootchart18:18
ubottuPackage bootchart does not exist in zesty18:18
krytarik→ systemd-bootchart18:18
geniiHm!18:18
geniiOdd, it's in Xenial18:19
BluesKaj!bootchart218:20
genii!search bootchart zesty18:21
ubottuFound:18:21
* genii twitches18:21
BluesKajwell both are in the Artful repos18:22
geniiWeird18:22
genii!search bootchart artful18:22
ubottuFound:18:22
* genii sips his coffee and contemplates18:22
MrokiiHello. I'm on Kubuntu 17.10 and I don't get KDE Telepathy to work correctly. Specifically it doesn't seem to recognise my online accounts. When I try to start a chat, the contact-dropdown is empty and I can't change my status from "offline" to anything else. Any ideas what the problem could be?19:27
deratoulhey can anyone give us a link to #lubuntu19:27
Mrokiideratoul: what link? "/join #lubuntu" should get you there.19:29
deratoul_have tried now works but did not at first19:29
mrhubrisjequestion, how can i make a second hdd in my pc accessible for another user?19:29
deratoul_thanks a lot19:29
deratoul_:)19:30
Mrokiideratoul_: You're welcome. :)19:30
Mrokiideratoul_: Maybe you weren't connected to freenode when you tried it first.19:30
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Guest73422is it possible to get this to run with a GTX 98019:37
Guest73422having graphical issues with live installer19:38
BluesKajGuest73422, is this a hybrid graphics laptop ?19:41
Guest73422no. PC19:41
Guest73422using LTS live installer from USB19:42
Guest73422even when tipzing im getting artifacts19:42
BluesKajthe nouveau driver is default and it should run reasonably well on live media19:43
Guest73422how can i see what driver is running_19:43
BluesKajtipzing?19:43
Guest73422typing, sorry19:43
Guest73422used to german keyboard19:43
BluesKajoh ok19:44
Guest73422im running nouveau, but mzy card is listed as unknown19:46
Guest73422my card19:46
BluesKajyes that's normal19:46
Guest73422im also running win10 on this machine, want to install kubuntu beside it19:47
Guest73422cause im a gamer, i cant get rid of windows19:48
BluesKajsometimes choosing the onboard gpu instead of the pci in uefi bios before installation works well , then once the OS is installed switching the graphics back to PCI and installing the recommended driver for your nvidia gpu19:49
Guest73422how much space shall i get for kubuntu?19:50
BluesKajdepends how you want to partition your HDD19:51
Guest73422i have 2 TB, and it wants to get only 63 GB19:51
Guest73422is that enough to get it running ?19:53
BluesKajit wants ? what do you mean ? you can make it much larger if you use manual partitioning before you try to install the OS  by using a live media app called gparted19:54
BluesKaj63 GB is plenty tho19:54
IrcsomeBot<DGUERRERO> @Guest73422, I'm a gamer too, and since last year i'm running only on kubuntu, was a huge pain in the @$$ because I have a optimus nvidia card, but i have all my EA and rockstar games working atm :)19:54
Guest73422ok, then ill try to get it up and running19:54
IrcsomeBotavtrkrb was added by: avtrkrb19:55
Guest73422@DGUERRERO im playing blizzard games19:56
BluesKajnvidia doesn't make an optimus card , Optimus is a combo of nvidia and intel19:56
IrcsomeBot<DGUERRERO> @Guest73422, altought I haven't tested any of them, i see they are somewhat easy to run via wine/playonlinux … https://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?bIsQueue=false&bIsRejected=false&sClass=vendor&iId=26&sAction=view&sTitle=View+Developer19:59
Guest73422ok, ill see if i have a windows backup/stick and then ill try20:00
Guest73422thanks for your hints20:00
BluesKajDGUERRERO we're discussing installing Kubuntu here20:02
BluesKajwell, my day is done20:03
IrcsomeBot<DGUERRERO> @BluesKaj, sorry for the OT20:05
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brucesatoshall i get myself the nvidia binary driver or stay on nouveau?22:36

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