 Are you looking for that logo or the animal for 12.04?
 @DGUERRERO
 @ahoneybun, The logo with the pangolin
 I found it with a Google search
 A decent one I think
 @ahoneybun, Can you please send me the link?
[01:55] <ahoneybun> http://ubuntuportal.com/wp-content/uploads/ubuntu-12.04-precise-pangolin.png
 that is the official logo
 @ahoneybun, yes, but i'm looking for the Kubuntu version
 (Photo, 165x148) https://irc-attachments.kde.org/qkOOzVo0/file_2954.jpg this one
 I'm not even sure who made that
 that was before me in Kubuntu anyway
 it was on the official announcememt of 12.04 on the kubuntu webpage (now defunct, but i have low-res copy)
 we copied everything over so we should still have it
 @ahoneybun, I'm still thinking 12.04 isn't so old anyway hehe
 I was around ubuntu since 10.04 or so but not with Kubuntu official till 13. something
 mm that one seems to be missing the image
 @ahoneybun, yes, the image is gone, the low-res copy i have is just like this one
 found this: http://blog.davidedmundson.co.uk/blog/whats_coming_lightdm_02
 Fwd from DGUERRERO: http://www.marcocimmino.net/wp-content/uploads/12.04-lts-banner3.png
 I think it's from kdelook/ kde store
 hmmm, I'll take a look, I had no idea (always used KDM instead of lightdm)
[02:06] <ahoneybun> well we had lightdm for a little bit of time I think
 @ahoneybun, yes, but I was kind of arebel and dind't use it, hold back to KDM
 after a brief search it seems that image isn't served by lightdm, but is somewhere in kubuntu plasma/kde base for 12.04, so I guess I'll have to run a vm with 12.04 and find that sneaky image!
 bad time for being on vacations only with my phone's internet...
[02:42] <ahoneybun> I looked to see if it was in a wallpaper package or something but no luck
[06:44] <SemiNus> hi
[06:44] <SemiNus> when I open an ARW file (a RAW file from a Sony camera)  in Gwenview,  it shows me the file.
[06:45] <SemiNus> Then I want to export it,  so I save it as JPG  (using gwenview)
[06:45] <SemiNus> unfortunately, the saved JPG is much smaller than the ARW file
[06:46] <SemiNus> what am I doing wrong?
[06:48] <android> what kernel version is used for 16.04.2
[07:53] <lordievader> Good morning
[09:56] <marshawn> i am using kubuntu for almost 6 months as main os
[10:00] <android> having fun marshawn?
[11:45] <john85> hi folks :)
[11:45] <hegemon8> hey there john85
[11:45] <john85> hey :)
[11:45] <john85> hows you?
[11:46] <android> somsai
[11:46] <android> bonevulent
[11:47] <android> this is somewhat of a support group
[11:48] <android> dont make confessions except to the brethren
[11:48] <android> in CONTEXT
[11:49] <android> at the time this meant holy kingdom not something intermixed
[11:49] <android> a beat down priest surrounded by babylon
[11:49] <android> there is a time and a place for hugs
[11:50] <john85> ok,  now i'm confused,  and I know,  it doesn't take much to confuse me (before anyone else says it)
[11:51] <android> these channels are like support groups
[11:52] <android> logon and watch rabbi fiengold john85
[11:52] <android> ask me about anything comscerning rabbi fiengold
[11:53] <android> from there you can judge for yourself
[11:53] <hegemon8> john85: hey, i;'m fine, thanks, sry, busy around laptop, came here socially or i can help You with something? (not too advanced, cause not such a pro^^)
[11:53] <android> where you want to go within the support group
[11:54] <john85> well, I just installed Kubuntu 2 days ago so I'm just finding my feet at the moment...a few minor issues which im trying to resolve,  but having trouble registering on the forums
[11:54] <android> there's different conaiderations to make
[11:55] <android> john85 what's the problem?
[11:56] <android> location can be something to consider with a support group
[11:56] <john85> cant get the screen to dim,  even in the power settings
[11:56] <hegemon8> johny85, ask then or if want on PM
[11:57] <hegemon8> after fresh install it takes me 2 days to slowly set it as i love it :) so sure, ask away :)
[11:57] <hegemon8> BluesKaj: hey ther Blue ^^
[11:57] <BluesKaj> Howdy folks
[11:57] <john85> hi :)
[11:57] <BluesKaj> hi hegemon8, john85
[11:58] <hegemon8> good to see You BluesKaj (john85, he is a guy to annoy in more advanced stuff^^)
[11:59] <hegemon8> so john85, whats the issues You have?
[11:59] <hegemon8> dim... hmm
[11:59] <hegemon8> does the.... function keys work?
[11:59] <hegemon8> laptop huh?
[12:00] <john85> yes, laptop,  some of them do,  but the ones that set screen brightness and volume dont
[12:00] <hegemon8> i tried to solve that for years on my sh...iny old nvidia card....
[12:00] <john85> its strange because I tried 3 of the live versions before the full install and everything worked fine
[12:01] <john85> im not sure which kubuntu version i have tho,  I upgraded from ubuntu by downloading it,  rather than doing a clean install
[12:02] <hegemon8> https://askubuntu.com/questions/76081/brightness-not-working-after-installing-nvidia-driver
[12:02] <john85> so its a common problem than?
[12:02] <hegemon8> that made my day regardless briightness on nvidia
[12:02] <BluesKaj> oh that bug, i gave up, and resigned myself to adjusting brightness if I bootup, thebrightness setting is saved if I suspend tho
[12:03] <hegemon8> now it even does it as should when left unused... waited 6 years.,.. nvidia... Linus said it once so won't repeat ^^
[12:03] <john85> i find that Kubuntu really drains my battery,  but that could just becasue screen is on full brightness all the time
[12:04] <hegemon8> yes, i know, it got my battery useless... funny worked on every other amd i ever installed kubu on
[12:04] <hegemon8> and its not kubuntu's issue
[12:04] <hegemon8> Blue, try from that link, i mean waited ages for that to get working
[12:05] <hegemon8> and adding that section to the file on my nvidia did the trickj
[12:05] <hegemon8> or like when you install the ptropritary drivers, boot kubu logo go to text? found the solution same time that found to brigfhtness
[12:06] <hegemon8> and on open drivers no issues, so compng back to f*** ...antastic work nvidia... :)
[12:07] <BluesKaj> my laptop uses intel gpu and audio
[12:08] <john85> Radeon here
[12:08] <hegemon8> damn... well, have digged for my nvidia issues,,, funny same ones
[12:09] <hegemon8> ah i would still try it jiust change section to appropriate valuse...
[12:09] <hegemon8> values*
[12:11] <john85> ok, well,  i bookmarked the post and will try it later on
[12:11] <BluesKaj> I just adjust the brightness manually if needed, not gonna concern myself too much about the issue
[12:11] <john85> for now though,  there are no major issues really
[12:12] <john85> not like the first time I tried linux for the first time on a laptop about 20 years ago
[12:12] <john85> and the display really sucked,  would only go as high as 16 colours
[12:13] <john85> ye  16 colours,  not 16 bit colour
[12:13] <hegemon8> BluesKaj: mine didn't work at all, just deep in nvidia app with driver not even a setting, some graph i coud drag to change it... no didn't bother
[12:13] <hegemon8> costed me baterry
[12:14] <john85> the batter totally died?
[12:15] <hegemon8> haha my first touch of keyboard plugged to linux pc was friend's debian.... damn i think debian 5?... and i recall kde then, and xmmp first had skins from winamp 2 one custom, like sun microsystems kinda gear one... loved it
[12:15] <hegemon8> and kde user since :)
[12:16] <john85> I only stuck to windows doe so long because i use programs like reason and FL studio,  so at the moment I have both windows and kubuntu installed,  windows for music production,  kubuntu for everything else
[12:17] <hegemon8> had reason for while
[12:17] <hegemon8> flstudio?
[12:17] <hegemon8> try lmms...
[12:17] <hegemon8> rip off that i started with
[12:17] <hegemon8> not a musical pro, but prog is great
[12:18] <john85> i'm not a pro either really,  just a keen amateur
[12:18] <hegemon8> so am i
[12:18] <hegemon8> so lmms i poke at times, there are fefw other cool ones
[12:18] <hegemon8> You may rly like it
[12:19] <john85> ill look into it
[12:21] <hegemon8> especially ZynAddFx plugin, tyhat lets You to use your pc keyboard as piano :)
[12:21] <hegemon8> (yes i'm that cheap^^)
[12:22] <john85> @hegemon8  looks good
[12:23] <john85> is there are command one can use to download it?  or does it have to be done the long way round?
[12:24] <john85> not even sure how to install software on kubuntu unless its using term or is listed in the software app
[12:24] <hegemon8> sudo apt install lmms
[12:25] <hegemon8> sudo apt install lmms -y
[12:25] <john85> thanks
[12:26] <BluesKaj> I run Kubuntu Artful 17.10 and Debian Srtetch 9. I find my self using Debian more and more nowadays, its faster in many ways
[12:27] <BluesKaj> on this old pc
[12:28] <john85> one of the first things i do after installing windows on a PC is install a firewall and AV,  I know kubuntu is less vulnerable,  but should I still install them,  is so,  can you recommend any?
[12:29] <hegemon8> that is i think if You have multiverse repositories added.... On Kubu, ... app store... okay... at least in my opinion works as most linux app stores... hahahahahahah - my comment... but there is muon (kinda kde version of known synaptic package manager)  it will come handy if need in graphical mode to find a package to install that doesn't include in appstore
[12:30] <hegemon8> last time i used on my comp RPM based distro was Aurox 12.0 so... lets say i prefer deb ones...
[12:32] <hegemon8> john85: if liking playing with multimedia, look at that, kde variant, and as far as i know, You canm add repo (place your distibution takes packages with soft from) to Your kubu to make it kinda 'upgrade to kubuntustudio   https://ubuntustudio.org/
[12:33] <BluesKaj> I don't have windows so my pc doesn't make our network vulnerable , and my wife is very careful about surfing and her email on her W7 pc
[12:35] <john85> @hegemon8 thanks,  might look into that,  will give lmms a try in the meantime tho,  at first glance it looks pretty good
[12:35] <hegemon8> ppl debate on AV on linux for years now, my exp and opinion, pff, let windows keep AV... Av finds around 25% of dangerous stuff (older, that it knows exists, and has in its DB)  every hour new comes up
[12:36] <hegemon8> smarter viruses now cracked engines of AV, making them another entry gate to their code.,... irony... love it
[12:36] <BluesKaj> I use my pc as a HTPC. It's connected to our TV via DVI to HDMI cable, but I have no need for ubuntu studi since I'm not recording and mixing audio tracks
[12:37] <hegemon8> and heuristic search of ' i don't know whats that, but better block'... nah, thanks, not having such a speedy laptop to give that lazy worker so much space on my hdd ram, and resourrces
[12:37] <BluesKaj> ubuntu studio even
[12:37] <john85> i have to go,  at work and is about time I did some....(even though I dont get paid for it)
[12:37] <hegemon8> yes, other cool is Sweep :) You can scratch with Your mouse on tracks :) and Mixxx
[12:38] <john85> thank you for your help and tips,  willl probably be back again if not today then tomorrow
[12:38] <hegemon8> if You read some, the way to make own radio : Airtime : free if you set up seever and all, if you want hosting from them, it costs some
[12:38] <hegemon8> sure thing john85
[12:39] <john85> bbye
[12:39] <hegemon8> o/ john85
[12:41] <hegemon8> BluesKaj: well guy was in some music fun, i do poke them progs to see how they work and curious, doing some 'music' for fun for me, so got him few that work on kubu without Jack seeting up orother  stuff to see
[12:44] <BluesKaj> jack never worked for me, maybe i don't haev the patience to set it up , we use Reaper to record if and when the time comes pout down some tracks ...my bandmates don't understand and can't be bothered with Linux
[12:45] <BluesKaj> to put down some tracks, that is :-)
[12:46] <hegemon8> well for me too but these days all i need is jack2 and qjackctl or so and for first time in history when got them it started to work
[12:47] <hegemon8> so i could try finally rosengarden, ardour
[12:47] <hegemon8> etc
[12:47] <hegemon8> but know Your pain
[12:47] <hegemon8> was like - thayt used jack?> stick this up,,,, jack socket :)
[12:49] <hegemon8> things got better and getting with plasma
[12:50] <hegemon8> i'd kill for feature before format, save settings in whole system, then restor after fresh install as kubu, kde, plasma, has few more than rest :)
[12:51] <hegemon8> or like settings xml file you could share with others, sth more than theme :)
[12:52] <hegemon8> ardour seems good for that i guess BluesKaj, but i have little exp with it, lmms does trick for me
[12:53] <hegemon8> and my humble needs
[12:53] <hegemon8> band? can You share track? like one to have a idea, what Yous play?
[12:57] <BluesKaj> Idon't have anytracks here unfortunately, been meaning to bring a stick over to the garage/studio, but I keep forgetting ...a lot of them need to be remixed thoand they're scattered amongst several computers
[12:58] <BluesKaj> we play mostly classic rock and some country stuff
[12:58] <BluesKaj> and blues of course :-0
[12:59] <hegemon8> damn, rock...  ah, well, keep one for me once :) i'd like to hear some time :)
[12:59] <BluesKaj> we're a bunch of old guys who get together and drink beer and jam
[12:59] <hegemon8> country some, sure, blues? mmm yes please :)
[13:00] <BluesKaj> well, I'll see what i can do about finding a decent recording
[13:02] <hegemon8> please keep in mind  sometime, no pressure, but curious :)
[13:04] <BluesKaj> my setup on this pc is quite simple ..no pulseaudio , strictly alsa to intel hda, an entry level nvidia G210 gpu for graphics, mostly movies and some DD/DTS encoded audio tracks
[13:06] <hegemon8> oh remeber dell old case i had, no even alsa wanted to play, had to compile alsa from their pre200's guide on their 'modern' website (haven't been theere since, so maybe looks better) :)
[13:53] <john85> hi folks :)
[13:53] <hegemon8> hey john85 how are things so far?:)
[13:54] <john85> well,  i been busy working,  so not had a chance to try anything out yet
[13:55] <john85> will probably wait till this evening when I wont be disturbed
[13:55] <john85> pretty much all the hard work has been done for today,  but may get called away at some point
[13:56] <hegemon8> personally in kde back in days amarok kept me on linux trough rainy days, back then 1.4 series of it, but clementine tries to continue that paradime since amarok 2.0 got trough many changes, still my music player of choice... lyrics, and wiki tabs does the trick for me when i play track
[13:56] <john85> I love Amarok :D
[13:57] <hegemon8> damn wrong channel lol but yes i love it :)
[13:59] <hegemon8> john85: sure give me a shout if Your evening is similar time, after i'm going on second life (yeah, don't judge) as i have one coll way twiisted lady there i can't seem to live wothout ^^
[14:00] <john85> alas, i don't have net at home at the moment
[14:01] <BluesKaj> john85, do you live in a rural area?
[14:02] <john85> luckily,  I live in city with loads of free wifi hot spots
[14:02] <BluesKaj> ok
[14:02] <john85> just cant afford it at the moment
[14:02] <hegemon8> hehe used to use local coffeeshop one when wifi WEP protected was a thing :)
[14:02] <john85> keep getting mail with offers of fibre broadband and TV,  almost every month
[14:02] <hegemon8> yup shhhh ;
[14:02] <hegemon8> ;P
[14:03] <BluesKaj> internet is cheaper in UK than here in Canada
[14:03] <hegemon8> well there is still thing like fair use policy on *unlimited internet
[14:03] <hegemon8> but got hands on provider that has real no limits... happy camper :)
[14:04] <hegemon8> but ireland, not UK
[14:04] <john85> most ISP's here in UK now have unlimited,  with exception of mobile broadband
[14:04] <hegemon8> unlimited my a... check their fair use policy or if they don't slow torrents
[14:05] <john85> k
[14:05] <BluesKaj> yeah I get these Fibe offers from Bell, but it's just a scam to bait and switch from my DSL provider their DSL which is more than twice the cost for a couple of more mbs
[14:05] <hegemon8> same bs they advertise here, no limits, yeah, right till You won't pull 80GB in 2 days.... :)
[14:05] <BluesKaj> to thier dsl
[14:06] <john85> 80GB in a day? :o
[14:06] <john85> 2 days rather
[14:06] <hegemon8> and phone line, some still require to pay for 'line maintenance' as isp needs to pay , customers need to cover, so nah, keep stationary phone... these days? eh, nah, not my cup of tea :)
[14:07] <hegemon8> yes, didn't say on one computer tho :)
[14:08] <BluesKaj> there is fibre optics service here, but it's very expensive and they discourage internet only contracts with that pricing, they want customers to go with  their bundle packages .
[14:10] <john85> i am so tempted by TV/BB bundles that are on offer,  but cant afford them at the moment
[14:10] <hegemon8> here theey start  a try to bring fiber everywhere for reasonable price but as they start ... still far from goal, but fibre... what server on net will let me to pull stuff with that speed?
[14:11] <john85> true
[14:11] <hegemon8> so why i pay for extra i don't use in my case?, nah...
[14:11] <john85> claiming speeds of up to 200MB/s.....ye,  UP TO!
[14:13] <hegemon8> haha yes, up to, seen that in practice when called vodafone  in name of my friends to tell them what they think about their 'service' :)
[14:14] <john85> i need to disappear again
[14:14] <hegemon8> till later then john85 :)
[14:14] <john85> nice chatting with you,  speak soon
[14:14] <hegemon8> yes, talk soon
[14:16] <BluesKaj> our problem here is the vast distances that the fibre cable has to be strung with amp stns along the way to keep the signal capacties as advertized etc, so the investment is huge compared to Europe
[14:17] <hegemon8> thats the thing, they want the numbers hight to pitch them to the customers by sales team, and in practice... well
 Hello. My laptop turn on in 3 minutes. In it there is kubuntu. Is it normal?
 The RAM is 8gb (6,6 from kubuntu informations). Processors: 4xAMD A8-6410 APU with AMD Radeon R5 graphics
 Could someone help me?
 The showting down is fast! Just the starting is very slow!
[15:00] <chuck_> hi kubuntu comunity!
[15:02] <chuck_> I'm currently running kubuntu 16.04 lts with kde plasma 5.8. Got it via backports ppa. I'm wondering when plasma 5.10 will be released to backport? Couldn't find any information regarding this :(
 Exacly my time is: 21sec (bootloader, I think so), 1min40sec Kubuntu screen (logo of Kubuntu that flashes), 17sec a black screenand then login screen, 40sec spalsh screen and desktop screen loaded... About 3minutes.
 Exactly*
[16:54] <ubuntulaptop> Hi, I need help mounting my CD drive... isn't reading anything when I put it in... it'll wind up then turn off
[17:45] <oost> I am trying to extract an iso to my /home folder with "7z x file.iso" ... but it says WARNINGS: There are data after the end of archive.
[17:45] <oost> What can i do?
[17:48] <genii> oost: A better way is to just loopmount the iso to a folder, then copy the contents of that folder to where you want the contents
[17:48] <genii> !loopmount
[17:48] <genii> !iso
[17:48] <genii> ah, that one
[17:50] <user|16131> I have a question regarding the User Manager in Kubuntu 17.04.
[17:50] <genii> oost: Does this iso contain data on a filesystem, or does it contain music, like a CD ?
 Hello. I've already asked before, but nobody answered. Kubuntu is very slow when he starting, the screen where there is Kubuntu logo that pulse gets al least 1'40". Could someone help me please? 😕
[17:52] <genii> @Sav22999 Use bootchart to find out where the most time is being spent during boot
[17:52] <genii> !bootchart
[17:53] <acheronuk> user|16131: just ask
 I'll try it, thank you guys
[18:00] <oost> that does not work either; with mount loop... i only get an /Anaconda folder with (i think) a lot of files missing compared to the / checked in the live-dvd itself.
[18:08] <oost> think i can better give up on those nice png images...
 @ubottu> bootchart charts your machine at boot time, to install >, Konsole returns "the package "bootchart" hasn't canditate to install"
[18:18] <genii> !info bootchart
[18:18] <krytarik> → systemd-bootchart
[18:18] <genii> Hm!
[18:19] <genii> Odd, it's in Xenial
[18:20] <BluesKaj> !bootchart2
[18:21] <genii> !search bootchart zesty
[18:21]  * genii twitches
[18:22] <BluesKaj> well both are in the Artful repos
[18:22] <genii> Weird
[18:22] <genii> !search bootchart artful
[18:22]  * genii sips his coffee and contemplates
[19:27] <Mrokii> Hello. I'm on Kubuntu 17.10 and I don't get KDE Telepathy to work correctly. Specifically it doesn't seem to recognise my online accounts. When I try to start a chat, the contact-dropdown is empty and I can't change my status from "offline" to anything else. Any ideas what the problem could be?
[19:27] <deratoul> hey can anyone give us a link to #lubuntu
[19:29] <Mrokii> deratoul: what link? "/join #lubuntu" should get you there.
[19:29] <deratoul_> have tried now works but did not at first
[19:29] <mrhubrisje> question, how can i make a second hdd in my pc accessible for another user?
[19:29] <deratoul_> thanks a lot
[19:30] <deratoul_> :)
[19:30] <Mrokii> deratoul_: You're welcome. :)
[19:30] <Mrokii> deratoul_: Maybe you weren't connected to freenode when you tried it first.
[19:37] <Guest73422> is it possible to get this to run with a GTX 980
[19:38] <Guest73422> having graphical issues with live installer
[19:41] <BluesKaj> Guest73422, is this a hybrid graphics laptop ?
[19:41] <Guest73422> no. PC
[19:42] <Guest73422> using LTS live installer from USB
[19:42] <Guest73422> even when tipzing im getting artifacts
[19:43] <BluesKaj> the nouveau driver is default and it should run reasonably well on live media
[19:43] <Guest73422> how can i see what driver is running_
[19:43] <BluesKaj> tipzing?
[19:43] <Guest73422> typing, sorry
[19:43] <Guest73422> used to german keyboard
[19:44] <BluesKaj> oh ok
[19:46] <Guest73422> im running nouveau, but mzy card is listed as unknown
[19:46] <Guest73422> my card
[19:46] <BluesKaj> yes that's normal
[19:47] <Guest73422> im also running win10 on this machine, want to install kubuntu beside it
[19:48] <Guest73422> cause im a gamer, i cant get rid of windows
[19:49] <BluesKaj> sometimes choosing the onboard gpu instead of the pci in uefi bios before installation works well , then once the OS is installed switching the graphics back to PCI and installing the recommended driver for your nvidia gpu
[19:50] <Guest73422> how much space shall i get for kubuntu?
[19:51] <BluesKaj> depends how you want to partition your HDD
[19:51] <Guest73422> i have 2 TB, and it wants to get only 63 GB
[19:53] <Guest73422> is that enough to get it running ?
[19:54] <BluesKaj> it wants ? what do you mean ? you can make it much larger if you use manual partitioning before you try to install the OS  by using a live media app called gparted
[19:54] <BluesKaj> 63 GB is plenty tho
 @Guest73422, I'm a gamer too, and since last year i'm running only on kubuntu, was a huge pain in the @$$ because I have a optimus nvidia card, but i have all my EA and rockstar games working atm :)
[19:54] <Guest73422> ok, then ill try to get it up and running
[19:56] <Guest73422> @DGUERRERO im playing blizzard games
[19:56] <BluesKaj> nvidia doesn't make an optimus card , Optimus is a combo of nvidia and intel
 @Guest73422, altought I haven't tested any of them, i see they are somewhat easy to run via wine/playonlinux … https://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?bIsQueue=false&bIsRejected=false&sClass=vendor&iId=26&sAction=view&sTitle=View+Developer
[20:00] <Guest73422> ok, ill see if i have a windows backup/stick and then ill try
[20:00] <Guest73422> thanks for your hints
[20:02] <BluesKaj> DGUERRERO we're discussing installing Kubuntu here
[20:03] <BluesKaj> well, my day is done
 @BluesKaj, sorry for the OT
[22:36] <brucesato> shall i get myself the nvidia binary driver or stay on nouveau?