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cmaloneymorning13:16
cmaloneyhow's the morning so far?13:17
jrwrenpainful.13:17
jrwrenGood morning13:17
cmaloney?13:17
cmaloneyWhat happened?13:17
jrwrenknee13:17
jrwrenthe scrape was the easy part. something inside is much worse.13:17
jrwrenI need to see a doctor.13:17
cmaloneyoh no13:18
_stink_this channel is cursed13:25
cmaloneystahp13:28
cmaloneyI'ts not cursed13:29
cmaloneyplease13:29
cmaloneydon't be cursed13:29
rick_hjrwren: you want me to see if my wife would check you out?13:29
cmaloneyjust don't get bikes involved13:29
jrwrenrick_h: No, but huge thanks for the offer. That is kind.13:39
jrwrenrick_h: I'm buying me some COBRA and I'll go to my regular doctor.13:39
jrwrenI seem to have full in some really weird loophole or crack with this lack of coverage.13:39
cmaloneyYou should be able to qualify for ACA, but not sure when the renewal period is13:44
jrwrenI applied. It never starts until start of next month.13:44
jrwrenHence the crack.13:44
cmaloneyoh that sucks. :(13:45
jrwrenyup.13:45
jrwrenalso, a great reason to stay on COBRA is that it is the same plan and so things like amt toward annual cap is kept. on a new ACA plan that would reset and so meeting a deductable, for example, would be harder.13:46
jrwrensince I only need it for a bit until new plan starts, it really makes sense to stay on cobra because any new plan will not have any contrib to deductable met13:46
jrwrenor... if I find a very low deductable plan, at which point the COBRA is actually cheaper.13:47
jrwrenwhew, shit is complex.13:47
jrwrenI miss my early 20s when I had no dependants and i was very healthy and didn't have to worry about this stuff.13:47
cmaloneyYeah, I can completely relate13:48
jrwrenyeah, i vaguely recall you going through some COBRA hell last year.13:54
cmaloneymine was more they wanted most of my nonexistant wealth for COBRA13:58
cmaloneyCOBRA is when you realize that there's a real cost to employers to keep employees insured14:00
jrwrenpretty much, yes.14:02
greg-ganyone else here download all their email from gmail? Have you ran into the gmail anti-warez throttling? There's no known work-around, right?18:15
greg-gthis is for my work account, personal account on Gandi is fast and no rate limiting :)18:15
rick_hgreg-g: no, just used offlineimap to do this in the past and yea I've hit throttling and needed to let it go for a long long time18:16
rick_hgreg-g: ddos waiting to happen? :)18:16
* greg-g nods18:16
greg-ghe, true, but at least not my servers :)18:16
greg-gheh*18:16
rick_hbut that's why I've always seeded offlineimap with a recent-ish copy of the mailbox so it helps cut it down a lot18:16
rick_hgreg-g: must be cloud (someone else's computer) :P18:17
* rick_h loves that saying more than others re: cloud for some reason18:17
greg-gyeah... it pains me to share but... my email backups (just rsync'd maildirs) is in a bad state. I need to do some dedupe/merge etc first18:17
greg-gI mean, I have it all, just, in 3 different directories from different points in time18:17
* greg-g hangs head18:17
* rick_h cant' look away from the news...such a train wreck 19:04
greg-gBSA+Trump thing or other?19:21
rick_hthe other, haven't seen what the BSA thing is19:25
rick_hyou mean today gets better?19:25
* rick_h reads the BSA stuff and just sinks lower in his chair19:30
greg-ghttps://twitter.com/McJesse/status/88966051037910220919:35
greg-g:)19:35
cmaloneyWhat the hell else happened?19:42
greg-gaccording to google news: trump throwing Sessions under the bus even more, the vote on AHCA will move forward soon19:45
cmaloneyAwesome19:46
cmaloneyCan we impeach him now?19:46
cmaloneyOr are the Republicans scared of the mess they've made of things yet19:46
greg-goption 219:47
cmaloney*sigh*19:49
greg-gthe GOP has it's sights set on power for perpetuity, and this is just a wrinkle in that plan which is otherwise going exceedingly well19:56
greg-gI'm not exaggerating any of that19:57
cmaloneyI know19:59
cmaloneyGerrymandering / stcking the courts19:59
cmaloneyit's all part of this plan19:59
jrwrenwell, doc says knee will heal.  yay!20:02
cmaloneyjrwren: What did you do to it?20:02
jrwrenthat bike fall. its wasn't the outside scrapes that hurt teh most.20:03
jrwreni was afraid I tore a ligament or something20:03
cmaloneyRight, I mean what did the doctor say you did to it20:03
rick_hjrwren: yay!20:04
jrwrenlol, I htink he used some highly technical words like.20:04
jrwren"you probably just tweaked it."20:04
rick_hlol20:04
rick_hjrwren: he push on the side of the knee and pull it forward to test it out?20:04
cmaloneyFor how much $$ you're paying them they better damn well have some Latin in there20:05
cmaloneyTweaked ain't gonna cut it.20:05
cmaloney"You've pushed the bulshittius maximusal  gluttenal rectum"20:05
rick_hheh, lot cheaper than the MRI time, and the surgeon consult, and the ...20:05
cmaloneyRight, but I want some performance for that $$20:06
cmaloney"tweaked" is what I can say in the bathroom mirror20:06
jrwrenrick_h: exactly20:06
cmaloneyAt least hit minimum soap-opera-levels20:07
cmaloney"Mrs. Wren, your son will be fine. He just over-extended his jointal-knee-thingus"20:07
jrwrenlol.20:07
cmaloney"Oh thank you Doctor!"20:07
rick_hI got a letter today "After careful review, AIM on behalf of BCBS has approved the request for an MRI made on your behalf"20:07
rick_hoh nice, thanks for that review that I needed that...20:08
jrwreni don't care what he says. all I heard was, "the four ligaments seem fine, you aren't gonna need surgery"20:08
cmaloneyricricI love insurance20:08
rick_hjrwren: ding ding ding, gotta love it20:08
jrwrenfucking MRI in USA is the worst.20:08
cmaloneyLike the time I had my kidney stone and the doctor came by and said "Hello, I'm Dr. Fussbudget and I'm the doctor that admitted you"20:08
jrwrenUSA needs flat rate MRI like in JP.  in JP, an MRI costs $150. that is it.20:08
cmaloneyNo, asshole, I'm the one who admitted me.20:08
jrwrenso it is no big deal for doctors to order them.20:08
cmaloneyno joke20:09
rick_hhmm, there's only a couple and it does take 30min+ so I don't know that $150 makes sense20:09
rick_hbut seems like it'd be nice to not make it so much more crazy than x-ray20:09
cmaloneyWEll, it's Japan, so they've likely miniaturized it so it fits in the doctor's pants pocket20:09
cmaloneyporta-MRI20:09
cmaloneyWalkMRI20:09
jrwrenit was also probably 15yrs ago that I heard this radio interview about health care and the JP MRI bit, but still... :)20:10
rick_hlol20:10
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Scary_GuyMoved from Mint to Debian Testing, liking it so far.  Basically have it set up almost the exact same way21:37
_stink_cmaloney++, WalkMRI21:44
cmaloney;)21:44
gamerchick02hey, what do you do if you know you're right for a job but not feeling it at the moment? i moved to a new group and i'm not feeling as confident in my ability anymore. ugh22:21
_stink_rest assured it's normal?22:29
Scary_Guyimposter syndrome?22:29
greg-git gets us all22:29
gamerchick02imposter syndrome like whoa22:30
gamerchick02like, i know i can do this and everyone is telling me i can do this but i'm not feeling it at all.22:31
Scary_Guyjust do what you've been doing and keep telling yourself it's normal22:31
gamerchick02i guess it's hitting me with the level of responsibility i have now that i've gotten my company cell phone22:31
gamerchick02who'd think an iphone would make me break?22:31
Scary_Guyif all else fails r/actlikeyoubelong (but you actually belong so I'm not sure how that works)22:32
gamerchick02:) thanks22:32
Scary_Guyit'd make me break, the phone22:32
gamerchick02fake it til you make it, right?22:32
Scary_Guykeep calm and carry on22:32
gamerchick02well, i had a choice between android and iphone but i'm a stickler for my phone (android) and with the iphone i'll care less because it's apple. i dunno22:33
gamerchick02care less as in not be upset that i can't have the apps i want22:33
Scary_Guyyeah, work phone shouldn't be used for fun anyway, just calls22:33
_stink_'not feeling it' as in not interested in the work yet?22:33
_stink_or really just imposter syndrome22:34
gamerchick02no i'm interested in the work, i just feel overwhelmed right now re my responsibilities and level. like i feel like i'm not ready even though i *AM* ready because i was killing it in my last job (literally being able to look at a problem and solve it without even any thought).22:35
_stink_it's tough to go from kicking ass easily to being behind22:35
gamerchick02"oh you just do this and this and this, and look at this and this, and BOOM, fixed"22:35
_stink_but i think everyone knows what that's like22:35
_stink_around you, i mean22:35
gamerchick02yeah.22:35
Scary_Guykeep in mind the added pay increase means added work too22:36
gamerchick02most of my group has been around awhile and they know EVERYTHING so i'm sitting here like a dork not knowing what i'm doing.22:36
gamerchick02yeah i know22:36
Scary_Guyif all else fails, any manuals you can read?  also don't be afraid to ask about things you don't know22:37
gamerchick02yeah i'm good at asking questions, but i don't feel like anything is sinking in right now. ugh i just feel useless today.22:38
gamerchick02luckily i'm home, so that helps22:38
gamerchick02i just don't like being a beginner. and i don't feel like i'm actually earning my pay even though i'm doing things i'm asked to do and i put in all my hours.22:39
gamerchick02i was going to go grocery shopping tonight but i didn't feel like it. i have food, i just don't want to deal with procuring anything fresh right now. maybe i'm all full up on decisions right now.22:40
gamerchick02i should be happy for this job. i know there are others that don't have it as lucky.22:40
Scary_Guyour brains can be dicks, that's really all it is22:41
Scary_Guyyou'll come around.  if not you could try counseling too.22:42
gamerchick02haha so true!22:42
gamerchick02half my brain is telling me "you got dis" and the other half is going "why the hell did you even TRY to go for this position? you're effing stupid for thinking you could even DO such a job. you're useless and a failure"22:43
Scary_Guyself doubt is a bitch, that's why.  we're afraid of failure even though it's one of the greatest tools ever22:44
gamerchick02yeah. i guess if i mess something up, i can just fix it right? nothing i do is life or death22:45
gamerchick02i'm not, like, a doctor or something22:45
Scary_Guyexcept driving maybe22:45
gamerchick02i'd break in that job22:45
gamerchick02well true. but driving is automatic for me (wasn't for the longest time) and i've got a handle on it.22:45
gamerchick02i meant for my job. nothing i do for that is life or death.22:46
Scary_GuyI think that's a part of the problem though.  a lot of the poeple are just on autopilot22:46
Scary_GuyI'd trust a Tesla with autopilot more than some people on the road22:46
gamerchick02true22:47
gamerchick02i felt like this my second week too. maybe by a couple months in i'll feel more comfortable with everything, but right now all i want to do is call in tomorrow and hide under the blankets on my bed.22:51
Scary_Guyyou have any knick-knacks to take in?  helps make it feel like home22:52
gamerchick02yeah i moved from one place at FCA to another22:53
gamerchick02i have all my stuff22:53
Scary_Guy##diulive is live in 10 minutes, if anyone likes industrial music22:54
gamerchick02cool. industrial isn't my vibe, but i know lots of other people like it22:55
gamerchick02thanks, everyone. i feel a little bit better. i'll go in tomorrow and tackle what i have to do (even though i have 2 meetings in the morning) and muddle through as best i can.23:03
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* Scary_Guy gives a thumbs up23:07
gamerchick02:)23:10
jrwrengamerchick02: happy belated bday23:10
gamerchick02oh thank you!23:11
gamerchick02i had a good one, even though i had to work.23:11
gamerchick02well... it wasn't "good" it was passable. i had a boatload of tech issues, but i soldiered on.23:11
gamerchick02the weekend was great though. saw my fav folk singer in Flint23:11
jrwrenawesome!23:14
jrwrenlocal singer or someone I might know?23:14
gamerchick02he's from Chicago: Mark Dvorak23:15
gamerchick02markdvorak.com23:15
gamerchick02i love his music and i like him as a person23:15
gamerchick02he's just so freaking cool23:16
jrwrencool.23:23
jrwreni've never heard of him, but cool.23:23
Scary_GuyI like his last name23:28
Scary_Guyanybody ever mess with audtty?23:29

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