[13:16] <cmaloney> morning
[13:17] <cmaloney> how's the morning so far?
[13:17] <jrwren> painful.
[13:17] <jrwren> Good morning
[13:17] <cmaloney> ?
[13:17] <cmaloney> What happened?
[13:17] <jrwren> knee
[13:17] <jrwren> the scrape was the easy part. something inside is much worse.
[13:17] <jrwren> I need to see a doctor.
[13:18] <cmaloney> oh no
[13:25] <_stink_> this channel is cursed
[13:28] <cmaloney> stahp
[13:29] <cmaloney> I'ts not cursed
[13:29] <cmaloney> please
[13:29] <cmaloney> don't be cursed
[13:29] <rick_h> jrwren: you want me to see if my wife would check you out?
[13:29] <cmaloney> just don't get bikes involved
[13:39] <jrwren> rick_h: No, but huge thanks for the offer. That is kind.
[13:39] <jrwren> rick_h: I'm buying me some COBRA and I'll go to my regular doctor.
[13:39] <jrwren> I seem to have full in some really weird loophole or crack with this lack of coverage.
[13:44] <cmaloney> You should be able to qualify for ACA, but not sure when the renewal period is
[13:44] <jrwren> I applied. It never starts until start of next month.
[13:44] <jrwren> Hence the crack.
[13:45] <cmaloney> oh that sucks. :(
[13:45] <jrwren> yup.
[13:46] <jrwren> also, a great reason to stay on COBRA is that it is the same plan and so things like amt toward annual cap is kept. on a new ACA plan that would reset and so meeting a deductable, for example, would be harder.
[13:46] <jrwren> since I only need it for a bit until new plan starts, it really makes sense to stay on cobra because any new plan will not have any contrib to deductable met
[13:47] <jrwren> or... if I find a very low deductable plan, at which point the COBRA is actually cheaper.
[13:47] <jrwren> whew, shit is complex.
[13:47] <jrwren> I miss my early 20s when I had no dependants and i was very healthy and didn't have to worry about this stuff.
[13:48] <cmaloney> Yeah, I can completely relate
[13:54] <jrwren> yeah, i vaguely recall you going through some COBRA hell last year.
[13:58] <cmaloney> mine was more they wanted most of my nonexistant wealth for COBRA
[14:00] <cmaloney> COBRA is when you realize that there's a real cost to employers to keep employees insured
[14:02] <jrwren> pretty much, yes.
[18:15] <greg-g> anyone else here download all their email from gmail? Have you ran into the gmail anti-warez throttling? There's no known work-around, right?
[18:15] <greg-g> this is for my work account, personal account on Gandi is fast and no rate limiting :)
[18:16] <rick_h> greg-g: no, just used offlineimap to do this in the past and yea I've hit throttling and needed to let it go for a long long time
[18:16] <rick_h> greg-g: ddos waiting to happen? :)
[18:16]  * greg-g nods
[18:16] <greg-g> he, true, but at least not my servers :)
[18:16] <greg-g> heh*
[18:16] <rick_h> but that's why I've always seeded offlineimap with a recent-ish copy of the mailbox so it helps cut it down a lot
[18:17] <rick_h> greg-g: must be cloud (someone else's computer) :P
[18:17]  * rick_h loves that saying more than others re: cloud for some reason
[18:17] <greg-g> yeah... it pains me to share but... my email backups (just rsync'd maildirs) is in a bad state. I need to do some dedupe/merge etc first
[18:17] <greg-g> I mean, I have it all, just, in 3 different directories from different points in time
[18:17]  * greg-g hangs head
[19:04]  * rick_h cant' look away from the news...such a train wreck 
[19:21] <greg-g> BSA+Trump thing or other?
[19:25] <rick_h> the other, haven't seen what the BSA thing is
[19:25] <rick_h> you mean today gets better?
[19:30]  * rick_h reads the BSA stuff and just sinks lower in his chair
[19:35] <greg-g> https://twitter.com/McJesse/status/889660510379102209
[19:35] <greg-g> :)
[19:42] <cmaloney> What the hell else happened?
[19:45] <greg-g> according to google news: trump throwing Sessions under the bus even more, the vote on AHCA will move forward soon
[19:46] <cmaloney> Awesome
[19:46] <cmaloney> Can we impeach him now?
[19:46] <cmaloney> Or are the Republicans scared of the mess they've made of things yet
[19:47] <greg-g> option 2
[19:49] <cmaloney> *sigh*
[19:56] <greg-g> the GOP has it's sights set on power for perpetuity, and this is just a wrinkle in that plan which is otherwise going exceedingly well
[19:57] <greg-g> I'm not exaggerating any of that
[19:59] <cmaloney> I know
[19:59] <cmaloney> Gerrymandering / stcking the courts
[19:59] <cmaloney> it's all part of this plan
[20:02] <jrwren> well, doc says knee will heal.  yay!
[20:02] <cmaloney> jrwren: What did you do to it?
[20:03] <jrwren> that bike fall. its wasn't the outside scrapes that hurt teh most.
[20:03] <jrwren> i was afraid I tore a ligament or something
[20:03] <cmaloney> Right, I mean what did the doctor say you did to it
[20:04] <rick_h> jrwren: yay!
[20:04] <jrwren> lol, I htink he used some highly technical words like.
[20:04] <jrwren> "you probably just tweaked it."
[20:04] <rick_h> lol
[20:04] <rick_h> jrwren: he push on the side of the knee and pull it forward to test it out?
[20:05] <cmaloney> For how much $$ you're paying them they better damn well have some Latin in there
[20:05] <cmaloney> Tweaked ain't gonna cut it.
[20:05] <cmaloney> "You've pushed the bulshittius maximusal  gluttenal rectum"
[20:05] <rick_h> heh, lot cheaper than the MRI time, and the surgeon consult, and the ...
[20:06] <cmaloney> Right, but I want some performance for that $$
[20:06] <cmaloney> "tweaked" is what I can say in the bathroom mirror
[20:06] <jrwren> rick_h: exactly
[20:07] <cmaloney> At least hit minimum soap-opera-levels
[20:07] <cmaloney> "Mrs. Wren, your son will be fine. He just over-extended his jointal-knee-thingus"
[20:07] <jrwren> lol.
[20:07] <cmaloney> "Oh thank you Doctor!"
[20:07] <rick_h> I got a letter today "After careful review, AIM on behalf of BCBS has approved the request for an MRI made on your behalf"
[20:08] <rick_h> oh nice, thanks for that review that I needed that...
[20:08] <jrwren> i don't care what he says. all I heard was, "the four ligaments seem fine, you aren't gonna need surgery"
[20:08] <cmaloney> ricricI love insurance
[20:08] <rick_h> jrwren: ding ding ding, gotta love it
[20:08] <jrwren> fucking MRI in USA is the worst.
[20:08] <cmaloney> Like the time I had my kidney stone and the doctor came by and said "Hello, I'm Dr. Fussbudget and I'm the doctor that admitted you"
[20:08] <jrwren> USA needs flat rate MRI like in JP.  in JP, an MRI costs $150. that is it.
[20:08] <cmaloney> No, asshole, I'm the one who admitted me.
[20:08] <jrwren> so it is no big deal for doctors to order them.
[20:09] <cmaloney> no joke
[20:09] <rick_h> hmm, there's only a couple and it does take 30min+ so I don't know that $150 makes sense
[20:09] <rick_h> but seems like it'd be nice to not make it so much more crazy than x-ray
[20:09] <cmaloney> WEll, it's Japan, so they've likely miniaturized it so it fits in the doctor's pants pocket
[20:09] <cmaloney> porta-MRI
[20:09] <cmaloney> WalkMRI
[20:10] <jrwren> it was also probably 15yrs ago that I heard this radio interview about health care and the JP MRI bit, but still... :)
[20:10] <rick_h> lol
[21:37] <Scary_Guy> Moved from Mint to Debian Testing, liking it so far.  Basically have it set up almost the exact same way
[21:44] <_stink_> cmaloney++, WalkMRI
[21:44] <cmaloney> ;)
[22:21] <gamerchick02> hey, what do you do if you know you're right for a job but not feeling it at the moment? i moved to a new group and i'm not feeling as confident in my ability anymore. ugh
[22:29] <_stink_> rest assured it's normal?
[22:29] <Scary_Guy> imposter syndrome?
[22:29] <greg-g> it gets us all
[22:30] <gamerchick02> imposter syndrome like whoa
[22:31] <gamerchick02> like, i know i can do this and everyone is telling me i can do this but i'm not feeling it at all.
[22:31] <Scary_Guy> just do what you've been doing and keep telling yourself it's normal
[22:31] <gamerchick02> i guess it's hitting me with the level of responsibility i have now that i've gotten my company cell phone
[22:31] <gamerchick02> who'd think an iphone would make me break?
[22:32] <Scary_Guy> if all else fails r/actlikeyoubelong (but you actually belong so I'm not sure how that works)
[22:32] <gamerchick02> :) thanks
[22:32] <Scary_Guy> it'd make me break, the phone
[22:32] <gamerchick02> fake it til you make it, right?
[22:32] <Scary_Guy> keep calm and carry on
[22:33] <gamerchick02> well, i had a choice between android and iphone but i'm a stickler for my phone (android) and with the iphone i'll care less because it's apple. i dunno
[22:33] <gamerchick02> care less as in not be upset that i can't have the apps i want
[22:33] <Scary_Guy> yeah, work phone shouldn't be used for fun anyway, just calls
[22:33] <_stink_> 'not feeling it' as in not interested in the work yet?
[22:34] <_stink_> or really just imposter syndrome
[22:35] <gamerchick02> no i'm interested in the work, i just feel overwhelmed right now re my responsibilities and level. like i feel like i'm not ready even though i *AM* ready because i was killing it in my last job (literally being able to look at a problem and solve it without even any thought).
[22:35] <_stink_> it's tough to go from kicking ass easily to being behind
[22:35] <gamerchick02> "oh you just do this and this and this, and look at this and this, and BOOM, fixed"
[22:35] <_stink_> but i think everyone knows what that's like
[22:35] <_stink_> around you, i mean
[22:35] <gamerchick02> yeah.
[22:36] <Scary_Guy> keep in mind the added pay increase means added work too
[22:36] <gamerchick02> most of my group has been around awhile and they know EVERYTHING so i'm sitting here like a dork not knowing what i'm doing.
[22:36] <gamerchick02> yeah i know
[22:37] <Scary_Guy> if all else fails, any manuals you can read?  also don't be afraid to ask about things you don't know
[22:38] <gamerchick02> yeah i'm good at asking questions, but i don't feel like anything is sinking in right now. ugh i just feel useless today.
[22:38] <gamerchick02> luckily i'm home, so that helps
[22:39] <gamerchick02> i just don't like being a beginner. and i don't feel like i'm actually earning my pay even though i'm doing things i'm asked to do and i put in all my hours.
[22:40] <gamerchick02> i was going to go grocery shopping tonight but i didn't feel like it. i have food, i just don't want to deal with procuring anything fresh right now. maybe i'm all full up on decisions right now.
[22:40] <gamerchick02> i should be happy for this job. i know there are others that don't have it as lucky.
[22:41] <Scary_Guy> our brains can be dicks, that's really all it is
[22:42] <Scary_Guy> you'll come around.  if not you could try counseling too.
[22:42] <gamerchick02> haha so true!
[22:43] <gamerchick02> half my brain is telling me "you got dis" and the other half is going "why the hell did you even TRY to go for this position? you're effing stupid for thinking you could even DO such a job. you're useless and a failure"
[22:44] <Scary_Guy> self doubt is a bitch, that's why.  we're afraid of failure even though it's one of the greatest tools ever
[22:45] <gamerchick02> yeah. i guess if i mess something up, i can just fix it right? nothing i do is life or death
[22:45] <gamerchick02> i'm not, like, a doctor or something
[22:45] <Scary_Guy> except driving maybe
[22:45] <gamerchick02> i'd break in that job
[22:45] <gamerchick02> well true. but driving is automatic for me (wasn't for the longest time) and i've got a handle on it.
[22:46] <gamerchick02> i meant for my job. nothing i do for that is life or death.
[22:46] <Scary_Guy> I think that's a part of the problem though.  a lot of the poeple are just on autopilot
[22:46] <Scary_Guy> I'd trust a Tesla with autopilot more than some people on the road
[22:47] <gamerchick02> true
[22:51] <gamerchick02> i felt like this my second week too. maybe by a couple months in i'll feel more comfortable with everything, but right now all i want to do is call in tomorrow and hide under the blankets on my bed.
[22:52] <Scary_Guy> you have any knick-knacks to take in?  helps make it feel like home
[22:53] <gamerchick02> yeah i moved from one place at FCA to another
[22:53] <gamerchick02> i have all my stuff
[22:54] <Scary_Guy> ##diulive is live in 10 minutes, if anyone likes industrial music
[22:55] <gamerchick02> cool. industrial isn't my vibe, but i know lots of other people like it
[23:03] <gamerchick02> thanks, everyone. i feel a little bit better. i'll go in tomorrow and tackle what i have to do (even though i have 2 meetings in the morning) and muddle through as best i can.
[23:07]  * Scary_Guy gives a thumbs up
[23:10] <gamerchick02> :)
[23:10] <jrwren> gamerchick02: happy belated bday
[23:11] <gamerchick02> oh thank you!
[23:11] <gamerchick02> i had a good one, even though i had to work.
[23:11] <gamerchick02> well... it wasn't "good" it was passable. i had a boatload of tech issues, but i soldiered on.
[23:11] <gamerchick02> the weekend was great though. saw my fav folk singer in Flint
[23:14] <jrwren> awesome!
[23:14] <jrwren> local singer or someone I might know?
[23:15] <gamerchick02> he's from Chicago: Mark Dvorak
[23:15] <gamerchick02> markdvorak.com
[23:15] <gamerchick02> i love his music and i like him as a person
[23:16] <gamerchick02> he's just so freaking cool
[23:23] <jrwren> cool.
[23:23] <jrwren> i've never heard of him, but cool.
[23:28] <Scary_Guy> I like his last name
[23:29] <Scary_Guy> anybody ever mess with audtty?