[00:24] <bluesabre> Unit193: yes, that does look like a lot of changes :\
[00:25] <Unit193> Additions are fine, but that removes/renames a lot...
[00:25] <Unit193> Also I screwed up injecting into svn. :3
[00:27] <Unit193> Oh!  xfconf pushed to extras to fix things, cc flocculant.
[00:28] <bluesabre> nice :D
[00:28] <bluesabre> I should probably do some updates and reboot
[01:29] -SwissBot:#xubuntu-devel- ::xfce4-announce:: ANNOUNCE: exo 0.11.5 released @ http://xfce.10915.n7.nabble.com/ANNOUNCE-exo-0-11-5-released-tp49585.html (by Sean Davis-6)
[01:31] <Unit193> We don't even have .4 yet. :3
[03:25] <Unit193> ...We need to loosen up depends here, just trying to remove greybird ends up losing xubuntu-default-settings.
[06:10] <flocculant> Unit193: ack
[06:48] <Unit193> flocculant: What theme do you use?
[06:48] <flocculant> Unit193: I don't muck about - just use greybird 
[06:50] <Unit193> I thought you said gtk-theme-config worked?  Shouldn't work there.
[06:50] <flocculant> I think I said it worked for me ... 
[06:50] <Unit193> And it shouldn't with Greybird.
[06:51] <flocculant> *shrug*
[06:59] <flocculant> https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2017/07/08/%23xubuntu-devel.html
[07:03] <Unit193> Ah, panel == gtk2.
[07:15] <flocculant> Unit193: panel is 4.13.0git-1ca5c78b
[07:16] <Unit193> ...OK,confused now.
[07:16] <Unit193> I'm not even going to pretend to know GTK.
[07:17] <flocculant> panel's not been updated at all for ages 
[07:17] <flocculant> I'll rebuild it later if I remember
[07:19] <flocculant> more when I remember how to build it so it uses external plugins :p
[11:23] <flocculant> well would but stupid garcon issues and some mismatch with available versions
[11:24] <flocculant> libgarcon-1-0-dev : Depends: libgarcon-1-0 (= 0.4.0-2) but 0.6.1-0ppa1+gtk3~17.10 is to be installed
[11:29] <Unit193> Likely related to Debian #868626.
[11:29] <flocculant> aah yes - I do remember you linking that the other day
[11:37] <Unit193> bluesabre: Didja fix xfdashy? :D
[11:38] <bluesabre> Unit193: haven't fixed a thing :D
[11:38] <Unit193> :D
[11:38]  * Unit193 knew it.
[20:33] <bluesabre> Need an opinion... do we keep the Ubuntu font and logo for the super key, or switch to Noto and use ⌘ (or some other character), https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-mate-settings/+bug/1703116
[20:38] <flocculant> I have no opinion on that 
[20:46] <Unit193> I was leaving that to you.
[20:49] <krytarik> lol
[21:48] <bluesabre> :D
[21:48] <bluesabre> thanks guys ;)
[21:49] <bluesabre> ochosi, knome: somewhat artworky anyways, thoughts on above?
[21:52] <Unit193> "Nah, we don't need any overrides" better?
[22:20] <bluesabre> :D
[22:36] <bluesabre> Before and after https://i.imgur.com/7eK2gXm.png
[22:37] <Unit193> Yep, going with "Do we really need an override?" :D
[22:38] <bluesabre> Oh, that's not without the overrides
[22:38] <bluesabre> thats Ubuntu > Noto Sans
[22:39] <Unit193> Ah, wondered if it inherited something for the Ubuntu logo.
[22:43] <bluesabre> Waiting for my vm to finally let go of the dpkg lock so I can install dconf-editor
[22:43] <Unit193> apt-get download dconf-editor && sudo dpkg -x dconf-editor.deb /  :---D
[22:44] <Unit193> (Don't do that.)
[22:51] <bluesabre> Does update-manager automatically install security updates?
[22:55] <bluesabre> oh
[22:55] <bluesabre> dconf-editor lets you erase keys
[22:55] <bluesabre> which breaks apps that depend on them
[22:55] <bluesabre> very nice
[23:02] <bluesabre> yay!
[23:03] <bluesabre> Unit193: no overrrides, https://i.imgur.com/VtAabXb.png
[23:04] <bluesabre> and that's unpinned, floating, etc
[23:11] <Unit193> Hah, OK.
[23:11] <Unit193> You win.
[23:12] <bluesabre> :D
[23:12] <bluesabre> That's a pretty awful default for any app :|
[23:51] -SwissBot:#xubuntu-devel- ::xubuntu-default-settings:: [trunk] r635 Include Onboard overrides (LP: #1703116) (by Sean Davis)