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lubot5 | <tsimonq2> @Sanjay, Welcome! | 03:59 |
lubot5 | <Sanjay> @tsimonq2, Thank you!!! | 04:00 |
lubot5 | <Schyken> @tsimonq2, Getting that smexy LxQt on right now :P | 04:20 |
lubot5 | <tsimonq2> :P | 04:20 |
lubot5 | <Schyken> I've actually been stalking the LxQt GitHub, thinking I can start my dev journey there :3 | 04:21 |
lubot5 | <tsimonq2> s/LxQt/LXQt/ (it was renamed) | 04:22 |
lubot5 | And yeah, that would be wonderful! :D | 04:22 |
lubot5 | <Schyken> Ah, I'm so used to the up/low/up/low case spelling | 04:22 |
lubot5 | <Schyken> SoMeTiMeS iT's JuSt FoR tHe BeSt | 04:23 |
lubot5 | <Schyken> :P | 04:23 |
lubot5 | <tsimonq2> lol | 04:23 |
lubot5 | <Schyken> Jeez, it took me so fricking long to type that | 04:24 |
lubot5 | <Schyken> I might have carpal tunnel now | 04:24 |
lubot5 | <tsimonq2> lol | 04:24 |
lubot5 | <Schyken> I need some form of tie-in that auto cases my typing whenever I wanna be eDgY | 04:25 |
wxl | it's called a plugin for your irc client | 04:25 |
lubot5 | <Schyken> I don't IRC :P | 04:26 |
lubot5 | <tsimonq2> Oh HAI wxl! | 04:26 |
wxl | might be able to make the bot do it | 04:26 |
tsimonq2 | wxl: Ok, while you're here | 04:26 |
wxl | hey | 04:26 |
lubot5 | <Schyken> Lol, @tsimonq2 Imma commandeer your bot 😆 | 04:26 |
tsimonq2 | wxl: The move to dhcpcd made Lubuntu's networking (both on Lubuntu Next and stock Lubuntu) just flat out not work on laptops | 04:27 |
wxl | uh | 04:27 |
wxl | why? | 04:27 |
lubot5 | <Schyken> Well that's not great :3 | 04:27 |
tsimonq2 | wxl: Because ifupdown etc. isn't set up with it from what I can tell in convos with cyphe r mox. | 04:27 |
tsimonq2 | wxl: Basically we have two options: | 04:28 |
tsimonq2 | 1. Ship Alpha 2 tomorrow with a notice. | 04:28 |
tsimonq2 | 2. Swap out the packages in the seed and respin the images. This'll fix the problem. | 04:28 |
tsimonq2 | wxl: I pinged Julien but I don't know what to do. You're also a Lubuntu RM, what should we do? :) | 04:29 |
wxl | dang | 04:29 |
wxl | that's a real bummer | 04:29 |
wxl | it's terrible we didn't notice this before | 04:29 |
wxl | but i'm sure it took real hardware | 04:29 |
wxl | sigh | 04:29 |
tsimonq2 | And it's also a real bummer that it took us THIS freaking long to notice it | 04:29 |
lubot5 | <Schyken> I'm going to go stare at GitHub and figure out wtf this stuff means :D *nicholas cage face intensifies* | 04:29 |
tsimonq2 | Yeah it took real hardware | 04:30 |
wxl | my vote is #2 | 04:30 |
wxl | wait | 04:30 |
tsimonq2 | Yes? :) | 04:30 |
wxl | is there a known fix? | 04:30 |
tsimonq2 | Nope. | 04:30 |
wxl | rather, workaround? | 04:30 |
wxl | well then a notice ain't going to do it. | 04:30 |
tsimonq2 | wxl: Not at all. I wated TWO HOURS trying to find one. | 04:30 |
tsimonq2 | *wasted | 04:30 |
wxl | definitely #2 | 04:31 |
tsimonq2 | Ok. | 04:31 |
tsimonq2 | wxl: Do you have commit access to the seed or do I need to prepare an MP for Julien to review? :) | 04:31 |
lubot5 | <Schyken> Oh, all of this stuff is on Launchpad, isn't it? | 04:31 |
lubot5 | <tsimonq2> @Schyken, yep | 04:31 |
lubot5 | <Schyken> ffs, I've been staring at the manual | 04:31 |
wxl | i don't think i have access to the seed | 04:32 |
tsimonq2 | wxl: Ok, I'll prepare an MP before I go to sleep | 04:32 |
tsimonq2 | wxl: I wish there was a nice alternative in Bazaar for git revert :/ | 04:32 |
wxl | yeah | 04:32 |
wxl | we need to get everything under git! | 04:33 |
wxl | i'm surprised everything everywhere hasn't switched yet | 04:33 |
tsimonq2 | wxl: Honestly that's actually possible, I've poked around in the code | 04:33 |
tsimonq2 | WELL | 04:33 |
tsimonq2 | Technically Canonical STILL maintains Bazaar | 04:33 |
wxl | they also maintain LP and it's been adding more and more git support | 04:34 |
wxl | in fact, that's the one major thing it HAS added recently | 04:34 |
tsimonq2 | wxl: But I had to poke into the code for something unrelated and it's pretty damn simple. | 04:34 |
tsimonq2 | Now the question is, is Lubuntu going to be the flavor that starts the Bazaar boycotting? :P | 04:34 |
wxl | why not? | 04:35 |
tsimonq2 | wxl: Because right now I COULD totally write that PR and convert the Bazaar repo to a Git one, then pester Julien to upload it to the Launchpad Git space for ~kubuntu-dev :P | 04:35 |
tsimonq2 | s/kubuntu/lubuntu/ | 04:35 |
wxl | yep | 04:36 |
wxl | maybe let's reach out to other flavor leads, ubuntu-devel, etc. and see what thoughts are on that matter | 04:36 |
tsimonq2 | wxl: Well the question is, is there a good reason for actually doing it besides the fact that Bazaar sucks donkey balls? | 04:36 |
wxl | well git provides many more features | 04:37 |
wxl | it's also far more common | 04:37 |
wxl | which should help newer developers | 04:37 |
tsimonq2 | For sure | 04:37 |
wxl | plus it will help BRAND new developers figure out how to push upstream changes | 04:37 |
tsimonq2 | For sure | 04:38 |
tsimonq2 | wxl: Have you followed the work the Ubuntu Server Team has been doing to import all their packaging into Git? | 04:38 |
lubot5 | <Schyken> @wxl, This interests me :3 | 04:38 |
tsimonq2 | That's a thing | 04:38 |
wxl | no | 04:38 |
wxl | that's great | 04:38 |
tsimonq2 | The goal is to make driveby contributions super easy | 04:38 |
wxl | we should ask them what their experiences/challenges are | 04:38 |
wxl | yes! | 04:38 |
tsimonq2 | And in general make everything easy | 04:38 |
tsimonq2 | wxl: So I'll ponder it and when I'm ready I'll give you another ping with my plan | 04:40 |
wxl | ok | 04:40 |
tsimonq2 | In the meantime, I'll prepare my MP in a bit | 04:40 |
wxl | might have wulfie track down the boss | 04:40 |
lubot5 | <tsimonq2> @VikingRedwolf WOLF! | 04:40 |
lubot5 | <tsimonq2> @VikingRedwolf see above | 04:40 |
tsimonq2 | wxl: there ;) | 04:40 |
wxl | heh | 04:40 |
wxl | you have testers available to double check the respins? | 04:41 |
tsimonq2 | Erm, not off hand | 04:41 |
tsimonq2 | wxl: But I've been promoting the Telegram group everywhere | 04:41 |
wxl | might be good to round some up and have them at the ready | 04:41 |
wxl | i've noticed XD | 04:41 |
tsimonq2 | We have 27 people now in this Telegram group! | 04:41 |
wxl | that's good | 04:41 |
lubot5 | <Schyken> Testars? | 04:41 |
wxl | i hope it encourages some more participation | 04:41 |
tsimonq2 | So we should have some people who would be able to test | 04:41 |
lubot5 | <Schyken> *testers? | 04:41 |
wxl | sounds like Schyken is ready XD | 04:42 |
lubot5 | <Schyken> Need someone to run it on a lappy? | 04:42 |
lubot5 | <Schyken> I'm always ready :3 | 04:42 |
tsimonq2 | wxl: Otherwise when I sent my call for testing I also included the lubuntu-users list and we got more testers than usual from the regulars on the lubuntu-users list | 04:42 |
tsimonq2 | So I might do that in the future | 04:42 |
lubot5 | <tsimonq2> @Schyken, Yay! | 04:42 |
wxl | cool | 04:42 |
tsimonq2 | But yeah, I need to take a shower | 04:43 |
wxl | good luck with that | 04:43 |
lubot5 | <Schyken> Steamy | 04:43 |
tsimonq2 | Have a good night wxl, I know you have a bedtime :P | 04:43 |
wxl | yep unlike some people XD | 04:43 |
tsimonq2 | tru XD | 04:43 |
tsimonq2 | bai o/ | 04:43 |
lubot5 | <Schyken> @tsimonq2 moist or damp? | 04:43 |
lubot5 | <tsimonq2> (Voice, 1s) http://vps.tsimonq2.net:9090//5172402223782559753.oga | 04:44 |
lubot5 | <tsimonq2> (Voice, 1s) http://vps.tsimonq2.net:9090//5172402223782559754.oga | 04:44 |
lubot5 | <Schyken> 😆 hahahahah | 04:44 |
wxl | i | 04:44 |
lubot5 | <tsimonq2> j | 04:46 |
lubot5 | <tsimonq2> I'll be up in 6-7 hours and when I get up, I'll submit that MP and get the ball rolling on testing. Night everyone! | 05:48 |
lubot5 | <Schyken> Woot woot! Farewell | 05:49 |
lubot5 | <julienlavergne> @tsimonq2, Last time I checked you needed to manually start dhcpcd daemon to make it work | 06:05 |
lubot5 | <julienlavergne> I can revert the change tonight if it's necessary, it is sill early on the release process | 06:06 |
lubot5 | <julienlavergne> Ah... We are already Thursday :-/ | 06:09 |
lubot5 | <Schyken> @julienlavergne, I'm still Wednesday! There's still time! 😆 :P | 06:10 |
lubot5 | <tsimonq2> @julienlavergne, It still didn't work when I did it. | 06:11 |
lubot5 | <tsimonq2> @julienlavergne, Please do, we can test more after the release. | 06:11 |
lubot5 | <tsimonq2> @julienlavergne, It's no big deal, the two people publishing it for all of the flavors are in US ;) | 06:11 |
lubot5 | <Schyken> @tsimonq2, Isn't it past your bedtime :3 | 06:12 |
lubot5 | <tsimonq2> @Schyken, Noooo :P | 06:12 |
lubot5 | <Schyken> @tsimonq2, HUEHUEHUE Allow me to snark | 06:12 |
lubot5 | <julienlavergne> @tsimonq2, OK but tonight is in 10 h for me :-/ | 06:22 |
lubot5 | <julienlavergne> We can keep dhcpcd on the LXQt ISO, less critical and it will be easier to fix it | 06:24 |
lubot5 | <tsimonq2> @julienlavergne, 10 hours is 1 PM my time, you'll be fine if you do it then. :) | 06:24 |
lubot5 | <tsimonq2> @julienlavergne, That works for me. | 06:24 |
lubot5 | <tsimonq2> It'll also give us something to test. | 06:25 |
lubot5 | lbssousa was added by: lbssousa | 12:05 |
flexiondotorg | tsimonq2 Do you have an ETA for the Aplha 2 release? | 15:11 |
flexiondotorg | Who is pulling the leavers at let loose the isos? | 15:11 |
tsimonq2 | flexiondotorg: I think slangasek is. Regardless, we're all in the US... | 15:50 |
tsimonq2 | flexiondotorg: I'm thinking anywhere between 2-7 PM Central Time, depending on a couple things. | 15:51 |
lubot5 | <julienlavergne> Just arrive home to see to change merged :-) | 17:00 |
lubot5 | <tsimonq2> Yep :) | 17:00 |
lubot5 | <tsimonq2> (Document) http://vps.tsimonq2.net:9090//1-80.debdiff | 17:00 |
lubot5 | <tsimonq2> @tsimonq2, @julienlavergne I haven't been able to find a sponsor, if you could upload for me, that would be great. :) | 17:00 |
lubot5 | <tsimonq2> @julienlavergne Also while you're here, this needs looking at: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lubuntu-meta/+bug/1633913 | 17:00 |
lubot5 | <tsimonq2> nvm https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lubuntu-meta/0.80 | 17:12 |
lubot5 | <julienlavergne> @tsimonq2, Is Ubuntu Studio fixed ? Because I didn't touch this part of the seed, and there is a fix in cdimage for them, but not for us : http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-cdimage/ubuntu-cdimage/mainline/revision/1665 | 17:18 |
lubot5 | <tsimonq2> @julienlavergne, Oh, what? O_o | 17:18 |
lubot5 | <julienlavergne> Obviously, we want pool/ on the image ... | 17:18 |
lubot5 | <tsimonq2> For sure, I agree | 17:19 |
lubot5 | <julienlavergne> @tsimonq2, See the title of the bug report | 17:19 |
lubot5 | <tsimonq2> @julienlavergne, I'm aware, I just didn't know it was fixed for Ubuntu Studio :) | 17:19 |
lubot5 | <tsimonq2> Anyways, I'll dig into that code right now and get an MP. I'll poke someone on IRC and when it gets approved, I'll rebuild the images for Alpha 2. | 17:20 |
lubot5 | <tsimonq2> That way, fix two bugs with one rebuild, as they say. ;) | 17:20 |
lubot5 | <tsimonq2> @julienlavergne This is interesting... | 17:24 |
lubot5 | <tsimonq2> ``` elif mode == "ship-live": | 17:24 |
lubot5 | if project == "kubuntu-active": | 17:25 |
lubot5 | yield "ship-active-live" | 17:25 |
lubot5 | else: | 17:25 |
lubot5 | if series >= "dapper": | 17:25 |
lubot5 | yield "ship-live"``` | 17:25 |
lubot5 | <tsimonq2> So for some reason, Lubuntu live images aren't being picked up by that mode. | 17:25 |
lubot5 | <tsimonq2> @julienlavergne Oh wait, this is *our* problem | 17:30 |
lubot5 | <tsimonq2> @julienlavergne Look at Ubuntu Studio's ship-live: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntustudio-dev/ubuntu-seeds/ubuntustudio.artful/view/head:/ship-live | 17:31 |
lubot5 | <tsimonq2> @julienlavergne Now look at ours: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~lubuntu-dev/ubuntu-seeds/lubuntu.artful/view/head:/ship-live | 17:31 |
lubot5 | <tsimonq2> @julienlavergne I wonder if the tooling knows to pick up ship-live-share and then the respective ship-{gtk,qt} | 17:32 |
lubot5 | <julienlavergne> Ah, probably not :-/ | 17:36 |
lubot5 | <tsimonq2> I'm patching the tooling right now. | 17:36 |
lubot5 | <tsimonq2> I'll have an MP for you in less than 30 mins | 17:36 |
lubot5 | <tsimonq2> @julienlavergne https://code.launchpad.net/~tsimonq2/ubuntu-cdimage/different-ship-live-names-lubuntu/+merge/328182 | 17:54 |
lubot5 | <tsimonq2> Alright, that's landed, the images are building now. | 18:14 |
lubot5 | <tsimonq2> Hopefully this can be fixed. | 18:14 |
lubot5 | <Schyken> @tsimonq2, You are one with the force, the force is with you | 18:27 |
lubot5 | <Schyken> (Photo, 523x712) http://i.imgur.com/P7AA6NN.jpg I've got the page on auto-refresh every five seconds 😆 | 18:32 |
lubot5 | <tsimonq2> @Schyken, I'll yell your way once they're ready. :P | 18:33 |
lubot5 | <Schyken> @tsimonq2, Can you tell I like being impatient? 😆 | 18:33 |
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lubot5 | <tsimonq2> @Schyken Go go go! | 18:34 |
lubot5 | <Schyken> @tsimonq2, +1 for the server being slow :P | 18:35 |
lubot5 | <Schyken> It's not been indexed yet | 18:36 |
lubot5 | <Schyken> I cri | 18:36 |
lubot5 | <Schyken> THERE WE GO | 18:37 |
lubot5 | <Schyken> I was getting saucy for a moment | 18:38 |
lubot5 | <Schyken> Tfw you accidentally save the file into your torrents folder and create a torrent :S | 18:40 |
lubot5 | <julienlavergne> @tsimonq2, Great ! Thanks :-) | 18:45 |
lubot5 | <tsimonq2> @julienlavergne, You're welcome, now let's see if it worked. ;) | 18:45 |
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lubot5 | <Schyken> WOOT WOOT | 19:12 |
lubot5 | <tsimonq2> @Schyken Hey, so do you have access to the ISO QA Tracker? | 19:19 |
lubot5 | <Schyken> @tsimonq2, I don't know tbh | 19:19 |
lubot5 | <tsimonq2> @Schyken, Do you have a Launchpad acct? | 19:19 |
lubot5 | <Schyken> @tsimonq2, I do :D | 19:19 |
lubot5 | <tsimonq2> Go here, log in: http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/379/builds | 19:19 |
lubot5 | <Schyken> OOH! This is cool | 19:20 |
lubot5 | <tsimonq2> @Schyken Go to a specific test case, submit an In Progress result, and run through the test case. When that's done, change your result to pass/fail. | 19:20 |
lubot5 | <tsimonq2> @Schyken Once all the mandatory tests are done, I mark as ready. | 19:20 |
lubot5 | <Schyken> Fantastic :D I'll get to it :) | 19:21 |
tsimonq2 | I am proud to report that No Network installs now work fine with Lubuntu Artful Aardvark Alpha 2! | 20:31 |
lubot5 | GabrielSC was removed by: GabrielSC | 20:32 |
lubot5 | <tsimonq2> @GabrielSC, bai | 20:32 |
lubot5 | <Schyken> Wait @tsimonq2 there's no networking at all? | 20:41 |
tsimonq2 | We fixed that. | 20:41 |
lubot5 | <Schyken> Are you sure? | 20:41 |
tsimonq2 | It's just that you can now install Lubuntu with no network access. | 20:41 |
tsimonq2 | Yes, in the desktop images. The Alternate images are respinning now. | 20:42 |
lubot5 | <Schyken> I'm booted into live right now and I cant even connect to a network | 20:42 |
lubot5 | <Schyken> Maybe I'm doing something wrong | 20:42 |
tsimonq2 | @Schyken Make sure you have the latest image. | 20:42 |
lubot5 | <Schyken> @tsimonq2, I do, rebooting just to double check everything | 20:43 |
lubot5 | <tsimonq2> Ok :P | 20:43 |
lubot5 | <Schyken> Hmm | 20:45 |
lubot5 | <Schyken> Still no networking | 20:47 |
lubot5 | <tsimonq2> Weird | 20:47 |
lubot5 | <tsimonq2> idk | 20:47 |
lubot5 | <Schyken> I'll try it on another machine and see if I get the same problem | 20:47 |
tsimonq2 | Ok.' | 20:48 |
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lubot5 | <tsimonq2> Because it connects fine for me :/ | 20:48 |
wxl | if you're testing with real hardware and especially if it's wifi your issue may be the card (read: broadcom sucks) | 20:49 |
lubot5 | <Schyken> @wxl, Ah, that may be the case. | 20:49 |
wxl | it can be a royal pain in the yin yang to get it going in the installer, too | 20:50 |
wxl | i'd just plug in your ethernet cable and make sure that works | 20:50 |
lubot5 | <Schyken> @wxl, That's what I'm trying. Ah, don't have Ethernet ports, but I should be able to route it via USB | 20:50 |
wxl | that will most likely help | 20:51 |
wxl | i've seen a rare case where a USB adapter doesn't work | 20:51 |
wxl | but it's very rare | 20:51 |
tsimonq2 | fuuuuuuuuuuuu- | 20:54 |
tsimonq2 | bug 1706445 | 20:54 |
ubot93 | Bug 1706445 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "Ubiquity in Lubuntuoffers no choice of disks in auto-resize" [Undecided, Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1706445 | 20:54 |
tsimonq2 | I can reproduce it | 20:54 |
tsimonq2 | It still works, just doesn't show a slider | 20:54 |
tsimonq2 | It's a bug for sure | 20:54 |
tsimonq2 | Just not a really urgent one. | 20:54 |
wxl | but ONLY for lubuntu? | 20:54 |
tsimonq2 | I don't know that. | 20:54 |
wxl | yeah needs more investigation | 20:55 |
wxl | it's alpha, make a note, move on | 20:55 |
tsimonq2 | Alright, yeah, that was my plan./ | 20:55 |
lubot5 | <Schyken> Networking doesn't seem to be working at all for me within the installer, but I'll install and see if I have any luck afterwards | 20:55 |
wxl | @Schyken do you know how to investigate that further? look at logs, ping, ifconfig, etc? cuz that might be something good to look into | 20:56 |
lubot5 | <Schyken> @wxl, Yeah, I was just about to copy the logs over to a USB rn. Still need to get iwconfig | 20:57 |
lubot5 | <Schyken> Hm, that's strange | 21:05 |
lubot5 | <Schyken> lubuntu-next@lubuntu-next:~$ iwconfig | 21:05 |
lubot5 | lo no wireless extensions. | 21:05 |
lubot5 | wlp1s0 IEEE 802.11 ESSID:off/any | 21:05 |
lubot5 | Mode:Managed Access Point: Not-Associated Tx-Power=0 dBm | 21:05 |
lubot5 | Retry short limit:7 RTS thr:off Fragment thr:off | 21:05 |
lubot5 | Power Management:on | 21:05 |
tsimonq2 | Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh, yeah Lubuntu Next networking is borked | 21:06 |
tsimonq2 | That's expected | 21:06 |
tsimonq2 | I thought you were talking about stock Lubuntu! | 21:06 |
lubot5 | <Schyken> Ah, sorry, I wasn't very specific, was I :P | 21:06 |
lubot5 | <Schyken> Haha, well, I'll work on Lubuntu for now ;) | 21:07 |
lubot5 | <tsimonq2> @Schyken Try Lubuntu Alternate i386 images? | 21:11 |
lubot5 | <tsimonq2> @Schyken Or maybe just Desktop i386? | 21:11 |
lubot5 | <Schyken> Is that an invitation? :P | 21:12 |
lubot5 | <tsimonq2> @Schyken, Yes. | 21:14 |
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tsimonq2 | 1 down, 5 to go | 21:30 |
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