[09:49] <graingert> Yo, anyone know the release time of alpha 2?
[11:03] <flocculant> graingert: could be any time
[11:03] <flocculant> if they get tested enough
[11:08] <graingert> Midnight Zulu -1?
[11:10] <flocculant> not that it much matters - it'll be out of date tomorrow :p
[11:10] <flocculant> I guess you know not everyone is doing alpha's
[16:52] <tsimonq2> graingert: Within the next 2-6 hours.
[16:53] <tsimonq2> flocculant: This Alpha helped us figure out some major issues we were having with the ISO, it gives reasons for people to test. I still think they're a good idea, but you can certainly choose not to participate in them. ;)
[17:01] <flocculant> tsimonq2: nope - don't agree
[17:01] <tsimonq2> flocculant: That's your choice. :)
[17:01] <flocculant> why didn't you find the issue before ?
[17:01] <flocculant> why only check 4 times during a cycle? 
[17:01] <flocculant> :)
[17:02] <tsimonq2> flocculant: If there's no milestones and deadlines, when are we going to attract testers to want to help us out and actually find these issues?
[17:02] <tsimonq2> Not many people test the dailies in Lubuntu. LOTS of people test the milestones.
[17:02] <tsimonq2> Well, not LOTS
[17:02] <tsimonq2> But enough to get all the tests done
[17:19] <flocculant> tsimonq2: I will remember that the next time someone is asking for help in here :D
[17:20]  * flocculant screenshots the channel :p
[17:20] <tsimonq2> flocculant: sure :P
[17:21] <flocculant> tsimonq2: once a week (ish) me or Dave make sure our iso at least boots and installs - then we update https://dev.xubuntu.org/#tab-qa
[17:21] <tsimonq2> flocculant: That's excellent. :)
[17:23] <flocculant> tsimonq2: to check it boots I've a script I use to zsync stuff and then run it with kvm
[17:23] <flocculant> we keep old iso's for a while too just in case we want to backtrack 
[17:25] <tsimonq2> flocculant: sure
[17:26] <flocculant> anyway have fun herding sheep 
[17:26] <tsimonq2> I will :)
[17:33] <flocculant> tsimonq2: what major issues btw ? anything generic or just lubuntu stuff?
[17:34] <tsimonq2> flocculant: bug 1633913 and dhcpcd is broken, so both just Lubuntu stuff
[17:34] <tsimonq2> flocculant: The latter has a fix, the former needs some tooling fixes which I am working on right now.
[17:35] <flocculant> :)
[19:36] <jk^> Are they updated this Requirements?
[19:36] <jk^> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SystemRequirements
[19:37] <tsimonq2> jk^: They probably need to. GNOME is SUPER heavy compared to something like LXQt or KDE Plasma.
[19:38] <jk^> what's lxqt?
[19:38] <tsimonq2> The new Qt port of LXDE.
[19:39] <jk^> https://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/thank-you?version=16.04.2&architecture=amd64
[19:39] <jk^> at this URL
[19:39] <jk^> it let me download the 64 bit version
[19:39] <jk^> i need 32 bit
[19:39] <jk^> https://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/contribute?version=16.04.2&architecture=amd64
[19:40] <tsimonq2> jk^: This is it: https://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/thank-you?country=US&version=16.04.2&architecture=i386
[19:40] <tsimonq2> jk^: If you have an older computer with not much specs, Lubuntu, the lightweight (or LXDE) flavor of Ubuntu, might work a lot better for you.
[19:41] <jk^> why at this link https://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop
[19:41] <jk^> it gives me just 64 bit version?
[19:42] <tsimonq2> jk^: I don't know.
[19:44] <oerheks> 32 bit can be found under 'alternative downloads' , ugly, i agree