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| Laney | morning! | 08:01 |
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| seb128 | hey Laney willcooke | 08:07 |
| seb128 | how is u.k today? | 08:07 |
| willcooke | morning seb128 | 08:07 |
| willcooke | grey | 08:07 |
| willcooke | how about you? | 08:07 |
| seb128 | same | 08:07 |
| Laney | hey seb128 | 08:11 |
| Laney | broke a big stem off a plant this morning while re-potting it | 08:12 |
| Laney | ffsssssssssss | 08:12 |
| seb128 | doh | 08:12 |
| seb128 | Laney, when do you start your journey to Manchester? ;-) | 08:12 |
| Laney | this afternoon | 08:12 |
| Laney | need to pack | 08:12 |
| Laney | wonder if kenvandine made it | 08:14 |
| duflu | koza: Would you like me to migrate your 5.46 into the git repo? I haven't set up the tarball for it yet though | 08:34 |
| duflu | But once done, all you need to do is pull/push | 08:34 |
| seb128 | hey duflu | 08:34 |
| duflu | Hi seb128 | 08:35 |
| seb128 | duflu, you worked a bit on pulseaudio? is there a special workflow? I want to put a change up for review that remove the trust store changeset (so start, we might want to remove other ubuntu touch patches then as well) | 08:36 |
| koza | duflu, please do, all i did was src pkg | 08:36 |
| duflu | koza: OK will try to do that before end of today | 08:36 |
| duflu | seb128, yes, I think, let me check before I answer properly | 08:36 |
| duflu | seb128, yes the only special workflow is that pulseaudio for artful is kept in the 'ubuntu' branch: https://git.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-audio-dev/pulseaudio | 08:39 |
| duflu | "Just use git" is the workflow. You should be able to generate debdiffs and debs directly from the ubuntu branch | 08:40 |
| seb128 | duflu, thanks | 08:41 |
| duflu | seb128, a prettier history is here: https://git.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-audio-dev/pulseaudio/log/?h=ubuntu | 08:42 |
| seb128 | k | 08:43 |
| andyrock | good morning | 08:51 |
| duflu | Morning andyrock | 08:52 |
| koza | seb128: you can also try to try git ubuntu (made by nacc from server team), just type snap install git-ubuntu && git ubuntu import --no-push --no-clean pulseaudio and after a while you will get a branch per each ubuntu release plus a branch for dsc files. Quite nice to see history of changes in the archives. | 08:52 |
| seb128 | koza, I was reading that wikipage, seems worth giving it a try indeed, thanks | 08:53 |
| koza | seb128: differnt branches for patches applied and unapplied versions too! | 08:53 |
| koza | duflu: ^^^ | 08:53 |
| duflu | Interesting. I will hold off changing processes yet again right now. It's almost different for every repo I use | 08:54 |
| koza | :-) | 08:55 |
| Laney | biab | 08:56 |
| koza | makes SRUs as easy as cherry-picking a single commit | 08:56 |
| seb128 | koza, btw your bluez update, you deleted the 5.45 entry from the changelog, I guess you edited it to change the 5 in 6, but you should add a new changelog entry instead | 08:56 |
| seb128 | koza, it's no issue for the ppa version but needs to be fixed for the archive upload | 08:56 |
| seb128 | Laney, later | 08:57 |
| koza | seb128: right, now I know. I ahve made a really quick src package just for testing purposes thus a ci-train ppa. | 08:57 |
| seb128 | hey andyrock, sorry I was in middle of other things and forgot your greetings :-) | 08:57 |
| duflu | willcooke, here's some fun for you. Not sure about the best place to publish so... https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/clutter-gst-3.0/+bug/1701463/comments/3 | 09:00 |
| ubot5 | Ubuntu bug 1701463 in gstreamer-vaapi (Ubuntu) "gst-vaapi+Wayland = rendering corruption in totem (but not in gst-play-1.0)" [High,In progress] | 09:00 |
| willcooke | duflu, will take a look in a mo, just on a call (hint hint seb128) | 09:01 |
| willcooke | oh wait | 09:02 |
| willcooke | my bad | 09:02 |
| seb128 | willcooke, ? | 09:02 |
| seb128 | I don't have any call before this afternoon in my calendar | 09:02 |
| andyrock | seb128: forgiven! :D | 09:09 |
| seb128 | :-) | 09:11 |
| willcooke | duflu, is that clutter-gst for artul? | 09:19 |
| willcooke | artful* | 09:19 |
| duflu | willcooke, yes artful. Would you like me to try copying them for zesty? | 09:19 |
| willcooke | duflu, no, no worries. Artful is where it's at for me | 09:20 |
| duflu | willcooke, crucially point-and-click video playback now works. But there are smaller lingering performance bugs to resolve later | 09:25 |
| willcooke | duflu, that's awesome work, thank you! I will do some testing ASAP. And I think some social media activity is warranted here as well. Do you have the time and/or inclination to write something as a bit more of a narrative than the wiki page? | 09:27 |
| duflu | willcooke, today no, another day yes | 09:28 |
| willcooke | duflu, sure, not today, or even this week, but ya know, one day | 09:28 |
| duflu | Upstream just spoke their first few words about it minutes ago. Wonder how that will go | 09:30 |
| duflu | I did also draft a flowchart... but ran out of paper. That will take another attempt :P | 09:34 |
| willcooke | lol | 09:38 |
| seb128 | duflu, do you use gbp to build packages for the pulseaudio git checkout? | 09:50 |
| duflu | seb128, I use debuild for everything. No idea what gbp is | 09:51 |
| seb128 | git-builpackages, tools to work better with packaging in git | 09:51 |
| seb128 | if you use debuild in the checkout it changes the content and you need to clean out after? | 09:52 |
| seb128 | or do you extract a debdiff that you apply to the deb? | 09:52 |
| duflu | seb128, AFAIK no special tooling is required. That's the goal of my git layout(s), to have a tree that's always ready for packaging, however you like. A second goal is to maintail full history to upstream master | 09:53 |
| duflu | *maintain | 09:53 |
| duflu | It appears some existing solutions don't bother with that second part | 09:53 |
| seb128 | k | 09:53 |
| seb128 | shrug | 09:54 |
| seb128 | I'm back at doing a rm of things and starting fresh again | 09:54 |
| seb128 | I don't understand how people can work with git, it's just an usability disaster | 09:54 |
| duflu | seb128, admittedly I find myself with a similar problem now. But it's dinner time... | 10:02 |
| seb128 | duflu, enjoy | 10:02 |
| didrocks | hey hey! | 10:19 |
| willcooke | hi didrocks | 10:19 |
| Laney | hey didrocks | 10:25 |
| Laney | where are you? | 10:26 |
| didrocks | Laney: CDG | 10:28 |
| didrocks | will soon board to Manchester, when do you arrive? | 10:29 |
| Laney | like 18.30 | 10:30 |
| Laney | lucky you getting to visit CDG | 10:30 |
| didrocks | sooooooooooo nice | 10:31 |
| didrocks | arriving terminal 2E, bus to terminal 2F | 10:31 |
| didrocks | and back to terminal 2E to take my flight :) | 10:31 |
| Laney | hope the free booze is worth it | 10:31 |
| didrocks | none! | 10:32 |
| didrocks | it's just the plane is too big for the 2F gates | 10:32 |
| didrocks | so, they stop it at 2E+bus | 10:32 |
| didrocks | time for boarding! see you later guys | 10:33 |
| didrocks | </emails> processing | 10:33 |
| Trevinho | seb128, Laney: hey, I think https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2841 is ready for being published, however the automated testing fails... It's because some unity8 failures which I guess we won't fix now... Can we ignore that? | 10:55 |
| Laney | Trevinho: I guess so, but you might have to argue with the SRU team | 11:25 |
| willcooke | Laney, for dbgsym do I need to add another repo? | 11:31 |
| willcooke | per https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Debug%20Symbol%20Packages | 11:31 |
| Laney | dhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingProgramCrash#Non-built-in_debug_symbol_packages_.28.2A-dbgsym.29 | 11:32 |
| willcooke | ta | 11:32 |
| Trevinho | Laney: well, I think we can win that battle... | 11:33 |
| Trevinho | given the u8 status | 11:34 |
| Trevinho | and that i didn't cause for sure that test failure | 11:34 |
| willcooke | Laney, gnome-software-dbgsym : Depends: gnome-software (= 3.24.3-0ubuntu7) but 3.25.4-1ubuntu1 is to be installed | 11:35 |
| Laney | did you add ddebs from proposed? | 11:35 |
| willcooke | no, I blindly copied and pasted. soz | 11:37 |
| willcooke | fixed | 11:40 |
| Laney | cool | 11:41 |
| willcooke | Laney, did I do this right? http://paste.ubuntu.com/25183338/ | 11:45 |
| willcooke | if so I will attach to the bug | 11:45 |
| Laney | yeah, that's the same as the bugs I linked | 11:46 |
| willcooke | worth attaching to the bug? | 11:47 |
| Laney | although the backtrace indicates you don't have snapd-glib's symbols installed :-) | 11:47 |
| Laney | you can if you like | 11:47 |
| willcooke | grr, sorry | 11:48 |
| willcooke | I'll redo it and attach it | 11:48 |
| Laney | doesn't matter so much | 11:48 |
| Laney | but might be useful in the future | 11:48 |
| willcooke | heh, 2nd time I try it of course it works | 11:48 |
| darkxst | willcooke, Laney you guys heading to GUADEC? | 12:19 |
| willcooke | darkxst, just going for one day on Monday | 12:20 |
| darkxst | ok cool, I am in Manchester now ;) | 12:21 |
| darkxst | finally escaped the mountains! | 12:21 |
| darkxst | would be great to catch up with whichever desktop team members are heading over! | 12:22 |
| jbicha | darkxst: catch up on your sleep too ;) | 12:27 |
| jbicha | crazy time zones :( | 12:27 |
| Laney | darkxst: later on | 12:45 |
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| willcooke | hey robert_ancell! Which TZ are you in now? | 13:47 |
| robert_ancell | willcooke, same as you! | 13:47 |
| willcooke | \o/ | 13:47 |
| robert_ancell | And then I realised, hang on, it's still work hours :( | 13:47 |
| willcooke | hah | 13:47 |
| robert_ancell | Or can I still claim +12 timezone... | 13:48 |
| willcooke | wfm | 13:48 |
| willcooke | ;) | 13:48 |
| * Laney whips robert_ancell | 13:48 | |
| Laney | GET TO WORK! | 13:48 |
| robert_ancell | ow | 13:48 |
| Laney | that's how we do things over here | 13:49 |
| willcooke | down t' pit | 13:49 |
| Laney | we've got our country back you know | 13:49 |
| willcooke | lol | 13:49 |
| Laney | ffs | 13:51 |
| Laney | I forgot to bring my drive with debian/ubuntu mirrors on | 13:52 |
| Laney | having it while travelling was supposed to be one of the main benefits | 13:52 |
| robert_ancell | Will GUADEC no longer be able to go to the UK anymore? | 13:53 |
| robert_ancell | or be called GUADEANDUKC | 13:53 |
| Laney | :-) | 13:54 |
| Laney | I think it's been to Norway before | 13:54 |
| Laney | and some people talked about a Norway-style arrangement if we voted to Leave, so ... | 13:54 |
| Laney | presumably they were talking about the continued possibility of hosting GUADEC | 13:54 |
| robert_ancell | I'm sure that's one of the main negotiation points happening right now | 13:56 |
| robert_ancell | willcooke, did you have any more info about why the snapd featured list is ordered? Richard was asking | 14:10 |
| Laney | -Wmisleading-indentation to the rescue | 14:11 |
| willcooke | robert_ancell, why is it ordered from the store, or why do we want it ordered in the UI? | 14:11 |
| robert_ancell | willcooke, the latter, but that's driven by the former | 14:11 |
| robert_ancell | It is intended to be ordered from most important to least important right? | 14:12 |
| willcooke | I'm not worried about it being ordered in the UI, except for.. if there are n snaps being promoted and we can only support n-1 in the UI for common screen res. (1080 say) then one of them randomly vanishes - and we want some control over which one vanishes | 14:12 |
| willcooke | so yeah, kinda importance ordered, but not really - just that we want some level of control - if we have to lose one of them, then we can control that at the store level | 14:13 |
| robert_ancell | So it's considered better to always truncate the latter ones rather than randomizing (thus showing them all to every user at some point) | 14:13 |
| willcooke | interesting question, but let me ask a preceding question... can we randomise [1:n] and always trim 0 off for the featured app? | 14:16 |
| seb128 | hey robert_ancell | 14:17 |
| robert_ancell | seb128, hello | 14:17 |
| robert_ancell | willcooke, yes, we only provide [1:n] to g-s which it then randomizes | 14:17 |
| robert_ancell | [0] goes to featured | 14:18 |
| willcooke | robert_ancell, oki, cool - sec | 14:19 |
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| willcooke | robert_ancell, bear with me, I'll ping you back asap | 14:24 |
| robert_ancell | ok | 14:24 |
| andyrock | Trevinho: X sru works ok now | 14:30 |
| andyrock | do I need to approve something? | 14:30 |
| seb128 | does anyone know how to push git branches on lp so you can mp changes? | 14:35 |
| seb128 | e.g I would like to propose changes to https://git.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-audio-dev/pulseaudio/log/?h=ubuntu | 14:35 |
| seb128 | I pushed to https://code.launchpad.net/~seb128/+git/pulseaudio/+ref/ubuntu but it doesn't have an option to mp the changes | 14:36 |
| Laney | seb128: push to ~seb128/pulseaudio | 14:41 |
| Laney | ~user/+git/... is like +junk in bzr | 14:43 |
| seb128 | Laney, thanks | 14:44 |
| Laney | https://help.launchpad.net/Code/Git#Repository_URLs | 14:45 |
| Laney | not that easy to understand | 14:45 |
| Laney | k, going to train station | 14:59 |
| Laney | not sure I'll be able to get online - ttyl if not | 14:59 |
| didrocks | at least, you won't lose your luggage :p | 15:04 |
| seb128 | bah | 15:04 |
| seb128 | what is a " Target reference path" for a git mp in launchpad? | 15:05 |
| seb128 | didrocks, you did? | 15:05 |
| seb128 | hey didrocks btw :-) | 15:05 |
| didrocks | seb128: well, yes, apparently, luggage stuck at CDG | 15:05 |
| didrocks | I hope they will find it and reroute to the next flight | 15:06 |
| didrocks | but I guess no news before tomorrow morning :/ | 15:06 |
| seb128 | "fun" | 15:06 |
| didrocks | yeah… | 15:07 |
| willcooke | night all | 17:39 |
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| andyrock | ninght all! | 19:14 |
| seb128 | night | 19:25 |
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