=== JanC_ is now known as JanC === Guest83180 is now known as fredp === fredp is now known as Guest5477 [08:01] morning! [08:07] hey Laney willcooke [08:07] how is u.k today? [08:07] morning seb128 [08:07] grey [08:07] how about you? [08:07] same [08:11] hey seb128 [08:12] broke a big stem off a plant this morning while re-potting it [08:12] ffsssssssssss [08:12] doh [08:12] Laney, when do you start your journey to Manchester? ;-) [08:12] this afternoon [08:12] need to pack [08:14] wonder if kenvandine made it [08:34] koza: Would you like me to migrate your 5.46 into the git repo? I haven't set up the tarball for it yet though [08:34] But once done, all you need to do is pull/push [08:34] hey duflu [08:35] Hi seb128 [08:36] duflu, you worked a bit on pulseaudio? is there a special workflow? I want to put a change up for review that remove the trust store changeset (so start, we might want to remove other ubuntu touch patches then as well) [08:36] duflu, please do, all i did was src pkg [08:36] koza: OK will try to do that before end of today [08:36] seb128, yes, I think, let me check before I answer properly [08:39] seb128, yes the only special workflow is that pulseaudio for artful is kept in the 'ubuntu' branch: https://git.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-audio-dev/pulseaudio [08:40] "Just use git" is the workflow. You should be able to generate debdiffs and debs directly from the ubuntu branch [08:41] duflu, thanks [08:42] seb128, a prettier history is here: https://git.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-audio-dev/pulseaudio/log/?h=ubuntu [08:43] k [08:51] good morning [08:52] Morning andyrock [08:52] seb128: you can also try to try git ubuntu (made by nacc from server team), just type snap install git-ubuntu && git ubuntu import --no-push --no-clean pulseaudio and after a while you will get a branch per each ubuntu release plus a branch for dsc files. Quite nice to see history of changes in the archives. [08:53] koza, I was reading that wikipage, seems worth giving it a try indeed, thanks [08:53] seb128: differnt branches for patches applied and unapplied versions too! [08:53] duflu: ^^^ [08:54] Interesting. I will hold off changing processes yet again right now. It's almost different for every repo I use [08:55] :-) [08:56] biab [08:56] makes SRUs as easy as cherry-picking a single commit [08:56] koza, btw your bluez update, you deleted the 5.45 entry from the changelog, I guess you edited it to change the 5 in 6, but you should add a new changelog entry instead [08:56] koza, it's no issue for the ppa version but needs to be fixed for the archive upload [08:57] Laney, later [08:57] seb128: right, now I know. I ahve made a really quick src package just for testing purposes thus a ci-train ppa. [08:57] hey andyrock, sorry I was in middle of other things and forgot your greetings :-) [09:00] willcooke, here's some fun for you. Not sure about the best place to publish so... https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/clutter-gst-3.0/+bug/1701463/comments/3 [09:00] Ubuntu bug 1701463 in gstreamer-vaapi (Ubuntu) "gst-vaapi+Wayland = rendering corruption in totem (but not in gst-play-1.0)" [High,In progress] [09:01] duflu, will take a look in a mo, just on a call (hint hint seb128) [09:02] oh wait [09:02] my bad [09:02] willcooke, ? [09:02] I don't have any call before this afternoon in my calendar [09:09] seb128: forgiven! :D [09:11] :-) [09:19] duflu, is that clutter-gst for artul? [09:19] artful* [09:19] willcooke, yes artful. Would you like me to try copying them for zesty? [09:20] duflu, no, no worries. Artful is where it's at for me [09:25] willcooke, crucially point-and-click video playback now works. But there are smaller lingering performance bugs to resolve later [09:27] duflu, that's awesome work, thank you! I will do some testing ASAP. And I think some social media activity is warranted here as well. Do you have the time and/or inclination to write something as a bit more of a narrative than the wiki page? [09:28] willcooke, today no, another day yes [09:28] duflu, sure, not today, or even this week, but ya know, one day [09:30] Upstream just spoke their first few words about it minutes ago. Wonder how that will go [09:34] I did also draft a flowchart... but ran out of paper. That will take another attempt :P [09:38] lol [09:50] duflu, do you use gbp to build packages for the pulseaudio git checkout? [09:51] seb128, I use debuild for everything. No idea what gbp is [09:51] git-builpackages, tools to work better with packaging in git [09:52] if you use debuild in the checkout it changes the content and you need to clean out after? [09:52] or do you extract a debdiff that you apply to the deb? [09:53] seb128, AFAIK no special tooling is required. That's the goal of my git layout(s), to have a tree that's always ready for packaging, however you like. A second goal is to maintail full history to upstream master [09:53] *maintain [09:53] It appears some existing solutions don't bother with that second part [09:53] k [09:54] shrug [09:54] I'm back at doing a rm of things and starting fresh again [09:54] I don't understand how people can work with git, it's just an usability disaster [10:02] seb128, admittedly I find myself with a similar problem now. But it's dinner time... [10:02] duflu, enjoy [10:19] hey hey! [10:19] hi didrocks [10:25] hey didrocks [10:26] where are you? [10:28] Laney: CDG [10:29] will soon board to Manchester, when do you arrive? [10:30] like 18.30 [10:30] lucky you getting to visit CDG [10:31] sooooooooooo nice [10:31] arriving terminal 2E, bus to terminal 2F [10:31] and back to terminal 2E to take my flight :) [10:31] hope the free booze is worth it [10:32] none! [10:32] it's just the plane is too big for the 2F gates [10:32] so, they stop it at 2E+bus [10:33] time for boarding! see you later guys [10:33] processing [10:55] seb128, Laney: hey, I think https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2841 is ready for being published, however the automated testing fails... It's because some unity8 failures which I guess we won't fix now... Can we ignore that? [11:25] Trevinho: I guess so, but you might have to argue with the SRU team [11:31] Laney, for dbgsym do I need to add another repo? [11:31] per https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Debug%20Symbol%20Packages [11:32] dhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingProgramCrash#Non-built-in_debug_symbol_packages_.28.2A-dbgsym.29 [11:32] ta [11:33] Laney: well, I think we can win that battle... [11:34] given the u8 status [11:34] and that i didn't cause for sure that test failure [11:35] Laney, gnome-software-dbgsym : Depends: gnome-software (= 3.24.3-0ubuntu7) but 3.25.4-1ubuntu1 is to be installed [11:35] did you add ddebs from proposed? [11:37] no, I blindly copied and pasted. soz [11:40] fixed [11:41] cool [11:45] Laney, did I do this right? http://paste.ubuntu.com/25183338/ [11:45] if so I will attach to the bug [11:46] yeah, that's the same as the bugs I linked [11:47] worth attaching to the bug? [11:47] although the backtrace indicates you don't have snapd-glib's symbols installed :-) [11:47] you can if you like [11:48] grr, sorry [11:48] I'll redo it and attach it [11:48] doesn't matter so much [11:48] but might be useful in the future [11:48] heh, 2nd time I try it of course it works [12:19] willcooke, Laney you guys heading to GUADEC? [12:20] darkxst, just going for one day on Monday [12:21] ok cool, I am in Manchester now ;) [12:21] finally escaped the mountains! [12:22] would be great to catch up with whichever desktop team members are heading over! [12:27] darkxst: catch up on your sleep too ;) [12:27] crazy time zones :( [12:45] darkxst: later on === sergiusens_ is now known as sergiusens [13:47] hey robert_ancell! Which TZ are you in now? [13:47] willcooke, same as you! [13:47] \o/ [13:47] And then I realised, hang on, it's still work hours :( [13:47] hah [13:48] Or can I still claim +12 timezone... [13:48] wfm [13:48] ;) [13:48] * Laney whips robert_ancell [13:48] GET TO WORK! [13:48] ow [13:49] that's how we do things over here [13:49] down t' pit [13:49] we've got our country back you know [13:49] lol [13:51] ffs [13:52] I forgot to bring my drive with debian/ubuntu mirrors on [13:52] having it while travelling was supposed to be one of the main benefits [13:53] Will GUADEC no longer be able to go to the UK anymore? [13:53] or be called GUADEANDUKC [13:54] :-) [13:54] I think it's been to Norway before [13:54] and some people talked about a Norway-style arrangement if we voted to Leave, so ... [13:54] presumably they were talking about the continued possibility of hosting GUADEC [13:56] I'm sure that's one of the main negotiation points happening right now [14:10] willcooke, did you have any more info about why the snapd featured list is ordered? Richard was asking [14:11] -Wmisleading-indentation to the rescue [14:11] robert_ancell, why is it ordered from the store, or why do we want it ordered in the UI? [14:11] willcooke, the latter, but that's driven by the former [14:12] It is intended to be ordered from most important to least important right? [14:12] I'm not worried about it being ordered in the UI, except for.. if there are n snaps being promoted and we can only support n-1 in the UI for common screen res. (1080 say) then one of them randomly vanishes - and we want some control over which one vanishes [14:13] so yeah, kinda importance ordered, but not really - just that we want some level of control - if we have to lose one of them, then we can control that at the store level [14:13] So it's considered better to always truncate the latter ones rather than randomizing (thus showing them all to every user at some point) [14:16] interesting question, but let me ask a preceding question... can we randomise [1:n] and always trim 0 off for the featured app? [14:17] hey robert_ancell [14:17] seb128, hello [14:17] willcooke, yes, we only provide [1:n] to g-s which it then randomizes [14:18] [0] goes to featured [14:19] robert_ancell, oki, cool - sec === sergiusens_ is now known as sergiusens [14:24] robert_ancell, bear with me, I'll ping you back asap [14:24] ok [14:30] Trevinho: X sru works ok now [14:30] do I need to approve something? [14:35] does anyone know how to push git branches on lp so you can mp changes? [14:35] e.g I would like to propose changes to https://git.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-audio-dev/pulseaudio/log/?h=ubuntu [14:36] I pushed to https://code.launchpad.net/~seb128/+git/pulseaudio/+ref/ubuntu but it doesn't have an option to mp the changes [14:41] seb128: push to ~seb128/pulseaudio [14:43] ~user/+git/... is like +junk in bzr [14:44] Laney, thanks [14:45] https://help.launchpad.net/Code/Git#Repository_URLs [14:45] not that easy to understand [14:59] k, going to train station [14:59] not sure I'll be able to get online - ttyl if not [15:04] at least, you won't lose your luggage :p [15:04] bah [15:05] what is a " Target reference path" for a git mp in launchpad? [15:05] didrocks, you did? [15:05] hey didrocks btw :-) [15:05] seb128: well, yes, apparently, luggage stuck at CDG [15:06] I hope they will find it and reroute to the next flight [15:06] but I guess no news before tomorrow morning :/ [15:06] "fun" [15:07] yeah… [17:39] night all === pavlushka_ is now known as pavlushka [19:14] ninght all! [19:25] night === Guest5477 is now known as fredp === fredp is now known as Guest51828 === JanC_ is now known as JanC === ayan is now known as Guest99857 === sarnold_ is now known as sarnold