[00:17] Anyone here? [00:19] I'm having a issue with my headless server. The root (/) is at 100% and I can't find whatis eating all the space [00:19] I have a plexdata folder that is around 40gb but it is on another partition [00:20] saitoh183: One palce to start is ' df -h ; df -i ' . Maybe out of inodes ?? [00:22] Bashing-om what is inodes.. I can google it.. Might be that.. [00:24] saitoh183: inodes are the data structures are adressed . No address no means to access data . [00:25] Ok how do I check? [00:26] saitoh183: ' df -i ' .. where the (i)nodes are evaluated and reported . [00:32] Bashing-om thanks it is that... From my rclone mount [00:35] saitoh183: All you can do at this point when out of inodes is delete files . A small file takes as many inodes as a large file . IF you re-partition one can specify a larger inode alotment . [00:36] how do I see all the commands run my the ubuntu installer? [00:38] donofrio: Have a look in the /var/log/installer directory . [00:40] Bashing-om, guess I'm missing xauthority file....was looking for how the script laysout/builds that file [00:40] Bashing-om thanks [00:44] donofrio: .Xauthority ? note the dot and upper case x . [00:46] Bashing-om, yah that file [00:48] donofrio: So what is the issue ? Best I recall if you have not accessed a GUI desktop the .Xauthority file does not exist . [00:48] <[n0mad]> i'm pretty sure you wouldn't have that file from install since everything i find online indicates it's not been installed since at least 10.10 [00:49] [n0mad]: " ls -al .Xauthority [00:49] >> -rw------- 1 sysop sysop 50 Jul 26 12:24 .Xauthority ". [00:49] <[n0mad]> i don't have one [00:50] [n0mad]: Running a GUI ? [00:50] <[n0mad]> yes, i'm running ubuntu gnome 16.04 [00:50] <[n0mad]> i saw some mention of that file the other day and couldn't find it, don't remember what i was doing [00:51] <[n0mad]> https://askubuntu.com/questions/21923/how-do-i-create-the-xauthority-file [00:51] <[n0mad]> that's from 2011 [00:52] <[n0mad]> "In Ubuntu 10.10 there's no longer a ~/.Xauthority file." [00:52] Bashing-om, I'm using this as my daily driver (https://1drv.ms/f/s!AsBlZbBf72iNmf1YPFEhsyp8hw50uA) at work, and I'm unable to start firefox though an ssh -Y tunnel so I guess I just need to create this file... [00:52] [n0mad]: maybe running wayland? would make sense not having that file [00:52] xfce4 fwiw.....on both desktops's [00:53] my home ubuntu 16.04 works....xfce4 [00:53] work one doesn't [00:53] <[n0mad]> you might check that link i posted. it talks about SSH and the .Xauthority [00:54] <[n0mad]> glitsj16: i'm just running default ubuntu gnome 16.04, that's all i can tell ya [00:54] [n0mad], K I'll review [00:55] [n0mad]: oh no problem, just wondering what might be possible having no ~/.Xauthority yet using a GUI [00:55] [n0mad]: Then that file must exist . my 17.04 gmome : " sysop@x1604:~$ ls -al /media/sysop/ubie1704/home/sysop1/.Xauthority >> -rw------- 1 sysop sysop 100 Jul 23 11:43 /media/sysop/ubie1704/home/sysop1/.Xauthority " . [00:56] hi? [00:56] hallo! [00:57] hallo? [00:57] <[n0mad]> not sure what to tell you. i'm just going by what that article states. it seems that file can be created by other means [00:57] <[n0mad]> i definitely don't have one [00:57] what? [00:58] Bashing-om, what script runs each time I start/login to my ubuntu 16.04 install cause it is craeted today (seems like this is something that is needed each time?) [00:58] login [00:58] I am [00:58] hence my screenshot [00:59] . [00:59] . [00:59] hallo? [00:59] o.0 [01:00] What are you talking about? [01:00] who me, the lack of ablity to run remote x11 applications cause I have no .Xauthority file [01:01] <[n0mad]> donofrio: that article states that you can ssh -X user@host and it will complain about the file missing but will create it. not sure if that's the case but may be worth a shot [01:02] [n0mad], with that I get "Warning: No xauth data; using fake authentication data for X11 forwarding." [01:02] <[n0mad]> do you have the 3 settings set the way it indicates? [01:02] and then I get "connect /tmp/.X11-unix/X0: No such file or directory connect /tmp/.X11-unix/X0: No such file or directory Error: cannot open display: localhost:11.0 [01:03] I always use ssh -Y when done from my home desktop install it works, and it does have .Xauthority but from my boxes at work it doesn't work, and I have no .Xauthority [01:04] i come again! [01:04] work ubuntu's are 14.04 fwiw [01:04] Do you know xubuntu? [01:04] donofrio: Need clarification here as to what we are working with . ubuntu/xfce4 as the means to start are mutually exclusive. [01:04] COLOUR_BLUE, just ask your question [01:05] . [01:05] Bashing-om, uh at home it's 16.04 and ssh tunnel works, at work its 14.04 and its not working [01:07] <[n0mad]> i didn't really find much info on creating the file beyond what that article suggests in a few different forum pages [01:07] <[n0mad]> sorry [01:07] donofrio: I am having difficulties keeping straight what the reference is . IRT my last was in repect to " what script runs each time I start/login to my ubuntu 16.04 install " depending on what you are running is what scripts get called to start the DE . [01:08] [n0mad], no big thing I know things take time.....been iirc'ing for almost three decades now [01:08] https://pastebin.com/8DcrycAw [01:08] weird mistake [01:08] how to let my xubuntu more pretty? [01:08] and [01:08] how to install xfce theme [01:08] ??? [01:09] COLOUR_BLUE, I just apt-get install xfce4* -y [01:09] sudo? [01:09] yah [01:09] sudo apt-get ? [01:09] ok [01:09] thanks [01:09] COLOUR_BLUE: please do not use ENTER as punctiation [01:10] i know [01:10] so please stop [01:10] ok... [01:11] i am an impetuous person... [01:11] sorry.. [01:11] i dont see any issue [01:11] dont like use ignore :) [01:11] bye! [01:12] eee [01:12] wait....i want to ask:how many people is using Xubuntu? [01:13] yo [01:13] COLOUR_BLUE: this would be a better question for the #xubuntu channel [01:13] :)) [01:13] I would personally expect Xubuntu to have many users [01:13] ok... [01:13] bye [01:13] hey gogereaver [01:16] Bashing-om, keep in context this is what I am running at work.... https://apaste.info/D5P4 [01:18] donofrio: any ideas about my error? [01:18] hehehe, didn't see error just looked like missing client command [01:19] it says mongo is not installed [01:19] maybe I skimmed too fast [01:19] when I install it [01:19] yah I seen that [01:19] donofrio: K; looking . .ICEAuthority is used for client to client, while .Xauthority is for client to server. Checj also that .ICEauthority exists . [01:19] it says its already installed! [01:19] checking [01:19] kl [01:19] Hi there. I'm trying to connect to the db using vichan-devel and I'm getting "Database error: SQLSTATE[HY000] [2002] Connection refused [01:19] " [01:19] after installation [01:20] it says its installed but then The program 'mongo' is currently not installed. You can install it by typing: [01:20] Bashing-om, yes I have ice at home and one at work.... [01:20] I'm using mysql [01:20] btw [01:20] wait turns out I do have xauthority after all... [01:20] kromwell: so ask ther [01:20] :) [01:20] there [01:20] I'm still lost as to why ssh -Y will not start firefox though the tunnel... [01:21] donofrio: what can be wrong with error I have? [01:21] or you dont know? [01:21] hehehe, dunno looked right perhaps #mongo? [01:22] https://stackoverflow.com/questions/20503366/installed-mongodb-on-ubuntu-says-its-not-installed [01:22] something like this I think [01:22] hehehe: is there a /usr/bin/mongo? [01:23] hrr in fact no [01:25] hehehe: on a pastebin, show us (1) your Ubuntu version (lsb_release -r); (2) the output of dpkg -L mongodb-clients [01:25] ok [01:25] hi [01:26] Bashing-om, do you run x11 apps though ssh? just wondering....thank you for helping me out tonight such an awesome channel ;) [01:29] Release: 16.04 https://pastebin.com/pheqe3dq [01:30] <[n0mad]> so weird. i can ssh -X and run apps just fine with no .Xauthority. wonder what the difference is. [01:30] what I did after I apt-ger purge mongo before installing again , I also deleted mongo in /usr/bin [01:30] thinking that new install will re create it [01:31] i should of used dpkg to remove right? [01:31] hey , i'm trying to find the FULL documentation of preseed d-i, ubiquity, and oem-config directives. anyone have a good place where i can find them? the debian handbook only covers a few of them , not all. [01:37] anyone know how to use loopback audio [01:39] [n0mad], I was just told a decade ago to start using it...and stop using -X [01:39] donofrio: No, I have no X forwarding . Now-a-days I only have this single box to contend with . [01:40] ok well I'll lurk like always if anyone knows anything I should try type it and I thank you..... [01:41] fixed [01:41] used dpkg to -r [01:41] and reinstall [01:41] hello [01:41] any good ubuntu smurfphones around ? [01:41] can´t you just format adnoird system and install ubuntu 1 ? === KindTwo is now known as KindOne [01:51] unholymachine: https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/installation-guide/amd64/index.html might be a good place to start, if you haven't seen it already.. [01:51] yes i've seen it already [01:51] it doesn't cover all of the arguments [01:52] unholymachine: there was someone else inquiring into preseeding a few days ago, never found much else at the time i'm afraid [01:55] Bashing-om, (Debug output) working ssh -Y tunnel for firefox x11 forwarded setup at https://apaste.info/DqYI broken work setup at https://apaste.info/EPLd [01:55] So, any bets on how long it'll take for ubuntu to get zfs 0.7? [01:55] https://github.com/zfsonlinux/zfs/releases/tag/zfs-0.7.0 etc [01:56] ShaRose, any actual support issues, or just want to chit chat [01:56] Not really support, it adds a bunch of features mostly [01:57] ShaRose, try a chat channel please, this is support only [02:01] donofrio: This might be better addressed in the #ubuntu-on-windows channel ? [02:01] !ubuwin | donofrio [02:01] donofrio: Canonical and Microsoft have announced that Windows 10 will be able to run Ubuntu programs without needing porting/recompilation. This functionality is still in beta and is not supported in #ubuntu. For discussion and support, see #ubuntu-on-windows. === iopq_ is now known as iopq [02:03] Bashing-om, there is no-one but one fellow that is there ever of the 10 lurkers, this room is over flowing....I'm sure 14.04 is 14.04 ubuntu [02:05] donofrio: However, are you not attempting to forward to the work xfce4 install that is on a Windows system ? [02:07] I'm on two desktop's that are both WSL installs with 14.04 from Microsoft store, apt-get'ed xfce4 use that daily, admin jboss using ssh tunnel and run firefox to 127.0.0.1 website....but now at work it's not working cause I'm missing something silly I'm betting.... === mwsb is now known as chu === r0Oter is now known as r00ter [02:44] Hello, What version of ubuntu will lose unity and bring back gnome? [02:49] hi, anybody here ? [02:50] I have setup ufw to nat my PPPOE connection with before.rules. Found that the interface ppp0 is not yet created when ufw starts and thus Natting fails until I restart ufw. [02:50] What can I do? [02:50] install ubuntu 12.04 , always ask me to choice "continue withdout default router" , how to skip this [02:51] I try to set netcfg/no_default_route boolean true, but It's not working . [02:53] <[n0mad]> 12.04 is EOL [02:53] by the way , I use the pxe to install ubuntu 12.04 [02:54] so , I have meet many times with the problem [02:55] hi [02:57] i have a weird problem [02:58] im using ubuntu 17.04 and when i type my imput lag and the words appear all at the same time. [02:59] df [02:59] im experiencing this problem with all distros i've tried till now [02:59] maxcell_, check your logs, see what's causing problems [02:59] df [02:59] notdaniel, let me loggin into the ubuntu [02:59] brb [02:59] maxcell_, might be some sort of driver issue, if it's on multiple distros. what computer is it? [03:01] hi [03:02] what logs? [03:03] when i open the terminal now, i type apt-get and it frozen and then it appears all at the same time. It keeps doing that every once in a while. [03:03] some distros do it more than others [03:08] notdaniel, what logs? [03:09] #ubuntu-ko [03:19] maxcell_, if this happens frequently enough, run 'journalctl -f' in a window (which will output some logs in real-time), open another window, see if the problem occurs, and notice what journalctl spits out while it's happening [03:22] notdaniel, thanks [03:25] maxcell_, my guess is your lag is being caused by something hanging and very likely spitting out the reasons why. does cpu hang and such too? [03:26] maxcell_, also google around the computer youre using, might have a driver/hardware issue. some newer laptops and such require something specific [03:27] which if youve tried many distros, sounds likely. if youre using ubuntu desktop, you can see if anything turns up in the Additional Drivers app [03:27] notdaniel, its a normal PC, i5-2500 intel with nvidia card installed [03:27] my laptop for instance needs a proprietary driver for most acpi stuff to function correctly [03:28] maxcell_, nvidia cards can be a real hassle to set up with ubuntu, but generally the problem there is ubuntu just wont boot properly without the right drivers [03:58] what can be used to block URLs, scan downloads for virus and block pages based on content? http and https [04:01] <[n0mad]> these links may provide you more info https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ParentalControls ; https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Antivirus [04:03] looks like dansguardian.. however it is OLD . there is a fork.. e2guardian... not sure about htat [04:04] can any body help me [04:04] plex see my drive but does not see any folders in it [04:24] <[n0mad]> amicrawler: i'm actually getting off of here but you're having a permissions issue. best reference I can give is https://support.plex.tv/hc/en-us/articles/200288596-Linux-Permissions-Guide [04:24] <[n0mad]> or you could do what I did and not run as the plex user http://jhshi.me/2015/12/05/run-plex-media-server-as-another-user-in-ubuntu/index.html [04:24] i fixed it easy [04:25] works just fine now [04:25] <[n0mad]> cool [04:25] pain [04:25] but gtg now [04:36] hello anybody here, need some help with ubuntu-java-eclipse [04:37] !ask | xtrmrbl [04:37] xtrmrbl: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience [05:16] eclipse unable to start giving error JVM terminated exit code =1 , details-> https://pastebin.com/Tyz5pstB , please help , i am already late for my assignment [05:21] :D [05:29] xtrmrbl: there is an #eclipse channel also if you like [05:42] hi ... i am trying to enable :URL rewriting is not properly configured on your server. [05:42] but everytime no luck [05:51] !details | sonu_nk [05:51] sonu_nk: Please elaborate; your question or issue may not seem clear or detailed enough for people to help you. Please give more detailed information; for example, we might need errors, steps, relevant configuration files, Ubuntu version, and hardware information. Use a !pastebin to avoid flooding the channel. === Jochen_wvdT is now known as Schlawiner [06:33] hi, so [06:33] i have a problem [06:35] with xorg and gnome [06:35] someone would be interested to help me? [06:37] #freenode [06:37] !ask [06:37] Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience [06:39] Mittens: ? [06:40] hi lotuspsychje === JanC_ is now known as JanC === Mittens is now known as MittensAFK [06:55] #vegan ##vegan [06:56] MittensAFK: to join a channel type /join #channel [06:56] lotuspsychje :D wow [06:56] thank you!!! [06:56] I will do that from now on [07:08] !alis | MittensAFK: and if the # ## was an attempt to search for channels, try alis bot, you should be able to filter channels on freenode for something like 'vegan' [07:08] MittensAFK: and if the # ## was an attempt to search for channels, try alis bot, you should be able to filter channels on freenode for something like 'vegan': Alis is an IRC service to help you find channels. For help on using it, see "/msg Alis help list" or ask in #freenode. Example usage: "/msg Alis list http" [07:13] Hi All [07:13] I am trying to downgrade package [07:14] is it possible to do ? [07:14] I want to install https://launchpad.net/~paulo-miguel-dias/+archive/ubuntu/mesa/+build/13130480 this build [07:14] SchrodingersScat and ubottu thank you! [07:15] SchrodingersScat: downloaded Ubuntu! <3 Thanks again for your help. Loving the simple intuitive interface. xD [07:16] any idea ??? [07:22] hi. i am newbie in linux. i use unutnu livecd 16.04 . i want create lvm on hdd, but i dont have any entry in system-config-lvm . how i can repair it? [07:29] hey every body , i setted up vsftpd on a linux-box , and i setted the chroot of my user to somewhere like this : /var/www/html/upload . but there is a problem by connecting to it with ubuntu "connect to server" . it redirect me to user home path !!!!!!!!!!!!! when is use filezila it redirect to correct chroot path . where is the problem [07:29] ? [07:33] interresting issue: if I, on trusty, set up a debootstrap'd chroot and then run dist-upgrade, it fails due to symlinks [07:33] or rather [07:34] dpkg: error processing archive /var/cache/apt/archives/libc6_2.19-0ubuntu6.13_amd64.deb (--unpack): [07:34] symbolic link '/lib64/ld-linux-x86-64.so.2' size has changed from 78 to 32 [07:34] the setup process is simply running `fakeroot fakechroot debootstrap trusty tmp/dir http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu` [07:34] then when that finishes, i use proot to establish a user chroot: [07:35] `proot -b /dev -b /proc -b /sys -b /etc/resolv.conf -b tmp/dir/:/ -w / -0 /bin/bash` [07:35] in that shell, i then add the correct /etc/apt/sources.list file from a standard non-modified trusty install, update, then run dist-upgrade [07:36] Does anyone know how to solve this issue? Or troubleshoot it? [07:42] I'll post full steps to reproduce in a minute or two === mircx1 is now known as BMT === BMT is now known as BMT1 [08:25] I have some issues on my machine. My load keeps way too high with almost all my services disabled but no idea where its coming from [08:26] load average: 2.66, 3.09, 2.76 [08:27] But no idea where to look next at this point [08:28] reproducable steps: http://paste.ubuntu.com/25182414/ [08:28] Dirkos, have you tried installing xfce4-taskmanager and sorting by CPU usage? [08:29] necrophcodr: i have htop though [08:29] Dirkos, then sort with htop. What is using the most CPU? [08:29] There are no processes with high CPU necrophcodr [08:29] Dirkos, If it's not a lot, you might want to go into setup, and add the IO_RATES column, and sort by that [08:30] That can sometimes give an indication of iowait [08:30] i cant at htop i believe? [08:30] there is no IORATES column [08:30] Dirkos, there should be, but you need to press F2 to go to setup [08:31] Then go to Columns, Available Columns, scroll down to IO_RATE, and press F5 [08:31] not listed [08:31] then press F10, and press F6 to sort, and select IO [08:31] an nvm wait [08:34] sshd and htop causing most IO [08:34] so seems normal right [08:37] so im really stuck now haha [08:39] hey guys, I updated from 14.04 to 16.04 and now i cant see my panel. anybody know why? [08:40] unity works but the panel with the time on it and indicators is gone [08:40] also unity shortcuts like ctrl-alt-t sotpped working [08:42] Dirkos, i guess you might try to open `top -H`, press f, and go to S, then press s, q, and then Shift+R to reverse sorting. Then look for the row S and see if it says R or D [08:42] Dirkos, it's explained furthere here: https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/116849/why-load-is-high-despite-the-fact-that-neither-cpu-or-disk-is-overused/116865#116865 [08:42] Basically [08:42] f the process shows a D, that means "uninterruptable sleep". Usually this is caused when the process is waiting on I/O (disk, network, etc). [08:42] f the process shows a R, that means it's just doing normal computation. [08:43] That's just a bit of Google Fu === Jochen_wvdT is now known as Schlawiner [09:22] landscape-sysinfo keeps pulling 80% CPU] [09:22] what is this process? [09:22] it collects data i see but how can it be that slow if it is [09:36] I'm connected to wifi with an external dongle, but every connection keeps timing out. How can I get wifi to work on my pc (ubuntu 16.04.02) [09:37] trijntje_, most connection issues are related to wireless N, what wifi adapter exactly? [09:39] oerheks: its a Realtek Edimax card, 7392:7811 [09:41] ah, the "rtl8192cu" [09:43] oerheks: lsusb shows it as Realtek RTL8188CUS [09:44] Dirkos, https://landscape.canonical.com/ [09:44] the same card is working fine on another pc, I'm currently attempting to install the latest updates, which is the only thing I cna think of [09:44] Dirkos, it's probably part of your landscape infrastructure. Or you enabled Landscape during installation without setting it up. [09:46] trijntje, ok i see 3 posts with the same fixes, to build a dkms https://askubuntu.com/questions/612649/edimax-ew-7811un-wifi-adapter-not-working-on-ubuntu-14-04-lts +++ https://forum.ubuntuusers.de/topic/wlan-stick-524440/3/#post-5638107 [09:47] trijntje__, if that does not solve, trottle back to wifi A/B/G [09:47] Hello all need help regarding kernel panic in 14.04 issue - http://imgur.com/a/3oKAQ [09:47] necrophcodr, landscape-sysinfo is a debian package, not related to the ubuntu landscape tool [09:48] oerheks, really? wow, i'm retarded. i'm so sorry Dirkos [09:48] necrophcodr, your thought was mine too :-D [09:48] oerheks: but why can it generate such an high load? [09:49] Hey folks! I'm tying to use a Live USB on a laptop that have bad HD, is there a way to ignore the HD during the live session boot? [09:49] Dirkos, no idea, maybe you see other processes with high load too in top/htop? or maybe zombies even? [09:49] elacheche: you can set the boot device in the bios, just set it to boot from the usb [09:50] hi all [09:50] elacheche: however, if you plan to recover the data please take some time to make sure you know what you are doing. Just going in and starting to copy files could make things worse [09:51] trijntje__: I can boot from the USB, but when loading the OS for the live session it keeps reading the HD, as it's damaged, the live session won't boot [09:51] I got USB flash drive plugged in to 16.04 x64 bit Laptop. When I tried to create a folder, the drive disappeared. [09:52] elacheche: really? that is very bad. Best to disconnect the harddisk before it gets trashed by whatever insists on mounting it on the live system. [09:52] oerheks: not really, even restarted machine to get rid of all the mess [09:53] :/ Thanks trijntje__ [09:54] i want to make some sort of python script that can send me notification at some certain time , any help? [09:54] it is now appeared and disappeared frequently. [09:54] oerheks: looks like updating from 4.4.0-83 to 4.4.0-87 solved the wifi problem [09:54] join #ubuntu-kernel [09:56] Hi everyone. I'm on Ubuntu 16.04. Is there an "upgrade" for this release? I'm being prompted to perform a partial upgrade. [09:58] Richard_Cavell: 16.04 is an LTS release [09:58] there is no newer LTS version [10:00] Well Software Update just made me do a "partial upgrade", and I'm still on 16.04.2 according to uname -a [10:01] Richard_Cavell: thats probably because it could not update all packages, can you run sudo apt update && sudo apt upgrade -y [10:01] oerheks: ignore that, I still have the disconnect problem [10:02] trijntje__: There's one package called nestopia that I don't want upgraded. I got it from a PPA. [10:17] hi, [10:18] how to skip 'continue withdout default router' when install ubuntu12.04 with pxe [10:20] have anybody make the sense? [10:22] I have used the d-i netcf/no-default-route boolean true , but it does not work [10:39] wudo_honour: https://askubuntu.com/questions/201748/continue-without-a-default-route might offer some insight [10:42] I'm trying to create /usr partition as existing / partition is run out of space. I have copied contents of /usr to new parition created and specified in fstab but now how to delete the contents of /usr under / partition? [10:43] Hanumaan: Are you doing this while running? [10:43] vlt, yes it is on a virtual machine [10:43] VM shouldn’t matter, [10:44] There might be a more appropriate way but I’d mount the new file system over /mnt [10:44] first [10:45] Then mount the / file system a second time somewhere else and delete /usr/* from it. [10:45] All running processes that stil use files on the old /usr will keep their files provided by the kernel. [10:46] So you might not instantly get _all_ of the expected free space. [10:46] For the "somewhere else" part you could use mount -o bind [10:47] vlt, so / can be mounted second time? something like "sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt/secondslash" [10:47] vlt, ok [10:49] vlt, so in my case then I have to delete /mnt/secondslash/usr/* [10:50] Hanumaan: Should work. [10:53] Hanumaan: To make sure you delete the correct files, [10:53] you could create a file on the old /usr/ like /usr/THIS_IS_OLD and one on the new. [11:01] how can i limit the width of the text I read in fullscreen terminal, ubuntu 16, i don't need it all 16:9 size, half of it would be enoug [11:01] enough* [11:03] alexas: tmux and vetical split, for example. === juboxi is now known as jubo2 [11:17] hi, is this some lates xorg update issue in Xenial http://paste.ubuntu.com/25182640/ ? [11:20] soee_, good question, i see the update llvm3.8 to llvm4.0, maybe that explains the huge update [11:20] did you run apt update before this? [11:20] oerheks: yes [11:20] oke, i think this is alright then, considering the HWE [11:21] hi, I have a question about releasing/packaging things [11:22] i'd like to provide binary packages that are built with C++17, only available with GCC7/clang4 [11:22] what would be the best approach to distributing such binaries for ubuntu 16.04? [11:24] janisozaur, if this is personal, maybe starting a PPA is a choise? [11:24] !ppa [11:24] A Personal Package Archive (PPA) can provide alternate software not normally available in the offical Ubuntu repositories - Looking for a PPA? See https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ppas - WARNING: PPAs are unsupported third-party packages, and you use them at your own risk. See also !addppa and !ppa-purge [11:24] have a hard requirement on the toolchain PPA? statically link libstdc++ (or libc++? don't remember which one is GCC's)? just drop support for 16.04? or something else? [11:24] oerheks: we had PPA running at some point, but maintaining it is just too hard [11:41] janisozaur: Bundling everything into a snap might be the best way. Don't know how well a version on libstdc++ compiled with GCC7 would play witht he kernel, though. Would be interesting to see [11:42] You don't need to statically link the libraries. Just bundle whatever you need in the snap [11:43] pesonally i thing SNAP is a funny way to spell BLOAT [11:43] Hi there. On a default LVM encrypted install, the installer creates a 1K empty partition. Why? [11:43] snap is also an idea, great answer, mcphail [11:44] Younder: I'm not sure that's aprticularly constructive with regards tot he original question [11:45] By the way I also use anap as it eliminates problems with dependencies. [11:45] Eat the expense of going back to the 1980 where every application carries it's own libs. [11:46] Younder: in janisozaur's case, he specifically requires a way to supply an incompatible set of libs [11:46] fair enough [11:51] Hi all [11:51] i'm familiar with the concept of snap, but haven't looked into it. [11:51] how big should I expect the resulting package to be? [11:51] I'm guessing somewhere around 100-200MiB? [11:52] or, in other words: how much of the system comes packaged? [11:52] BluesKaj: oh hey, welcome [11:52] Hi SchrodingersScat [11:53] planned is 18.04 will have mostly snap packages. [11:54] janisozaur: basically, it'll include your binary, the dynamically linked libs and the libs your libs require. As you've postulated, in your case you'll probably need to go all the way back to libstc++ if you're using a different version of the toolchain. There's a bit of metadata to add, but not much else. So your package is going to be as big or small as it needs to be [11:55] janisozaur: for many other packages you can rely on the default system libs as provided in the core snap. But you'll probably not be able to use those due to your toolchain requirements [11:55] is there a "base" image for snaps? [11:55] janisozaur: there's a "core" snap which is the default runtime, yes [11:56] janisozaur: the chaps in #snappy can give a bit more advice there [11:56] hmm sounds like more confusion in the ubuntu camp [11:56] is the core snap based on ubuntu? if so, which version? will the core image be updated ever? when? [11:57] How to update my openGL driver? [11:57] So any idea why the installer would create such a small 1K partition? [11:57] janisozaur: I think the core snap is basically Ubuntu Core (or whatever the IoT ubuntu thingy is called tehse days) [11:57] does a single snap contain all the files or is it overlay-like, where layers can be shared between snaps? [11:58] poffy, can you paste the output of fdisk -l on paste.ubuntu.com? 1 k partition is odd, maybe it is an allignment issue [11:58] janisozaur: beyond the core snap, no - things aren't yet shared in layers. i think there are plans for runtimes but I don't think they're there yet. Again, the #snappy chaps will be more up to date than me [11:59] ok, thanks [12:01] paste.ubuntu.com/25183397/ [12:05] poffy, so where is that 1k partition on your elementary? [12:05] I can paste the output of lsblk [12:05] which says sda2 is only 1K [12:06] poffy, ah, Étendue = extended, that is a workaround for the max 4 primairy partitions [12:06] yep [12:07] ok that should answer my question [12:07] I am too used of UEFI [12:07] it is just a partition that can hold more partitions, pretty legal [12:07] yw [12:08] so now why is the installer choosing BIOS when UEFI is available? [12:09] ehm the ubuntu installer 16.04 can boot in uefi mode... [12:09] !uefi [12:09] UEFI is a specification that defines a software interface between an operating system and platform firmware. It is meant as a replacement for the BIOS. For information on how to set up and install Ubuntu and its derivatives on UEFI machines please read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI [12:09] I know that [12:09] since it uses systemd [12:09] not sure why it boots legacy, maybe someone else can answer that [12:10] alright, thanks for the anwer oerheks [12:16] Mentioned earlier that I've been working on getting a debootstrap'd chroot going, with no success. [12:17] Getting errors about symlink size changes. [12:17] Reproduce: http://paste.ubuntu.com/25182414/ [12:17] Error message is: [12:22] dpkg: error processing archive /var/cache/apt/archives/coreutils_8.21-1ubuntu5.4_amd64.deb (--unpack): [12:22] symbolic link '/usr/bin/touch' size has changed from 51 to 10 === KindTwo is now known as KindOne [12:31] Hello! [12:31] when will 17.05 be released? [12:31] :) [12:31] does anyone know? [12:31]