[00:17] <saitoh183> Anyone here?
[00:19] <saitoh183> I'm having a issue with my headless server. The root (/) is at 100% and I can't find whatis eating all the space
[00:19] <saitoh183> I have a plexdata folder that is around 40gb but it is on another partition
[00:20] <Bashing-om> saitoh183: One palce to start is ' df -h ; df -i ' . Maybe out of inodes ??
[00:22] <saitoh183> Bashing-om what is inodes.. I can google it.. Might be that..
[00:24] <Bashing-om> saitoh183: inodes are the data structures are adressed . No address no means to access data .
[00:25] <saitoh183> Ok how do I check?
[00:26] <Bashing-om> saitoh183: ' df -i ' .. where the (i)nodes are evaluated and reported .
[00:32] <saitoh183> Bashing-om thanks it is that... From my rclone mount
[00:35] <Bashing-om> saitoh183: All you can do at this point when out of inodes is delete files . A small file takes as many inodes as a large file . IF you re-partition one can specify a larger inode alotment .
[00:36] <donofrio> how do I see all the commands run my the ubuntu installer?
[00:38] <Bashing-om> donofrio: Have a look in the /var/log/installer directory .
[00:40] <donofrio> Bashing-om, guess I'm missing xauthority file....was looking for how the script laysout/builds that file
[00:40] <saitoh183> Bashing-om thanks
[00:44] <Bashing-om> donofrio: .Xauthority ? note the dot and upper case x .
[00:46] <donofrio> Bashing-om, yah that file
[00:48] <Bashing-om> donofrio: So what is the issue ? Best I recall if you have not accessed a GUI desktop the .Xauthority file does not exist .
[00:48] <[n0mad]> i'm pretty sure you wouldn't have that file from install since everything i find online indicates it's not been installed since at least 10.10
[00:49] <Bashing-om> [n0mad]: " ls -al .Xauthority
[00:49] <Bashing-om> >> -rw------- 1 sysop sysop 50 Jul 26 12:24 .Xauthority ".
[00:49] <[n0mad]> i don't have one
[00:50] <Bashing-om> [n0mad]: Running a GUI ?
[00:50] <[n0mad]> yes, i'm running ubuntu gnome 16.04
[00:50] <[n0mad]> i saw some mention of that file the other day and couldn't find it, don't remember what i was doing
[00:51] <[n0mad]> https://askubuntu.com/questions/21923/how-do-i-create-the-xauthority-file
[00:51] <[n0mad]> that's from 2011
[00:52] <[n0mad]> "In Ubuntu 10.10 there's no longer a ~/.Xauthority file."
[00:52] <donofrio> Bashing-om, I'm using this as my daily driver (https://1drv.ms/f/s!AsBlZbBf72iNmf1YPFEhsyp8hw50uA) at work, and I'm unable to start firefox though an ssh -Y tunnel so I guess I just need to create this file...
[00:52] <glitsj16> [n0mad]: maybe running wayland? would make sense not having that file
[00:52] <donofrio> xfce4 fwiw.....on both desktops's
[00:53] <donofrio> my home ubuntu 16.04 works....xfce4
[00:53] <donofrio> work one doesn't
[00:53] <[n0mad]> you might check that link i posted. it talks about SSH and the .Xauthority
[00:54] <[n0mad]> glitsj16: i'm just running default ubuntu gnome 16.04, that's all i can tell ya
[00:54] <donofrio> [n0mad], K I'll review
[00:55] <glitsj16> [n0mad]: oh no problem, just wondering what might be possible having no ~/.Xauthority yet using a GUI
[00:55] <Bashing-om> [n0mad]: Then that file must exist . my 17.04 gmome : " sysop@x1604:~$ ls -al /media/sysop/ubie1704/home/sysop1/.Xauthority >> -rw------- 1 sysop sysop 100 Jul 23 11:43 /media/sysop/ubie1704/home/sysop1/.Xauthority " .
[00:56] <COLOUR_BLUE> hi?
[00:56] <COLOUR_BLUE> hallo!
[00:57] <COLOUR_BLUE> hallo?
[00:57] <[n0mad]> not sure what to tell you. i'm just going by what that article states. it seems that file can be created by other means
[00:57] <[n0mad]> i definitely don't have one
[00:57] <COLOUR_BLUE> what?
[00:58] <donofrio> Bashing-om, what script runs each time I start/login to my ubuntu 16.04 install cause it is craeted today (seems like this is something that is needed each time?)
[00:58] <COLOUR_BLUE> login
[00:58] <donofrio> I am
[00:58] <donofrio> hence my screenshot
[00:59] <COLOUR_BLUE> .
[00:59] <COLOUR_BLUE> .
[00:59] <COLOUR_BLUE> hallo?
[00:59] <donofrio> o.0
[01:00] <COLOUR_BLUE> What are you talking about?
[01:00] <donofrio> who me, the lack of ablity to run remote x11 applications cause I have no .Xauthority file
[01:01] <[n0mad]> donofrio: that article states that you can ssh -X user@host and it will complain about the file missing but will create it. not sure if that's the case but may be worth a shot
[01:02] <donofrio> [n0mad], with that I get "Warning: No xauth data; using fake authentication data for X11 forwarding."
[01:02] <[n0mad]> do you have the 3 settings set the way it indicates?
[01:02] <donofrio> and then I get "connect /tmp/.X11-unix/X0: No such file or directory connect /tmp/.X11-unix/X0: No such file or directory Error: cannot open display: localhost:11.0
[01:03] <donofrio> I always use ssh -Y when done from my home desktop install it works, and it does have .Xauthority but from my boxes at work it doesn't work, and I have no .Xauthority
[01:04] <COLOUR_BLUE> i come again!
[01:04] <donofrio> work ubuntu's are 14.04 fwiw
[01:04] <COLOUR_BLUE> Do you know xubuntu?
[01:04] <Bashing-om> donofrio: Need clarification here as to what we are working with . ubuntu/xfce4 as the means to start are mutually exclusive.
[01:04] <donofrio> COLOUR_BLUE, just ask your question
[01:05] <COLOUR_BLUE> .
[01:05] <donofrio> Bashing-om, uh at home it's 16.04 and ssh tunnel works, at work its 14.04 and its not working
[01:07] <[n0mad]> i didn't really find much info on creating the file beyond what that article suggests in a few different forum pages
[01:07] <[n0mad]> sorry
[01:07] <Bashing-om> donofrio: I am having difficulties keeping straight what the reference is . IRT my last was in repect to " what script runs each time I start/login to my ubuntu 16.04 install " depending on what you are running is what scripts get called to start the DE .
[01:08] <donofrio> [n0mad], no big thing I know things take time.....been iirc'ing for almost three decades now
[01:08] <hehehe> https://pastebin.com/8DcrycAw
[01:08] <hehehe> weird mistake
[01:08] <COLOUR_BLUE> how to let my xubuntu more pretty?
[01:08] <COLOUR_BLUE> and
[01:08] <COLOUR_BLUE> how to install xfce theme
[01:08] <COLOUR_BLUE> ???
[01:09] <donofrio> COLOUR_BLUE, I just apt-get install xfce4* -y
[01:09] <COLOUR_BLUE> sudo?
[01:09] <donofrio> yah
[01:09] <COLOUR_BLUE> sudo apt-get ?
[01:09] <COLOUR_BLUE> ok
[01:09] <COLOUR_BLUE> thanks
[01:09] <hggdh> COLOUR_BLUE: please do not use ENTER as punctiation
[01:10] <COLOUR_BLUE> i know
[01:10] <hggdh> so please stop
[01:10] <COLOUR_BLUE> ok...
[01:11] <COLOUR_BLUE> i am an impetuous person...
[01:11] <COLOUR_BLUE> sorry..
[01:11] <hehehe> i dont see any issue
[01:11] <hehehe> dont like use ignore :)
[01:11] <COLOUR_BLUE> bye!
[01:12] <hehehe> eee
[01:12] <COLOUR_BLUE> wait....i want to ask:how many people is using Xubuntu?
[01:13] <gogereaver> yo
[01:13] <hggdh> COLOUR_BLUE: this would be a better question for the #xubuntu channel
[01:13] <hehehe> :))
[01:13] <hggdh> I would personally expect Xubuntu to have many users
[01:13] <COLOUR_BLUE> ok...
[01:13] <COLOUR_BLUE> bye
[01:13] <hehehe> hey gogereaver
[01:16] <donofrio> Bashing-om, keep in context this is what I am running at work.... https://apaste.info/D5P4
[01:18] <hehehe> donofrio: any ideas about my error?
[01:18] <donofrio> hehehe, didn't see error just looked like missing client command
[01:19] <hehehe> it says mongo is not installed
[01:19] <donofrio> maybe I skimmed too fast
[01:19] <hehehe> when I install it
[01:19] <donofrio> yah I seen that
[01:19] <Bashing-om> donofrio: K; looking . .ICEAuthority is used for client to client, while .Xauthority is for client to server. Checj also that .ICEauthority exists .
[01:19] <hehehe> it says its already installed!
[01:19] <donofrio> checking
[01:19] <hehehe> kl
[01:19] <kromwell> Hi there. I'm trying to connect to the db using vichan-devel and I'm getting "Database error: SQLSTATE[HY000] [2002] Connection refused
[01:19] <kromwell> "
[01:19] <kromwell> after installation
[01:20] <hehehe> it says its installed but then The program 'mongo' is currently not installed. You can install it by typing:
[01:20] <donofrio> Bashing-om, yes I have ice at home and one at work....
[01:20] <kromwell> I'm using mysql
[01:20] <kromwell> btw
[01:20] <donofrio> wait turns out I do have xauthority after all...
[01:20] <hehehe> kromwell: so ask ther
[01:20] <hehehe> :)
[01:20] <hehehe> there
[01:20] <donofrio> I'm still lost as to why ssh -Y will not start firefox though the tunnel...
[01:21] <hehehe> donofrio: what can be wrong with error I have?
[01:21] <hehehe> or you dont know?
[01:21] <donofrio> hehehe, dunno looked right perhaps #mongo?
[01:22] <hehehe> https://stackoverflow.com/questions/20503366/installed-mongodb-on-ubuntu-says-its-not-installed
[01:22] <hehehe> something like this I think
[01:22] <hggdh> hehehe: is there a /usr/bin/mongo?
[01:23] <hehehe> hrr in fact no
[01:25] <hggdh> hehehe: on a pastebin, show us (1) your Ubuntu version (lsb_release -r); (2) the output of dpkg -L mongodb-clients
[01:25] <hehehe> ok
[01:25] <COLOUR_BLUE> hi
[01:26] <donofrio> Bashing-om, do you run x11 apps though ssh?  just wondering....thank you for helping me out tonight such an awesome channel ;)
[01:29] <hehehe> Release:	16.04 https://pastebin.com/pheqe3dq
[01:30] <[n0mad]> so weird. i can ssh -X and run apps just fine with no .Xauthority. wonder what the difference is.
[01:30] <hehehe> what I did after I apt-ger purge mongo before installing again , I also deleted mongo in /usr/bin
[01:30] <hehehe> thinking that new install will re create it
[01:31] <hehehe> i should of used dpkg to remove right?
[01:31] <unholymachine> hey , i'm trying to find the FULL documentation of preseed d-i, ubiquity, and oem-config directives. anyone have a good place where i can find them? the debian handbook only covers a few of them , not all.
[01:37] <notaswengr> anyone know how to use loopback audio
[01:39] <donofrio> [n0mad], I was just told a decade ago to start using it...and stop using -X
[01:39] <Bashing-om> donofrio: No, I have no X forwarding . Now-a-days I only have this single box to contend with .
[01:40] <donofrio> ok well I'll lurk like always if anyone knows anything I should try type it and I thank you.....
[01:41] <hehehe> fixed
[01:41] <hehehe> used dpkg to -r
[01:41] <hehehe> and reinstall
[01:41] <tekisui> hello
[01:41] <tekisui> any good ubuntu smurfphones around ?
[01:41] <tekisui> can´t you just format adnoird system and install ubuntu 1 ?
[01:51] <glitsj16> unholymachine: https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/installation-guide/amd64/index.html might be a good place to start, if you haven't seen it already..
[01:51] <unholymachine> yes i've seen it already
[01:51] <unholymachine> it doesn't cover all of the arguments
[01:52] <glitsj16> unholymachine: there was someone else inquiring into preseeding a few days ago, never found much else at the time i'm afraid
[01:55] <donofrio> Bashing-om, (Debug output) working ssh -Y tunnel for firefox x11 forwarded setup at https://apaste.info/DqYI broken work setup at https://apaste.info/EPLd
[01:55] <ShaRose> So, any bets on how long it'll take for ubuntu to get zfs 0.7?
[01:55] <ShaRose> https://github.com/zfsonlinux/zfs/releases/tag/zfs-0.7.0 etc
[01:56] <bazhang> ShaRose, any actual support issues, or just want to chit chat
[01:56] <ShaRose> Not really support, it adds a bunch of features mostly
[01:57] <bazhang> ShaRose, try a chat channel please, this is support only
[02:01] <Bashing-om> donofrio: This might be better addressed in the #ubuntu-on-windows channel ?
[02:01] <Bashing-om> !ubuwin | donofrio
[02:03] <donofrio> Bashing-om, there is no-one but one fellow that is there ever of the 10 lurkers, this room is over flowing....I'm sure 14.04 is 14.04 ubuntu
[02:05] <Bashing-om> donofrio: However, are you not attempting to forward to the work xfce4 install that is on a Windows system ?
[02:07] <donofrio> I'm on two desktop's that are both WSL installs with 14.04 from Microsoft store, apt-get'ed xfce4 use that daily, admin jboss using ssh tunnel and run firefox to 127.0.0.1 website....but now at work it's not working cause I'm missing something silly I'm betting....
[02:44] <netcrash> Hello, What version of ubuntu will lose unity and bring back gnome?
[02:49] <wudo_honour> hi, anybody here ?
[02:50] <aatish910> I have setup ufw to nat my PPPOE connection with before.rules. Found that the interface ppp0 is not yet created when ufw starts and thus Natting fails until I restart ufw.
[02:50] <aatish910> What can I do?
[02:50] <wudo_honour> install ubuntu 12.04 , always ask me to choice "continue withdout default router" , how to skip this
[02:51] <wudo_honour> I try to set netcfg/no_default_route boolean true, but It's not working  .
[02:53] <[n0mad]> 12.04 is EOL
[02:53] <wudo_honour> by the way , I use the pxe to install ubuntu 12.04
[02:54] <wudo_honour> so , I have meet  many times with the problem
[02:55] <maxcell_> hi
[02:57] <maxcell_> i have a weird problem
[02:58] <maxcell_> im using ubuntu 17.04 and when i type my imput lag and the words appear all at the same time.
[02:59] <wudo_honour>  df
[02:59] <maxcell_> im experiencing this problem with all distros i've tried till now
[02:59] <notdaniel> maxcell_, check your logs, see what's causing problems
[02:59] <wudo_honour> df
[02:59] <maxcell_> notdaniel, let me loggin into the ubuntu
[02:59] <maxcell_> brb
[02:59] <notdaniel> maxcell_, might be some sort of driver issue, if it's on multiple distros. what computer is it?
[03:01] <maxcell_> hi
[03:02] <maxcell_> what logs?
[03:03] <maxcell_> when i open the terminal now, i type apt-get and it frozen and then it appears all at the same time. It keeps doing that every once in a while.
[03:03] <maxcell_> some distros do it more than others
[03:08] <maxcell_> notdaniel, what logs?
[03:09] <Mittens> #ubuntu-ko
[03:19] <notdaniel> maxcell_, if this happens frequently enough, run 'journalctl -f' in a window (which will output some logs in real-time), open another window, see if the problem occurs, and notice what journalctl spits out while it's happening
[03:22] <maxcell_> notdaniel, thanks
[03:25] <notdaniel> maxcell_, my guess is your lag is being caused by something hanging and very likely spitting out the reasons why. does cpu hang and such too?
[03:26] <notdaniel> maxcell_, also google around the computer youre using, might have a driver/hardware issue. some newer laptops and such require something specific
[03:27] <notdaniel> which if youve tried many distros, sounds likely. if youre using ubuntu desktop, you can see if anything turns up in the Additional Drivers app
[03:27] <maxcell_> notdaniel, its a normal PC, i5-2500 intel with nvidia card installed
[03:27] <notdaniel> my laptop for instance needs a proprietary driver for most acpi stuff to function correctly
[03:28] <notdaniel> maxcell_, nvidia cards can be a real hassle to set up with ubuntu, but generally the problem there is ubuntu just wont boot properly without the right drivers
[03:58] <hanasaki> what can be used to block URLs, scan downloads for virus and block pages based on content?  http and https
[04:01] <[n0mad]> these links may provide you more info https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ParentalControls ; https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Antivirus
[04:03] <hanasaki> looks like dansguardian.. however it is OLD .  there is a fork.. e2guardian... not sure about htat
[04:04] <amicrawler> can any body help me
[04:04] <amicrawler> plex see my drive but does not see any folders in it
[04:24] <[n0mad]> amicrawler: i'm actually getting off of here but you're having a permissions issue. best reference I can give is https://support.plex.tv/hc/en-us/articles/200288596-Linux-Permissions-Guide
[04:24] <[n0mad]> or you could do what I did and not run as the plex user http://jhshi.me/2015/12/05/run-plex-media-server-as-another-user-in-ubuntu/index.html
[04:24] <amicrawler> i fixed it easy
[04:25] <amicrawler> works just fine now
[04:25] <[n0mad]> cool
[04:25] <amicrawler> pain
[04:25] <amicrawler> but gtg now
[04:36] <xtrmrbl> hello anybody here, need some help with ubuntu-java-eclipse
[04:37] <lotuspsychje> !ask | xtrmrbl
[05:16] <xtrmrbl> eclipse unable to start giving error JVM terminated exit code =1 , details-> https://pastebin.com/Tyz5pstB   , please help , i am already late for my assignment
[05:21] <Mittens> :D
[05:29] <lotuspsychje> xtrmrbl: there is an #eclipse channel also if you like
[05:42] <sonu_nk> hi ...  i am trying to enable :URL rewriting is not properly configured on your server.
[05:42] <sonu_nk> but everytime no luck
[05:51] <lotuspsychje> !details | sonu_nk
[06:33] <maxcell_> hi, so
[06:33] <maxcell_> i have a problem
[06:35] <maxcell_> with xorg and gnome
[06:35] <maxcell_> someone would be interested to help me?
[06:37] <Mittens> #freenode
[06:37] <geirha> !ask
[06:39] <lotuspsychje> Mittens: ?
[06:40] <Mittens> hi lotuspsychje
[06:55] <MittensAFK> #vegan ##vegan
[06:56] <lotuspsychje> MittensAFK: to join a channel type /join #channel
[06:56] <MittensAFK> lotuspsychje :D wow
[06:56] <MittensAFK> thank you!!!
[06:56] <MittensAFK> I will do that from now on
[07:08] <SchrodingersScat> !alis | MittensAFK: and if the # ## was an attempt to search for channels, try alis bot, you should be able to filter channels on freenode for something like 'vegan'
[07:13] <RahulAN> Hi All
[07:13] <RahulAN> I am trying to downgrade package
[07:14] <RahulAN> is it possible to do ?
[07:14] <RahulAN> I want to install https://launchpad.net/~paulo-miguel-dias/+archive/ubuntu/mesa/+build/13130480 this build
[07:14] <MittensAFK> SchrodingersScat and ubottu thank you!
[07:15] <MittensAFK> SchrodingersScat: downloaded Ubuntu! <3 Thanks again for your help. Loving the simple intuitive interface. xD
[07:16] <RahulAN> any idea ???
[07:22] <miracle> hi. i am newbie in linux. i use unutnu livecd 16.04  . i want create lvm on hdd, but i dont have any entry in system-config-lvm . how i can repair it?
[07:29] <abb4s> hey every body , i setted up vsftpd on a linux-box , and i setted the chroot of my user to somewhere like this : /var/www/html/upload . but there is a problem by connecting to it with ubuntu "connect to server" . it redirect me to user home path !!!!!!!!!!!!! when is use filezila it redirect to correct chroot path . where is the problem
[07:29] <abb4s> ?
[07:33] <necrophcodr> interresting issue: if I, on trusty, set up a debootstrap'd chroot and then run dist-upgrade, it fails due to symlinks
[07:33] <necrophcodr> or rather
[07:34] <necrophcodr> dpkg: error processing archive /var/cache/apt/archives/libc6_2.19-0ubuntu6.13_amd64.deb (--unpack):
[07:34] <necrophcodr>  symbolic link '/lib64/ld-linux-x86-64.so.2' size has changed from 78 to 32
[07:34] <necrophcodr> the setup process is simply running `fakeroot fakechroot debootstrap trusty tmp/dir http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu`
[07:34] <necrophcodr> then when that finishes, i use proot to establish a user chroot:
[07:35] <necrophcodr> `proot -b /dev -b /proc -b /sys -b /etc/resolv.conf -b tmp/dir/:/ -w / -0 /bin/bash`
[07:35] <necrophcodr> in that shell, i then add the correct /etc/apt/sources.list file from a standard non-modified trusty install, update, then run dist-upgrade
[07:36] <necrophcodr> Does anyone know how to solve this issue? Or troubleshoot it?
[07:42] <necrophcodr> I'll post full steps to reproduce in a minute or two
[08:25] <Dirkos> I have some issues on my machine. My load keeps way too high with almost all my services disabled but no idea where its coming from
[08:26] <Dirkos> load average: 2.66, 3.09, 2.76
[08:27] <Dirkos> But no idea where to look next at this point
[08:28] <necrophcodr> reproducable steps: http://paste.ubuntu.com/25182414/
[08:28] <necrophcodr> Dirkos, have you tried installing xfce4-taskmanager and sorting by CPU usage?
[08:29] <Dirkos> necrophcodr: i have htop though
[08:29] <necrophcodr> Dirkos, then sort with htop. What is using the most CPU?
[08:29] <Dirkos> There are no processes with high CPU necrophcodr
[08:29] <necrophcodr> Dirkos, If it's not a lot, you might want to go into setup, and add the IO_RATES column, and sort by that
[08:30] <necrophcodr> That can sometimes give an indication of iowait
[08:30] <Dirkos> i cant at htop i believe?
[08:30] <Dirkos> there is no IORATES column
[08:30] <necrophcodr> Dirkos, there should be, but you need to press F2 to go to setup
[08:31] <necrophcodr> Then go to Columns, Available Columns, scroll down to IO_RATE, and press F5
[08:31] <Dirkos> not listed
[08:31] <necrophcodr> then press F10, and press F6 to sort, and select IO
[08:31] <Dirkos> an nvm wait
[08:34] <Dirkos> sshd and htop causing most IO
[08:34] <Dirkos> so seems normal right
[08:37] <Dirkos> so im really stuck now haha
[08:39] <yosefrow> hey guys, I updated from 14.04 to 16.04 and now i cant see my panel. anybody know why?
[08:40] <yosefrow> unity works but the panel with the time on it and indicators is gone
[08:40] <yosefrow> also unity shortcuts like ctrl-alt-t sotpped working
[08:42] <necrophcodr> Dirkos, i guess you might try to open `top -H`, press f, and go to S, then press s, q, and then Shift+R to reverse sorting. Then look for the row S and see if it says R or D
[08:42] <necrophcodr> Dirkos, it's explained furthere here: https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/116849/why-load-is-high-despite-the-fact-that-neither-cpu-or-disk-is-overused/116865#116865
[08:42] <necrophcodr> Basically
[08:42] <necrophcodr> f the process shows a D, that means "uninterruptable sleep". Usually this is caused when the process is waiting on I/O (disk, network, etc).
[08:42] <necrophcodr> f the process shows a R, that means it's just doing normal computation.
[08:43] <necrophcodr> That's just a bit of Google Fu
[09:22] <Dirkos>  landscape-sysinfo keeps pulling 80% CPU]
[09:22] <Dirkos> what is this process?
[09:22] <Dirkos> it collects data i see but how can it be that slow if it is
[09:36] <trijntje_> I'm connected to wifi with an external dongle, but every connection keeps timing out. How can I get wifi to work on my pc (ubuntu 16.04.02)
[09:37] <oerheks> trijntje_, most connection issues are related to wireless N, what wifi adapter exactly?
[09:39] <trijntje_> oerheks: its a Realtek Edimax card, 7392:7811
[09:41] <oerheks> ah, the "rtl8192cu"
[09:43] <trijntje__> oerheks: lsusb shows it as Realtek RTL8188CUS
[09:44] <necrophcodr> Dirkos, https://landscape.canonical.com/
[09:44] <trijntje__> the same card is working fine on another pc, I'm currently attempting to install the latest updates, which is the only thing I cna think of
[09:44] <necrophcodr> Dirkos, it's probably part of your landscape infrastructure. Or you enabled Landscape during installation without setting it up.
[09:46] <oerheks> trijntje, ok i see 3 posts with the same fixes, to build a dkms  https://askubuntu.com/questions/612649/edimax-ew-7811un-wifi-adapter-not-working-on-ubuntu-14-04-lts +++  https://forum.ubuntuusers.de/topic/wlan-stick-524440/3/#post-5638107
[09:47] <oerheks> trijntje__, if that does not solve, trottle back to wifi A/B/G
[09:47] <BigBangUDR> Hello all need help regarding kernel panic in 14.04 issue - http://imgur.com/a/3oKAQ
[09:47] <oerheks> necrophcodr, landscape-sysinfo is a debian package, not related to the ubuntu landscape tool
[09:48] <necrophcodr> oerheks, really? wow, i'm retarded. i'm so sorry Dirkos
[09:48] <oerheks> necrophcodr, your thought was mine too :-D
[09:48] <Dirkos> oerheks: but why can it generate such an high load?
[09:49] <elacheche> Hey folks! I'm tying to use a Live USB on a laptop that have bad HD, is there a way to ignore the HD during the live session boot?
[09:49] <oerheks> Dirkos, no idea, maybe you see other processes with high load too in top/htop? or maybe zombies even?
[09:49] <trijntje__> elacheche: you can set the boot device in the bios, just set it to boot from the usb
[09:50] <linocisco> hi all
[09:50] <trijntje__> elacheche: however, if you plan to recover  the data please take some time to make sure you know what you are doing. Just going in and starting to copy files could make things worse
[09:51] <elacheche> trijntje__: I can boot from the USB, but when loading the OS for the live session it keeps reading the HD, as it's damaged, the live session won't boot
[09:51] <linocisco> I got USB flash drive plugged in to 16.04 x64 bit Laptop. When I tried to create a folder, the drive disappeared.
[09:52] <trijntje__> elacheche: really? that is very bad. Best to disconnect the harddisk before it gets trashed by whatever insists on mounting it on the live system.
[09:52] <Dirkos> oerheks: not really, even restarted machine to get rid of all the mess
[09:53] <elacheche> :/ Thanks trijntje__
[09:54] <jackhum> i want to make some sort of python script that can send me notification at some certain time , any help?
[09:54] <linocisco> it is now appeared and disappeared frequently.
[09:54] <trijntje__> oerheks: looks like updating from 4.4.0-83 to 4.4.0-87 solved the wifi problem
[09:54] <BigBangUDR> join #ubuntu-kernel
[09:56] <Richard_Cavell> Hi everyone. I'm on Ubuntu 16.04.  Is there an "upgrade" for this release?  I'm being prompted to perform a partial upgrade.
[09:58] <ppf> Richard_Cavell: 16.04 is an LTS release
[09:58] <ppf> there is no newer LTS version
[10:00] <Richard_Cavell> Well Software Update just made me do a "partial upgrade", and I'm still on 16.04.2 according to uname -a
[10:01] <trijntje__> Richard_Cavell: thats probably because it could not update all packages, can you run sudo apt update && sudo apt upgrade -y
[10:01] <trijntje__> oerheks: ignore that, I still have the disconnect problem
[10:02] <Richard_Cavell> trijntje__: There's one package called nestopia that I don't want upgraded. I got it from a PPA.
[10:17] <wudo_honour> hi,
[10:18] <wudo_honour> how to skip 'continue withdout default router' when install ubuntu12.04 with pxe
[10:20] <wudo_honour> have anybody make the sense?
[10:22] <wudo_honour> I have used the d-i netcf/no-default-route boolean true , but it does not work
[10:39] <glitsj16> wudo_honour: https://askubuntu.com/questions/201748/continue-without-a-default-route might offer some insight
[10:42] <Hanumaan> I'm trying to create /usr partition as existing / partition is run out of space. I have copied contents of /usr to new parition created and specified in fstab but now how to delete the contents of /usr under / partition?
[10:43] <vlt> Hanumaan: Are you doing this while running?
[10:43] <Hanumaan> vlt, yes it is on a virtual machine
[10:43] <vlt> VM shouldn’t matter,
[10:44] <vlt> There might be a more appropriate way but I’d mount the new file system over /mnt
[10:44] <vlt> first
[10:45] <vlt> Then mount the / file system a second time somewhere else and delete /usr/* from it.
[10:45] <vlt> All running processes that stil use files on the old /usr will keep their files provided by the kernel.
[10:46] <vlt> So you might not instantly get _all_ of the expected free space.
[10:46] <vlt> For the "somewhere else" part you could use mount -o bind
[10:47] <Hanumaan> vlt, so / can be mounted second time? something like "sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt/secondslash"
[10:47] <Hanumaan> vlt, ok
[10:49] <Hanumaan> vlt, so in my case then I have to delete /mnt/secondslash/usr/*
[10:50] <vlt> Hanumaan: Should work.
[10:53] <vlt> Hanumaan: To make sure you delete the correct files,
[10:53] <vlt> you could create a file on the old /usr/ like /usr/THIS_IS_OLD and one on the new.
[11:01] <alexas> how can i limit the width of the text I read in fullscreen terminal, ubuntu 16, i don't need it all 16:9 size, half of it would be enoug
[11:01] <alexas> enough*
[11:03] <vlt> alexas: tmux and vetical split, for example.
[11:17] <soee_> hi, is this some lates xorg update issue in Xenial http://paste.ubuntu.com/25182640/ ?
[11:20] <oerheks> soee_, good question, i see the update llvm3.8 to llvm4.0, maybe that explains the huge update
[11:20] <oerheks> did you run apt update before this?
[11:20] <soee_> oerheks: yes
[11:20] <oerheks> oke, i think this is alright then, considering the HWE
[11:21] <janisozaur> hi, I have a question about releasing/packaging things
[11:22] <janisozaur> i'd like to provide binary packages that are built with C++17, only available with GCC7/clang4
[11:22] <janisozaur> what would be the best approach to distributing such binaries for ubuntu 16.04?
[11:24] <oerheks> janisozaur, if this is personal, maybe starting a PPA is a choise?
[11:24] <oerheks> !ppa
[11:24] <janisozaur> have a hard requirement on the toolchain PPA? statically link libstdc++ (or libc++? don't remember which one is GCC's)? just drop support for 16.04? or something else?
[11:24] <janisozaur> oerheks: we had PPA running at some point, but maintaining it is just too hard
[11:41] <mcphail> janisozaur: Bundling everything into a snap might be the best way. Don't know how well a version on libstdc++ compiled with GCC7 would play witht he kernel, though. Would be interesting to see
[11:42] <mcphail> You don't need to statically link the libraries. Just bundle whatever you need in the snap
[11:43] <Younder> pesonally i thing SNAP is a funny way to spell BLOAT
[11:43] <poffy_> Hi there. On a default LVM encrypted install, the installer creates a 1K empty partition. Why?
[11:43] <oerheks> snap is also an idea, great answer, mcphail
[11:44] <mcphail> Younder: I'm not sure that's aprticularly constructive with regards tot he original question
[11:45] <Younder> By the way I also use anap as it eliminates problems with dependencies.
[11:45] <Younder> Eat the expense of going back to the 1980 where every application carries it's own libs.
[11:46] <mcphail> Younder: in janisozaur's case, he specifically requires a way to supply an incompatible set of libs
[11:46] <Younder> fair enough
[11:51] <BluesKaj> Hi all
[11:51] <janisozaur> i'm familiar with the concept of snap, but haven't looked into it.
[11:51] <janisozaur> how big should I expect the resulting package to be?
[11:51] <janisozaur> I'm guessing somewhere around 100-200MiB?
[11:52] <janisozaur> or, in other words: how much of the system comes packaged?
[11:52] <SchrodingersScat> BluesKaj: oh hey, welcome
[11:52] <BluesKaj> Hi SchrodingersScat
[11:53] <oerheks> planned is 18.04 will have mostly snap packages.
[11:54] <mcphail> janisozaur: basically, it'll include your binary, the dynamically linked libs and the libs your libs require. As you've postulated, in your case you'll probably need to go all the way back to libstc++ if you're using a different version of the toolchain. There's a bit of metadata to add, but not much else. So your package is going to be as big or small as it needs to be
[11:55] <mcphail> janisozaur: for many other packages you can rely on the default system libs as provided in the core snap. But you'll probably not be able to use those due to your toolchain requirements
[11:55] <janisozaur> is there a "base" image for snaps?
[11:55] <mcphail> janisozaur: there's a "core" snap which is the default runtime, yes
[11:56] <mcphail> janisozaur: the chaps in #snappy can give a bit more advice there
[11:56] <BluesKaj> hmm sounds like more confusion in the ubuntu camp
[11:56] <janisozaur> is the core snap based on ubuntu? if so, which version? will the core image be updated ever? when?
[11:57] <KeyboardNotFound> How to update my openGL driver?
[11:57] <poffy> So any idea why the installer would create such a small 1K partition?
[11:57] <mcphail> janisozaur: I think the core snap is basically Ubuntu Core (or whatever the IoT ubuntu thingy is called tehse days)
[11:57] <janisozaur> does a single snap contain all the files or is it overlay-like, where layers can be shared between snaps?
[11:58] <oerheks> poffy, can you paste the output of fdisk -l on paste.ubuntu.com? 1 k partition is odd, maybe it is an allignment issue
[11:58] <mcphail> janisozaur: beyond the core snap, no - things aren't yet shared in layers. i think there are plans for runtimes but I don't think they're there yet. Again, the #snappy chaps will be more up to date than me
[11:59] <janisozaur> ok, thanks
[12:01] <poffy> paste.ubuntu.com/25183397/
[12:05] <oerheks> poffy, so where is that 1k partition on your elementary?
[12:05] <poffy> I can paste the output of lsblk
[12:05] <poffy> which says sda2 is only 1K
[12:06] <oerheks> poffy, ah, Étendue = extended, that is a workaround for the max 4 primairy partitions
[12:06] <poffy> yep
[12:07] <poffy> ok that should answer my question
[12:07] <poffy> I am too used of UEFI
[12:07] <oerheks> it is just a partition that can hold more partitions, pretty legal
[12:07] <oerheks> yw
[12:08] <poffy> so now why is the installer choosing BIOS when UEFI is available?
[12:09] <oerheks> ehm the ubuntu installer 16.04 can boot in uefi mode...
[12:09] <oerheks> !uefi
[12:09] <poffy> I know that
[12:09] <poffy> since it uses systemd
[12:09] <oerheks> not sure why it boots legacy, maybe someone else can answer that
[12:10] <poffy> alright, thanks for the anwer oerheks
[12:16] <necrophcodr> Mentioned earlier that I've been working on getting a debootstrap'd chroot going, with no success.
[12:17] <necrophcodr> Getting errors about symlink size changes.
[12:17] <necrophcodr> Reproduce: http://paste.ubuntu.com/25182414/
[12:17] <necrophcodr> Error message is:
[12:22] <necrophcodr> dpkg: error processing archive /var/cache/apt/archives/coreutils_8.21-1ubuntu5.4_amd64.deb (--unpack):
[12:22] <necrophcodr>  symbolic link '/usr/bin/touch' size has changed from 51 to 10
[12:31] <marcoagpinto> Hello!
[12:31] <marcoagpinto> when will 17.05 be released?
[12:31] <marcoagpinto> :)
[12:31] <marcoagpinto> does anyone know?
[12:31] <marcoagpinto> to fix the Internet connectivity on VMs
[12:34] <necrophcodr> marcoagpinto, 17.04 is the latest release. The next release of Ubuntu is 17.10, in October.
[12:34] <marcoagpinto> ohhhhhhhhhhh
[12:34] <marcoagpinto> :(
[13:09] <sim642> If I want to EOL upgrade xubuntu 15.04 to 16.04, I should do the manual EOL upgrade to 15.10 first, right?
[13:11] <sewerrat> tar -cf testtar.tar /home, How would i save the testtar.tar in /tmp?
[13:11] <codecutter> [14:09:25]  <codecutter>	here is my spring setup which points to the external directory (file system) - https://pastebin.com/cFUjbz2b
[13:11] <codecutter> [14:10:02]  <codecutter>	not sure why the images aren't showing up
[13:11] <codecutter> [14:10:22]  <codecutter>	do i need to configure anything else with regards to tomcat?
[13:11] <codecutter> [14:10:48]  <codecutter>	the above seems to be sufficient on my local file system
[13:12] <EriC^^> sewerrat: tar -cf /tmp/testtar.tar /home
[13:13] <sewerrat> Thanks Eric!
[13:13] <EriC^^> sewerrat: no problem
[13:19] <ikonia> codecutter: look at the tomcat logs if it's getting hits on the images
[13:19] <Hanumaan> does anybody have experience of installing rdkit or boost in ubuntu 16.04?
[13:20] <ikonia> Hanumaan: why don't you just ask the real question
[13:27] <wiw> My sudo apt-get update is failing to download index files. Following suggestions, changing servers or fixing the sources.list file don't help either. Any takers wanna have a crack at this?
[13:27] <necrophcodr> Hanumaan, you should be able to install them using `apt` and use them straight away I believe.
[13:27] <necrophcodr> But I don't have experience using them.
[13:28] <necrophcodr> wiw, what errors are you presented with exactly? could you upload a full example of output from running the command, to paste.ubuntu.com ?
[13:28] <ikonia> wiw: whatis the error you get
[13:29] <wiw> http://paste.ubuntu.com/25183759/  -  I should probably mention I'm running Lubuntu (I'm asking here because I'm almost certain this is not an issue for that reason)
[13:29] <ikonia> lucid is EOL
[13:30] <ikonia> thats why
[13:30] <ikonia> the release has been retired
[13:31] <necrophcodr> wiw, what ikonia wrote. Ubuntu 10.04 is no longer supported, and hasn't been for years.
[13:31] <Hanumaan> ikonia, necrophcodr, sorry was about to give the paste but just computer got hanged in couple of minutes
[13:31] <necrophcodr> wiw, Ubuntu 10.04 EOL for desktop was May 9 2013
[13:31] <wiw> I'm reading that I'm on Ubuntu 16.04 xenial I'm positive I'm not running 10.04
[13:32] <necrophcodr> wiw, your errors say otherwise. what is the output of `lsb_release -sc`?
[13:32] <necrophcodr> perhaps the sources.list file needs to be changed a bit
[13:32] <wiw> 'xenial'
[13:32] <wiw> (is output of lsb_release -sc)
[13:33] <necrophcodr> wiw, then you might want to open the sources.list file and change all occurences of "lucid" to "xenial" and re-run the update command.
[13:33] <wiw> ok i'll try that thanks
[13:33] <ikonia> wiw: your repos say lucid
[13:33] <mzaza> Any recommendations on best way to create jailed SSH access on shared server
[13:33] <necrophcodr> ikonia, but his distribution says xenial. it could simply be a matter of some incorrect sources.list file.
[13:34] <ikonia> necrophcodr: that seems unlikley
[13:35] <ikonia> as how could it get to that release
[13:35] <wiw> could it have to do with having recently running a command - i forget exactly what it was but something with auto remove? i think the output from previous apt-get updates would tell me i had unused images or something and i should consider running a command with auto remove or something..
[13:35] <sim642> Is it possible to upgrade xubuntu 15.04 -> 15.10?
[13:35] <necrophcodr> wiw, after changing the sources.list file and running update, please report back if there are any further errors or not, before moving on
[13:36] <ikonia> wiw: there is no apt-get command that will change your sources.list
[13:38] <wiw> that definitely worked, thanks for the help and patience :)
[13:38] <wiw> much appreciated necrophcodr and ikonia
[13:38] <necrophcodr> wiw, pay attention to your future upgrade and dist-upgrade commands, and ensure that it doesn't break your system
[13:38] <necrophcodr> wiw, one command working is no guarantee that the following will
[13:39] <wiw> ok i can't recall ever using dist-upgrade commands, but i'll pay more attention in the future
[13:39] <Hanumaan> getting this error while building and installing rdkit : http://paste.ubuntu.com/25183803/ (procedure used is kept at the second half)
[13:41] <necrophcodr> Hanumaan, any reason you're not running `apt get install librdkit1-dev`?
[13:42] <necrophcodr> Sorry, that's `apt install librdkit-dev`, i mistyped
[13:43] <wiw> thanks once again internet heroes :)
[13:43] <necrophcodr> wiw, no problem, enjoy your lubuntu system :D
[13:43] <Hanumaan> necrophcor, wanted to have the latest version ..
[13:44] <nejni-marji> I'm running Ubuntu 16.04 on my odroid and I'm having trouble setting the system locale
[13:44] <nejni-marji> how should I go about doing it?
[13:47] <tekisui> Is there a good ubuntu o/s phone ?
[13:47] <necrophcodr> Hanumaan, well the error is pretty clear, but i'm not sure which version of boost you're using?
[13:47] <tekisui> couldn´t i just format android and install ubuntu 1 ?
[13:47] <tekisui> or format a windows phone ?
[14:05] <oerheks> tekisui, join #ubports for ubuntu on phone
[14:05] <tekisui> thanks
[14:10] <Hanumaan> necropcodr, tried boost 1.64 and 1.63 .. and looks like I messed up both the things
[14:10] <Hanumaan> necrophcodr:
[14:12] <necrophcodr> Hanumaan, how do you figure you messed them up?
[14:13] <jakeri> hello
[14:13] <jakeri> I'm trying to create a bootable floppy, how can i do this :/
[14:14] <jakeri> for some reason the write image to drive tool doesn't allow me to write from floppy.img to floppydrive
[14:16] <Southern_Gentlem> jakeri,  dd to the floppy
[14:16] <Southern_Gentlem> but sure you are using the correct /dev name
[14:16] <Hanumaan> necrophcodr: because I just kept 1.63 version on the computer but still while it is doing cmake it was showing 1.64 version .. so I did not completely removed 1.64 but already tried 1.63 and now not sure what is happening if you think procedure is fine I can try again
[14:17] <necrophcodr> Hanumaan, how exactly did you install boost? I'm not aware of the steps you took
[14:20] <jakeri> damn I've installed the os in my native language.. bad mistake
[14:20] <jakeri> half translated help for dd :D
[14:21] <jakeri> totally incomprehensible
[14:21] <BetaSoul> Hey Guys... any reason startx would result in tightvnc giving me a gray screen?
[14:23] <Hanumaan> necrophcodr: as of now all those extracted tars are deleted but these are the steps I used: http://paste.ubuntu.com/25184014/
[14:24] <jakeri> Southern_Gentlem: thanks :)
[14:24] <necrophcodr> Hanumaan, and what parameters did you feed to rdkit when installing it?
[14:25] <necrophcodr> or building it/compiling it
[14:28] <pavlos> BetaSoul: http://onkea.com/ubuntu-vnc-grey-screen/
[14:29] <BetaSoul> vies me a black screen witha  black x for  cursor
[14:29] <mzaza> I have followed the following article https://www.howtoforge.com/restricting-users-to-sftp-plus-setting-up-chrooted-ssh-sftp-debian-squeeze, in creating a jailed SSH user. The user should be able to login to shell to run some php commands, the account is intended to be handed over to the developer. However I have an AWS server which logs in using a key file, I have followed the instructions and created the
[14:29] <mzaza> user hazem, however I'm unable to login using that user because login because I get public key denied. Any ideas?
[14:37] <necrophcodr> I have to go home now, I hope you guys find solutions to your problems
[14:37] <jayjo> my machine has a popup saying "not all updates can be installed". I've restarted several times and still it comes up. after an update attempts it says to run a partial update to install as many as possible but it continues to show up
[14:38] <BetaSoul> That sucked.
[14:38] <jayjo> I am running 16.04 LTS
[14:39] <BetaSoul> Okay, now I've got some cursor.....
[14:40] <Hanumaan> necrophcodr: this is what I used for rdkit installation after boost : http://paste.ubuntu.com/25184104/
[14:41] <BetaSoul> Yeah.... so can I Start lightdm
[14:55] <BetaSoul> Still only a cross and nothing else.
[14:56] <Tekaka> hello, i am interested at trying out xubuntu 17.04 but i feel like a tried everything but nothing is working. i have no idea what i should try. i have installed a virtual box and that is showing the same error codes as if i try to install it on my pc. is it anyone that can help me? thanks.
[14:58] <Southern_Gentlem> Tekaka, the error may help
[14:59] <Tekaka> it is about 5 different errors or so but i will try to find as many as i can
[15:00] <poffy> Are snaps just statically linked packages?
[15:00] <scottjl> pretty much
[15:00] <Lucretius> sup im thinkering iìwith youtube.dl does the -f 134 format include the audio already? Thanks
[15:00] <scottjl> self-contained with everything it needs.
[15:00] <Lucretius> *youtube-dl sorry
[15:01] <poffy> so it is much like the Android apps
[15:01] <poffy> good move to go to statically linked apps
[15:01] <scottjl> poffy: well there are package format differences. also snaps, if i recall correctly, contain the binaries for multiple architectures.
[15:03] <poffy> How can they make the packages not to big? Glibc is huge if statically linked.
[15:03] <Mitchell1992> I'm having an issue with postfix, no mechanism available... anyone able to point me in the right direction?
[15:03] <Mitchell1992> for authentication
[15:04] <scottjl> poffy: https://snapcraft.io/
[15:06] <BetaSoul> So, any ideas?
[15:10] <BetaSoul> On the dead gray screne?
[15:12] <pavlos> BetaSoul: are you using gnome as your DE? see https://askubuntu.com/questions/800302/vncserver-grey-screen-ubuntu-16-04-lts
[15:13] <BetaSoul> I am, and I don't want to move to xfce.
[15:16] <pavlos> BetaSoul: the first answer (ranked 3) might work for you, see the last 4 lines
[15:16] <BetaSoul> Tried it. Resolves to a gray screen with a cursor and an x.
[15:17] <scottjl> that would be plain old X windows without any WM running.
[15:18] <scottjl> so either your WM isn't starting, or it's crashing. i'd check it's log files
[15:20] <BetaSoul> My gut says that its not starting........
[15:20] <BetaSoul> Yeah, gray screen with cursor now.
[15:20] <BetaSoul> So... how do I Start gnome as a window manager over vnc.
[15:21] <scottjl> set up an xinitrc file?
[15:21] <BetaSoul> There should be one already, as this machine runs normally.
[15:25] <zach2825> hello, does anybosy use powerline? I'm stuck on an issue. in the bash terminal its just displaying weird charecters
[15:26] <zealsham_> after innstalling mongodb on my machine i cant run the mongod command , it says "unknown job: mongod "
[15:27] <scottjl> zach2825: you need a font that supports the powerline characters.
[15:27] <BetaSoul> So I've got this error log now: https://pastebin.com/wTwZfRUf
[15:27] <scottjl> BetaSoul: i think you need to set something up for vnc to kick it off. check your vnc server setup docs. i haven't used vnc in a while
[15:27] <zach2825> its installed
[15:27] <scottjl> zach2825: and is it selected in putty or whatever you're using?
[15:27] <zealsham_> any one knows the reson why i can run the mongod command on my ubuntu
[15:28] <nacc> zealsham_: can or can't?
[15:28] <zealsham_> nacc: i cant
[15:29] <zach2825> scottjl: im just using the ubuntu terminal
[15:30] <scottjl> zach2825: check your profile. you still need to choose the font afaik
[15:30] <zach2825> scottjl: dang! that was it, thank you
[15:31] <scottjl> zach2825: welcome.
[15:31] <zach2825> was at this for about a half hour and thats all it was, lame
[15:32] <nacc> zealsham_: how are you trying to run mongod? and why are you running mongod manually instead of the service?
[15:35] <pavlos> BetaSoul: did you install vnc4server? ... this is where vncconfig is
[15:35] <BetaSoul> No, I was using tightvnc.
[15:35] <BetaSoul> I can swap.
[15:37] <zealsham_> nacc:  am building and app and neede mongodb
[15:38] <nacc> zealsham_: that wasn't my question
[15:38] <syntaks> morning folks, random system hangup leading to "failed to find a valid file for theme HighContrast" and cinnamon crashing
[15:38] <syntaks> also accompanied by inability to load GLX
[15:39] <zealsham_> nacc: am sorry i dont really get what u mean by run the service
[15:39] <nacc> zealsham_: why are you running mongod manually? Typically, you would do `sudo systemctl start mongodb`
[15:39] <designbybeck> Ubuntu isn't on this list, but Debian is. Has anyone check on this from Vault7? Has anyone seen the latest from Wikileaks on this? A fix/patch? Something to be worried about?
[15:40] <sfdebug> hi, i upgraded SmartGit on my ubuntu, but, now, when i click on the icon, it doesn't start... some one can help me?
[15:40] <nacc> designbybeck: "this"?
[15:41] <nacc> sfdebug: what is SmartGit?
[15:41] <nacc> sfdebug: is it an Ubuntu package?
[15:41] <designbybeck> nacc, https://wikileaks.org/vault7/document/Aeris-UsersGuide/page-1/
[15:41] <sfdebug> nacc, it's a program that manages git repositories...
[15:41] <nacc> designbybeck: that seems offtopic for this channel.
[15:41] <scottjl> wikileaks. might as well read the national enquirer.
[15:41] <designbybeck> nacc, where do I ask other Ubuntu users about Ubuntu security and such?
[15:42] <nacc> sfdebug: why do you need a program to manage git repositories? in any case, i don't think it's an ubuntu package, probably talk to the owner of the tooling
[15:42] <nacc> designbybeck: not in the support channel
[15:42] <nacc> designbybeck: it's not a support question, afict
[15:42] <designbybeck> ok thanks nacc
[15:43] <sfdebug> nacc, is there a way i can see what command the icon is executing?
[15:43] <nacc> sfdebug: probably right click -> info or properties or something?
[15:43] <sfdebug> nacc, no, right click just show to start it or "unlock" from the menu...
[15:45] <nacc> sfdebug: not sure
[15:46] <syntaks> strangely cinnamon or any other is acting up
[15:53] <Tivrusky_IV> So gedit is apparently no longer maintained
[15:53] <Tivrusky_IV> I just got over the fact that Unity is being dropped
[15:53] <Tivrusky_IV> 2017 is the 2016 for Ubuntu
[15:54] <jdfish> what
[15:54] <jdfish> seriously? Gedit isn't being maintained anymore?
[15:54] <Tivrusky_IV> jup
[15:54] <Tivrusky_IV> http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2017/07/gedit-text-editor-unmaintained
[15:55] <Tivrusky_IV> probably temporary
[15:55] <jdfish> yeah I just saw the GNOME wiki
[15:56] <nacc> Tivrusky_IV: not really an ubuntu issue
[15:56] <Tivrusky_IV> The perfect opportunity to get a highly coveted job / item on your CV
[16:21] <sfdebug> how do i update java?
[16:22] <sfdebug> nacc, the problem was the Java version...
[16:23] <sfdebug> does anyone know how to update Java?
[16:23] <marvin42> hi. I've ran do-release-upgrade -d in Lubuntu 16.10 and it outputs: No new release found
[16:42] <marvin42> hi. I've ran do-release-upgrade -d in Lubuntu 16.10 and it outputs: No new release found. I've sought help on articles and did as they said, to no avial. Can someone help me out?
[17:03] <nacc> !eolupgrade | marvin42
[17:03] <wyth> Ugh. So I set up a new server, created an lvm of 3 externals for media storage. I connect a 4th external to copy the media to the LVM, and that finishes and everything appears to be fine and dandy. I add the lvm to my fstab and set up samba. After a few minutes the server has locked up. Now everytime I try to mount the LVM this happens. I've tried disabling samba (which I wouldn't think would
[17:03] <wyth> be related aside from the timing), but that didn't help. I've run e2fsck on the lvm and it appears to be fine. I thought maybe I should try it on each of the individual drives to see if there is an issue there but it wouldn't run. Any suggestions on what I should try next?
[17:07] <wyth> This is Ubuntu Server 17.04 by the way
[17:11] <tomreyn> wyth: anything on the logs? how are those external disks connected?
[17:13] <tomreyn> when you say the server 'locks up', does it print a message on screen / serial console or is there no output there?
[17:13] <wyth> tomreyn: They're connected via usb3.
[17:14] <wyth> tomreyn: I'll upload a paste I got too
[17:15] <wyth> tomreyn: https://pastebin.com/Nu12wMN6
[17:16] <wyth> tomreyn: I just find it strange that it worked the entire time to copy like 7TB of data to it. But then afterwards it freezes consistently within a few seconds of trying to mount it. If there's anything else that would be helpful/shed more light I'll be happy to grab it.
[17:19] <avernos> hi, my apt has gone rogue. 741 packages to update, with a broken requirements and even clicking yes, it just exits
[17:19] <avernos> anyone can help ?
[17:21] <wyth> avernos: I feel like I had that issue before when I was screwing around with python a year or two ago. I'm pretty sure I ended up having to do a re-install. I'm by no means any expert though, just chipping in my past experience there.
[17:23] <tomreyn> wyth: i would try replacing the usb cables, or, if possible, connec tthose disks directly to the hdd controller (i.e. not via usb). if it still happens with the cables replaced, i'd file a bug report, too.
[17:24] <tomreyn> avernos: run this in a terminal and post both the commands you ran and the output they return by pasting it to a pastebin: sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-cache policy; sudo apt-get -f install
[17:24] <slee> hi, has anyone found a solution to laptop wifi constantly dropping? i'm on a fresh install, i can connect to router, but after a few minutes, i lose connection, i have to click the wifi connection for it to reconnect. i've found several articles on this online, tried them all, but i still lose connection randomly
[17:25] <slee> ...updated and upgraded, issue persists
[17:25] <wyth> tomreyn: Hm, this is a pretty small form factor minipc so I'm not sure how easily I'll be able to connect them directly. Do you know of a way to see if any of the individual drives are failing? I couldn't run e2fsck on them individually, I'm assuming because they're in an lvm
[17:28] <tomreyn> wyth: you could check their S.M.A.R.T. characteristics and run long self tests on each of them.
[17:29] <wyth> tomreyn: That sounds like a plan. Do you have a resource that details how to go about that?
[17:30] <tomreyn> slee: wlan cvonnection drops are always specific to the very driver, firmware and hardware in use there. try to gewt this information first.
[17:30] <ruid> Anyone know which linux/ubuntu program will copy a 8.5G DVD to a 4.7G movie? I'd like to do a direct copy like DVDShrink.
[17:30] <tomreyn> !smart
[17:30] <tomreyn> wyth: ^
[17:31] <scottjl> ruid: you could look at handbrake
[17:31] <scottjl> ruid: https://handbrake.fr/
[17:31] <sfdebug> hi
[17:31] <sfdebug> how do i update java in ubuntu 14.04?
[17:31] <scottjl> sfdebug: apt-get update ?
[17:31] <ruid> scottjl: I have handbrake... but I thought it only outputs the video
[17:32] <sfdebug> scottjl, just it?
[17:32] <ruid> not the menus
[17:32] <scottjl> ruid: ah you want the menus and such, that i don't know. sorry.
[17:32] <scottjl> sfdebug: well if you installed it with apt, then apt should be able to update it, yes.
[17:32] <tomreyn> °wifi | slee
[17:32] <tomreyn> !wifi | slee
[17:32] <wyth> tomreyn: Thanks!
[17:32] <sfdebug> scottjl, but will not apt update everything else, not just java?
[17:33] <sfdebug> scottjl, if i run just "apt-get update"
[17:33] <sfdebug> ?
[17:33] <scottjl> sfdebug: well you could do apt-get update java then
[17:33] <scottjl> or whatever the package name is
[17:33] <scottjl> oops upgrade
[17:34] <tomreyn> scottjl: 'apt-get update' updates package lists. 'upgrade' installs pending upgrades, does not take a package name. 'install' upgrades a given package, if an upgrade is available.
[17:34] <posi> I have this binary which is super big
[17:34] <posi> I am curious how to find out where i'm spending my space
[17:34] <scottjl> tomreyn: thanks for the correction.
[17:35] <scottjl> posi: try ncdu
[17:35] <sfdebug> tomreyn, so i must do apt-get get install java?
[17:35] <tomreyn> sfdebug: which version do you want to upgrade java to, which java actually (openjdk?), and why do you want /need to upgrade it?
[17:35] <posi> legit thanks
[17:36] <sfdebug> tomreyn, i use SmartGit... and i updated it to a newer version, but my java is 1.7 and it needs 1.8 or higher...
[17:36] <posi> scottjl: i want to understand a binary. not my drive
[17:36] <tomreyn> !info smartgit
[17:36] <scottjl> posi: then i don't understand what you're asking.
[17:36] <sfdebug> wow, i got it!
[17:36] <sfdebug> i did: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:webupd8team/java
[17:37] <sfdebug> sudo apt-get update
[17:37] <sfdebug> sudo apt-get install oracle-java8-installer
[17:37] <posi> scottjl: imagine a binary consists of many libraries... and many symbols. How do i know what the worst offenders are
[17:37] <sfdebug> from this post:
[17:37] <sfdebug> https://stackoverflow.com/questions/30177455/moving-from-jdk-1-7-to-jdk-1-8-on-ubuntu
[17:37] <scottjl> oh you mean a binary as in executable.
[17:37] <posi> yep
[17:37] <tomreyn> sfdebug: PPAs are unsupported, just in case you missed that.
[17:37] <posi> sorry
[17:37] <scottjl> posi: have you tried strip on it?
[17:37] <posi> sure
[17:37] <posi> this is for post strip
[17:38] <sfdebug> tomreyn, what do you mean by insipported?
[17:38] <posi> that gets it from 4GB to 1.2GB
[17:38] <wyth> tomreyn: Hm, running 'sudo smartctl -s on /dev/sdd' returns 'Read Device Identity failed: scsi error unsupported field in scsi command'
[17:38] <posi> i'm thinking something fancy around objdump
[17:38] <Kio_Bernard> Good afternoon everyone, can somebody perhaps help me with my Linux Ubuntu VSFTPD Server?
[17:38] <tomreyn> sfdebug: this https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SecurityTeam/FAQ#Official_Support
[17:39] <scottjl> posi: don't know then. i'm not much of a developer
[17:39] <tomreyn> sfdebug: you don't get security uüpdates, or at least those aren't provided by the ubuntu developers and security team.
[17:40] <tomreyn> wyth: that's why i'm saying it'd be better to connect the drives directly to the controller.
[17:40] <wyth> tomreyn: I see, makes good sense.
[17:42] <pavlos> Kio_Bernard: what's the issue?
[17:42] <tomreyn> !ask | Kio_Bernard
[17:44] <tomreyn> sfdebug: have you considered upgrading to 16.04 lts?
[17:44] <sfdebug> tomreyn, i have fear stop working...
[17:44] <tomreyn> this would provide you with openjdk 8 and 9 to choose from (and install side by side)
[17:44] <Kio_Bernard> Apologies for the improper format, I'm new to this channel and using IRC in general. I have set up a VSFTPD service on my Ubuntu server and I would like to have it set up to have some sort of central repository/directory that all the users can access to upload and download files from, instead of personal home directories for all the users. I have done a lot of research and have yet to find documentation or a guide that walks me t
[17:45] <tomreyn> sfdebug: that's the worst reason not to upgrade ;) you can clone the system or crease a secondary system from scratch and rebuild it with your tools there before you put the current one out of production.
[17:45] <tomreyn> *create
[17:46] <tomreyn> Kio_Bernard: your message was cut off after "walks me t".
[17:46] <scottjl> i would supposed the next word is "through"
[17:47] <sfdebug> tomreyn, i'll think about it... i'll have to change of machine from a desktop machine to a notebook, so i think i'll install 16.04 on it...
[17:47] <tomreyn> Kio_Bernard: there is a maximum # of characters you can send per line. some irc clients detect this and wrap messages accordingly. yours, in its current configuration, does not.
[17:47] <Kio_Bernard> tomreyn: "walks me through how to set this up."
[17:50] <gabrielc> Kio_Bernard: are not you going to use security on the server? can anyone overwrite (or delete) any file?
[17:51] <Kio_Bernard> gabrielc: I have FTPES and I'm setting up User accounts so no anon logins.
[17:52] <tomreyn> Kio_Bernard: i'm not personally experienced with vsftpd. i think it is usually good in seperating access. i'm not sure how good it is in making it easy to have a shared resource. you could ask in #vsftpd (i think this channel exists her eon freenode, too), or you could give proftpd a try instead, which i think would make it easier to set it up. setting up ftp servers for multi user environments is not as easy as it may seem btw. not necessarily
[17:52] <tomreyn> the best task for a beginner.
[17:53] <Southern_Gentlem> so no anon logins why not just use ssh
[17:53] <Kio_Bernard> tomreyn: although I am a software development intern my bosses give me responsibility on some IT related tasks that they oversee that need to be done for the company.
[17:54] <Southern_Gentlem> one less service and everything is encrypted
[17:54] <Kio_Bernard> Southern_Gentlem: I have TLS and SSH both configured on the server, it needs to be as secure as possible given the last FTP server was hacked by Russians.
[17:54] <Southern_Gentlem> so why have a ftp server
[17:55] <Kio_Bernard> tomreyn: Thanks for the suggestion, I might try proftpd or talk to my boss about it.
[17:55] <tomreyn> Kio_Bernard: if you want it more secure, then you definitely want to replace ftp by ssh + sftp
[17:55] <Southern_Gentlem> sftp is from ssh
[17:56] <Kio_Bernard> tomreyn: I have both SFTP and FTPES as it is configured now you can connect with either.
[17:56] <Southern_Gentlem> Kio_Bernard,  and its encrypted in the ssh tunnel
[17:56] <Kio_Bernard> Southern_Gentlem: My company wants an FTP server to be able to send application builds to clients.
[17:57] <Southern_Gentlem> so why not just use a webpage for that
[17:57] <Southern_Gentlem> you have tls
[17:57] <Kio_Bernard> Southern_Gentlem: What do you mean by a webpage?
[17:58] <Southern_Gentlem> a https page
[17:58] <Kio_Bernard> Southern_Gentlem: This isn't entirely my choice, it is something the lead business analyst and software architect want set up.
[17:59] <Southern_Gentlem> Kio_Bernard,  reminde them this is the 21 Century and ftp is highly insecure
[17:59] <tomreyn> Kio_Bernard: http(S) downloads form a webserver you host is possibly the best option if you just need outbound transfers.
[18:00] <Kio_Bernard> Southern_Gentlem: Thank you for the input, I'll look about talking to my boss about it, but for now, do you have any suggestions for my original question?
[18:00] <pavlos> Kio_Bernard: you could setup https://company.net/builds and let your clients grab builds ...
[18:00] <Kio_Bernard> tomreyn: Thank you, I will talk to my boss about this also and look into trying proftpd.
[18:01] <tomreyn> Kio_Bernard: when you say "I have both SFTP and FTPES", do you mean FTPS (FTP+TLS) or SFTP (SSH + ftp-like communication protocol add-on)?
[18:01] <Kio_Bernard> tomreyn: I mean I have SSH FTP, and FTP with Explicit TLS.
[18:01] <Kio_Bernard> tomreyn: Both of those running at the same time.
[18:02] <tomreyn> okay, so that's nice from a user perspective since they can choose, but it's a lot of work for you to maintain.
[18:02] <Kio_Bernard> tomreyn: Why is that?
[18:03] <tomreyn> because these are entirely different protocols requiring different daemons and configurations
[18:03] <tomreyn> and HTTPS would be even more accessible to clients, but then this was already said.
[18:04] <Kio_Bernard> tomreyn: Why do they need vastly different configurations? I have IPTables firewall set up with the appropriate ports forwarded and it seems to work just fine?
[18:04] <gabrielc> Kio_Bernard: the ftp protocol can bring you problems regarding firewalling. a https website for downloads seems more appropriate. or sftp. imho
[18:04] <Kio_Bernard> grabrielc: By SFTP do you mean FTP over SSH, because that's what I have. I do not have just FTP, I only have secure methods of using it, which are SFTP and FTPES.
[18:05] <tomreyn> Kio_Bernard: Usually, FTPS is setup using an FTP daeon, SFTP is setup using an SSH daemon. There are some daemons which try to support both protocols, but I'd usually stay away form them since they try to combine something completely different there.
[18:06] <gabrielc> Kio_Bernard: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SSH_File_Transfer_Protocol
[18:06] <Azrael_-> hi
[18:06] <Kio_Bernard> grabrielc: Yes, I have SFTP set up.
[18:07] <Azrael_-> if i upgrade my system from 15.10 to 16.04 and don't upgrade the kernel, will this has some negative side effects?
[18:07] <tomreyn> Kio_Bernard: SFTP is *not* based on the FTP protocol
[18:07] <Ben64> Azrael_-: you can't do that
[18:07] <Kio_Bernard> tomreyn: So if I know nothing about these daemons, does that mean I set it up without them?
[18:07] <Azrael_-> Ben64: mind telling me why?
[18:07] <tomreyn> Kio_Bernard: i don't know what you setup there ;)
[18:07] <Ben64> because when you upgrade, it upgrades all the packages
[18:08] <Ben64> Azrael_-: the better question is why would you want to
[18:08] <Kio_Bernard> tomreyn: Apologies, I just meant to say I have an file transfer server that currently uses SFTP and FTPES, only secure methods since FTP has no security.
[18:08] <Azrael_-> Ben64: i'm running in a virtualized environment, i don't have control over the kernel and before the upgrade, no kernel was installed at all. so i can't upgrade the kernel myself. that's why i ask: any negative side effects if i upgrade everything but still run with the old kernel?
[18:09] <tomreyn> Kio_Bernard: which daemons do you currently use to speak these protocols then?
[18:09] <Ben64> Azrael_-: well that's a different situation, should check with the provider to see if you can even upgrade without it breaking
[18:10] <Kio_Bernard> tomreyn: In all honesty, I have no idea, I can tell you how I set it up if that will elucidate some issues.
[18:10] <Azrael_-> Ben64: i already checked with the provider and they told me, i could upgrade to whatever version i want. so i have their free pas for my doing. but the didn't even mention the kernel, that's why i'm asking
[18:10] <DArqueBishop> Azrael_-: wait, what? That makes no sense. Of course a kernel would be installed; it's literally the core of the operating system.
[18:10] <Kio_Bernard> BRB real quick.
[18:10] <Ben64> Azrael_-: then go for it
[18:10] <Azrael_-> DArqueBishop: in a virtualized environment the kernel can be provided by the host-system
[18:11] <Azrael_-> Ben64: i know, but as i don't have control over the kernel i want to know if there are negative side-effects if i run the newer system with the old kernel
[18:11] <tomreyn> Kio_Bernard: so i assume you use vsftpd for anything ftp based, so for FTP(E)S. And if you really have SFTP setup then it is most likely through the OpenSSH server, since vsftpd does not support this protocol.
[18:12] <Ben64> Azrael_-: you're not even running the 15.10 kernel now so it doesn't matter
[18:12] <Azrael_-> Ben64: currently i'm running 4.2.0-042stab120.16, no real idea what ubuntu-version this belongs to
[18:12] <Ben64> Azrael_-: none
[18:13] <Azrael_-> interesting
[18:18] <oerheks> Azrael_-, you want to use a newer ubuntu with older kernel, really?
[18:18] <oerheks> that is like buying a new car, and put your old tyres on it :-D
[18:20] <Southern_Gentlem> oerheks,  buying a porsche and putting a 1970 VW bug motor in it
[18:20] <oerheks> i still struggle with "in a virtualized environment the kernel can be provided by the host-system"
[18:22] <Kio_Bernard> tomreyn: Ahh yes, that is right, it is through OpenSSH Server.
[18:26] <Southern_Gentlem> so you dont need a FTP server running you have SSH
[18:26] <tomreyn> Kio_Bernard: okay so my point was just that since you currently provide access to the data through two different daemons / services, which have different means of configuration (and access restrictions) you run a certain risk that those configurations can get out of sync. maintainenace is more difficult (you'll need to modify configuration sof two services, not just one whenever a change is necessary or you upgrade ubuntu) and from a security
[18:26] <tomreyn> POV, you also have a larger attack surface and more complexity.
[18:27] <tomreyn> Kio_Bernard: so i'd suggest you just choose one of the two (or HTTPS, still the best option if you just want downloads with optional password authentication)) to provide this very service.
[18:27] <Kio_Bernard> tomreyn: When you say HTTPS and a web page for downloads, is that something we can host locally here on our servers?
[18:28] <tomreyn> Kio_Bernard: you have a server you manage? then you can install a web serve ron it and host files on it which anyone who can connect to it can download.
[18:29] <Kio_Bernard> tomreyn: I don't manage it but the company I work for has local servers.
[18:29] <Kio_Bernard> tomreyn: And this is more secure than FTPES or SFTP?
[18:32] <tomreyn> Kio_Bernard: i would say for just static file downloads, using HTTPS instead of FTP(E)S is more secure since it's very easy to use for the end user and there is both a good server and client ecosystem. that's not really so for FTP(E)S. SFTP (via OpenSSH) is maybe a better protocol than HTTPS if you would prefer to have a better authentication scheme and need to allow file uploads.
[18:33] <tomreyn> Kio_Bernard: keep in mind that from a user perspective (I do not know your users), HTTP down- and uploads are a lot easier to use and use correctly than SSH / SFTP are.
[18:35] <Kio_Bernard> tomreyn: I will have to look into all of this, but we definitely want to go with the most secure option.
[18:39] <tomreyn> 'secure' is a really subjective term, it has so many aspects. you may setup a well-hardened server with very limited attack surface, everything well configured, using good protocols. and users may end up sneing data in the clear since they don't know how to use it properly and the protocol you chose easily allows you to get it wrong, or because they thought they needed to share their private keys with the world. (this is speaking hypothetical,
[18:39] <tomreyn> not in response to the architecture you discussed.)
[18:41] <Kio_Bernard> tomreyn: I appreciate the help, for the time being I've been the one tasked with trying to set up this server/service, but I don't know if it will actually be used, and obviously my boss will be looking everything over to make sure it's correct.
[18:41] <tomreyn> cool, good luck on this task then!
[18:45] <the_k> my fresh copy of ubuntu now stops at a blinking cursor although i can ssh in fine... any ideas what's going on>? dmesg: https://pastebin.com/raw/mfFxa2t3
[18:48] <tomreyn> probably an X realzed issue, check /var/log/Xorg.*.log
[18:48] <tomreyn> *related
[18:49] <Bashing-om> the_k: Broadcom wireless ? " You must go to http://wireless.kernel.org/en/users/Drivers/b43#devicefirmware and download the correct firmware for this driver version. Please carefully read all instructions on this website." . Did you do ?
[18:55] <nyso> hi there
[18:55] <the_k> i dont need wifi on this system
[18:55] <the_k> oh it's ubuntu server, no x
[18:56] <the_k> usually i'd get a terminal
[18:56] <the_k> login prompt
[18:58] <Bashing-om> the_k: Sorry, I do not know how to disbale the broadcom hardware .
[18:58] <the_k> i don't care about that error
[18:59] <the_k> it can not enable the wifi, and it should not affect anything
[18:59] <someone_> Hi , the applications waich are in KDE launcher Where I can find their folder ?
[18:59] <ioria> the_k, switch console  ?
[18:59] <the_k> switch?
[18:59] <the_k> what'd you mean?
[19:00] <ioria> the_k,  ctrl +alt + f2 ?
[19:00] <the_k> does nothign
[19:00] <the_k> oh
[19:00] <the_k> took a few seconds but yeah i have a console now
[19:00] <the_k> so is there a frozen console now in the background?
[19:01] <ioria> the_k,  cat /etc/default/grub ?
[19:01] <the_k> :5
[19:01] <the_k> http://paste.ubuntu.com/25185540/
[19:02] <ioria> the_k,  change quiet splash" with text ... and it's not server is mini
[19:02] <the_k> i installed from the ubuntu server iso
[19:02] <the_k> i didn't install a desktop
[19:02] <ioria> the_k,  really ? ok ... change that line
[19:03] <the_k> GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash"
[19:03] <ioria> the_k,  and run sudo update-grub
[19:03] <the_k> this to what?
[19:03] <ioria> the_k,  quiet splash  with text
[19:03] <the_k> Warning: Setting GRUB_TIMEOUT to a non-zero value when GRUB_HIDDEN_TIMEOUT is set is no longer supported
[19:03] <ioria> the_k, it's ok
[19:04] <the_k> k
[19:04] <minimec> someone_: The launchers of all installed GUI programs are located in /usr/share/applications (don't know if this answers your question). You could add local launchers for your user in .local/share/applicatioins in you useers directory.
[19:05] <the_k> change quiet splash to what? i don't understand
[19:05] <ioria> the_k,  to 'text'
[19:05] <the_k> ah ok
[19:05] <ioria> the_k,  without quotes
[19:06] <the_k> GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="text"
[19:06] <the_k> like that yes?
[19:06] <ioria> the_k,  yes
[19:06] <the_k> ok rebooting
[19:06] <ioria> the_k,  no
[19:06] <ioria> the_k,  sudo update-grub
[19:06] <the_k> ah i did that before!
[19:06] <ioria> no
[19:06] <the_k> i was thinking maybe i should do it after!
[19:06] <the_k> then forgot
[19:06] <ioria> the_k,  oh, come on
[19:06] <the_k> i shoudl be able to ssh in and do that now
[19:07] <the_k> heh
[19:07] <the_k> so what would have caused it to end up like that?
[19:08] <ioria> the_k,  if you ask , the installer always thinks that you need a gui
[19:08] <the_k> right but after a few reboots i had a login prompt
[19:08] <the_k> i mean after each and every reboot .. for a few times
[19:09] <the_k> then i installed just one piece of software (that comes wiht a fair few other things) it ends up not doing that anymore
[19:09] <ioria> the_k,  what you installed ?
[19:12] <the_k> ok nice, i see the terminal boot text now
[19:12] <the_k> zoneminder
[19:12] <the_k> comes wiht mysql, apache
[19:12] <ioria> the_k,  interesting
[19:12] <ioria> the_k,  it'a a gui app
[19:13] <the_k> no it requires a browser to manage it
[19:13] <ioria> the_k,  a gui browser
[19:13] <the_k> yeah what i was doing was loading firefox on it with startx
[19:14] <the_k> initx
[19:14] <ioria> the_k,  without X ?
[19:14] <the_k> x is on the system
[19:14] <the_k> i think it comes with the default tools
[19:14] <ioria> the_k,  you said no de on your sys
[19:14] <the_k> as i didn't choose a gui
[19:14] <the_k> well yeah wasn't being specific enough
[19:14] <the_k> i know it doesn't auto boot into a gui that's all
[19:15] <ioria> the_k,  without X you cannot use ff
[19:15] <the_k> and zm doesn't require x to run
[19:15] <the_k> yes but i can browse to the web server from another machine
[19:15] <ioria> the_k,  ha, ok
[19:15] <the_k> that's the usual method
[19:16] <the_k> is it possible to start x from an ssh login?
[19:16] <ioria> the_k,  ssh -X (or -Y)
[19:16] <the_k> ok!
[19:18] <the_k> could you tell me how to start x directly into firefox? i lost the command...
[19:19] <the_k> :)
[19:19] <ioria> the_k,  the server should have X
[19:19] <the_k> yes but i want to only run firedco
[19:19] <the_k> firefox.. and nothing else, to reserve resourses
[19:20] <ioria> the_k,  the server should have X
[19:20] <[n0mad]> did you follow this guide? http://zoneminder.readthedocs.io/en/latest/installationguide/ubuntu.html#easy-way-ubuntu-16-04
[19:20] <the_k> i did
[19:20] <[n0mad]> just curious since it mentions firefox nowhere
[19:20] <the_k> yep, it's not the common method to run the browser on the server
[19:21] <the_k> i assumed it would be worth trying out if i could get it to run the video streams on the laptop too as well as recording them on motion detection
[19:21] <the_k> perfectly good screen, so..
[19:22] <ioria> !info motion
[19:22] <the_k> ah it's xinit /usr/bin/firefox
[19:22] <the_k> not initx
[19:23] <the_k> doesn't require and switches
[19:23] <the_k> any*
[19:33] <AnonymousBeing> Hello. I was screwing around with a tri-boot luks encryption setup thing and I'm pretty sure I messed up my disk. Booted into ubuntu, installing any package results in dpkg trying to update my initramfs(why?), which then failed with "E: No boot partition found !". I can confirm that my boot partition however does exist on /dev/sda2, and is mounted on /boot. How do I go about telling the kernel that /dev/sda2 is my boot
[19:33] <AnonymousBeing> partition, or should I just restart all over again? Thanks
[19:36] <ioria> AnonymousBeing, odd location for boot  /dev/sda2
[19:36] <AnonymousBeing> ioria: ubiquity was being ficky, so I had to make the EFI partition on /dev/sda1 for some reason :|
[19:36] <AnonymousBeing> (therefore I made /boot on sda2)
[19:56] <donofrio> how many x11 forwards can you do inside a forward?  I do one "export DISPLAY=:0.0" to start my need, then I need another one for the ssh -Y in order to get my x11 remote app...but I get "Error: cannot open display: localhost:13.0" :(
[20:23] <snkcld> i installed dnsmasq on my system, and have it running alongside systemd-resolved. dnsmasq knows to send queries to resolved due to /run/dnsmasq/resolv.conf containing "nameserver 127.0.0.53". my question is, what script/program put that there?
[20:50] <Absolute0> Which char needs to be quoted for this to work: ls /home/ramin/buybulkamerica/buybulkamerica/uploads/items/2972047228?src=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.searshelp.com%2Fimages%2FI%2F31OKs%252B2SMmL_1.jpg&d=fa9e16a3883f516da4d001caed888be6860e10efonfig.js
[20:50] <Absolute0> ?
[20:51] <pi-ro> &
[20:51] <Absolute0> pi-ro: how?
[20:52] <pi-ro> you can just put everything after ls into " "
[20:52] <Absolute0> pi-ro: doesn't help
[20:53] <Absolute0> pi-ro: http://dpaste.com/3PBMX2J
[20:53] <sgen> So Im trying to setup a remote verdaccio server (https://github.com/verdaccio/verdaccio) and Ive got it running on port 4873
[20:54] <sgen> Ive confirmed its running via its log and via sudo netstant -tlupn
[20:54] <sgen> but I cannot access it. every time I try I get ECONNREFUSED
[20:54] <sgen> I tried telnet as well and got: telnet: Unable to connect to remote host: Connection refused
[20:55] <sgen> So I know its running, netstat says its listening, what else could be refusing the connection?
[21:02] <hehehe> hi whats the difference between etc hosts and ect hostname files?
[21:04] <jdfish> hehehe: https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1984993
[21:06] <sgen> Found it
[21:06] <hehehe> hostname should map back to 127.0.0.1?
[21:07] <geirha> Absolute0: it fails because the destination directory does not exist, not because of the &
[21:07] <geirha> Absolute0: no actually, the source files do not exist
[21:10] <geirha> Absolute0: And why are you trying to use mv(1) to rename the files? why not just do it with python?
[21:10] <Absolute0> geirha: i am using python
[21:10] <Absolute0> that output is generated with python
[21:12] <geirha> Absolute0: yes, but why complicate things by involving a shell when python can easily rename files on its own?
[21:12] <Absolute0> geirha: same issue with python
[21:12] <Absolute0> you mean os.rename?
[21:12] <geirha> yes, or shutil.move, depending on the case
[21:12] <Absolute0> also my os.listdir runs out of memory when using python
[21:13] <geirha> well your main problem is that those files don't exist
[21:13] <pi-ro> Absolute0: is this path to file correct ?
[21:13] <pi-ro> Absolute0: /home/ramin/buybulkamerica/buybulkamerica/uploads/items/2972047228?src=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.searshelp.com%2Fimages%2FI%2F31OKs%252B2SMmL_1.jpg&d=fa9e16a3883f516da4d001caed888be6860e10efonfig.js
[21:13] <Absolute0> it is
[21:13] <Absolute0> ls on it works
[21:13] <geirha> Absolute0: and try os.walk instead of os.listdir
[21:16] <Absolute0> thanks
[21:18] <geirha> ah, I diffed the filenames now. It changes "...src=http%3A%2F%2F..." to "...src=http://..."  which is why it fails
[21:18] <geirha> it is trying to move the file to a different directory
[21:18] <Absolute0> yes...
[21:19] <Absolute0> I should have taken control of the filenmaes upon creation
[21:19] <Absolute0> now it's a big mess
[21:19] <geirha> remember that / is the pathname separator
[21:19] <Absolute0> Im aware
[21:19] <Absolute0> it's url...
[21:19] <marvin42> hello
[21:19] <geirha> so consider renaming %2F into, say "_"
[21:20] <geirha> if you insist on storing in ...http:/...   you need to create the new directories first, because mv doesn't do that
[21:21] <Absolute0> geirha: os.walk is a generator?
[21:21] <geirha> Absolute0: yes, so it shouldn't require as much memory as os.listdir
[21:21] <Absolute0> thanks
[21:26] <notaswengr> maybe someone here could help me
[21:26] <notaswengr> how do i route audio to loopback and get playback
[21:32] <notaswengr> anyone
[21:33] <notaswengr> nice distro btw
[21:37] <codecutter> does 'cp -r /dir /new' replace existing content or ignore?
[21:37] <codecutter> 'cp -r /dir/* /new'
[21:38] <notaswengr> latter no
[21:38] <notaswengr> new should exists
[21:38] <codecutter> i mean the content in /new
[21:39] <notaswengr> yep if it exists
[21:39] <notaswengr> -R
[21:39] <jayjo> how can I tell if I'm using GNOME or unity?
[21:39] <notaswengr> by the ui
[21:39] <notaswengr> top bar in gnome and unity is different
[21:40] <notaswengr> they also have a different dock
[21:40] <jayjo> looking in my system monitor I have mentions of both on a lot of processes. I've been having my system crash and based on some graphics card behavior i think its nvidia, so I'm at the step where i need to reinstall the DE. Can I have both on one machine, even if only one is running?
[21:40] <[n0mad]> yes, that would be possible
[21:41] <notaswengr> yes
[21:41] <jayjo> Is one preferred or more supported? Which should I uninstall?
[21:41] <notaswengr> it must be gnome daemons that are running as well as ubuntu unity utilities that are running in background
[21:41] <jayjo> oh, ok. so that's normal behavior?
[21:42] <notaswengr> yes
[21:42] <[n0mad]> you could do "echo $DESKTOP_SESSION" from a command line maybe
[21:42] <jayjo> do I reinstall them both? I'm referencing this question: https://askubuntu.com/a/760935
[21:42] <jayjo> I had done that already adn it prints "ubunut"
[21:42] <jayjo> ... "ubuntu"
[21:43] <jayjo> should I reinstall them both?
[21:44] <notaswengr> why?
[21:45] <notaswengr> apt-get install -reinstall ubuntu-desktop
[21:45] <notaswengr> --reinstall
[21:47] <[n0mad]> apt policy ubuntu-gnome-desktop ; apt policy ubuntu-desktop you could see if they both show installed there.
[21:47] <Speed_> i dont hear the playback with audacity and noteblock stdios
[21:48] <Speed_> what can i do to troubbleshoot sound problems?
[21:50] <Bashing-om> !sound | Speed_
[21:51] <Speed_> oh, ty! for some reason the default device was changed
[21:51] <[n0mad]> it may not hurt to google "ubuntu route loopback audio" for more information. i'm not very familiar with sound troubleshooting beyond volume on/off
[21:51] <Speed_> it was strange because some sounds was workign and some was not
[21:52] <noraatepernos> Ubuntu 16.04.2 LTS, here.  Is there a way to enable ping responses?
[21:53] <noraatepernos> I believe it’s a ufw issue but on 14.04 I don’t believe I had to do this.
[21:53] <[n0mad]> i have ufw running on my other system and can ping it and get responses
[21:53] <[n0mad]> but i guess maybe it's possible
[21:53] <Absolute0> How do I list all files less than 162 bytes?
[21:54] <westlanewanderer> I am using Empathy on Ubuntu 16.04 with Gnome 3. Is there a way to turn off the join/leave messages in general or this chat room in particular?
[21:55] <[n0mad]> only if it's part of the Empathy settings
[21:55] <[n0mad]> it's a client specific thing to hide join/parts
[21:55] <nacc> Absolute0: find . -size -162, I think
[21:55] <noraatepernos> So weird.  I can reach the instances by http, say, but no ping response received.
[21:57] <[n0mad]> noraatepernos: apparently ufw could prevent it https://askubuntu.com/questions/448087/how-do-i-configure-a-machine-to-respond-or-not-respond-to-ping-requests
[21:57] <westlanewanderer> [n0mad]: haven't found the option yet
[22:03] <tomreyn> noraatepernos: unless this ubuntu installation is modified, ping would work on 16.04 by default. of course, there could be a perimeter firewall which filters these packets.
[22:09] <drab> hi, anybody knows where Lubuntu defines the session to be used?
[22:09] <drab> after I login with lightdm I keep getting LXDE as a session instead of "Lubuntu"
[22:10] <drab> but I can't figure out where that's set and choosing it from the "Session menu" from lightdm login screen makes no difference
[22:10] <noraatepernos> tomreyn: I wonder if it’s something specific to the amazon image.
[22:11] <tomreyn> noraatepernos: maybe, or to amazon's default firewall settings rather?
[22:12] <tomreyn> noraatepernos: i haven't worked with this stuff for a while but there is some place to configure that in their 'console'
[22:13] <th0r> drab, give me a sec...trying to upload a note to pastebin but didn't have pastebinit installed.
[22:14] <tomreyn> th0r: next time you're in this situation you could pipe into: nc termbin.com 9999
[22:14] <th0r> drab, http://paste.debian.net/978570/
[22:15] <th0r> tomreyn, yeah...but old habits die hard. I usually have pastebinit, but reinstalled jessie a week ago and haven't caught all the loose ends.
[22:15] <th0r> drab, you might try those two commands...see if that resets it for you
[22:16] <noraatepernos> tomreyn: https://serverfault.com/questions/511738/why-cant-i-ping-my-freshly-set-up-amazon-web-service-ec2-instance you called it.
[22:16] <noraatepernos> Thanks
[22:16] <tomreyn> welcome
[22:18] <MKN-dev-LINUX> o/
[22:21] <drab> th0r: for a moment I thought finally something wortked, but no :(
[22:21] <drab> thanks for the suggestion tho
[22:21] <drab> appreciate the intention
[22:22] <drab>  /etc/alternatives/x-session-manager used to be pointing to startlxde, but after changing that to lxsession the result is the same
[22:22] <drab> and in part it makes sense, lxde is still going to run lxsession, the session manager doesn't change
[22:23] <drab> the gotcha is how lxsession is started... documentation is useless afaics.. it goes into great detail where the configs per profile are, but says nothing about how profiles are set
[22:23] <drab> th0r: the ps output still shows /usr/bin/lxsession -s LXDE -e LXDE
[22:23] <drab> instead of /usr/bin/lxsession -s Lubuntu -e LXDE
[22:25] <drab> ah, that did give me a clue tho...
[22:26] <drab> startlxde has the above as a last line (it's a bash script)
[22:26] <th0r> drab, just a thought. Are you trying to change it in a terminal? If so, as soon as you log out it saves the (wrong) session as your default
[22:26] <drab> so that's the thing calling lxsession with -s
[22:26] <jayjo> what's the best way to reformat an internal drive to be used a fresh ubuntu installation? 1604. I have multiple internal drives so I'm going to install on one of these drives, pull data over and explode the last installation
[22:26] <drab> and the man does say that lxsession will use LXDE as a profile if none is specified
[22:27] <drab> th0r: what would I be changing where?
[22:27] <drab> I think the mystery is partially solved...
[22:27] <jayjo> to do that should I just boot from the live cd and pick the correct drive?
[22:27] <drab> by default startlxde is the default session manager
[22:27] <drab> which does explicitly calls lxsession with -s LXDE
[22:27] <drab> if I change it to lxsession, that by default also uses LXDE as a profile
[22:28] <drab> the key, unanswered, question is where on earth one can specify the profile for lxsession to use
[22:28] <drab> that's what I can't find in any man page or wiki page
[22:28] <drab> somewhere you'd guess there is a config or variable to set that lxsession will check for the profile name before setting LXDE as default
[22:29] <drab> https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1851180
[22:29] <drab> stuff like that shows a "startlubuntu" instead of a "startlxde", but that doesn't exist on my system
[22:30] <drab> even on one where the profile is correctly selected as Lubuntu
[22:30] <th0r> drab, this has some notes on how to change that I think...https://github.com/lxde/lxsession
[22:32] <drab> th0r: I went through it and couldn't figure out something that worked
[22:33] <drab> I have a Lubuntu.desktop in /usr/share/xsessions
[22:33] <drab> and I've set lightdm's user-session variable to be Lubuntu
[22:33] <drab> made no diff, still starts with -s LXDE
[22:34] <th0r> drab, that page calls for creating a startup script with the correct -s value. I would put it in ~/bin, then link it to /usr/local/bin for path access
[22:38] <drab> th0r: I would and can do that, but I have a dozen older desktops who didn't need that and work just fine
[22:38] <drab> also the README does say to create the script, but ultimately it points to the creation of a .desktop file
[22:38] <genii> Shouldn't all that stuff be being called from a script in /etc/X11/ ...like maybe Xsession or such?
[22:38] <jayjo> I'm currently at the "something else" stage of an ubuntu install, and I have a drive that has other partitions on it that I want to completely wipe and manually partition like this answer: https://askubuntu.com/a/343352
[22:38] <drab> which calls that script from the login manager (gdm in the reop)
[22:39] <drab> and I already have such .desktop file with the correct lubuntu stuff in it
[22:39] <genii> Seeing thats where all the global X stuff gets set
[22:39] <drab> it just doesn't seem to be invoked by lightdm
[22:39] <drab> and actually I just figured out why it works on old desktops and not on new ones
[22:39] <drab> lame
[22:40] <drab> on old ones installed from iso lxde-common for some reason is not installed... it only contains profile stuff and I guess they knew they didn't need it
[22:40] <drab> on the new desktops installed using the lubunt-desktop pkg that got pulled it
[22:40] <drab> but this is a fallback bug imho
[22:40] <drab> because it should be working and be possibly to clearly pick which session you want
[22:41] <drab> in any case, apt-get remove --purge lxde-common on new box and like magic lxsession is now started with -s Lubuntu
[22:42] <drab> th0r: thanks for pointers and bouncing ideas
[22:44] <th0r> drab, no problem. Glad you got it working
[22:55] <Doctor_Nick> I'm having a problem with 16.04 desktop. I do not want it to go into power save mode, ever, and I have set the power settings accordingly on my account; but if it idles on the login screen without anyone logged in, it will supsend after 30 minutes
[22:55] <Doctor_Nick> How do I fix it so that it does not do this?
[22:58] <zanshin> I'm wanting to use FontAwesome, do I install it in .config/fonts or .local/share/fonts? Or both?
[23:01] <bad63r> I have a question: I wanted more up-to-date servers(3 days ) so i switch from local serbian, to the us. I did that with vim changin all 'rs' to 'us' and that didn't go well. I noticed only today because i couldn't find simple programs with apt like lynx,rofi etc. I have old version of /etc/apt/sources.list
[23:01] <bad63r> should i just change it back or what?
[23:01] <jakeri> can't understand, what's wrong with people :L
[23:01] <bad63r> jakeri, is it my broken english? :/
[23:01] <jakeri> i dumpster dove an ideapad y500
[23:02] <jakeri> it was in perfect shape
[23:02] <jakeri> bad63r: i was just talking about humanity in general
[23:02] <zanshin> zanshin: Answered my own question. Looks like .local/share/fonts is the place to put them
[23:02] <jakeri> didn't read your question yet :D
[23:02] <bad63r> vim is text editor
[23:03] <drab> bad63r: did you run apt-get update ?
[23:03] <bad63r> ye many times
[23:03] <bad63r> and all went fine
[23:04] <jakeri> sudo apt upgrade ?
[23:04] <drab> upgrade has nothing to do with not finding things
[23:04] <bad63r> ye both, sudo apt update, and sudo apt upgrade
[23:04] <jakeri> oh yeah
[23:04] <drab> bad63r: please pastebin your sources.list
[23:04] <bad63r> kk
[23:04] <drab> pastebin.ubuntu.com
[23:04] <drab> also pastebin the output of "apt-get update"
[23:05] <drab> and then an apt get install or search or whatever error you said you were seeing please
[23:05] <tomreyn> bad63r: did you only edit your apt sources or other files as well?
[23:05] <bad63r> tomreyn, just apt's source.list
[23:06] <oerheks> bad63r, esy to fix, you changes univeRSe multiveRSe too
[23:06] <Jan\\> whats the default desktop for ubuntu studio?
[23:06] <tomreyn> bad63r: what did you mean by "more up to date servers"? do you really think the serbian mirrror servers lag 3 days behind?
[23:06] <Jan\\> xfce?
[23:06] <bad63r> my sources.list : https://pastebin.com/vn8TpZ5t
[23:06] <oerheks> Jan\\, yes
[23:07] <drab> univeuse
[23:07] <drab> shuold read universe
[23:07] <drab> that's your problem
[23:07] <drab> same for multiveuse
[23:07] <drab> maybe that's the serbian word for it
[23:08] <drab> that won't exist on the us mirror
[23:08] <drab> bad63r: ^^^
[23:08] <oerheks> badr if you have the old list, edit it manually
[23:08] <bad63r> tomreyn, well no x) but long story short, my friends and I had hacker night and I couldn't find latest qt5 and they convinced me that it is bcs serbian servers are late for couple of days than us... so I changed them :/ dumb from side
[23:08] <tomreyn> bad63r: okay, there' just one mirror serve rin serbia and it's lagging 2 days behind, you're right https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+archivemirrors
[23:09] <tomreyn> doh, all those mirrors are lagging behind a lot, what's going on...
[23:09] <bad63r> well you know, we are small country :D not used to work hard end stuff
[23:10] <oerheks> holliday time at universities, i guess
[23:10] <drab> working hard is overrated
[23:10] <drab> bad63r: anyway just fix the spelling of universe and multiverse and you'll be good
[23:11] <oerheks> tomreyn,  this is the time to discover real up2date mirrors :-D
[23:11] <drab> and if you have more than one machine locally (and can spare the space) debmirror from us.archive ftw
[23:12] <bad63r> drab, i will. I noticed right away where was the mistake but just wasn't sure what will be consequences
[23:12] <bad63r> thx guys :) fast and clear
[23:12] <tomreyn> oerheks: hmm could be those summer holidays, yes, hehe, didnt think of it.
[23:14] <oerheks> germany and NL almost red .. a shame
[23:15] <oerheks> lets worry about bugs...
[23:16] <bad63r> wow for germany, I thought they were pro-opensource aka linux,ubuntu
[23:18] <oerheks> yes they are, but if you look closely, most of them are uni
[23:18] <oerheks> * in red
[23:20] <tomreyn> luckily, as long as security.ubuntu is not affected, that's not really an issue.
[23:20] <tomreyn> (unless people pull security updates from those mirrors, which some do but no one should do)
[23:23] <oerheks> hello omgubuntu, there is a nice holliday story in this
[23:23] <oerheks> :-D
[23:25] <oerheks> i think this applies to all distros, too.
[23:26] <tomreyn> debian looks better https://mirror-master.debian.org/status/mirror-status.html
[23:27] <tomreyn> centos http://mirror-status.centos.org/
[23:28] <oerheks> https://www.apache.org/mirrors/
[23:29] <oerheks> hmm we turn up not good.
[23:29] <oerheks> or not optimum.
[23:37] <xdevnull> Hello, I've issue Files from the Dashboard (Search screen) (I'm not sure what to call it) is there anyway to open "Files" by terminal to see if theres any errors
[23:37] <xdevnull> Files i mean the "manager" to see folders/files etc..
[23:38] <campitor> hi everyone
[23:38] <jayjo> my machine has multiple hard drives connected... how do I specify the boot order?
[23:39] <tomreyn> xdevnull: nautilus is the default gnome file manager, i think unity uses it, too.
[23:39] <campitor> when I run sudo apt-get update all I get is a lot of [waiting for headers] and nothing is fetched
[23:39] <campitor> how can i resolve this?
[23:40] <xdevnull> !paste
[23:40] <oerheks> campitor, what version of ubuntu exactly? can you paste the errors ?
[23:40] <xdevnull> tomreyn, I get this error. http://paste.ubuntu.com/25187067/
[23:40] <Bashing-om> xdevnull: unity as the de ? try terminal command ' nautilus ' to start the file manager .
[23:41] <oerheks> jayjo, in the bios/uefi
[23:41] <thedonny> hey
[23:41] <xdevnull> Bashing-om, Yes sir. i tried the nautilus. but i see it doesn't open after while it throws an error. http://paste.ubuntu.com/25187067/
[23:42] <Pinkamena_D> Hello All, I got a weird issue. I have tried formatting a secondary hard drive with btrfs and adding it to /etc/fstab. That all works fine but on startup I get this hugeness: https://pasteboard.co/GCWzu0W.png
[23:43] <oerheks> xdevnull, run 'nautilus >/dev/null 2>&1' or make an alias https://askubuntu.com/a/824911
[23:43] <Pinkamena_D> How can I remove them? They are all from the btrfs drive like 'pids' , 'blkio', 'cgroup', etc.
[23:43] <campitor> oerheks : 16.04.2 x64, there are no erros, only stuck at waiting for headers
[23:43] <Bashing-om> xdevnull: pastebin ' dpkg -l nautilus ' / See what we have to work with .
[23:43] <thedonny> so i'm running 16.04 with a LAMP stack, and was wondering whether it is normal to see a lot of results after running "sudo find / -perm 0777"
[23:43] <campitor> oerheks : and this happens for all repos including tor, google, and ubuntu repos
[23:43] <tomreyn> Pinkamena_D: paste the output of 'lsblk -o +LABEL', please
[23:43] <thedonny> none of the files are in my /var/www, mainly files which seem to be system files
[23:43] <oerheks> campitor, maybe your mirror is turned off, holliday times. we just had an discussion about that
[23:44] <oerheks> change to main, and try again
[23:44] <bad63r> thedonny, I'm not sure how can you have 4 fields for permissions like r w e?
[23:44] <campitor> is ubuntu main turned off?
[23:44] <campitor> also is tor repo off as well?
[23:44] <bad63r> thedonny, It should be 3 user,groups,other
[23:44] <Pinkamena_D> tomreyn: https://bpaste.net/show/dd4d728626ed
[23:44] <oerheks> .. no,main is always up.
[23:44] <xdevnull> Bashing-om, http://paste.ubuntu.com/25187080/. But if i run it with sudo. it is working.
[23:44] <campitor> so why is this happening? I am using main
[23:45] <thedonny> sorry @bad63r, I meant just "777"
[23:45] <tomreyn> Pinkamena_D: which one is the btrfs?
[23:45] <oerheks> lets see the log please
[23:45] <Pinkamena_D> the /dev/sda1
[23:45] <xdevnull> Bashing-om, sudo killall nautilus && (nautilus &) solved my issue. it seems it was stuck somewhere for current process.
[23:46] <Bashing-om> !info nautilus xenial
[23:46] <tomreyn> Pinkamena_D: hmm, sorry, i don't know, seems like a bug to me. which ubuntu release is this?
[23:46] <Pinkamena_D> 16.04
[23:46] <tomreyn> Pinkamena_D: and all up to date?
[23:46] <campitor> how can i fully reset apt ?
[23:46] <campitor> apt-get?
[23:47] <Pinkamena_D> apt-get upgrade shows a few packages
[23:47] <bad63r> thedonny, I have many files too with 777
[23:47] <thedonny> bad63r, if I restrict the search to "sudo find / -type f -perm 777", I get no results, so i'm just wondering whether many of the system files are supposed to be permissioned with 777
[23:47] <Pinkamena_D> dling now
[23:47] <tomreyn> Pinkamena_D: i'm not saying it'll fix it, but it may...
[23:48] <bad63r> thedonny, kinda strange when you think about it. but i don't know what kinda of extension is .page
[23:48] <Bashing-om> xdevnull: Great, but who would have thunk a stuck process :)
[23:48] <thedonny> hmm ok bad63r, interesting, I was getting a bit scared thinking I may have configured something incorrectly and made my vps vulnerable to world write
[23:49] <thedonny> i've got things like "/usr/share/zoneinfo/<random countries> being picked up
[23:50] <xdevnull> Bashing-om, Good question to ask. but i don't know :/
[23:50] <thedonny> or "/usr/src/linux-headers-4.4.0-87-generic/..."
[23:51] <MKN-dev-LINUX> o/
[23:51] <tomreyn> campitor: sudo rm /var/lib/apt/lists/*
[23:52] <jayjo> What's the best way to hide different internal drives in nautilus? I'd still like to access them but not show them in the finder or my dock
[23:55] <bad63r> thedonny, well  /usr/src/kernel... contains kernel source which you can see without sudo, but you shouldn't be able to write it
[23:55] <bad63r> but dunno
[23:56] <Bashing-om> jayjo: If you mount, say from the /mnt directoty. I would then expect the mounts not to be reflected in a GUI app .
[23:56] <bad63r> I've just started to learn linux kernel/drivers etc so I'm not expert in this
[23:56] <bad63r> thedonny,
[23:57] <tomreyn> jayjo: another approach https://askubuntu.com/questions/122783/how-do-i-hide-remove-a-partition-from-the-nautilus-left-panel#comments-link-122826
[23:59] <thedonny> bad63r, that's fair. I think I may run something like lynis and do a automatic security audit