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WoLfHello everyone, I'm having an issue with Lubuntu 17.04.. Long story short, when the graphical session is started manually, there is an error with message bus and things don't work anymore (in example, the logout menu does not appear, and any key shortcut won't work). Everything worked fine in 16.0400:50
WoLfI tested it also directly from Live, on three different machines. Same result: init 3, init 5, Lubuntu broken.. on all three, with nothing changed from default.00:51
WoLfHave been struggling with this issue for a week now, if anyone could point me in the right direction, it would be greatly appreciated.00:55
wxlproblem is you're asking for something that's really a unique use case00:57
wxlno one is testing with the graphical session being started manually00:57
wxlanother thing to consider is that the init system is systemd so that may have some effect on things00:58
WoLfLoading a system in text mode, and launching graphics at a second time if needed.. it's not that unheard of00:58
wxlnope, it's not00:58
wxlbut it's not something we are testing00:59
wxlyou might also want to check if ubuntu is having the same problems00:59
WoLfYeah, I'm not complaining about the bug slipping through. That can be understood.00:59
wxllubuntu has the same core (including the init system)01:00
WoLfI tried with Gnome and I did not have that issue.01:00
wxlmight ask gnome what they did then :)01:01
wxlalso, clarifying your problem (what's the error?) would be helpful.01:01
wxli would suggest writing up a bug report and go from there01:01
WoLf"Unable to get connection to the message bus session"01:02
wxlwhat is reporting the error?01:02
wxlit's just a random message that shows up on its own?01:02
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WoLfsorry, lost internet for a moment.01:04
WoLfthis is what I get, as the session is started.01:05
WoLfhttp://i.imgur.com/EhjcmTV.png01:05
WoLfit's /999/ on a live environment.01:05
wxldid you look at the logs?01:05
wxlespecially the lxsession ones (which, if i remember, hide in ~/.cache)01:06
WoLfI'm not sure at which log to look at, sorry..01:06
wxllike i said, file a bug01:07
wxlthat way we can diagnose this a little more01:07
WoLfAlright, I'll try to do that =)01:08
wxlWoLf: you might want to try the suggestions for changing runlevels for systemd, e.g. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Systemd01:09
WoLfBut would that be something that changed from 16.04 to 17? I am going to read it, thanks! At least it's something else to try.. I'm regretting updating my system =(01:11
WoLfJust tested with systemctl, same result.01:15
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WoLfwxl sorry to bother you again.. Under which project should I file the bug? can't see anything relevant, lubuntu-next?01:51
tsimonq2WoLf: yes02:59
WoLftsimonq2: Thanks, yes I ended up filing it there. https://bugs.launchpad.net/lubuntu-next/+bug/170710003:54
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1707100 in Lubuntu Next "Manual change to graphical runlevel unable to get the session bus" [Undecided,New]03:54
n-iCeis lubuntu-next a topic in here?04:46
n-iCeor is there a new channel04:46
tsimonq2n-iCe: Yep, it's a topic04:56
tsimonq2n-iCe: Well, technically not, because we don't support it yet... but hey, why not? :)04:57
n-iCeawesome04:58
n-iCeI'm downloading it04:58
n-iCedo you use it?04:58
n-iCehave you?04:58
tsimonq2n-iCe: I use it, yeah05:00
n-iCeawesome!05:01
n-iCeGonna install it, I'm moving it to my usb05:01
n-iCe1.5GB05:01
n-iCeIs a bug I guess05:01
n-iCeOk05:29
n-iCeIndont have internet05:29
n-iCeLol05:29
n-iCeI dont see network manager05:29
n-iCeWas it replaced?05:30
n-iCe????05:45
n-iCeHeelloooowww05:52
n-iCeWhere is the new network manageeer05:52
tsimonq2n-iCe: That's a known bug05:58
tsimonq2n-iCe: That's why we mark these things as experimental :P05:59
tsimonq2n-iCe: Regardless, you have dhcpcd installed that you can work with :)05:59
n-iCeNever used it before05:59
n-iCeAlso takes 7 minutes to boot haha05:59
n-iCeJust counted it06:00
n-iCeAnd it is already installed in hdd06:00
n-iCeMaybe is not ready for me lol06:00
tsimonq2n-iCe: Maybe not yet.06:01
n-iCeLooks great though06:01
n-iCeSolved the internet thing06:02
n-iCeWith iwconfig06:02
tsimonq2Cool cool06:03
n-iCeActually is conneted06:05
n-iCeBut ping does not work06:05
tsimonq2Oh, weird06:06
n-iCeDhcpcd wlo106:06
n-iCeHow do i detect if worked06:06
n-iCeDhclient06:07
n-iCeIs what i wanted i think06:07
n-iCeNop06:11
n-iCeLet me check resolv.conf06:11
n-iCeDammit06:12
n-iCeIs connected06:12
n-iCeBut no internet06:12
fishcookertsimonq2: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/lubuntu/releases/artful/alpha-2/ right?09:45
fishcookeris there any mirror for it09:45
fishcookeri tried the torrent but takes time too long to be downloaded09:46
marickI have Lubuntu minimal installation. How do I disable screen to go powersafe mode and be always on?10:59
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JohnDoe_71Rusxset dpms?11:46
brenthI'm new to this zone - prior apologies if I ask "old stuff" - my problem is I have an old Dell 32-bit laptop and run Ubuntu 17.04.  When Ubuntu goes 64 bit only I want to switch to Lubuntu (32 bit) but don't want12:14
brenthto have major problems with my data.  I don't care about the apps, I'll find alternates but I don't want to lose my data.  Can I upgrade Ubuntu 17.04/17.10 to Lubuntu 17.10/18.04?12:15
tewardbrenth: technically yes?  But you should always take backups first.12:22
LioneLLyou must install  'Lubuntu-desktop' package then update & upgrade ...12:22
teward^ that as well12:22
brenthThe word "technically" seems replete with added implications?13:00
brenthI've been working with an Ubuntu 17.04 VM - I tried to upgrade by booting the Lubuntu 17.04 iso.  That worked ... sort of in that I installed Lubuntu in a 2nd13:02
brenthpartition and in parallel to Ubuntu ... so not exactly a solution13:03
plaindaveIs there a way to turn off my laptop's touchpad in Lubuntu 17.04?14:12
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plaindaveI found out, but thanks anyway. Just typed "synclient TouchpadOff=1" and it turned off my touchpad.14:41
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brenthexit16:32
brenthquit16:32
tudorrrHello. How can I switch Lubuntu's interface much similar to OSX' one?20:28
wxlfind an appropriate theme20:28
wxli don't know of one because i've never wanted one :)20:28
wxlyou can look on box-look20:28
tudorrrOk I look20:31
geniiMight want to also take a look at https://plus.google.com/+DavidBaileyDevilishDB/posts/9uDNg3xtUuN20:35
tudorrrSorry, does anyone know where I can find numix dark theme?20:49
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