[11:55] <rick_h> morning
[12:02] <dzho> morning
[12:02] <dzho> or, as some of us like to say elsewhere: morning--
[12:55] <widox> morning
[13:10] <jrwren> good morning
[13:30] <jrwren> i know it is silly, but there is something magical about the first time running imgcat in a terminal window and seeing an image appear.
[13:33] <cmaloney> :)
[14:03] <_stink__> jrwren++
[14:06] <Scary_Guy> no there's not, it's just code
[14:07] <Scary_Guy> admittedly neat code though
[14:08] <jrwren> Scary_Guy: you are wrong.
[14:09] <Scary_Guy> maybe... wait no
[14:10] <Scary_Guy> on a lot of things yes.  pretty sure I'm spot on with this one however
[14:13] <jrwren> a definition of magical is enchanting, meaning: pleasant; delightful. These are subjective feelings of experience and do describe experience using imgcat by me and others.
[14:15] <Scary_Guy> https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/magic :p
[14:15] <jrwren> !d magical
[14:15] <jrwren> http://www.thefreedictionary.com/magical
[14:16] <jrwren> you use your dictionary, i'll use mine. we can both be wrong and neither of us right.
[14:16] <Scary_Guy> thefreedictionary.com ...  get what you pay for I guess
[14:16] <cmaloney> Dammit let someone have their magic please. :)
[14:17] <cmaloney> We have enough non-magic in the world as it is
[14:17] <jrwren> its a trigger word for Scary_Guy because Jobs used it to describe apple projects, I'll bet.
[14:17] <Scary_Guy> no, we need more James Randi up in here
[14:17] <jrwren> I got to teleconference with him once. Very great guy.
[14:18] <cmaloney> James Randi made his living doing magical illusions. There's nothing wrong with finding wonder in perfectly-explainable phenomenon
[14:18] <Scary_Guy> I love how people say Jobs was so smart, and then he went ahead and died from a curable cancer
[14:18] <Scary_Guy> Randi doesn't call himself a magician though, but rather a conjurer
[14:18] <cmaloney> Jobs was a great business-person and showman. He was an idiot in other regards
[14:19] <Scary_Guy> Penn & Teller on the other hand...  but it's not like everyone agrees on everything
[14:19] <jrwren> Jobs, I never knew or met the man.
[14:20] <Scary_Guy> I thought you just said you teleconferenced with him?  was it just a telecast then?  Still neat I suppose
[14:20] <jrwren> with James Randi
[14:20] <Scary_Guy> oh
[14:21] <Scary_Guy> Well that's even cooler though
[14:22] <jrwren> He said bad things about charlatans and I realized if I were smarter I'd be a successful charlatan.
[14:22] <cmaloney> jrwren: Ayep
[14:22] <cmaloney> We've often talked about how to bilk people
[14:22] <cmaloney> and how those pesky morals get in the way
[14:22] <Scary_Guy> If I had less integrity I'd be a successful charlatan
[14:23] <cmaloney> Did you see the documentary "An Honest Liar"? Fascinating tale of him
[14:24] <Scary_Guy> yes, great work.  I've been a fan for years but the end threw me like woah
[14:24] <cmaloney> yeah
[14:24] <Scary_Guy> I like to send the gnostic atheists his video on how you can't prove a negative
[14:25] <Scary_Guy> and anyone who is into homeopothy any of his videos tearing it apart
[14:26] <Scary_Guy> also, if "magicians" had any less integrity, they'd all just be pickpockets
[14:29] <jrwren> how did I miss this? https://www.backblaze.com/blog/hard-drive-cost-per-gigabyte/?utm_source=Email&utm_medium=Newsletter-B2&utm_content=hdcostpergb-b&utm_campaign=Newsletter-20170728
[14:31] <Scary_Guy> I remember that spike in 2011.  I got two 2GB Seagate drives from Micro Center for $89 each, then everything shot up to crazy numbers because of some Tsunami in Thailand or something that took out a factory
[14:31] <Scary_Guy> oh, it's mentioned in it
[14:34] <Scary_Guy> does anyone here use XMPP with OMEMO support?
[15:08] <jrwren> https://www.theverge.com/transportation/2017/7/27/16052118/bollinger-b1-electric-sport-truck-outdoors  the word "tow" is not in the article, thus it is a complete failure.
[17:40] <dzho> want
[23:16] <rick_h> brousch: you here yet?