[00:02] <tomreyn> thedonny: you normally would not have any 777 files, unless intentionally.
[00:03] <tomreyn> those zone files should not be 777 either
[00:03] <bad63r> tomreyn, i have them too
[00:03] <bad63r> a lot
[00:04] <tomreyn> bad63r: which release are you on, can you paste a list?
[00:04] <bad63r> ubuntu 16.04. updated just hour ago
[00:05] <Apachez> plenty of "hash sum mismatch" from ubuntu official repos right now
[00:06] <Apachez>    Last modification reported: Thu, 27 Jul 2017 17:18:57 +0000
[00:06] <Apachez>    Release file created at: Thu, 27 Jul 2017 20:54:00 +0000
[00:06] <bad63r> tomreyn, kinda not sure if I can. first i have to skim it a little bit better. i don't feel comfortable sharing data from root just like that
[00:07] <tomreyn> bad63r: ok
[00:07] <bad63r> tomreyn, try command 'sudo find -perm 777 | less' and see it yourself sir
[00:07] <tomreyn> bad63r: none here
[00:08] <bad63r> tomreyn, try command 'sudo find / -perm 777 | less' and see it yourself sir
[00:08] <bad63r> i forgot directory which to search x_
[00:08] <tomreyn> thats what i did, also 16.04
[00:08] <tomreyn> Apachez: yes there seem to be some issues with the mirrors currently, no details known
[00:08] <thedonny> tomreyn, the thing is, I am almost positive I never modified the permissions of those files
[00:09] <tomreyn> Apachez: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+archivemirrors
[00:10] <tomreyn> thedonny: maybe they're from 3rd party packages?
[00:12] <oerheks> Apachez, what mirror exactly?
[00:12] <tomreyn> i wa sjust about to ask :)
[00:13] <wudo_honour> quit
[00:13] <Apachez> E: Failed to fetch http://se.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/zesty-backports/universe/dep11/Components-amd64.yml.xz  Hash Sum mismatch
[00:13] <thedonny> tomreyn, I don't have many. Just some things like fail2ban, LAMP (for laravel based website)
[00:13] <Apachez> 4 noticies of hash sum mismatch
[00:14] <thedonny> tomreyn, also just did a lynis system audit and had no warnings, just some suggestions
[00:15] <tomreyn> Apachez: /join #canonical-sysadmin - i pointed it out to t0mb0 there
[00:15] <tomreyn> s/he's looking into it now
[00:15] <Apachez> tnx
[00:16] <thedonny> tomreyn, what is the command you used to find the 777 permissions?
[00:17] <tomreyn> thedonny: sudo find / -type f -perm 777
[00:18] <thedonny> tomreyn: hmm ok so I guess it was the same command. Interesting that there are these differences, a little worried about security now..
[00:19] <thedonny> thing is I think tools like lynis are supposed to pick up incorrect/dangerous file permissions and I had no warnings come up
[00:21] <__Yiota> what permission mode code do I use for executable?
[00:22] <tomreyn> thedonny: lynis (just like any automatic auditing utility testing against generic policies) isn't perfect, and 777 is not necessarily wrong. it probably does check for suid / sguid binaries.
[00:23] <tomreyn> __Yiota: +x
[00:23] <__Yiota> right but is there a code for it?
[00:23] <__Yiota> 0644 / 0700 et
[00:23] <__Yiota> etc*
[00:24] <tomreyn> __Yiota: the execute bit is 1
[00:24] <tomreyn> man 1 chmod
[00:25] <__Yiota> sweet tx
[00:25] <thedonny> tomreyn: Yeah, I understand it wouldn't be a blanket solution, I just thought that if the permissions of those system files were dangerously derranged surely it would have been picked up
[00:26] <thedonny> tomreyn: not too sure where to go from here to determine if this is a problem or not
[00:30] <tomreyn> thedonny: you could post the files, we could comment, or you find a solution for yourself. ;)
[00:32] <thedonny> well I mean, i ran sudo find / -type f -perm 777 and had no results
[00:32] <thedonny> tomreyn the *potential* problem is without -type f
[00:33] <thedonny> tomreyn: e.g. sudo find / -perm 777
[00:35] <tomreyn> thedonny: 777 on other file objects is a completely different matter. can be fine (or not, depends)
[00:36] <oerheks> thedonny, try again, without sudo.
[00:36] <oerheks> that gives the real access to your account
[00:37] <tomreyn> symlinks are always 777
[00:38] <bobbydoogle> I have some simple bash scripts that inotify watch folders and rsync on changes. I'm running them in a ssh terminal to centos, I would like to run them silently and be able to logoff, is a good solution for this nohup, like nohup sh custom-script.sh &
[00:39] <bobbydoogle> oops centos this is ubuntu, should be applicable though
[00:39] <thedonny> oerheks, tomreyn: still getting a pretty big list without sudo, but the majority seem to be /lib/system, /sys/, /etc/apache2/mods-enabled/ etc
[00:39] <bobbydoogle> or is screen a better solution...
[00:40] <thedonny> plenty of /usr/ too
[00:40] <tomreyn> bobbydoogle: you could use incron
[00:43] <tomreyn> bobbydoogle: personally i'd prefer incron / cron / atd over screen / tmux over nohup, but as long as you'll redirect both stdout + stderr either should work.
[00:44] <tomreyn> redirect ... to a file, so you can review it later
[00:50] <snkcld> dnsmasq is configured as my resolver (the only thing in /etc/resolv.conf is "nameserver 127.0.0.1" which dnsmasq is listening on). when i curl a random domain (e.g. jadsjkdskjdskjdsa.com), as i follow the dnsmasq logs, i dont see the attempt being made
[00:51] <snkcld> in this case, is curl simply not respecting /etc/resolv.conf
[00:51] <snkcld> ?
[00:53] <tomreyn> snkcld: most utulities will use the glibc resolver, or systemd-resolved.service , i think
[00:53] <tomreyn> man systemd-resolved.service
[00:54] <snkcld> im stracing it, and i see that curl is doing a "sendmsg" with org.freedesktop.resolve1.Manager
[00:54] <snkcld> tomreyn: ah. is systemd-resolved what responds to org.freedesktop.resolve1.Manager ?
[00:55] <tomreyn> snkcld: i don't know :)
[00:55] <snkcld> tomreyn: looks like it is
[00:55] <snkcld> tomreyn: is it possible for me to just have everything do DNS via 127.0.0.1:53 ? lol
[00:55] <snkcld> or is that asking too much?
[00:56] <tomreyn> snkcld: if you'll have *everything* do DNS via 127.0.0.1:53 then you won't be able to resolve anything.
[00:57] <snkcld> tomreyn: my dnsmasq is configured to use 8.8.8.8 as an upstream
[00:59] <snkcld> i guess i can configured the "hosts" section of nsswitch.conf
[00:59] <tomreyn> snkcld: this sounds like it could work, but i'm not into this, so can't help, sorry.
[01:00] <snkcld> tomreyn: thanks
[01:02] <tomreyn> http://www.oreilly.com/openbook/linag2/book/ch06.html explains how the loose ends worked together in a pre-systemd world
[01:03] <snkcld> tomreyn: fwiw: setting "hosts:          dns" now seems to make curl use my local dns resolver via 127.0.0.1
[01:03] <snkcld> tomreyn: ahhh that is perfect! thanks
[01:04] <fl00fykittry> o i think ralink driver sucks on 16.04 may have answered my own question haha
[01:04] <tomreyn> welcome
[01:12] <fl00fykittry> actually anyone got a good link for the ralink driver for ubuntu? all the ones im seeing look dodgfy
[01:12] <fl00fykittry> dodgy
[01:13] <fl00fykittry> af
[01:14] <hewhomust> Hey, what application launcher do people recommend?
[01:19] <tomreyn> fl00fykittry: there is not *the* ralink driver, there are several, and many different chipsets
[01:20] <tomreyn> fl00fykittry: do you know the usb id / pci id?
[01:23] <fl00fykittry> pci@0000:02:00.0
[01:23] <fl00fykittry> hang on
[01:24] <fl00fykittry> *-network
[01:24] <fl00fykittry>        description: Wireless interface
[01:24] <fl00fykittry>        product: RT5390 Wireless 802.11n 1T/1R PCIe
[01:24] <fl00fykittry>        vendor: Ralink corp.
[01:24] <fl00fykittry>        physical id: 0
[01:24] <fl00fykittry>        bus info: pci@0000:02:00.0
[01:25] <fl00fykittry> apologies forgot how newline works
[01:25] <tomreyn> !pastebin | fl00fykittry
[01:25] <tomreyn> use lspci -nn
[01:26] <fl00fykittry> http://paste.ubuntu.com/25187629/
[01:29] <syntaks> after a random hangup via ryzen, GLX is missing reports X
[01:30] <syntaks> no one can log in using any manager other than xfce and one particular user
[01:30] <syntaks> others it just restarts lightdm
[01:30] <syntaks> has anyone had this happen before or have seen this case elsewhere?
[01:33] <tomreyn> fl00fykittry: rt2800pci
[01:33] <tomreyn> it's mainline
[01:38] <AndrewKemendo> Hello all. I have a paths question. I installed tensorflow via pip on Ubuntu 16.04 and it works but I can't actually find the install path and it's not under /usr/local/lib/python2.7
[01:50] <Zythyr> Need help. I used "sudo apt-get install lamp-server^" to install LAMP server on Ubuntu. HOwever it isntalled PHP 7. How do I get it to isntall PHP 5?
[01:54] <hggdh> Zythyr: php5 is not provied by Ubuntu for a few releases
[01:54] <Bashing-om> Andy80: What shows ' which tensorflow ; dpkg -L tensorflow ' ?
[01:55] <Zythyr> hggdh According to this it shows PHP 5 https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP#Checking_PHP_5_installation
[01:55] <tomreyn> Zythyr: your ubuntu release probably doesn't offer more than a single php version. there are some PPAs, notably Ondřej Surý's, which provide co-installable PHP versions
[01:55] <tomreyn> Zythyr: which ubuntu release do you have there?
[01:56] <Zythyr> tomreyn Ubuntu 16.04 LTS
[01:57] <tomreyn> Zythyr: you could install ubuntu 14.04 lts instead, which comes with php 5, or you could use this PPA on 16.04 https://launchpad.net/~ondrej/+archive/ubuntu/php/
[01:58] <tomreyn> Zythyr: or you could do the right thing and ditch and pre php7 code.
[01:58] <Zythyr> tomreyn Thanks. This might be a noobish quesiton but how do I first uninstall php7?
[02:00] <tomreyn> Zythyr: sudo apt-get purge php7
[02:00] <Zythyr> tomreyn Cool thank you! I'll try the PPA also
[02:00] <tomreyn> Zythyr: rather: sudo apt-get purge 'php7.*'
[02:01] <Zythyr> okay
[02:02] <tomreyn> also 'sudo apt-get purge libapache2-mod-php7.0' if you had that installed
[02:19] <Zythyr> tomreyn thank u very much. Eveyrhting worked!
[02:19] <jayjo> I have an ubuntu installed on a drive /dev/sda and also have a drive /dev/sdb that I would like to use as a filesystem for databases and potentially log files. It currently has some old installation on it now. what's the best way to format this drive knowing the intended use is for the whole drive to store data for processes managed by the os on /dev/sda
[02:36] <jayjo> am I supposed to be able to mount the drive that my system is running on? why can I even see that in nautitlis?
[02:57] <RonWhoCares> I use Ubuntu 16.04 desktop can I connect to an ip camera?
[02:59] <bazhang> RonWhoCares, sure
[03:00] <RonWhoCares> bazhang: I have no idea what to do.  What I have is an SSId and password
[03:00] <bazhang> !info bluecherry
[03:01] <RonWhoCares> That's a problem1
[03:02] <bazhang> https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2365067 RonWhoCares
[03:03] <RonWhoCares> It doesn't have an IP address yet that I know of
[03:03] <bazhang> RonWhoCares, there are plenty of online waLkthourghs on setting those up
[03:04] <RonWhoCares> OK
[03:04] <bazhang> RonWhoCares, use vlc to capture the rtsp stream, for example, please see the link I just gave you
[03:07] <ELQEYNN> I heard that "ubuntu" is a Zulu word for "humanity toward each other".
[03:08] <RonWhoCares> This is an SSID camera
[03:08] <RonWhoCares> I will read through this
[03:09] <ELQEYNN> I heard that "ubuntu" is a Zulu word for "humanity toward each other".
[03:10] <ELQEYNN> Is it really a Zulu word?
[03:18] <hggdh> ELQEYNN: I do not know if Zulu, but it is a word in a language in the South Africa area
[03:22] <Zythyr> tomreyn Still here?
[03:23] <ELQEYNN> hggdh, in Consumer Reports, there's a mention of ubuntu being developed for Sub-Saharan Africa.
[03:29] <jason_ray> hi
[03:30] <ELQEYNN> Hello jason
[03:45] <syntaks> this gets a bit stranger
[03:45] <syntaks> why would xfce work for user-b, but user-a it just loops back to lightdm
[03:50] <Bashing-om> syntaks: user-a lost aithorization to access the desktop ? What shows ' ls -al .ICEauthoriry .Xauthority ' at the F1 console interface ?
[03:51] <Bashing-om> .ICEauthority**
[03:51] <syntaks> checking now
[03:52] <lotuspsychje> good morning to all
[03:52] <syntaks> heh
[03:52] <syntaks> root owned
[03:52] <syntaks> wow
[03:53] <syntaks> doesn't make sense only after the ryzen hangup/reboot
[03:53] <Bashing-om> syntaks: Uh Huh .. been sudo'n where should not have been - likely .
[03:53] <syntaks> brb going to give it a go
[03:57] <gusgg> I am trying to build from source a package (dvgrab) on Ubuntu 16.04 and it appears to use pkg-config to build. However, I'm not really finding many .pc files on my system at all, and certainly not the one for the library dvgrab depends on (libraw1394). Is pkgconfig a thing in Ubuntu?
[04:00] <oerheks> !find pkgconfig
[04:00] <oerheks> i think you better follow the build manual
[04:00] <oerheks> !build
[04:07] <glitsj16> gusgg: you need libraw1394-dev .. ubuntu puts development files like .pc into separate packages
[04:07] <gusgg> oerheks: thanks for the pointer. Of course, the .pc files come when I install the -dev version of dependencies.
[04:08] <gusgg> glitsj16: :D Thanks for the answer
[04:08] <glitsj16> :) you found out on your own, np
[04:21] <zanshin> So I installed the i3 variant i3-gaps by building it from source. I'd like to remove it, however there is no make uninstall target. Short of some harry find command to hunt down all the bits and bobs, is there any way to excise i3-gaps from my system?
[04:25] <lotuspsychje> zanshin: perhaps the #i3 guys might know that?
[04:28] <zanshin> lotuspsychje: Mostly crickets in #i3 tonight. I'll have to wait until tomorrow when, hopefully, it'll be more active
[04:30] <c06> hi al
[04:30] <lotuspsychje> zanshin: just an idea, maybe installing i3-gaps the ubuntu repo way, might give you some right errors to solve?
[04:31] <c06> i am accessing my remote machine through ssh i dont internet connection to that machine . how i can do that. i dont to make my interface down
[04:31] <c06> **want
[04:35] <zanshin> lotuspsychje: You mean `sudo apt-get install i3-gaps` basically, and see what falls off the wagon?
[04:36] <lotuspsychje> c06: perhaps the #openssh channel can help on this matter?
[04:36] <lotuspsychje> zanshin: yeah that was the idea, to see what apt would find as wrong
[04:38] <glitsj16> zanshin: try lotuspsychje's idea OR you could build it again using checkinstall this time, which creates a proper .deb to install/purge via dpkg/apt --> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CheckInstall
[04:39] <c06> lotuspsychje: ty for suggestion i commented my nameserver in resolv.conf
[04:39] <zanshin> lotuspsychje: It isn't that i3-gaps is borked, I just would rather have vanillia i3. But it's worth a shot.
[04:40] <zanshin> lotuspsychje: E: Unable to locate package i3-gapsA
[04:44] <zanshin> glitsj16: I'll try that. Thanks
[04:51] <glitsj16> zanshin: my guess is that when you install the created .deb via sudo dpkg -i, it will complain about existing files, which gets you what you're after.. depending on the number of files to purge you might find it easier to 'sudo dpkg --force-overwrite -i foo.deb' and 'sudo apt purge foo' (if that makes sense)
[04:54] <zanshin> glitsj16: Ok. I'm still trying to get checkinstall to build the .deb. Past my bedtime and my thought processes are no longer sharp.
[04:55] <glitsj16> zanshin: sleep on it, take a fresh look at it later, and #i3 might have less crickets by then also
[04:57] <glitsj16> zanshin: if you didn't change the .configure --prefix things should be relatively easy to track down under /usr/local
[04:59] <zanshin> The prefix was /usr, so everything appears to be in /usr/bin with some documentation in /usr/share. It's tempting to just remove those files manually, but I'll give checkinstall a try first.
[04:59] <jayjo_> My machine is now going to GNU Grub allowing me to press enter to select an os. this never came up before. I had multiple OS's before. Do I need to hcange a boot setting?
[05:03] <trevorj> Man
[05:03] <trevorj> I really hate systemd
[05:03] <trevorj> It's trash
[05:03] <glitsj16> zanshin: yeah, that would be the more reliable thing to do
[05:03] <trevorj> I loved upstart, and I miss it every time I have to write a freaking dosini file for systemd
[05:03] <trevorj> Because, yeah, why not use freaking *ini*
[05:04] <trevorj> :(
[05:06] <Bashing-om> last uiduser
[05:13] <rajivmars> hi all. i have ubuntu 16.04 running laptop. now i need to use matlab for some of my projects therefore i need to install windows. i have ubuntu installed by using uefi and 200 gb free space is available. i would like to know that is it possible to install windows alongside ubuntu in uefi?
[05:17] <c06> rajivmars: i think first u have to install windows and then u have to install ubuntu
[05:19] <rajivmars> c06: i heard that in uefi that does not matters, although i don't clearly know about it that's why i asked.
[05:19] <rajivmars> c06, is it possible to use matlab using wine.
[05:19] <c06> rajivmars: i havent tried i went with windows then ubuntu better make a try
[05:19] <c06> rajivmars: no idea about matlab
[05:20] <trevorj> c06: while it *works* under wine, it runs like shit
[05:21] <trevorj> Maybe it's better nowadays
[05:21] <c06> matlab is heavy application from my view
[05:21] <trevorj> But a year ago it was not good
[05:21] <rajivmars> trevorj: ohh
[05:21] <trevorj> c06: I run it under kvm now
[05:21] <trevorj> c06: It's the only reason I have the VM.
[05:22] <c06> trevorj: nice better rajivmars u create a windows VM.. :-D
[05:23] <rajivmars> trevorj: please see my first question, and tell me if u have any experience about it.
[05:24] <trevorj> rajivmars: The first question I see from you is about uefi
[05:24] <rajivmars> yeah
[05:24] <trevorj> rajivmars: Is that related to your matlab question?
[05:24] <rajivmars> yes
[05:24] <trevorj> Care to explain a little deeper?
[05:25] <trevorj> Sorry, just want to make sure I understand the question properly :)
[05:26] <rajivmars> i needed to run matlab, but if its not possible to install windows alongside an already installed ubuntu then i am going to use VM.
[05:27] <trevorj> You can do either just fine
[05:27] <trevorj> For the latter: Prep your hard disk using gparted from a livecd beforehand
[05:27] <trevorj> Just make some free space, and backup your uefi/mbr, because windows *will* overwrite it
[05:28] <trevorj> er, former*
[05:28] <rajivmars> trevorj: i think i should have go with VM.
[05:28] <trevorj> For the latter (vm, which I recommend), it's super easy and avoids the context switch
[05:28] <rajivmars> thats looks a better option to me
[05:28] <trevorj> I used some ksm win2k12 iso I have for work
[05:29] <trevorj> vbox is also a solid bet
[05:29] <trevorj> And it's definitely easier to configure
[05:29] <trevorj> (for windows in particular)
[05:29] <rajivmars> yeah that's why i go with it.
[05:30] <trevorj> Don't blame you
[05:30] <trevorj> I'm pretty sure I just like pain
[05:30] <rajivmars> haha:) thanks for help
[05:30] <trevorj> Anytime bud
[05:31] <rajivmars> sure
[05:31] <trevorj> Need anything else, don't hesitate to reach out
[05:32] <MKN-dev-LINUX> o/
[05:52] <jayjo_> is my /boot/grub/grub.cfg file supposed to detail my OTHER operating system?
[05:54] <jayjo_> I have two disks (internal) with two separate copies of ubuntu. One on each disk. Now I boot into GRUB and have to choose which one to boot into. How do I edit the bootloader to automatically boot into one of the OS's?
[07:41] <DarekDeo> Is there any automated way to fix listed duplicated software? Mean .desktop files mostly. For instance I have 3x Nautilus .desktop files in usr/share/applications. I tried cleaning it up one day but then app stopped displaying itself in search results, probably deleted wrong .desktop file but I have feeling like sometimes duplicates of .desktop files are necessary because one is meant to appear in search results where second is for instance meant to appea
[07:41] <DarekDeo> r in "run as"? I am using gnome desktop and I see duplicates in search settings, it looks like this: http://i.imgur.com/tGAVL41.png The reason I have this issue might be because I've manually installed ubuntu-gnome-desktop then removed unity* and lightdm, after that I also did do-release-upgrade twice (from 16.04 to 17.04)
[07:57] <BMT1> hey i want ask something please the install smtp server it look like sendmail?
[07:58] <user401> i'm connecting x3270 to hercules emulator but x3270 window's text is messed up
[08:01] <user401> i'm connecting x3270 to hercules emulator but x3270 window's text is messed up. c3270 also shows scrambled text. anyone?
[08:03] <user401> i'm connecting x3270 to hercules emulator but x3270 window's text is messed up. c3270 also shows scrambled text. anyone? am using 16.04
[08:06] <user401> i'm connecting x3270 to hercules emulator but x3270 window's text is messed up. c3270 also shows scrambled text. anyone? am using 16.04
[08:07] <senaps> hi guys... on ubuntu 17.04 docky isn't autoruning anymore... is there a solution for that?
[08:11] <user401> i'm connecting x3270 to hercules emulator but x3270 window's text is messed up. c3270 also shows scrambled text. anyone? am using 16.04
[08:16] <sylario> I just installed zsh and ran the install script, I now have a incredibly minimalist invite, only the hostname with a %, no directory no colors
[08:16] <sylario> Is it normal?
[08:28] <notdaniel> sylario, yeah. youll want to set it up properly. ohmyzsh is of course the most popular and jam-packed with everything, but not for everybody
[08:28] <notdaniel> sylario, i'm personally a fan of pure: https://github.com/sindresorhus/pure
[08:28] <notdaniel> (of course, 95% of zsh is just in taking the time to configure everything as you want)
[08:29] <sylario> just found the prompts command
[08:30] <sylario> and I must find the plugin to show the git branch
[08:31] <|Night|> anyone remember that pastebin where you could post directly from terminal?  no fance gui just text
[08:31] <notdaniel> |Night|, termbin?
[08:32] <|Night|> notdaniel: looks like it but used one a month or so ago that just hat text even on root it was blank
[08:33] <|Night|> and worked thought my firewall :p, have to trace it ti find which port it is using unless you already know it?
[08:33] <notdaniel> |Night|, http://termbin.com/jvxg
[08:33] <notdaniel> this seems to be pretty much as you describe
[08:34] <|Night|> yeah I can use that it  works as I want, il ladd port 9999 to my fw
[08:34] <notdaniel> unless you dont like this for some reason. does pasting via nc not work?
[08:34] <|Night|> not when csf is enabled
[08:35] <notdaniel> why is your outgoing so strict hah
[08:40] <|Night|> notdaniel:  should it not be .p
[08:40] <|Night|> only reason i respond to icmp on v6 is since it would brake my v6 if i did not
[08:48] <dan2wik> What is the recommended way to get ubuntu onto a usb drive?
[08:48] <notdaniel> just download the iso, and use dd
[08:49] <dan2wik> I should have said, I'm on windows btw.
[08:49] <notdaniel> ah
[08:49] <notdaniel> Rufus then
[08:49] <dan2wik> Cool, thanks
[08:52] <|Night|> dan2wik:  nc used random port in 49050-49060 range for outbound
[08:53] <dan2wik> Hmm?
[08:53] <vimal2012> I am runnig ubuntu 17.04 (zesty).  How to configure dual monitors? In previous versions of ubuntu there was an entry called "Displays" in launcher. I couldn't find it in the current version.  My system settings look like this https://unsee.cc/nibatode/
[08:55] <Ben64> vimal2012: it should be there somewhere, or you could use nvidia-settings if you have an nvidia card
[08:55] <vimal2012> No, I have intel card
[08:55] <vimal2012> What command can I type, to launch "Displays"?
[08:55] <dan2wik> |Night|, I think you might be after a different person.
[08:55] <Ben64> idk
[08:57] <vimal2012> I searched ccsm also. I couldn't find anything to configure dual monitors.
[08:57] <Ben64> well it wouldn't be there
[09:12] <|Night|> dan2wik: /r  notdaniel
[09:16] <|Night|> notdaniel:  it was clbin
[09:16] <notdaniel> cool
[09:16] <notdaniel> hadnt seen that one
[09:18] <|Night|> works great would be nice if it was a short command like | paste
[09:18] <|Night|> but that can be scripted i asume
[09:19] <|Night|> need to figure out how to script commands trown after  an "|"
[09:23] <Apachez> are there any maintainer alive regarding casper?
[09:50] <dan2wik> I'm getting "Failed to load ldlinux.c32" after making a usb drive with rufus.
[09:50] <bazhang> dan2wik, making it with rufus on what os
[09:50] <dan2wik> On windows.
[09:50] <bazhang> dan2wik, then chck windows support, we have no idea about rufus
[09:51] <dan2wik> Where would I go for windows support?
[09:52] <bazhang> ##windows
[09:52] <dan2wik> I highly doubt they would help me with a syslinux issue.
[09:52] <bazhang> dan2wik, it's windows softwrae on a windows OS
[09:53] <dan2wik> But the problem is happening once I try to boot the USB drive.
[09:53] <bazhang> dan2wik, I will go to the proper channel with you
[09:53] <bazhang>  /j ##windows
[09:55] <kaideng> hello
[09:56] <Lachezar> Hey all. Docker is installed from package, but it won't start after reboot, only when I execute any docker command does it start. How come? Is it some systemd sh*t?
[09:56] <Lachezar> I can see /etc/rc.5/S01docker but docker does not start.
[09:58] <meldron> hey guys, recently i have a problem with my gnome key ring server, it wont get auto unlocked after login into unity and chrome for example will hang a really long time until it gives up to access the key storage; my manual fix is to kill the gnome-keyring-daemon and then unlock my keyring. anyboy here with a fix for this problem? Thank!
[10:18] <BluesKaj> Howdy folks
[10:20] <yasonTR> Hi all, I might need some help. I am running Ubuntu 16.04 and my PC has become VERY slow suddenly. When I move my mouse, it takes 10 seconds to see it move on the screen. I was doing a lot of high-memory required stuff (compiling, tomcat instsances, ...). It's just 'hanging' for 30 minutes now. Is there anything I can do, or just wait it out? FYI, I remember that I set swappiness to 1 some months ago.
[10:21] <notdaniel> look at your logs, look at top, find out what's actually causing it
[10:21] <yasonTR> the thing is, I can't do anything on the pc
[10:21] <yasonTR> it's just SO slow
[10:22] <yasonTR> I clicked on shell icon to open shell 15 minutes ago, still not open
[10:22] <yasonTR> clock is also 30 minutes behind :)
[10:22] <notdaniel> yasonTR, try changing to a tty?
[10:23] <notdaniel> i do that when gnome wont respond and i need to see what's happening
[10:23] <yasonTR> you mean ctrl-shift-fx?
[10:23] <notdaniel> yeah
[10:23] <notdaniel> if you can
[10:23] <yasonTR> ok will do
[10:23] <yasonTR> what should I execute after i login?
[10:23] <notdaniel> look at top and see what's eating up your resources
[10:23] <yasonTR> ok
[10:23] <notdaniel> kill any obvious processes doing it
[10:24] <yasonTR> i tried it now, tty is not opening ... i'll wait, hopefully it comes
[10:24] <yasonTR> the only thing that is responsive is the mouse, but as said, 10 seconds later and very stuttering
[10:24] <notdaniel> haha
[10:24] <notdaniel> yeah a hard reset might be required
[10:25] <notdaniel> and check logs afterwards
[10:25] <yasonTR> was setting swappines to 1 a bad idea?
[10:25] <yasonTR> I did that a few months ago, thought it was a good idea
[10:25] <yasonTR> (maybe it's not related)
[10:26] <notdaniel> 1 isnt great unless your machine is has like 512mb of ram
[10:26] <yasonTR> isn't it the other way around?
[10:26] <yasonTR> i mean, afaik, swappiness to 1 forces the OS to use first ram, and swap as less as possible
[10:27] <yasonTR> so swappiness is great if you have lots of ram?
[10:27] <BluesKaj> don't think swapiness has much to do with your issue, there's some other app(s) eating up cpu resources
[10:27] <yasonTR> ok
[10:28] <yasonTR> anyway, i'll give it some time, hopefully the tty will come up
[10:28] <yasonTR> but i suspect that keys are just timing out, or something
[10:28] <notdaniel> yeah i dont think swappiness is the factor
[10:28] <notdaniel> i have a couple crapppy machines so one of them does this a few times a week
[10:28] <notdaniel> if i dont get to the tty fast enuogh it never recovers without a reboot
[10:29] <yasonTR> oh no
[10:29] <notdaniel> in my case i know what causes it and just dont do anthing about it
[10:29] <yasonTR> that's odd
[10:29] <notdaniel> but yeah some process gone rogue
[10:29] <notdaniel> i probably wouldnt wait to reboot. it's unlikely to recover at this point
[10:29] <yasonTR> damn that sucks
[10:30] <yasonTR> i had some unsaved development notes
[10:30] <yasonTR> which i cannot remember but were important :)
[10:30] <notdaniel> gah
[10:31] <notdaniel> autosave? my left hand has been on 'ctrl-s every 5 seconds' autopilot since, oh, 2010 or something
[10:31] <yasonTR> yeah i know
[10:32] <jashdj> I have a few mobile devices connected to hotspot from my machine. I want to access local development server which I have running on local.example.com on my machine. The domain is a hosts entry.
[10:32] <yasonTR> wow, it just switched to another workspace!
[10:32] <yasonTR> i did that maybe 20 minutes ago
[10:33] <yasonTR> it's still kicking
[10:33] <jashdj> I set up squid on the machine because I cannot change the hosts entry for the mobile to point to my machine. However, I cannot resolve the host over squid
[10:33] <jashdj> I have set up `acl all src all` and `http_access allow all`
[10:34] <tomreyn> yasonTR: i'd just reboot in that situation unless there's good reasons not to?
[10:34] <yasonTR> tomreyn: i would love to have my notes saved
[10:35] <tomreyn> notes in a text editor on the gui? take a photo if they're all on screen
[10:35] <yasonTR> good idea :) but it's behind other windows
[10:35] <yasonTR> in text editor yeah (scite)
[10:36] <tomreyn> do you have an ssh server running and another system available log login to it?
[10:36] <yasonTR> the thing is, i wasn't doing any special, just a lot at once (compiling, tomcat, ...)
[10:36] <yasonTR> that's a good idea, i'll try that
[10:36] <tomreyn> don't ctrl-c if it takes forever to login
[10:36] <tomreyn> just wait
[10:37] <notdaniel> if even a tty doesnt work... haha
[10:37] <notdaniel> i do attempt from ssh myself though in these times
[10:39] <yasonTR> doh, nope, sshd is not running it seems
[10:39] <yasonTR> i can ping, but no ssh
[10:39] <Richard_Cavell> I'd like to create an archive (such as a zip file) of my entire home directory, for backup purposes.  What's the best way to do that?
[10:40] <tomreyn> yasonTR: you could gamble and try magic sysrq k, but i think that's disabled by default for security reasons.
[10:40] <de-facto> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem/TAR
[10:41] <yasonTR> ok
[10:41] <yasonTR> sad day for me!
[10:42] <de-facto> na sysrq always should work
[10:42] <de-facto> keep pressing ctrl alt print while slowly typing letters R E I S U B
[10:43] <tomreyn> that'll loose data
[10:43] <yasonTR> yeah, i do not want to loose data
[10:43] <BluesKaj> Richard_Cavell,  /home , right click in the file, compress to target path is one method
[10:43] <de-facto> wouldnt it sync before reboot?
[10:43] <yasonTR> i have unsaved text editor open
[10:44] <de-facto> oh thats bad then
[10:45] <tomreyn> de-facto: try for yourself (if you have a default configuration), press sysrq-r
[10:45] <tomreyn> you'll notice r + e + i are dasbled
[10:45] <tomreyn> s + +b aren't
[10:45] <tomreyn> s + u + b aren't
[10:45] <de-facto> i think it worked for me if i remember correctly
[10:46] <tomreyn> that's the impression you got since s + u + b work
[10:46] <BluesKaj> REISUB is a last resort tho
[10:46] <de-facto> yes could very well be the case
[10:46] <BluesKaj>  it does work if really needed
[10:47] <Langley> Help, I ran out of disk space on my 16.04 machine and now it's completely crapped itself. It boots up to command line with the screen blinking every half second, it only accepts input during that half second timeframe so login is impossible. I managed to free some space in Recovery mode but didn't help
[10:48] <tomreyn> BluesKaj: r + e + i won't work on a default installation, no
[10:48] <BluesKaj> yasonTR,  does ctl+escape bring up system monitor ?
[10:48] <tomreyn> cat /etc/sysctl.d/10-magic-sysrq.conf
[10:48] <BluesKaj> tomreyn,  mine is default install and it works
[10:48] <yasonTR> WOW, my pc is suddenly back responsive
[10:49] <yasonTR> as if nothing happened
[10:49] <tomreyn> BluesKaj: what is "it"?
[10:49] <yasonTR> top: nothing special
[10:49] <yasonTR> which logs should i check to see what happened the last hour?
[10:49] <tomreyn> yasonTR: syslog, the reason it's now responsive is most likely because OOM killer kicked in.
[10:50] <BluesKaj> tomreyn,  and what do you mean by :"default:" ?  :-)
[10:50] <yasonTR> thank you developer/inventor of oom killer
[10:50] <jashdj> Can someone help me with configuring squid proxy?
[10:51] <tomreyn> BluesKaj: kernel.sysrq = 176 in /etc/sysctl.d/10-magic-sysrq.conf
[10:51] <BluesKaj> yasonTR,  bet it was unattended updates running in the background
[10:51] <tomreyn> BluesKaj: default, ias in an unmodified ubuntu instlalation
[10:51] <BluesKaj> ok and what is unmodified?
[10:52] <yasonTR> out of memory: kill process 7255 (chrome) score 329 or sacrifice schild
[10:52] <yasonTR> (i copied that)
[10:52] <tomreyn> BluesKaj: do you read what i write?
 BluesKaj: kernel.sysrq = 176 in /etc/sysctl.d/10-magic-sysrq.conf
[10:52] <yasonTR> i had several instances of chrome running yes
[10:53] <BluesKaj> yup, and I''m asking what unmodified means , like adding non default apps from the thr epos for example
[10:53] <BluesKaj> the repos
[10:53] <Langley> Oh thankfully looks like I fixed it by emptying trash
[10:54] <tomreyn> BluesKaj: even an ubuntu minimal installation would have the setting i discussed above. it does not matter which packages oyu install.
[10:54] <yasonTR> 6 instances of chrome were killed in the last hour
[10:54] <yasonTR> oh man
[10:54] <yasonTR> at least i got my notes saved
[10:54] <tomreyn> yasonTR: congrats. and yes, chrome can be very memory hungry
[10:55] <yasonTR> funny thing is, all my chrome windows are still open and working
[10:55] <yasonTR> so i guess chrome is stubborn and auto restarts or something
[10:55] <tomreyn> yasonTR: maybe soem tabs will show a crashed renderer.
[10:56] <yasonTR> oh yeah, exactly, you are right
[10:56] <BluesKaj> tomreyn,  I just know that REISUB has worked for me in the past and whatever that path is that you posted really doesn' t mean much to me
[10:56] <yasonTR> so euh, does this mean that each tab is a separate process?
[10:56] <tomreyn> BluesKaj: yes, SUB worked in the past and still works now, just REI does not.
[10:56] <tomreyn> that's what i said all the time ;)
[10:56] <BluesKaj> oh lord
[10:57] <yasonTR> don't fight be happy
[10:57] <BluesKaj> tasslehoff,  it's just silly that's all
[10:58] <yasonTR> is there anything i can do to prevent these kind of situations?
[10:58] <BluesKaj> yasonTR, ^
[10:58] <yasonTR> i mean, i was just doing a lot at once, but nothing spectecular
[10:59] <tomreyn> yasonTR: do not consume more ram than you have available ;-)
[10:59] <yasonTR> ofcourse :)
[10:59] <BluesKaj> yasonTR,  chrome is kind of a heavy on resources , especially on java heavy websites, also sometime unattaeneded upgrades will slow things down while it upgrades packages in the background
[10:59] <core[BDC]> hi , i need little help with installing ttf fonts from windows folder
[11:00] <yasonTR> BluesKaj: i cannot find anything about updates in the logs, so i don't think that was the case right now
[11:00] <bazhang> core[BDC], you get those from ubuntu-restricted-extras
[11:00] <core[BDC]> when i double click on any ttf font it says couldnt display
[11:01] <yasonTR> but i mean, 'do not consume more ram than i have available', can i alter configurations that my os just stops the application instead of fighting with itself for more than an hour? (stupid question probably)
[11:01] <bazhang> core[BDC], use the proper way to install them then
[11:01] <tomreyn> Langley: i'd say get back into recovery and check how much disk space is now available on each of your file systems, and take a look at the X error log
[11:01] <BluesKaj> yasonTR,  I see, well hope you find what it was, so you can avois the same situation in the future
[11:01] <core[BDC]> please tell me how
[11:01] <yasonTR> BluesKaj: i was just doing 'a lot', that's all
[11:01] <yasonTR> i had a lot of tomcat instances and chrome tabs open
[11:02] <bazhang> install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[11:02] <bazhang> core[BDC], ^
[11:02] <BluesKaj> yasonTR,  yeah sounds "busy"
[11:02] <yasonTR> for an hour :)
[11:02] <yasonTR> i wish it was still possible to open a tty and kill -9 a process when it is busy :(
[11:03] <core[BDC]> bazhang: thanks, installing
[11:03] <bazhang> welcome
[11:03] <yasonTR> actually, it behaves like my girlfriend, when she is busy, i have to wait an hour to talk to her
[11:03] <geirha> the reason it gets so sluggish is that it has used up physical mem, and starts shuffeling memory between swap (on disk) and ram, back and forth
[11:03] <bazhang> yasonTR, lets stick to topical here
[11:04] <yasonTR> yeah i get that, but it would be nice if i could still open the tty, and have my chrome, tomcat, ... a lower priority or something
[11:04] <Ryvius> Is there any way to limit how much space Trash can take?
[11:05] <core[BDC]> bazhang: still i cant open ttf file
[11:05] <core[BDC]> :(
[11:05] <core[BDC]> do i need to restart system?
[11:05] <bazhang> core[BDC], It wont have installed that fast
[11:06] <bazhang> core[BDC], did you hit the eula
[11:06] <core[BDC]> i installed it by typing sudo apt-get
[11:06] <geirha> well, you can disable swap, then instead of entering swap-hell, OOM-killer will just kill a process that uses a lot of ram
[11:07] <BluesKaj> yasonTR,  on kde we have process called system activity which shows what pids are active and how much% of resources certain apps/processes are using with the option to terminate or kill etc , ctl+escape
[11:07] <bazhang> core[BDC], then it gets to a license agreemnt
[11:07] <bazhang> core[BDC], did you OK that
[11:07] <yasonTR> BluesKaj: yup,i know, but none of the keys shortcuts were working (open terminal, ctrl-escape, ...)
[11:07] <core[BDC]> After this operation, 58.2 MB of additional disk space will be used.
[11:07] <core[BDC]> Do you want to continue? [Y/n] y
[11:08] <yasonTR> also ctrl-shift-fx wasn't
[11:08] <core[BDC]> it only asked me once for conformation
[11:08] <BluesKaj> that's not good , yasonTR
[11:08] <bazhang> core[BDC], there is no 'opening', leave the windows fonts alone
[11:08] <bazhang> core[BDC], thats not it, no
[11:08] <yasonTR> indeed :P
[11:08] <BluesKaj> then the only thing to do is wait it out
[11:09] <yasonTR> okay
[11:09] <core[BDC]> hmm
[11:09] <yasonTR> anyway, good to know that oom reaper kicks in at a certain point
[11:09] <bazhang> core[BDC], once it is finally ready to build/isntall them a white screen with OK will appear
[11:10] <yasonTR> thank you all!
[11:10] <yasonTR> i'm back to work
[11:10] <bazhang> core[BDC], tab to it and hit enter
[11:10] <BluesKaj> yasonTR,  good luck
[11:10] <yasonTR> thanks!
[11:10] <bazhang> core[BDC], this will take more than one or two minutes
[11:11] <core[BDC]> bazhang: https://pastebin.com/u3ZPVekS can you take a look at this please
[11:15] <yasonTR> it seems that my Unison backup sync also kicked in last hour
[11:17] <ioria> core[BDC], you did a do-release-upgrade ?
[11:25] <BluesKaj> yasonTR,  not using rsync, but i suppose automated setting can be more convenient
[11:26] <yasonTR> BluesKaj: I am not quire sure I understand whay you mean?
[11:27] <BluesKaj> yasonTR, https://superuser.com/questions/97497/one-way-syncing-backup-with-unison
[11:28] <yasonTR> ok thank you!
[11:33] <core[BDC]> ioria: no
[11:35] <ioria> core[BDC],  ubuntu-restricted-extras has been installed correctly ?
[11:36] <core[BDC]> i think yes, but i am not sure
[11:37] <core[BDC]> i think font viewer is broken
[11:37] <ioria> core[BDC],   dpkg -l ubuntu-restricted-extras
[11:38] <core[BDC]> ioria: https://pastebin.com/wxbwmV2Z
[11:38] <ioria> core[BDC],   it's ok
[11:42] <core[BDC]> ioria: http://imgur.com/a/KV4uI getting this error when i am trying to open ttf file
[11:45] <ioria> core[BDC],   did you reboot ?
[11:45] <core[BDC]> no, not yet
[11:48] <core[BDC]> installed font-manager , it worked :)
[11:49] <core[BDC]> http://fontmanager.github.io
[11:58] <steves_> hi i have read a lot but the applications and software applet fails to run it spins up but goes no further. im running ubuntu 16.04 lts, so far everything ive tried has failed to restore this. i dont want to have to resort to a new intall. thanks for any help
[12:02] <BluesKaj> steves_,  you didn't mention whether the apps oprn or not
[12:02] <BluesKaj> open
[12:03] <steves_> sorry the app doesnt open just sins and then nothing
[12:03] <steves_> *spins
[12:04] <steves_> its the ubuntu software applet not starting up
[12:08] <steves_> also fails to launch from the search menu
[12:12] <steves_> any one can help?
[12:14] <BluesKaj> have to ask steves_ , all packages up to date?
[12:14] <steves_> yes and run this today as well
[12:15] <DarekDeo> I would simply go for: sudo apt purge gnome-software ubuntu-software sudo apt autoremove sudo apt install gnome-software ubuntu-software
[12:16] <BluesKaj> steves_,  in the terminal , dbus-launch application , just choose one
[12:17] <soee> is there some alternative to Peak app if we want to make gif  from screen actions ?
[12:21] <steves_> rebooting be back
[12:35] <Steves_> still no joy ubuntu software doesnt open
[12:40] <minimec> Steves_: Try to launch it from the terminal with "gnome-software --verbose" to get some debugging information
[12:44] <GumiBot> Hello! I've just installed Ubuntu 17.10 on a laptop I'm using every day just to test it and help the development. I'v already found some bugs but I'm not sure if these are realted to Ubuntu itself. Can I still report them to the Ubuntu team?
[12:45] <teward> GumiBot: #ubuntu+1 for 17.10 issues, but yes if you think they're a bug file a bug against the packages in question.
[12:46] <Steves_> im in process of reinstalling this again after the latest update will get back to you!
[12:46] <GumiBot> teward, thanks! :)
[12:50] <xyz111> Hi Guys, need a bit of help with a phantom cron job! I have a cron job that runs at 00:36 each day, but I can't find it's definition. I've looked in crontab -l and even /etc/cron.* ... I have no idea where it's stored and I need to modify it. Funny thing is I remember setting it up using crontab -e
[12:50] <xyz111> any ideas where it could be defined/
[12:50] <xyz111> I can see that it runs every day according to my logs
[12:53] <Pici> xyz111: check /var/log/auth.log to see what user the session is being run as, that might point you in the right direction as to what users cron it is setup in.
[12:53] <Peyam> hi, Trying to install eclipse using 'make' it says make: *** No rule to make target 'ide'.  Stop. when using make ide eclipse
[12:55] <Peyam> ohh it is umake. not make
[12:55] <xyz111> Pici: I see the following line: 4852:Jul 24 00:36:01 ip-172-31-17-221 CRON[24150]: (root) CMD (/home/ubuntu/certbot/certbot-auto renew --quiet --no-self-upgrade)
[12:56] <xyz111> looks like root, no?
[12:56] <xyz111> so sudo crontab -e should have it
[12:56] <xyz111> but it doesn't :(
[12:57] <EriC^^> xyz111: check other places
[12:57] <Steves_> is there a wayto repair the installation? if this is still a problem sorry new to linux
[12:58] <EriC^^> xyz111: try "sudo grep -R certbot /etc"
[12:58] <Peyam> Steves_, how do you mean? what went wrong
[12:58] <EriC^^> xyz111: and "sudo grep -R certbot /var/spool/cron"
[12:59] <Steves_> sorry the software center doesnt launch 16.04
[13:00] <Steves_> have reinstalled the software centre but still not launching and have updated today and run upgrade
[13:01] <Steves_> causes a bit of a problem searching for software
[13:02] <DarekDeo> Steves_ you reinstalled it with the commands I've provided earlier? Together with autoremove and purge?
[13:02] <Steves_> yes and gnome updated
[13:02] <DarekDeo> what about running it with "gnome-software --verbose" from terminal? does it print anything useful?
[13:03] <Steves_> that list was huge
[13:03] <Steves_> ill run it again now ive reinstalled that package
[13:04] <Peyam> DarekDeo, should he run purge and reinstall again? wouldnt that help?
[13:04] <DarekDeo> running simply "gnome-software" without --verbose might print an error too, maybe it will be enough
[13:05] <DarekDeo> i believe he runned purge, i told earlier to do: "sudo apt purge gnome-software ubuntu-software sudo apt autoremove sudo apt install gnome-software ubuntu-software" but seems like it did not help
[13:06] <Peyam> is it gnome or unity?
[13:06] <DarekDeo> on 16.04 software center is the same for gnome and unity
[13:07] <Peyam> Steves_, are you sure that there isnt any USC running in background? can you please run killall software-center?
[13:07] <xyz111> EriC^^ : nope, nothing matched
[13:07] <EriC^^> xyz111: are you sure the cron has recently run?
[13:08] <xyz111> I've even grep'd the entire system!
[13:08] <EriC^^> xyz111: aha
[13:09] <xyz111> yeah, ran this morning: Jul 28 00:36:01 ip-172-31-17-221 CRON[24438]: (root) CMD (/home/ubuntu/certbot/certbot-auto renew --quiet --no-self-upgrade)
[13:09] <xyz111> I like the sound of "aha"
[13:10] <Peyam> EriC^^, xyz111 some pronounce it like "ahaaaaaaaaa" and some "AAha". has different sounds in my head
[13:10] <EriC^^> xyz111: it was more like an "oh i see"
[13:10] <EriC^^> :D
[13:11] <Peyam> like "aha" in "hmmmmm"
[13:11] <EriC^^> nah, more like an "ah"
[13:11] <xyz111> Peyam: lol, I thought it was the sound of someone who has worked something out...
[13:13] <xyz111> a bit of a crazy situation though... I've been using cron for about 12 years now, and never seen anything as puzzling as this!
[13:13] <EriC^^> xyz111: if cron's running it, it must be in a file somewhere
[13:13] <Steves_> thats says no process found
[13:13] <xyz111> yeah
[13:13] <xyz111> is there a way to get cron to list everything it's running?
[13:13] <Peyam> Steves_, allright. cd run " cd ~/.config "
[13:13] <xyz111> for all users?
[13:14] <EriC^^> xyz111: i dont think so
[13:14] <Peyam> Steves_, and then " mv software-center software-center.old "
[13:14] <Peyam> Steves_, then " sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get --purge --reinstall install software-center " and try this time
[13:14] <EriC^^> xyz111: try "sudo grep -R "certbot-auto" /etc /var/spool"
[13:15] <EriC^^> xyz111: something has to come up
[13:15] <Steves_> no such file or directory daft as ive just installed it
[13:15] <core[BDC]> terminal is always sudo, it never asks for passowrd, how do i fix it?
[13:16] <Peyam> Steves_, try to run USC and then if it works great! doesnt work. try those commands
[13:16] <Peyam> core[BDC], if you run sudo once in the terminal, it wont be needed again in the same terminal window. for a short period I guess
[13:17] <core[BDC]> i mean it wouldnt ask for password even after reboot
[13:17] <core[BDC]> it have always sudo privileges
[13:18] <xyz111> EriC^^ : again, nothing
[13:19] <core[BDC]> actually its convenient, but i fear it can cause some serious security risk?
[13:19] <xyz111> now, I just did sudo grep -R --no-messages "crontab" /
[13:19] <xyz111> to see if any script was setting up the cron itself
[13:20] <xyz111> but nothing there either...
[13:20] <xyz111> could it be a cached cron job or something? So it's in memory but not in any files?
[13:21] <EriC^^> xyz111: hmm i dont think that exists,i doubt though
[13:21] <glitsj16> core[BDC]: Have you inspected your sudoers yet? Do you login as root?
[13:23] <DarekDeo> Steves_: did --purge --reinstall software-center worked? If not you could try installing older version of software center: sudo apt-get install software-center
[13:23] <core[BDC]> glitsj16: i have no idea how to inspect? and no i dont login as root
[13:23] <Steves_> tried this sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get --purge --reinstall install software-center still no joy software centre still not opening
[13:23] <DarekDeo> Steves_: ops it is actually what Peyam suggested ;)
[13:24] <DarekDeo> Steves_: are you using any custom theme, icon pack?
[13:24] <glitsj16> core[BDC]: usually you do that via 'sudo visudo'
[13:24] <Steves_> no just the default
[13:25] <Steves_> thats why im almost at the stage of binning this and doing a reinstall
[13:25] <glitsj16> core[BDC]: there's more info at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sudoers
[13:25] <core[BDC]> i didnt run this command, i think it stops to ask for password after recent updates
[13:27] <Peyam> Steves_, just save time and do an reinstall
[13:27] <Peyam> Steves_, do what is simplest for you
[13:27] <Steves_> i have already tried most of the commands you have given
[13:27] <core[BDC]> glitsj16: i am new to linux, i fear if i play with these commands i will break something :|
[13:28] <Steves_> yes but its good to try and fix the faults its how you learn
[13:28] <BluesKaj> Steves_,  I was away for a bit, but I asked earlier if, dbus-launch application, works in the console
[13:29] <DarekDeo> Steves_: you can try one more thing: killall gnome-software
[13:29] <glitsj16> core[BDC]: can't rule that out, although it is very unlikely that an update would mess with /etc/sudoers.. can you pastebin /etc/sudoers so the channel can check it? No worries, better safe than sorry
[13:29] <DarekDeo> Steves_: then rm -r ~/.local/share/gnome-software
[13:31] <BluesKaj> DarekDeo,  that's not a fix
[13:32] <Steves_> dbus-launch software-center gives the following output
[13:33] <Steves_> Unable to create /home/steven/.dbus/session-bus /usr/bin/software-center:25: PyGIWarning: Gtk was imported without specifying a version first. Use gi.require_version('Gtk', '3.0') before import to ensure that the right version gets loaded.   from gi.repository import Gtk, GObject /usr/share/software-center/softwarecenter/ui/gtk3/views/purchaseview.py:29: PyGIWarning: WebKit2 was imported without specifying a version first. Use gi.requi
[13:34] <BluesKaj> Steves_,  just a regular app like file manager
[13:34] <BluesKaj> or nautilus
[13:35] <core[BDC]> glitsj16: there is a folder named sudoers.d in etc folder, it contains only README file
[13:36] <Steves_> dbus-launch nautilus Unable to create /home/steven/.dbus/session-bus  (nautilus:21662): Gtk-WARNING **: Failed to register client: GDBus.Error:org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.ServiceUnknown: The name org.gnome.SessionManager was not provided by any .service files  ** (nautilus:21662): CRITICAL **: Another desktop manager in use; desktop window won't be created Nautilus-Share-Message: Called "net usershare info" but it failed: Failed to exec
[13:38] <glitsj16> core[BDC]: yes, that's normal.. you can override defaults to /etc/sudoers in that dir.. lets check permissions on that file, run 'stat /etc/sudoers | grep -m 1 Access' and tell us what that returns
[13:39] <Steves_> so does that mean dbus is not working or that i need to be root to run the command
[13:40] <core[BDC]> glitsj16: Access: (0440/-r--r-----)  Uid: (    0/    root)   Gid: (    0/    root)
[13:41] <glitsj16> core[BDC]: okay, that's how it should be.. are you familiar with a pastebin? we need to check the content of /etc/sudoers
[13:41] <core[BDC]> yes i am familiar with pastepin
[13:43] <core[BDC]> https://pastebin.com/UdsZBG8w
[13:43] <core[BDC]> glitsj16:
[13:43] <glitsj16> core[BDC]: great, having a look
[13:46] <glitsj16> core[BDC]: lines 31 & 32 --> (1) they are the same, no need for that, but (2) that's the reason for your issue, you need to edit those out via 'sudo visudo'
[13:48] <glitsj16> core[BDC]: basically every user has nopasswd when you have a line like that in there, just make sure you remove both lines via 'sudo visudo', which is a safety precaution
[13:50] <core[BDC]> I need to delete last 2 lines? i.e. ALL ALL=(ALL) NOPASSWD:ALL
[13:50] <core[BDC]> ALL ALL=(ALL) NOPASSWD:ALL
[13:50] <glitsj16> core[BDC]: correct
[13:51] <jaydemir> hey so for some reason my Ubuntu install won't recognize my GPU anymore
[13:51] <jaydemir> despite there being no internal graphics in my CPU
[13:51] <jaydemir> if I run inxi-G all I see are fbdev, vesa and nouveau drivers
[13:51] <jaydemir> I have an Nvidia GTX 1050 in here
[13:52] <core[BDC]> glitsj16: how do i save it? ctrl+O?
[13:52] <glitsj16> core[BDC]: ctrl+x, confirm with enter
[13:52] <jaydemir> it's calling my card the "NVIDIA Device 1c81"
[13:52] <jaydemir> instead of GTX 1050
[13:52] <jaydemir> any idea how to fix?
[13:53] <core[BDC]> glitsj16: thanks a lot , fixed now :)
[13:54] <glitsj16> core[BDC]: you're welcome, glad to hear things are back to normal for you :)
[13:55] <BluesKaj> jaydemir,  nouveau is the default driver for nvidia cards on a new install, you have to find the correct driver for your card by running sudo ubuntu-drivers list in the console
[13:55] <jaydemir> no no no
[13:56] <jaydemir> thats not what I'm saying at all
[13:56] <jaydemir> I'm saying the OS USED to recognize my GTX 1050 AS a GTX 1050
[13:56] <jaydemir> and it's no longer doing that now that I've moved the drive into a new machine
[13:57] <BluesKaj> yes, but that's not the name of the driver for your card, it's probly nvidia-384 or some such
[13:57] <jaydemir> dude
[13:57] <jaydemir> I have the driver installed
[13:57] <jaydemir> it isnt loading it
[13:57] <jaydemir> thats the problem
[13:57] <glitsj16> core[BDC]: in case you would want to change sudo password functionality, like prolong the timeout etc, never use ALL, but add exceptions for your user only instead.. plenty of examples on the internets that have rather bad advice for convenience's sake
[13:57] <jaydemir> but if I install inxi, I can identify the hardware
[13:57] <oerheks> jaydemir, so changing to a new machine, you expected it to boot normally??
[13:57] <BluesKaj> no you have nouveau listed as the driver
[13:57] <jaydemir> so if I run inxi -G it SHOULD say Nvidia GTX 1050
[13:58] <jaydemir> it always has booted normally
[13:58] <jaydemir> here is the exact output: Graphics:  Card: NVIDIA Device 1c81
[13:58] <jaydemir>            Display Server: X.Org 1.18.4 drivers: fbdev (unloaded: vesa) FAILED: nouveau
[13:59] <genii> Probably something different in the way the BIOS of the new box deals with it
[14:00] <jaydemir> >.>
[14:00] <jaydemir> I'll try changing the PCIE of the GPU. This shouldnt be happening
[14:00] <jaydemir> worst case I'll just have to make a new partition and reinstall the OS
[14:00] <jaydemir> I was just hoping there would be a way to fix this
[14:03]  * BluesKaj wonders if he set the video options in the uefi/bios to pci instead of default
[14:16] <pizzaBurger> Hello. Could any1 help me format/partition a micro SD card on xubuntu? I have the micro SD card in the phone, which is connected to my computer (USB debugging on), but I can't find the card through Gparted. I'm running Xubuntu 17.04.
[14:18] <oerheks> pizzaBurger, that is not going to work, AFAIK
[14:21] <pizzaBurger> oerheks, you mean using a phone as a medium to mount the card?
[14:21] <ducasse> pizzaBurger: you can't format it wiyhout plugging it into a reader connected to the pc, the phone is not going to work
[14:22] <jer> when ducasse says a reader connected to the pc, the phone doesn't qualify, since the phone's reader doesn't expose the sd card as a block level device to the pc
[14:22] <jer> just to be a bit more specific
[14:24] <pizzaBurger> I see. Thanks guys! I have an integrated sd card reader in my computer, but the system doesn't seem to pick it up. Any alternative to "device manager", or other ways to turn the card reader on?
[14:24] <oerheks> format the card in your phone en try again?
[14:24] <jer> research; find out what device is in your laptop (there are usually detailed specs online), including model number and revision if possible, and then hunt for which linux driver (if any) support it
[14:25] <jer> try and load that driver
[14:25] <jer> or do that =]
[14:25] <jer> granted you may still have to do some research if that doesn't work
[14:26] <FurretUber> Hi, I have installed the kernel 4.12.3 from the Ubuntu mainline (from the .deb packages at http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/). I noticed there are alert level messages at dmesg and kernel bugs: http://paste.ubuntu.com/25190876/
[14:26] <FurretUber> Looks like the system is working and I don't know what that kernel bug means
[14:30] <pizzaBurger> oerheks, jer, ducasse, thanks a lot!
[14:31] <jayjo> When I boot my machine it goes to GRUB in order to give me a choice on what installation to boot into. (currently there are 2 ubuntus). 2 thins... it appears the GRUB entries in /boot/grub/grub.cfg refer to the OTHER os, unless there was an error in installation somehow. Where can I read about grub to see what I need to change?
[14:31] <jayjo> how can I change the names and change the default boot?
[14:33] <jaydemir> if I partition my drive and install a new OS in that partition, is there an easy way I can just link my new Home folder to the home folder of the old partition?
[14:33] <mordof> running ubuntu server in ec2 (amazon aws). On the server there is a drive attached - /dev/xvdb - AND /dev/xvdc (with the exact same UUID, same size, i'm assuming they're the same drive). In the EC2 panel for that VM though, there's no such EBS drive attached. So I have no idea how this hard drive is available on my server.  is there any way from wi
[14:33] <mordof> thin the server to determine where/what the drive is? is it possible to configure network storage in this manner? I'm quite confused
[14:34] <ducasse> jayjo: set the default boot with grub-set-default, read the man page first
[14:40] <acetakwas> Why doesn't this cronjob run? https://paste.ofcode.org/pUS8v6EiBFFGdf8ZHfjBQ4
[14:40] <jer> acetakwas, add those commands to a script and run the script
[14:40] <jer> cron runs one thing
[14:42] <mordof> that one thing doesn't have to be a single command though
[14:42] <jayjo> ducasse: I selected a particular UEFI entry point.... why does grub still win the race ?
[14:43] <acetakwas> jer::  I have used that approach.
[14:43] <acetakwas> It's the same problem.
[14:43] <acetakwas> I used `$ crontab -e`
[14:43] <xentity1x> Hi I see in the ubuntu package repository there are two versions of nvidia drivers (e.g. nvidia-375 and nvidia-375-dev). Can someone explain the difference to me?
[14:44] <doux> tar Question: When doing a system restore with tar it doesn't seem to overwrite any directories? How can I make tar overwrite / and thus all my files? COMMAND: sudo tar -xvpzf backup.tar.gz -C /media/ubuntu-mate/driveID/ --numeric-owner
[14:44] <ducasse> jayjo: because you must have selected grub from the uefi, is my guess
[14:45] <doux> I'm doing this in Virtualbox for now...
[14:45] <mordof> xentity1x: the -dev package (from the looks of a search on the matter) is for including header files, and other files needed to do development with the nvidia drivers, or something related to it
[14:45] <mordof> xentity1x: it's not the driver itself
[14:45] <django_> anyone know a free 2d chess game
[14:45] <mordof> xentity1x: at least, not the one you would install to use
[14:45] <jayjo> ducasse: I'm willing to do extra research on this if you have a resource for me. I have two drives currently with 3 partitions each (the standard ubuntu install). I selected with UEFI one of two options for boot (which I believe was the equivalent of /dev/sda and /dev/sdb). The entries do have different names which is possibly because the installer wanted to call them both "Ubuntu". Can I change these
[14:46] <jayjo> names? Isn't this stuff stored on a flash drive on the hardware itself?
[14:46] <jayjo> one is called "Ubuntu" and the other is called "Ubuntu from /dev/sda2"). I can verify these names in the indivudal installations /boot/grub/grub.cfg
[14:46] <ducasse> jayjo: you can use efibootmgr to edit the uefi entries
[14:48] <jayjo> ducasse: I did, that's how I have the two entries. There were extras installed from a Clover "Hackintosh" installation a year or two ago. That was how I found the uefi had its own internal data storage because I have wiped these drives many times since then. I'm nervous to delete these last two entires. When I do an installation, is there any other trace of it other than the efibootmgr records?
[14:48] <ducasse> jayjo: shouldn't be
[14:49] <jayjo> on an installation the only WRITES made are two the actual disk in question (with the partitions you installed)... *AND* to the UEFI flash drive, but that's it?
[14:51] <ducasse> jayjo: the os and bootloader is written to disk, and the uefi firmware entries are stored in nand memory
[14:52] <jayjo> bpaste.net/show/3288ec62f2f9 shows my only two entries currently in efibootmgr. Is there a way to go to defaults or detect? Or can I make some manual adjustments?
[14:53] <ducasse> jayjo: adjustments of what?
[14:54] <pavlos> acetakwas: your script runs on the first minute of every hour. consider putting a script in /etc/cron.hourly/
[14:54] <jayjo> ducasse: I'd like to boot directly into a "primary" installation and boot into it only on special occasions
[14:54] <jayjo> boot into the other or secondary one on special occasion
[14:54] <jayjo> But I think over the years my grub config has gotten messy
[14:57] <ducasse> jayjo: if you give each installation it's own bootloader, you can make separate uefi entries for them and set the primary one to default. you could also handle it through grub.
[15:10]  * eelstrebor is wondering if it's still necessary to modify fstab or run fstrim or do other "optimizations" with ubuntu 14.04+ distros if installed on an ssd?
[15:11] <acetakwas> pavlos::  Thanks. My bad.
[15:12] <oerheks> eelstrebor, no, see /etc/cron.weekly/fstrim
[15:13] <oerheks> there is a cronjob running for fstrim, and no extra options needed in fstab
[15:13] <oerheks> you can always run manually: sudo fstrim -v /
[15:14] <eelstrebor> ok. i was wondering because i have windows 10 running on an ssd and the info i've found is that the win10 os auto manages stuff like that so i was wondering if ubuntu did the same
[15:14] <oerheks> jups, it does
[15:16]  * eelstrebor just put mint 17.3 on an ssd
[15:17] <eelstrebor> looks like mint runs weekly also
[15:17] <eelstrebor> eventually, when the TB ssd's get lower in price i'll be putting ubuntu on those
[15:18] <scottjl> put the OS on a small SSD and data on a spinning disk.
[15:20] <steves_> finally got the software centre going
[15:20] <eelstrebor> i would prefer to put everything on an ssd instead of having a hybrid drive or a separate ssd/hdd combo (like my asus rog has)
[15:21] <steves_> sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install --only-upgrade gnome-software
[15:21]  * eelstrebor is running ubuntu 16.04 on the asus rog -m os on the ssd drive and data on the hdd
[15:21] <eelstrebor> having everything on an ssd is soooo much faster though
[15:22] <steves_> sudo apt-get autoremove gnome-software && sudo apt-get install gnome-software
[15:22] <steves_> that fixed it
[15:25] <edulix> hi people, is there a package version syntax that allows to install a package from a specific repository without specifying the version numbering?
[15:25] <edulix> apt install package=fromrepofoo
[15:25] <edulix> something like that
[15:25] <scottjl> edulix: download the .deb and install it manually?
[15:25] <edulix> scottjl: no, I mean something that can be used in the "apt install " command
[15:26] <oerheks> pinning perhaps?
[15:26] <oerheks> !pinning
[15:27] <scottjl> but that doesn't pin it to a specific repo
[15:27] <edulix> oerheks: pinning is not the droid I am looking for, because you cannot use pinning with the command "apt install" afaik, you need other commands
[15:28] <scottjl> edulix: then the answer would be no.
[15:28] <EriC^^> edulix: i dont think apt can do that, it can install .deb's though fwiw
[15:28] <oerheks> edulix, with apt-cache policy <package> #you can determin the version number,  then you can run #sudo apt-get install package=version
[15:28] <edulix> you might think it's an absurd requirement but it's not. I'm trying to use travis-ci containers which only allow to install apt packages declaratively by name, but name includes name=version
[15:28] <oerheks> i would pinn
[15:29] <edulix> oerheks: I cannot pinn
[15:29] <scottjl> apt doesn't have a command line option to specify a particular repo over another.
[15:29] <edulix> travis-ci containers do not allow it afaik
[15:29] <EriC^^> edulix: why dont you add the repo using add-apt-repository?
[15:29] <EriC^^> edulix: you can't add or edit /etc/apt/sources.list or /etc/apt/sources.list.d/*.list ?
[15:29] <edulix> EriC^^: the repo is already added and add-apt-repository not allowed in travis-ci containers
[15:29] <edulix> no
[15:29] <xentity1x> So I'm trying to install nvidia drivers on an ubuntu docker container using apt-get. Half way through the installation it asks me to specify my keyboard type. I want to write my installation script so that it doesn't require any user input once the installation starts. Is there a way to specify this input when I run apt-get.
[15:30] <xentity1x> I
[15:30] <xentity1x> I've already tried including the yes flag: apt-get install nvidia-375 -y
[15:30] <scottjl> edulix: to answer your first question, no. there is no command line option for that.
[15:30] <EriC^^> edulix: that's pretty odd and seems limiting, no experience with containers myself though
[15:31] <Abequinn> hi i actually dont use ubuntu i use linux mint
[15:31] <Abequinn> uhhh
[15:32] <scottjl> Abequinn: you probably want #linuxmint then
[15:33] <edulix> scottjl: can I use wildcards to convert the "version" (for example 1:3.8-2ubuntu3~trusty5) into "*trusty*" ?
[15:33] <Abequinn> yeah im joining that
[15:33] <EriC^^> edulix: can you write a script with the container?
[15:34] <edulix> EriC^^: they don't allow sudo in that script so you cannot execute apt things
[15:34] <jayjo> ducasse: Ah . so when I installed I must have selected put the bootloaded in the wrong /dev/sda or /dev/sdb? So I should delete the entry in GRUB for the one I don't want, and then reinstall the other OS when its bootloader on its own drive? Then I can do all of the selection with UEFI?
[15:34] <scottjl> edulix: write your own script?
[15:35] <edulix> scottjl: what? I cannot execute script with sudo permissions as I said
[15:35] <EriC^^> edulix: apt-get seems to accept wildcards for the version here
[15:35] <EriC^^> edulix: but not as prefix's, just suffix
[15:35] <scottjl> edulix: ok. you said "that script". i thought you were referring to a specific one
[15:36] <EriC^^> edulix: you can always parse them using a script, and pass the end results to apt
[15:36] <edulix> ok, I'll have to specify full versions, but I suspect that when the packages are updated, those packages will be removed from the repository..
[15:37] <edulix> EriC^^: no I cannot because the apt cannot use the output of the scripting AFAIK, it's called by travis declaratively and with whitelist limitations on the allowed packages
[15:38] <EriC^^> edulix: there must be a better way to go about this
[15:39] <ioria> edulix, never used it, but you can explore the -t flag ( --target-release)  in man apt-get
[15:39] <ducasse> jayjo: a simple way to do it all via uefi with installations on separate drives is to make separate efi partitions for each install, one on each drive. then you'll get uefi variables for each.
[15:39] <edulix> EriC^^: or maybe not
[15:40] <edulix> ioria: but in the same apt command I need to install package from different repos
[15:41] <ioria> edulix, that should not  be a problem  with &&
[15:42] <edulix> ioria: what do you mean?
[15:42] <edulix> ioria: with command I mean command, no "bash line"
[15:43] <ioria> edulix,  && workss with apt syntax
[15:44] <edulix> ioria: in any case I don't think I can even apply any apt flag, let alone && or other things. I can only edit the list of packages
[15:45] <ioria> ok
[15:45] <EriC^^> edulix: then you need to add the repo and update apt's cache
[15:46] <edulix> well I got the answer I needed, thanks all for the help
[15:47] <jayjo> ducasse: I believe that's what I attempted but I may have selected the wrong "Device for Bootloader Installation" when installing an ubuntu copy. Is there a way I can check this? I thought I did have separate partitions when there are 3 partitions on each drive
[15:47] <EriC^^> jayjo: type "(sudo parted -ls && sudo efibootmgr -v) | nc termbin.com 9999" and paste the link it gives you here
[15:48] <ducasse> jayjo: you should not select for example /dev/sda for bootloader installation, but /dev/sda1 - whatever the efi partition is. not the whole device.
[15:48] <ducasse> jayjo: that's a common problem.
[15:50] <EriC^^> /dev/sda works for me for the "bootloader location" at the bottom, the efi partition has to be selected as "efi partition" though
[15:51] <ducasse> EriC^^: which installer is this?
[15:51] <EriC^^> ducasse: ubuntu 14.04 and 16.04
[15:51] <ducasse> desktop or server?
[15:51] <EriC^^> desktop
[15:51] <jayjo> termbin.com/fzs9
[15:52] <ducasse> EriC^^: right. perhaps that's different? i almost always use server..
[15:53] <EriC^^> jayjo: you have 2 linux installs, which one's grub do you want to load on bootup?
[15:53] <EriC^^> ducasse: maybe
[15:54] <jayjo> I would like to default to /dev/sda
[15:54] <EriC^^> jayjo: type "sudo efibootmgr -o 0000,0085"
[15:56] <EriC^^> jayjo: type "sudo blkid /dev/sda1" and see if the partuuid starts with "ef70"
[15:57] <jayjo> EriC^^: I changed the boot order and it booted to the same machine. in my eufi bios my boot option priorities are in order to be sure
[15:58] <EriC^^> jayjo: the current machine is the 500gb one?
[15:58] <jayjo> when I boot and go to grub, I have 4 options. Ubuntu, Ubuntu w adv options, Ubuntu on /dev/sda2/ Ubuntu w adv options on /dev/sda2
[15:58] <jayjo> and Ubuntu on /dev/sda2 is the one I'd like to default to
[15:58] <jayjo> The dev/sda2 which I would like to deault to is the 180GB drive
[16:00] <EriC^^> jayjo: ok, try "sudo efibootmgr -v" again, is it still 0000 at the start?
[16:00] <jayjo> now that I'm on the machine of /dev/sda (180G drive, the default one) I can look in /boot/grub/grub.cfg and only see the "entry" that corresponds to the other machine. is that supposed to happen?
[16:00] <EriC^^> (after BootOrder)
[16:01] <jayjo> yes the order is correct now
[16:01] <adroit_machine> hi, I need to connect with my phone to my laptop via bluetooth, but it says bluetooth adapter not  found
[16:01] <jayjo> 0000,0085
[16:01] <jayjo> and those correspond to the correct Boot entries
[16:01] <EriC^^> jayjo: try from the /dev/sda one "sudo update-grub"
[16:01] <EriC^^> jayjo: no, it's not supposed to happen
[16:02] <EriC^^> jayjo: maybe /etc/grub.d/*linux is not executable
[16:02] <jayjo> something just changed after update-grub. The default wait time now is 30s instead of 10s
[16:02] <jayjo> so its a temporry step backwards
[16:02] <jayjo> still defaults into the incorrect installation, as well.
[16:03] <EriC^^> jayjo: type "(cat /etc/default/grub /boot/grub/grub.cfg && ls -l /etc/grub.d) | nc termbin.com 9999"
[16:05] <InvisibleRasta> hello guys, i jsut isntaller rtorrent and rutorrent. but when i go to my servers page it says that The requested URL /rutorrent was not found on this server.
[16:05] <InvisibleRasta> i am using ubuntu
[16:05] <Anonaly> Hi, I am running Xubuntu 16.04, I recently used the command line to upgrade it from 14.04,  how do I get the whisker menu /xfce to upgrade as well (my menu is still the old style)?
[16:05] <jayjo> EriC^^: termbin.com/veyb
[16:05] <Anonaly> is there a directory in my home folder that I have to delete to force it to update ?
[16:05] <EriC^^> Anonaly: did you try "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" ?
[16:06] <jayjo> you can see there the only entry is 'Ubuntu'. That entry will boot into the drive on /dev/sdc
[16:06] <Anonaly> EriC^^, yes
[16:06] <jayjo> but I also now see that DEFAULT is 0 which I think is indexed based. I've read something like that but if indexing it based on the order of grub entries is the solution... yuck
[16:07] <jayjo> I've read something somewhere that I could change that to '3' for example, but that would break if anything changed
[16:07] <Anonaly> I did this the last time, I remember there was a settings folder in my home folder    like  ~/.xfce or something that I had to remove  when I did this last time
[16:07] <Anonaly> but its not ~/.xfce its something else
[16:07] <Anonaly> ~/.config/xfce ?
[16:09] <EriC^^> jayjo: it's set to boot the /dev/sdc2 one, which i think is the current install
[16:10] <EriC^^> jayjo: type "sudo blkid /dev/sda2"
[16:10] <EriC^^> jayjo: actually, type "(df -h && lsblk -f) | nc termbin.com 9999"
[16:12] <jayjo> EriC^^: termbin.com/yb3s
[16:13] <EriC^^> jayjo: yup, the ubuntu entry boots the uuid=205.... which is sda2
[16:13] <Cobrax> god damn
[16:13] <Cobrax> ubuntu 17.04 gnome is unstable as fuck
[16:13] <EriC^^> jayjo: the timeout is 30 because of recordfail
[16:13] <EriC^^> jayjo: type sudo nano /etc/default/grub and add the line GRUB_RECORDFAIL_TIMEOUT=$GRUB_TIMEOUT
[16:13] <EriC^^> then sudo update-grub
[16:14] <jayjo> EriC^^: I'll try it again, but if I wait for the default it boots to the incorrect installation. I am in the correct installation now though
[16:14] <jayjo> if my logged in state has any impact
[16:14] <InvisibleRasta> i used this guide to isntall rutorrent and rtorrent but i cant acces the rutorrent interface https://www.techandme.se/install-rutorrent-plex-on-a-headless-ubuntu-server-16-04-part-1/
[16:14] <EriC^^> jayjo: when you get grub, make sure it's the correct one getting booted, check "echo $root" and "echo $prefix"
[16:15] <ducasse> Cobrax: watch the language, please
[16:16] <jayjo> echo $root -> hd2,gpt2 >>> echo $prefix -> (hd2,gpt2)/boot/grub
[16:16] <EriC^^> ok, try "ls (hd2,gpt2)"
[16:16] <EriC^^> which one is that?
[16:17] <EriC^^> jayjo: the installs are which ubuntu versions?
[16:17] <jayjo> UUID 63078d40 ... total size 471124992 KB
[16:18] <jayjo> they are both ubuntu 16.04 LTS. I believe that is the wrong drive
[16:18] <EriC^^> jayjo: ok, so that's indeed the /dev/sdc2 's partition
[16:18] <EriC^^> jayjo: ok, try for me something quickly
[16:19] <EriC^^> jayjo: "cat (hd0,gpt1)/efi/ubuntu/grub.cfg"
[16:19] <EriC^^> does it say 205 as the uuid or 630..?
[16:20] <jayjo> search.fs_uuid 63078d40... root hd2,gpt2; set prefix=($root) '/boot/grub'; configfile $prefix/grub.cfg;
[16:20] <EriC^^> jayjo: ok that's the problem
[16:21] <EriC^^> the efi of /dev/sda1 is setting the /dev/sdc2 as root and prefix
[16:21] <EriC^^> (how that came about is pretty mysterious)
[16:22] <EriC^^> jayjo: while installing the second ubuntu did you choose /dev/sda by mistake? and then just grub-install 'd from the 1st ubuntu?
[16:23] <jayjo> if anything I may have not configured the bootloader portion of this correctly : https://snag.gy/93Ke4d.jpg
[16:23] <jayjo> I manually set my partitions, but that's on the next screen and I don't remember if there's a chance to come back to this in order to select where the bootloader is installed
[16:24] <jayjo> but doesn't the partitions of each drive show that there is a bootloader installed on each drive?
[16:24] <EriC^^> jayjo: ok, try booting into the ubuntu of /dev/sda
[16:24] <EriC^^> and type "sudo grub-install"
[16:24] <EriC^^> then cat /boot/efi/efi/ubuntu/grub.cfg and see if the uuid starts with 205 now
[16:27] <jayjo> yes it does now
[16:27] <jayjo> I didn't check before grub-install
[16:30] <EriC^^> jayjo: ok, try sudo update-grub again, then try rebooting
[16:32] <jayjo> Yes, now it boots into the correct one by default. But it is back to 10s delay
[16:33] <jayjo> in /etc/defaults/grub the timeout is set to 0
[16:33] <jayjo> It still boots to the grub menu actually before going to the correct login - can I go directly to this login and interrupt the process if I want to login to the other OS?
[16:35] <EriC^^> jayjo: yeah, did you add the GRUB_RECORDFAIL_TIMEOUT=$GRUB_TIMEOUT to /etc/default/grub?
[16:35] <EriC^^> that should fix it i think
[16:37] <jayjo> still going to grub screen with that entry and update-grub
[16:38] <EriC^^> jayjo: type "cat /etc/default/grub /boot/grub/grub.cfg | nc termbin.com 9999"
[16:38] <jayjo> what record is failing? is there a log somewhere?
[16:38] <EriC^^> jayjo: it's when grub thinks the last time you booted it didn't work correctly, so it's a fallback timeout
[16:39] <jayjo> termbin.com/lww2
[16:41] <EriC^^> jayjo: try sudo nano /etc/default/grub
[16:41] <EriC^^> and set GRUB_TIMEOUT to anything other than 0
[16:42] <isomorphismes> upgrading from 12.04 LTS to 16 LTS, I now have a new terminal which doesn’t look like my old ones
[16:42] <isomorphismes> where can I find the old profile config files?
[16:43] <isomorphismes> ↑ the issue may also be that the Ctrl+Alt+T terminal default was reset to something new (but I don’t know what that would be either)
[16:43] <EriC^^> isomorphismes: somewhere in ~/.config or ~/.terminal-name
[16:43] <isomorphismes> as it happens, I still have old terminals that look normal running
[16:43] <isomorphismes> EriC^^: thanks
[16:44] <EriC^^> isomorphismes: post a screenshot maybe if you need help later
[16:44] <jayjo> EriC^^: I changed it to 1 and it still takes a 10s countdown
[16:45] <EriC^^> jayjo: odd
[16:47] <sim642> On xubuntu 16.04 I have issues with some tray icons: https://imgur.com/a/ykY56. On both machines some icons are zoomed and cropped instead of their normal size. This didn't happen before 16.04. Any ideas?
[16:49] <isomorphismes> EriC^^: http://ge.tt/5dnrPyl2
[16:51] <Era> Uh
[16:51] <Era> hello
[16:51] <Era> My Front Audio Jack does not work
[16:52] <steves_> do the back ones work
[16:52] <Era> Yes, they do
[16:52] <jayjo> It is odd. I won't really get how these two systems interact with each other. are they just both writing to the uefi memory?
[16:52] <EriC^^> isomorphismes: looks like a complete different terminal program
[16:52] <jayjo> ^don't really get / not won't
[16:53] <steves_> could be motherboard or speaker configurationproblem
[16:53] <Cobrax> ducasse, why?
[16:53] <Era> Doing `alsa force-reload` fixes it temporarily, but then it goes dead again after 2 minutes
[16:53] <ducasse> Cobrax: because the guidelines say so
[16:53] <Cobrax> freenodes guidelines apply to all channels
[16:53] <steves_> thats strange
[16:53] <Cobrax> ?
[16:54] <EriC^^> isomorphismes: try getting the name of the terminal somehow, try help > about
[16:54] <ducasse> !guidelines | Cobrax
[16:54] <Cobrax> burguoise perfoessionalism is sucking the soul out of life
[16:55] <EriC^^> jayjo: the uefi has a list of efi files like entries saved in the nvram and it loads the efi file shimx64.efi
[16:55] <steves_> not got enough linux experiance to help you era
[16:55] <EriC^^> cause it's first in the boot order, the rest is all up to grub
[16:55] <Era> Another thing I noticed is that when I force reload, in pavucontrol, It goes to built-in analog stero
[16:56] <Era> but after 2 mins, goes to something called IEC958
[16:56] <Era> and Output is no longer to Headphones, but to `Digital Stereo`
[16:57] <steves_> that maybe a codec issue then
[16:57] <steves_> what are you trying to play
[16:58] <Era> Music
[16:59] <steves_>  IEC958 is a digital ouput standard
[17:00] <Era> Hmm in Pavucontrol, in Configuration, it lists Analog Output as unplugged
[17:00] <Era> and if I change to it, sound comes through, but it auto shifts to digital output
[17:00] <steves_> spid/if interface output if that helps you
[17:00] <Era> Uh, no, it doesnt, Im barely even a noob
[17:02] <steves_> it is the digital output speaker setting that could be causing the issue
[17:03] <Era> How do I make it stay on Analog?
[17:03] <steves_> do you have this connected by optical or coax connection
[17:03] <Era> Uh... what?
[17:03] <steves_> that im not sure of in linux
[17:04] <Era> Maybe its the NVidia HDMI audio getting in the way
[17:06] <steves_> could be you should be able to set this in sound settings
[17:06] <Era> Yea, I disabled it
[17:06] <Era> Ill get back to you in a bit if it shuts itself off again
[17:09] <pavlos> jayjo: is the #GRUB_HIDDEN_TIMEOUT commented out?
[17:10] <Era> It seems like it works now, thanks steves_
[17:11] <steves_> your welcome try this if you still have trouble https://www.linuxmusicians.com/viewtopic.php?t=10684
[17:11] <Era> I will
[17:12] <Era> Damn, it broke again. This time it lasted for 5 mins so I thought it was fixed...
[17:12] <jayjo> pavlos: no it's not
[17:12] <jayjo> what does that command do?
[17:14] <pavlos> jayjo: it is in /etc/default/grub, you can comment it out, your timeout is 5 secs, reboot and see if grub countdowns 5 instead of 10
[17:18] <coolstar-ipad> hi, i just got a new laptop (Lenovo Yoga 720), but when i select Ubuntuin GRUB it doesnt boot at all
[17:20] <gabrielc> coolstar-ipad: do you read any errors?
[17:21] <coolstar-ipad> No, it just has a black screen and the USB ports all switch off
[17:21] <coolstar-ipad> And the fan seems to run at full speed
[17:21] <isomorphismes> EriC^^: I think they might both be gnome-terminal …
[17:22] <gabrielc> coolstar-ipad:  check if the computer has problems with any hardware component.
[17:24] <MikeSee> How would one go about changing the default login screen text from "Ubuntu 16.04.2 LTS <hostname> tty1\n\n<hostname> login:" if I wanted to add more information to be visible prior to login
[17:25] <coolstar-ipad> gabrielc: how would I check that?
[17:26] <coolstar-ipad> It seems to be working fine in Windows, just is unable to boot Linux
[17:28] <foomachine> is there any way to disable client side decorations globally? a patched gtk somehere maybe
[17:29] <gabrielc> coolstar-ipad: try to boot ubuntu from usb stick
[17:29] <coolstar-ipad> gabrielc: that's where I'm getting the issue
[17:29] <coolstar-ipad> It's unable to boot kubuntu 17.04's installer from the USB at all
[17:29] <gabrielc> coolstar-ipad: and with 16.04?
[17:30] <coolstar-ipad> Haven't tried 16.04 yet, but I noticed the same issue with both Linux Mint 18.2 and Kubuntu 17.04
[17:31] <coolstar-ipad> Also something else I noticed, in the UEFI boot menu, the Ubuntu USB shows up as some strange "Linpus Lite" option
[17:33] <isomorphismes> solved, probably : https://askubuntu.com/questions/774394/wheres-the-gnome-terminal-config-file-located https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/253942/where-are-gnome-terminal-profiles-stored-on-a-linux-distribution
[17:38] <coolstar-ipad> hmm, something else strange I noticed... If I removed the EFI folder from the USB and placed rEFInd on it, it shows up as "EFI USB Device" now instead of Linpus Linux
[17:42] <coolstar-ipad> Hmm loading GRUB from rEFInd doesn't seem to help either
[17:45] <e64> anyone gotten mac-like trackpad gestures successfully setup in Ubuntu?
[17:45] <e64> with TouchEgg, LibInput, or anything
[17:45] <sla3k> Hi, quick question: when I try to create a guest Ubuntu (on a Ubuntu HOST) using the command line parameters mentioned here: https://pastebin.com/W81zv8NE , I am dropped to "Escape Character is: ^]"
[17:45] <sla3k> I am trying to do this on a remote machine, logged in using SSH
[17:46] <sla3k> What is the right way to install a guest OS using "virt-install' remotely
[17:52] <DWSR> Hey all, is there a way for me to read a file a second CD drive during boot?
[17:52] <DWSR> I'm trying to give the installer the preseed file by inserting a second CD into the machine that contains the preseed file.
[17:56] <untoreh> can nautilus connected paths like ftp be accessed from cli ?
[17:58] <untoreh> ah /run somethingsomething
[18:00] <eelstrebor> is it necessary to modify fstab to reduce the number of read/writes on an ssd drive?
[18:04] <faraco> 16.04 is the last 32 bit arch support. What and which pc you guys recommend for 32 bit pc refugee?
[18:04] <faraco> for ubuntu*
[18:04] <faraco> omg..sorry. Let me rephrase that again.
[18:05] <faraco> 16.04 is the last Ubuntu LTS version that is going to be supported by Canonical. For 32 bit pc users, what linux distro you guys recommend to seek refugee?
[18:06] <faraco> I just don't want to let this pc became useless. I had a lot of good memories with it.
[18:06] <DWSR> faraco: I recommend that you go to a 64 bit PC
[18:06] <DWSR> What PC are you using that doesn't support 64 bit?
[18:07] <DWSR> Also, 16.04 LTS support is for at least another few years, so your computer will probably die by the time support runs out.
[18:07] <faraco> this pc is probably in existen for around 15 years
[18:07] <faraco> and it is i686
[18:07] <ioria> faraco, maybe lubuntu will continue to ship it...
[18:07] <faraco> until then which I don't know, in case it survives.
[18:08] <faraco> ioria: I think lubuntu use the same core as Ubuntu?
[18:08] <faraco> and not even mentioning the repo..
[18:08] <ioria> faraco, yeah, i said 'maybe' :þ
[18:09] <faraco> my bad then. :(
[18:10] <faraco> I'm doing just fine in command line, just you know, what else is possible in my situation and let's say my pc survives after 5 years since 16.04
[18:10] <ioria> faraco, what specs ?
[18:11] <faraco> i386, 1GB ram, 1.7 Ghz processor, 1 core.
[18:11] <DWSR> Dat Pentium 4.
[18:11] <ioria> faraco,   athlon xp amd ?
[18:11] <alkisg> Yeah that usually can't even play fullscreen youtube after 10.04, it needs 2.4 Ghz...
[18:12] <faraco> correct, and it is lagging when watching non fullscreen.
[18:12] <ioria> faraco,   tthat socket is terrible
[18:12] <faraco> I'm not planning to graphics extensive job in this pc
[18:12] <faraco> what socket?
[18:13] <ioria> faraco,   sy, what your cpu exactly ?
[18:13] <faraco> intel celeron 530
[18:14] <ShNaYkHs> I have ubuntu which is installed on Windows (using Wubiuefi - a windows installer for ubuntu), so the filesystem is NTFS. If I boot on ubuntu, is it possible to create a repository only which is ext4 ?
[18:14] <faraco> do you partition instead of repository ?
[18:14] <faraco> mean*
[18:15] <faraco> ioria: I'm looking for possible distro that gonna support this pc, for like maybe more years to come after 16.04.
[18:16] <ioria> faraco,  that cpu  got pae ? grep pae /proc/cpuinfo
[18:16] <faraco> ShNaykHs: if you want to create a separate partition, yes. Just run a liveusb and do your partitioning, swapping etc.
[18:16] <faraco> yes, I got pae
[18:17] <ioria> faraco,  and what are running atm ?
[18:17] <faraco> grep pae /proc/cpuinfo
[18:17] <jayjo> pavlos: do I also need to commeout out GRUB_HIDDEN_TIMEOUT_QUIET ?
[18:17] <faraco> oops
[18:17] <faraco> xubuntu
[18:17] <pavlos> jayjo: no, just the one I wrote
[18:18] <ioria> faraco,  16.04 ?
[18:18] <faraco> urm yeah
[18:18] <jayjo> pavlos: it's still 10 s
[18:18] <faraco> anything else?
[18:19] <pavlos> jayjo: after modifying grub, you type sudo update-grub, right?
[18:19] <jayjo> pavlos: actually no. Now it takes 1s to wait. so now I can change that to 0?
[18:20] <ShNaYkHs> faraco no I mean without creating a new partition. Just a repository with ext4. is that possible ?
[18:20] <faraco> I'm not sure what do you mean 'repository' in this context, pardon me.
[18:20] <pavlos> jayjo: well, every time you mod /etc/default/grub, you need to run sudo update-grub to update its files
[18:21] <faraco> ioria: so any suggestion?
[18:21] <ioria> faraco,  looks like lubuntu 18.04 will support i386, so you'll be ok
[18:21] <ShNaYkHs> faraco it means without partitioning, simply.
[18:21] <jayjo> pavlos: changing it to 0 reverted it back to a 10s wait
[18:21] <jayjo> is there any way to just go directly to the OS?
[18:21] <faraco> ioria: oh really,, phewwwwww
[18:21] <faraco> where do you get that ioria?
[18:22] <jayjo> pavlos: but a 1 did hae a 1s wait
[18:22] <ioria> faraco,  https://www.reddit.com/r/Lubuntu/comments/4qy25y/is_lubuntu_dropping_32bit_support/
[18:22] <faraco> thanks! I feel much safer now.
[18:22] <ioria> faraco,  "At the very minimum 18.04 will be the last i386 release, but we are hoping for longer."
[18:22] <pavlos> jayjo: some info ... https://askubuntu.com/questions/111085/how-do-i-hide-the-grub-menu-showing-up-at-the-beginning-of-boot
[18:23] <faraco> ioria: probably every 32 bit linux users need to move Lubuntu, and force them to support until 26.04 :P
[18:23] <ioria> faraco,  absolutly right
[18:24] <faraco> until then, I there is probably 60GB ram for personal home
[18:27] <faraco> ioria++
[18:34] <loppy2> anyone know of a program that can run memory more efficiently on ubuntu 16.04 .i have a gpu program that basically slow my pc to a crawl when running.
[18:35] <ShNaYkHs> I have installed Ubuntu on Windows (using Wubiuefi - a windows installer for Ubuntu). At startup, the windows boot manager shows up where you can choose to boot Windows or Ubuntu. After choosing Ubuntu, Grub shows up where you can choose Ubuntu (or other distributions if any). Does this mean that I have two boot loaders ? Or does it have something to do with UEFI ?
[18:36] <oerheks> wubi does not work with windows10/uefi
[18:36] <oerheks> !wubi
[18:36] <ShNaYkHs> oerheks I know that.
[18:37] <brunch> ShNaYkHs: did anything make you choose to use wubi instead of the default installation methods?
[18:37] <mistawright> hi guys how can i sort the first column of a csv using sort to show the duplicates and the amount of times they appear?
[18:37] <ShNaYkHs> brunch yes I have 4 primary partitions which are all importnt and cannot format any of them.
[18:38] <brunch> ShNaYkHs: so is the default installation process forcing you to format partitions?
[18:38] <ShNaYkHs> brunch maximum is 4 partitions. So I used Wibi uefi. But my question is not this ;)
[18:38] <alkisg> ShNaYkHs: UEFI means GPT, which means unlimited primary partitions
[18:38] <alkisg> Windows doesn't run in UEFI/MBR
[18:40] <ShNaYkHs> To make the question simple. If I build a new linux from scrach (on ubuntu as a host), do I need to enable the UEFI support in the kernel before compiling or not.
[18:40] <ioria> however, you can install gpt with dos-mbr
[18:41] <alkisg> ShNaYkHs: if things happen the way you're saying, that means that you're not using UEFI. Wubeuefi can't load itself from uefi windows boot manager (mentioned in its site), so if you're seeing first the windows boot manager and then grub, it means you're not using uefi.
[18:41] <alkisg> wubiuefi says its supports uefi, but only directly, without first going through the windows boot manager
[18:42] <alkisg> That second question was more complicated, why would you compile a kernel instead of just installing it with apt-get ?
[18:42] <ShNaYkHs> alkisg after installing wubiuefi, ubuntu started to appear on  windows boot manager, then grub appears. Isn't it supposed to be like that N
[18:42] <ShNaYkHs> ?*
[18:43] <alkisg> ShNaYkHs: do you know if you're using uefi? I believe you're not.
[18:43] <alkisg> If you're not using uefi, then yes, it's supposed to go like you report
[18:43] <alkisg> The mixed part is you reporting uefi, while I believe you're not using it
[18:43] <ShNaYkHs> alkisg I was talking about compiling the kernel for a linux which was build from scrach (LFS) not for Ubuntu.
[18:44] <alkisg> grub.efi can load both efi and non-efi kernels
[18:44] <alkisg> So that part doesn't matter
[18:44] <ShNaYkHs> ok
[18:44] <unicornjedi> howdee, Has anyone here installed ubuntu with LVM? I'm having some trouble with it... After the install I just get a blank screen with a blinking cursor. There's no error message so I don't have much to go off of
[18:47] <ioria> unicornjedi, 17.04 ?
[18:48] <ShNaYkHs> where can I find the .config of the kernel used by my ubuntu ?
[18:49] <alkisg> ShNaYkHs: in /boot/config*
[18:50] <ShNaYkHs> ok thanks
[18:53] <unicornjedi> ircnode0, aye
[18:54] <ioria> unicornjedi, and i suppose you cannot open a console ?
[18:54] <unicornjedi> ioria, aye :(
[18:54] <unicornjedi> ioria, all I can think is that grub was installed somewhere else
[18:55] <ioria> unicornjedi, so i think maybe one of these: or grub failed to install (so you need to boot livecd and reinstall) or hit by this bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/partman-auto/+bug/1655836
[18:56] <unicornjedi> ioria, ah... I installed ubuntu on /dev/sdb... so you think it's trying to install to /dev/sda?
[18:58] <ioria> unicornjedi, boot the live and paste   sudo parted -l  (yes, usually grub on /dev/sda)
[18:58] <unicornjedi> ioria, okay. one sec
[19:01] <loppy2> anyone know of any update repos for beignet that i can add or download a deb file?
[19:02] <unicornjedi> ioria, okay
[19:03] <unicornjedi> ioria, i see a list of my devices
[19:03] <ioria> we don't
[19:03] <scottjl> loppy2: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/beignet ?
[19:04] <unicornjedi> err, I'll get on IRC on the liveUSB
[19:04] <unicornjedi> and I'
[19:04] <unicornjedi> I'll pastebin the output there
[19:05] <jayjo_> one more thing has gone wrong, but I think it's the last thing to fix. my desktop just seems to be 'disabled' now. The desktop background was completely black and not interactable, but everything else is ok. I ran gsettings set org.gnome.settings-daemon.plugins.background active true; and it set it to show the image but it is still not 'interactable' w no icons
[19:05] <jayjo_> other things appear to work fine
[19:07] <unicornjedi> ioria: https://paste.ubuntu.com/25192523/
[19:08] <[n0mad]> jayjo_: did you remove nautilus?
[19:09] <jayjo_> [n0mad]: no, but when I run it from the cli i get this : https://bpaste.net/show/999eefda9418
[19:10] <[n0mad]> that's normal
[19:11] <jayjo_> I can't even click and drag now for the selection box
[19:11] <jayjo_> could gnome and unity be conflicting?
[19:12] <jayjo_> I am using gnome. I don't really care gnome vs unity. How do I completely uninstall one in order to default the other?
[19:13] <[n0mad]> not really sure. i only found 1 similar issue to yours in the search I did and the user had uninstalled nautilus so the same wouldn't apply
[19:13] <jayjo_> thinking that might be the issue
[19:14] <ioria> unicornjedi, dual boot with windows ?
[19:15] <unicornjedi> ioria: windows is on its on physical hard disk
[19:15] <mrig> Hello
[19:15] <ioria> oh, right
[19:15] <[n0mad]> jayjo_: this article describes removing gnome on 16.04 https://askubuntu.com/questions/767577/how-can-i-remove-gnome-desktop-environment-without-messing-unity-de-ubuntu-16
[19:16] <ioria> unicornjedi, so booting the pc, you get nothing  ? or what ?
[19:16] <mrig> Is chroot a good protection when running an irc client from a terminal?
[19:16] <unicornjedi> When I boot to /dev/sdb (the ubuntu installation) I just get a blank screen and blinking cursor :(
[19:16] <unicornjedi> I can boot to windows though. Windows doesn't have grub on it tho
[19:17] <ioria> unicornjedi, from bios you mean ?
[19:18] <unicornjedi> ye
[19:18] <unicornjedi> ioria: ye
[19:19] <jayjo_> I removed gnome and it worked.
[19:19] <jayjo_> I did like gnome better in my short experience, but it'snot worth the pain in the tush
[19:19] <ioria> unicornjedi, when you installed, do you remember where grub has been installed ?
[19:20] <[n0mad]> you could always install ubuntu gnome and not have to add it separate
[19:20] <unicornjedi> ioria: nope
[19:20] <alkisg> http://bootinfoscript.sourceforge.net/ should tell you where it got installed
[19:21] <alkisg> And you could chroot and run dpkg-reconfigure grub-pc to change it...
[19:21] <ioria> unicornjedi, on lvm you usually need a /boot partition (but there is none) ^ see alkisg suggestion
[19:21] <unicornjedi> alkisg: thank you
[19:27] <unicornjedi> ioria: https://paste.ubuntu.com/25192602/
[19:28] <unicornjedi> ioria: looks like grub is on /dev/sdd
[19:28] <ioria> yep
[19:28] <alkisg> Try booting from sdd from bios...
[19:28] <alkisg> Ah better yet
[19:28] <alkisg> Just chroot and change it\
[19:29] <alkisg> Remember to bind-mount proc, sys, dev, dev/pts
[19:29] <alkisg> And then chroot and run dpkg-reconfigure grub-pc
[19:29] <unicornjedi> alkisg: I am a linux power user and I have basic knowledge of the CLI so please bear with me...
[19:30] <alkisg> sudo -i; mount /dev/sdb /mnt; for d in proc sys dev dev/pts do mount --bind /$d /mnt/$d; done; chroot /mnt dpkg-reconfigure grub-pc
[19:30] <alkisg> *sdb1
[19:30] <alkisg> Or wherever else that lvm was
[19:31] <alkisg> dev/pts; do  => forgot a semicolon there
[19:31] <ioria> for i in /dev /dev/pts /proc /sys /run; do sudo mount -B $i /mnt$i; done
[19:33] <unicornjedi> sudo -i; mount /dev/sdb1 /mnt; for d in proc sys dev dev/pts; do sudo mount --bind /$d /mnt/$d; done; chroot /mnt dpkg-reconfigure grub-pc
[19:35] <unicornjedi> aye?
[19:35] <alkisg> Seems good
[19:36] <unicornjedi> alkisg: nice! okay now I am in the root shell or whatever its called.
[19:36] <alkisg> didn't you see the grub dialog to select the boot device?
[19:37] <unicornjedi> nope
[19:37] <alkisg> Ah you pasted all of it in one line
[19:37] <alkisg> Paste the second part, after the sudo, now
[19:38] <unicornjedi> do sudo mount --bind /$d /mnt/$d; done; chroot /mnt dpkg-reconfigure grub-pc      ?
[19:38] <alkisg> mount /dev/sdb1 /mnt; for d in proc sys dev dev/pts; do sudo mount --bind /$d /mnt/$d; done; chroot /mnt dpkg-reconfigure grub-pc
[19:39] <alkisg> I.e. so far you only managed to run `sudo -i`, the other part after the semicolon didn't run
[19:40] <unicornjedi> i see... I need to add a book about bash scripting to my kindle library lol
[19:41] <unicornjedi> alkisg: https://paste.ubuntu.com/25192663/
[19:42] <alkisg> Ah you need the lvm stuff first
[19:42] <alkisg> To mount it
[19:42] <alkisg> I don't know lvm, sorry, wait for someone else, like lv-mount or something
[19:42] <unicornjedi> No worries
[19:42] <unicornjedi> ioria: do you know what's going on here? https://paste.ubuntu.com/25192663/
[19:43] <ioria> unicornjedi, yeah, the issue is there .. it's not sdb1, it something like /dev/mapper/ubuntu--studio--vg-root, you need lvm2 installed on livecd
[19:43] <alkisg> Something like that, http://www.linuxwave.info/2007/11/mounting-lvm-disk-using-ubuntu-livecd.html
[19:43] <ioria> unicornjedi,  your partition it's mounted in /mnt
[19:43] <ioria> *not
[19:44] <JaVaSan> Hi there, a disabled service means it won't start automatically after reboot, but if I want to, I can start it myself. Is that right?
[19:46] <ioria> unicornjedi,  you're using lvm, so first exit from chroot (exit) then check if lvm2 is installed (dpkg -l lvm2), if not installed it, then mount /dev/mapper/ubuntu--studio--vg-root  /mnt , then bind mount again, and chroot
[19:46] <alkisg> He didn't manage to chroot
[19:46] <alkisg> Since he didn't manage to mount...
[19:47] <ioria> ok
[19:50] <alkisg> unicornjedi: since it's getting difficult, just reboot and tell bios to boot from sdd. You can then easily run dpkg-reconfigure from inside the running os
[19:50] <unicornjedi> I followed the guide alkisg and it appears I have two logical volumes active now
[19:50] <ioria> root and swap
[19:50] <unicornjedi> aye
[19:50] <ioria> you need root mounted
[19:51] <ioria> on /mnt
[19:53] <unicornjedi> ioria:  sudo mount /dev/ubuntu-studio-vg/root /mnt
[19:53] <ioria> unicornjedi,  mmm, just ls /mnt ... what you see ?
[19:54] <ioria> no, wrong
[19:54] <unicornjedi> eh
[19:54] <ioria> sudo  mount /dev/mapper/ubuntu--studio--vg-root  /mnt
[19:55] <ioria> and   ls /mnt
[19:56] <unicornjedi> I see gold right there. bin, cdrom, etc, boot, dev
[19:56] <unicornjedi> nice nice
[19:56] <ioria> ok
[19:56] <ioria> for i in /dev /dev/pts /proc /sys /run; do sudo mount -B $i /mnt$i; done
[19:57] <unicornjedi> ok
[19:58] <ioria> so, alkisg wanted to run dpkg-reconfigure grub-pc   ; let's sudo chroot /mnt   and dpkg-reconfigure grub-pc
[19:58] <alkisg> yeah this should present a dialog where you can select sdd for the boot code
[19:58] <alkisg> *sdb, sorry
[20:00] <doux> LVM on Virtualbox Question: I restarted by VM with the installer inserted into the virtual Optical Drive. I ran: sudo vgscan, and nothing came up. I want to access my installation file system. How do I do that?
[20:01] <alkisg> By installer you mean the live cd?
[20:01] <doux> alkisg, yes
[20:01] <alkisg> http://www.linuxwave.info/2007/11/mounting-lvm-disk-using-ubuntu-livecd.html
[20:02] <alkisg> Funny that was needed 2 times in a row :D
[20:02] <doux> alkisg, thanks
[20:02] <alkisg> np
[20:02] <unicornjedi> so my understanding of chroot is that it acts like you are the root of that device and it will be like you are running commands on there as if you were using the system on there?
[20:02] <alkisg> right
[20:03] <unicornjedi> that is funny though :P
[20:04] <unicornjedi> alkisg: okay I see the dialog
[20:04] <ioria> also  voldemort said that
[20:04] <alkisg> select sdb, press ok, then exit the chroot and reboot
[20:05] <alkisg> voldemort mounted lvm volumes? that's some magic he got there... :D
[20:05] <ioria> lol
[20:06] <unicornjedi> lesson learned... take out all hard drives except the one you want to install ubuntu on
[20:06] <unicornjedi> or learn the CLI :(
[20:06] <alkisg> or pay attention to the installer
[20:06] <alkisg> saying "where do you want me to install grub" ? :)
[20:07] <unicornjedi> It never asked me that. how rude :P
[20:07] <doux> alkisg, sudo pvscan gives: No matching physical volumes found... :(
[20:07] <unicornjedi> okay I'm going to reboot this bebe
[20:07] <doux> unicornjedi, Are you trying to mount LVM from live CD too?
[20:07] <alkisg> doux: sorry, i only know that much about lvm, it worked in unicornjedi's case
[20:08] <unicornjedi> doux: yes :D
[20:08] <doux> alkisg, ok, np.
[20:08] <doux> unicornjedi, I can't get it to find the physical volume. Any advice?
[20:08] <alkisg> doux: what's the output of sudo parted -l | nc termbin.com 9999 ?
[20:10] <sebsebseb> hi
[20:10] <doux> alkisg, Warning: Unable toopen /dev/sr0 read-write... /dev/sr0 has been opened read-only. http://termbin.com/04lw
[20:10] <unicornjedi> doux: I'm looking through my terminal to see what I did...
[20:10] <alkisg> That's a 404, it doesn't exist
[20:10] <alkisg> Did you mistype the url?
[20:11] <doux> alkisg,  http://termbin.com/o4lw
[20:11] <alkisg> I don't see any lvm partitions there
[20:13] <doux> alkisg, It asks me for a password when I log in to the Ubuntu VM. I don't understand...
[20:13] <unicornjedi> doux: I don't know too much about VM's I'm sorry. I'm trying to teach myself how to use KVM/QEMU
[20:13] <doux> unicornjedi, np
[20:13] <unicornjedi> doux: run fdisk -lu
[20:14] <doux> unicornjedi, I did.
[20:14] <alkisg> doux: if it's encrypted, it might need additional steps, dunno
[20:14] <alkisg> It doesn't show up as normal lvm so the normal steps don't apply
[20:14] <unicornjedi> ahh encryped :o
[20:14] <doux> alkisg, that's it. It's LUKS
[20:15] <unicornjedi> I'm going to reboot my compooper. THank you all :)
[20:15] <doux> alkisg, unicornjedi, I think I have to do something with LUKS first. Thanks for getting me to realize that. :)
[20:15] <alkisg> np
[20:40] <MikeSee> Is it possible to change the top line in this screenshot? http://i.imgur.com/qJ7EVB3.png
[20:43] <ni1s> MikeSee: isn't that juse the content of /etc/issue?
[20:43] <MikeSee> is it?  cool.  that means it should be simple to modify, right?
[20:43] <MikeSee> oh it is!  that's cool.  Thanks ni1s !
[20:44] <ni1s> MikeSee: np
[20:44] <genii> Yes, it's /etc/issue for local users, /etc/issue.net for ssh users
[20:45] <MikeSee> oh, even niftier, and a quick google says to use the mingetty sequences, it's the same for both I gather?
[20:50] <isomorphismes> I’m downloading and installing things via `dpkg -i` (unfortunately) because the automatic upgrade process left me with seemingly otherwise unresolvable dependency conflicts.
[20:50] <max3> fresh install of lubuntu 16 lts and i get hangs on shutdown or reboot, both from lightdm and command line
[20:50] <isomorphismes> At some point I seemed to need libsigc++2.0, which requires pkg-config to install, rather than dpkg
[20:51] <Bashing-om> MikeSee: There is 'hostnamectl' for systemd. See the man page : http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/xenial/man1/hostnamectl.1.html .
[20:51] <isomorphismes> How do I get my system to put things where they need to do for packages that are managed by pkg-config?
[20:53] <MikeSee> Bashing-om, that would only change the hostname, not the login screen information. :)
[20:55] <nacc> !info libsigc++-2.0.0v5 xenial | isomorphismes
[20:55] <nacc> !info libsigc++-2.0-0v5 xenial | isomorphismes
[20:55] <nacc> isomorphismes: --^ that package?
[20:55] <isomorphismes> nacc: yes, that one
[20:56] <nacc> isomorphismes: why would you build it yourself, then?
[20:56] <explodes> Not sure where to report this but systemctl has an obvious bug:
[20:56] <explodes> https://pastebin.com/VznTGbDU
[20:56] <isomorphismes> nacc: something else needed cwidget and cwidget needed libsigc++
[20:57] <explodes> "enabling" a service creates a symlink in the [sic] "mult-user.target.wants" directory
[20:57] <isomorphismes> nacc: certainly not because I want to...
[20:57] <isomorphismes> nacc: just experiencing an imperfect upgrade and looking to get back to normalcy..
[21:04] <glitsj16> explodes: why should that represent a bug in systemctl? If /etc/systemd/system/echo-server.service has a 'WantedBy=multi-user.target' in its Install section that's pretty normal behavior no?
[21:05] <MikeSee> glitsj16, I think they are pointing out the typo 'mult-user.target' in the output in the pastebin
[21:06] <glitsj16> MikeSee: didn't even notice that, guess I'm buggy too (no news to me actually)
[21:11] <glitsj16> explodes: sorry for the confusion, might be something to show the experts in #systemd
[21:15] <croberts> is 17.04 pretty stable, looking to go from 16.04 to it
[21:16] <croberts> having issues with my lenovo p50 that i just got with 16.04 so wanted to see if 17.04 helps
[21:16] <sebsebseb> croberts: a lap top ?
[21:16] <sebsebseb> what probelms ?
[21:17] <croberts> sebsebseb: yeah laptop, this one it seems gnome crashes alot and does not save which extensions i have turned on
[21:17] <sebsebseb> a new lap top?
[21:17] <croberts> also a lot of fights with the dock, but reddit shows its not just ubuntu having the issue
[21:17] <sebsebseb> what graphics card ?
[21:17] <croberts> yeah
[21:17] <croberts> let me get it
[21:17] <croberts> Gallium 0.4 on NV117
[21:17] <sebsebseb> the dock ? you mean the  oh the yeah in gnome or unity even
[21:17] <sebsebseb> down the side
[21:17] <sebsebseb> a new graphics card nvidia ?
[21:17] <croberts> i think so yeah
[21:17] <croberts> laptop just recently came out
[21:18] <sebsebseb> you could be leacking a propritary driver for that, if one even exists
[21:18] <sebsebseb> croberts: if the hardware is to new and certain things, can get into some issues here and there
[21:18] <croberts> ah ok
[21:18] <sebsebseb> croberts: for exampel Nividia is all propritary really as well
[21:18] <croberts> yeah even some guys at work who use Fedora are having issues
[21:18] <sebsebseb> yes  there's an open driver, but
[21:18] <sebsebseb> that's reverse enginnered
[21:19] <sebsebseb> they do the best they can to support nvidia card the open way though
[21:19] <sebsebseb> croberts: you could try 17.04, but it may not change much
[21:20] <croberts> worth a try, biggest pain for me is the gnome extensions not remaining on... looked and tried a few hacks on ubuntu forums but didnt help
[21:20] <croberts> cool thanks ill give it shot
[21:20] <sebsebseb> croberts: well that's the latest stable gnome in 17.04
[21:20] <sebsebseb> croberts: that's   a year or so old one in 16.04
[21:20] <sebsebseb> gnome improves every six months
[21:20] <sebsebseb> in stable versions
[21:20] <croberts> ah so might help with that piece at least
[21:21] <croberts> maybe
[21:21] <sebsebseb> croberts: yep maybe exactly
[21:21] <croberts> cool thanks for the help :)
[21:22] <sebsebseb> croberts: some distros have better gnome implementations than others too
[21:22] <sebsebseb> depends a bit though
[21:31] <explodes> glitsj16: ah dangit
[21:35] <Bashing-om> croberts: I too had issues with a new nvidia card . not supported in 14.04 - 16.04 picked it up . You might try a 17.10 daily build and see if that new card is supported .
[21:35] <glitsj16> explodes: yes?
[21:50] <isomorphismes> man .. knew i should have stuck with trusty .. i only hit the do-upgrade-release button again by mistake ....
[22:06] <LABcrab> Hi. I'm looking for help with ffmpeg2theora (.VOB to .OGV). What is the best setting? Should I simply use 640x480?
[22:28] <mustmodify> I have a production issue... sorry for my shortness.
[22:28] <mustmodify> Can I get the working directory from a pid?
[22:28] <Scoop7> sudo chmod -R -777 directory   <-- makes the dir unreadable, I am missing something? o.O
[22:30] <mustmodify> Why not just set it to 000? Though it seems like that would be...
[22:30] <mustmodify> unfortunate.
[22:30] <[n0mad]> mustmodify: like ps aux | grep "pid" ?
[22:30] <genii> Scoop7: Remove the dash in front of the 777
[22:31] <geirha> and change 777 to 775 at least
[22:31] <geirha> still a bad thing to put that mode on regular files
[22:31] <mustmodify> I want the working directory, not the pid.
[22:32] <geirha> mustmodify: lsof can tell you
[22:32] <[n0mad]> if you grep the pid dependingon the process it would have it's directory
[22:32] <[n0mad]> unless working directory means something else besides where it's running from
[22:34] <geirha> mustmodify: lsof -a -d cwd -p "$pid"
[22:50] <codepython777> I just loaded ubuntu 16.04 on Intel nuc7i7bnh - no wifi detected. Any suggestions on how to fix this?
[22:56] <oerheks> they seem to provide firmware https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/support/network-and-i-o/wireless-networking/000005511.html
[22:57] <oerheks> and something about kaby lake, not sure it is still valid https://communities.intel.com/thread/114411
[22:58] <codepython777> oerheks: thanks. I'm on 4.4.0-87-generic
[22:59] <codepython777> oerheks: looks like an AC 8265 chip
[22:59] <oerheks> find the chipset of your wireless, lscpi would show it
[22:59] <oerheks> ah oke
[23:00] <codepython777> oerheks: no driver for 8265 on kernel < 4.6?
[23:00] <oerheks> hmm that is why that community page suggests a higher number than 16.04, kernel 4.6+
[23:01] <oerheks> too new hardware, my friend
[23:01] <codepython777> oerheks: So I should not be on LTS for this machine?
[23:01] <nacc> 16.04.2 should have 4.8, right?
[23:01] <oerheks> try 17.04 in live mode?
[23:01] <oerheks> 16.10 is EOL, just ended
[23:01] <codepython777> nacc: it seems it defaults to 4.4
[23:02] <codepython777> perhaps there is a way to upgrade ?
[23:02] <oerheks> maybe fresh 16.04.2 gives 4.8 indeed,..
[23:02] <codepython777> HWE Kernel? how do i select it?
[23:02] <codepython777> or perhaps default to it?
[23:02] <oerheks> https://askubuntu.com/questions/885054/upgrade-16-04-2-lts-to-kernel-version-4-8
[23:02] <oerheks> sudo apt-get install --install-recommends xserver-xorg-hwe-16.04
[23:03] <nacc> codepython777: 'default'? did you fresh install?
[23:03] <nacc> codepython777: if you installed 16.04.2, it should be on 4.8 by default
[23:03] <codepython777> nacc: just fresh installed from a usb disk that i had from sometime ago - then upgraded
[23:03] <nacc> codepython777: ah, that's an old usb disk possibly?
[23:03] <codepython777> yes
[23:03] <nacc> codepython777: and upgrading won't opt-in
[23:03] <nacc> what oerheks said then
[23:03] <oerheks> oke, you could do a fresh install or tweak
[23:04] <oerheks> * from a recent 16.04.2 iso
[23:04] <nacc> fresh install with a fresh USB as well
[23:04] <nacc> :)
[23:04] <nacc> jinx oerheks :)
[23:04] <codepython777> Let me first create a fresh usb disk then
[23:05] <oerheks> not sure ubuntu provides firmware with that kernel upgrade too..
[23:06] <codepython777> oerheks: then i can try to install that particular intel driver?
[23:07] <oerheks> if you installed the HWE stuff, and rebooted, does the wifi come up?
[23:07] <oerheks> if not, install that firmware with wired networking
[23:08] <codepython777> Will try, thanks. :)
[23:15] <codepython777> oerheks: even the installer finds the wifi card ! :) Thanks.
[23:16] <oerheks> codepython777, that what i would expected of intel/kernel drivers
[23:17] <oerheks> have fun!
[23:17] <codepython777> oerheks: :) thanks.
[23:17] <codepython777> The speed is pretty cool. Boot time in seconds.
[23:17] <oerheks> silent
[23:18] <notaswengr_> got to get back to mac
[23:19] <notaswengr_> unless someone here knows how to route audio loopback and playback at the same time
[23:19] <notaswengr_> using pulse audio
[23:19] <notaswengr_> thanks
[23:20] <oerheks> jack should be able to
[23:20] <notaswengr_> ne1
[23:21] <oerheks> !info jackd
[23:21] <notaswengr_> do i need a physical audio jack to use it
[23:21] <notaswengr_> oerheks
[23:21] <notaswengr_> ?
[23:23] <apawl> A few years ago, I used to be able to have the equivalent of RDP for ubuntu->ubuntu
[23:23] <apawl> Does anything exist for os x -> ubuntu?
[23:24] <PipeItToDevNull> VNC
[23:24] <oerheks> notaswengr_, i have no idea how an audio jack is involved in this
[23:25] <genii> OSX is running X. Just forward it.
[23:25] <hehehe> hey folks
[23:25] <hehehe> I changed my hostname to  a text value :) when I run mongo shell it shows "me" : "textvalue:27017",
[23:26] <hehehe> how can I make it run as "me" : "localhost:27017", ?
[23:26] <hehehe> i think its something to do with hosts and hostname files setup
[23:27] <apawl> genii: when you say "just forward it," what do you mean? Forward it via what?
[23:27] <nacc> hehehe: you are probably better off asking in a mongodb support channel
[23:30] <sfdebug> does anyone know how to be if USB port are working?
[23:30] <hehehe> nacc: nah
[23:30] <hehehe> its not a good idea
[23:30] <hehehe> :D
[23:31] <sfdebug> my USB ports aren't recognizing mouse, phone, nothing...
[23:31] <sfdebug> is there some command on linux that i can list USB ports?
[23:31] <sfdebug> and test it?
[23:32] <hehehe> https://pastebin.com/Uwd7QytG
[23:32] <hehehe> does that makes sense?
[23:33] <hehehe> 127.0.0.1 resolves to localhost and hostname
[23:33] <hehehe> sfdebug: can u see usb at all?
[23:34] <hehehe> the usb ports
[23:34] <hehehe> not the devices
[23:34] <sfdebug> hehehe, no...
[23:34] <oerheks> lsusb -t && lsusb -v  would tell something
[23:34] <hehehe> yes
[23:34] <notaswengr_> ubuntu is l33t
[23:34] <hehehe> and dmesg | more :D
[23:34] <notaswengr_> im noob
[23:34] <notaswengr_> later
[23:35] <sfdebug> oerheks, hehehe, can i put in pastbin the result so you can see that?
[23:35] <hehehe> ye
[23:35] <oerheks> !paste
[23:35] <oerheks> sure
[23:37] <genii> apawl: Apologies on lag. Same as any other *nix, except in this case /private/etc/ssh/sshd_config instead of regular /etc/sshd_config is where you set ForwardX11=yes , and commands  sudo launchctl stop com.openssh.sshd; sudo launchctl start com.openssh.sshd
[23:37] <genii> Thats it
[23:37] <sfdebug> oerheks, hehehe, here is it: https://pastebin.com/mqYaM0Pu
[23:39] <oerheks> so it seems to be working¿
[23:39] <hehehe> yes
[23:39] <vlt> Hello. I’m using cheese to display the webcam input on screen in realtime. How can I either remove the upper and lower title and status bar in fullscreen mode or use another tool that does this but (unlike vlc) without added delay?
[23:39] <hehehe> 1 is working
[23:39] <hehehe>  Intel Corp. Integrated Rate Matching Hub
[23:39] <hehehe> one is not working
[23:40] <sfdebug> oerheks, hehehe when i plug a usb device on it, doesn't recognize...
[23:40] <hehehe> Bus 002 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub
[23:40] <hehehe> Couldn't open device, some information will be missing
[23:40] <hehehe> did you check syslog?
[23:40] <hehehe> for a errors
[23:40] <hehehe> cat /etc/var/syslog :)
[23:40] <hehehe> something like that
[23:41] <oerheks> what device did you attach exactly?
[23:41] <sfdebug> hehehe, let me see...
[23:41] <sfdebug> hehehe, /etc/var doesn't exist...
[23:41] <hehehe>  var/log/syslog
[23:41] <hehehe> :)
[23:41] <nacc> sfdebug: if you plug in a device, `dmesg` should output something
[23:41] <hehehe> sorry  :P
[23:42] <sfdebug> oerheks, a mouse and a phone...
[23:42] <hehehe> nacc:  yep
[23:42] <hehehe> :)
[23:45] <oerheks> hmm, check the driver utility in sources, is there a amd/intel microcode?
[23:46] <oerheks> sudo ubuntu-drivers list
[23:46] <oerheks> or go wild with directly sudo ubuntu-drivers autoinstall
[23:46] <sfdebug> oerheks, hehehe, nacc, here is it: https://pastebin.com/2PAZdHK0
[23:48] <nacc> sfdebug: it's easiest to either clear the buffer, or do something like `tail -f /var/log/syslog` in a terminal window and unplug and plug your device. Do you see any output?
[23:49] <sfdebug> nacc, let me see...
[23:49] <eelstrebor> why do you have to remove the encryption utilities in order to unencrypt the /home directory?
[23:50] <hehehe>   19.543302] rtl8192ce: Using firmware rtlwifi/rtl8192cfw.bin
[23:50] <hehehe> is this usb?
[23:50] <hehehe> dont seems  like it
[23:51] <hehehe> [    0.203278] usbcore: registered new device driver usb
[23:51] <hehehe> then what?
[23:51] <nacc> hehehe: it's a wireless device
[23:51] <hehehe> [    0.652019] usb usb1: New USB device found, idVendor=1d6b, idProduct=0002
[23:51] <sfdebug> nacc, nothing appears when tail -f is running and a usb device is plugged...
[23:51] <hehehe> some usb dev is found
[23:52] <nacc> sfdebug: that would indicate to me, that the port is dead
[23:52] <nacc> sfdebug: but is not necessarily conclusive
[23:52] <hehehe> fried up?
[23:52] <nacc> sfdebug: have you tried all the ports? is it a laptop? Is the laptop plugged in (I have seen some ports power drop in weird ways when not plugged in in laptops)
[23:53] <genii> 1d6b:0002 seems to be a root hub
[23:53] <sfdebug> nacc, it's a laptop... i tried all ports...
[23:53] <genii> ( according to the usb-ids list)
[23:54] <nacc> genii: yeah that makes sense from the output
[23:55] <sfdebug> wow, the mouse light is on when i plug in a determined usb port!
[23:55] <sfdebug> but doesn't move the mouse pointer...
[23:56] <nacc> sfdebug: ok, when you did that, what showed up in syslog?
[23:56] <nacc> sfdebug: or the end of `dmesg`
[23:56] <sfdebug> nacc, nothing...
[23:56] <genii> Maybe you have a fried controller
[23:57] <nacc> sfdebug: that's surprising, i would suspect some hardware issue
[23:57] <sfdebug> and if i do some bios reset?
[23:58] <sfdebug> i'll try that...
[23:58] <sfdebug> back soon...