[00:01] <sfdebug> didn't work...
[00:02] <sfdebug> i have windows installed in a disk partition here... let me try on that...
[00:02] <sfdebug> lets try...
[00:02] <sfdebug> last* try
[00:13] <sfdebug> didn't work on windows too...]
[00:13] <sfdebug> but now the mouse light is on in the others usb ports...
[00:13] <sfdebug> just the mouse pointer that don't move...
[00:17] <oerheks> sfdebug, odd failures ... look for a bios update perhaps?
[00:17] <sfdebug> oerheks, but it was working...
[00:21] <sfdebug> oerheks, nacc thanks... i think the usb port are dead...
[00:22] <sfdebug> thank you very much
[00:37] <pressure679> Wayland + weston on Xubuntu 16.04.2, wow, much satisfaction, screen tearing solved, much better colors in parole media player.
[00:37] <pressure679> - noticeable.
[00:38] <pressure679> And CPU temperature dropped by 1C degree! (no sarcasm)
[00:44] <Pinkamena_D> Hey, was here a few days ago but was never able to find a solution to this issue. After creating a GPT drive with a single btrfs partition, I get huge amount of drives at boot: https://pasteboard.co/
[00:44] <Pinkamena_D> I have tried removing the mounting from /etc/fstab and restarting but that did not help either
[00:45] <Pinkamena_D> some examplkes of the drive names are 'pids', 'systemd', 'connections', 'pstor'
[00:45] <Pinkamena_D> I tried manually unlocking all of them but they come back on restart
[00:51] <ProfessorKaos64> is dropbox still defacto go-to for hosted cloud storage that integrates well with the desktop? I've had trouble with grive and the like over the years.
[00:59] <PipeItToDevNull> I didnt even know that was still part of the scene
[00:59] <PipeItToDevNull> I personally use Nextcloud hosted off a VPS
[01:07] <ProfessorKaos64> I mean for hosted
[01:07] <ProfessorKaos64> I like spideroak a bit, just trying to check out other ones
[01:08] <PipeItToDevNull> What integration are you looking for
[01:09] <ddellav> ProfessorKaos64 dropbox is pretty good for hosted. I used spider oak for a bit but it took way too long to do uploads. It had to do a lot of client-side stuff that ate up cpu
[01:09] <ProfessorKaos64> I am willing to do nextcloud, but I do like hosted for ease of use
[01:09] <ddellav> whatever i do it needs to have an iOS client
[01:09] <ProfessorKaos64> spiderak is nice in how it does backups
[01:09] <ProfessorKaos64> you choose a path, not just have a "dropbox" folder
[01:09] <ddellav> for my system backups i use ARQ with google drive
[01:09] <ProfessorKaos64> drive now has abackup feature, but no on linux
[01:10] <ddellav> ARQ does the backups
[01:10] <ddellav> google drive is jut the storage medium
[01:10] <ddellav> and i believe ARQ works on all platforms
[01:10] <ddellav> i use it on OS X
[01:11] <ProfessorKaos64> nextcloud setup isn't to too harsh, I manage a hadoop cluster at work, so postgres and confs aren't foreign in the least
[01:11] <ProfessorKaos64> I like spideroak more of for hosted backups of /etc/ and /home
[01:11] <ProfessorKaos64> I wish dropbox allowd you to just choose folders
[01:12] <PipeItToDevNull> ln -s
[01:12] <ProfessorKaos64> I don't like messing with symlinks when doing backups like that
[01:13] <PipeItToDevNull> Ah, works fine for all my little shit, I only have 4GB of data I actually do anything with
[01:14] <kenrin> What should I look for to clean out my system?  I'm getting / is full errors and I've deleted all my downloads
[01:14] <PipeItToDevNull> kenrin, what is producing errors would be a good start
[01:15] <kenrin> Well ubuntu is giving me the root is full errors..
[01:16] <protocol_hive> join linux
[01:16] <PipeItToDevNull> And it says that where kenrin
[01:16] <kenrin> On a popup on the desktop
[01:16] <kenrin> blah blah root is full click here to empty trash
[01:17] <PipeItToDevNull> Did you install to one partition or is /home seperat
[01:17] <kenrin> One parition on a 120gig ssd.  I got another parition just for kvm images
[01:18] <PipeItToDevNull> Ok, so to see where the space is you can use Boab, it is like WinDirStat for Windows
[01:18] <PipeItToDevNull> Think it is boab, sec
[01:18] <PipeItToDevNull> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Baobab
[01:19] <kenrin> Cool.  That'll help a lot more than running du commands
[01:20] <kenrin> Ok so I have a 90.6 gig .cache folder
[01:20] <kenrin> Thanks !
[01:20] <PipeItToDevNull> I prefer du, but hey
[01:20] <PipeItToDevNull> Yep
[01:20] <pavlos> kenrin: can you run this, du -d1 / | sort -n ... this will give you sizes of the top dirs
[01:20] <PipeItToDevNull> du -d 1 -h | sort -h
[01:20] <PipeItToDevNull> That would be easier
[01:20] <kenrin> Why exactly is .cache/upstart over 90 gigs ?
[01:21] <PipeItToDevNull> https://askubuntu.com/questions/434581/problem-with-cache-upstart
[01:24] <kenrin> Looks like some python thing under unity7.log is making it huge
[02:08] <bet0x> I have Machine A (client) with connects to Machine B (Proxy) wich redirect to an server on my network. (Machine C) but when connection is established if Machine B goes down also the connection from A to C, what i can use to redirect and leave B alone after the redirect ?
[02:15] <Ben64> bet0x: ???
[03:01] <fl00fykittry> when you are trying to install a wireless driver what do you do when u get module xxx is in use fatal error?
[03:24] <Kali_Yuga> where is the md5sum of xubuntu 16.04?
[03:27] <bazhang> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuHashes Kali_Yuga
[03:37] <Kali_Yuga> bazhang: oh thx forgot found it already
[03:48] <loppy2> can you set GPU priorities in ubuntu?
[04:11] <Kali_Yuga> what could cause my internet to drop every few minutes for a few seconds? this wifi card worked fine and this never happend didn't change anything either. on the other computer we have it's not happening. the weird thing is it even happens on a live stick.
[04:14] <Kali_Yuga> any idea
[04:16] <Kali_Yuga> I pinged last timed it went down again this was the result until it came back online: https://paste.ubuntu.com/25195187/
[04:17] <xit> Kali_Yuga, bad router?
[04:17] <xit> Kali_Yuga, oh, only one computer...
[04:18] <Kali_Yuga> xit: no we just got a new one. and like I said it's no occuring on the other PC we got here
[04:18] <Kali_Yuga> not*
[04:19] <xit> is it possible to connect directly without the wifi card?
[04:20] <Kali_Yuga> xit: the router to far from here. :/
[04:20] <xit> k
[04:20] <Kali_Yuga> is*
[04:21] <xit> try pinging the router (192.168.1.1?) and then 8.8.8.8 in a separate terminal.  Do they both go out at the same time?
[04:22] <Kali_Yuga> but why does it happen even on a live stick?
[04:23] <xit> it must be something hardware, ip address, network related, rather than something running on the system causing it.
[04:23] <Kali_Yuga> xit: I believe they all go out
[04:24] <Kali_Yuga> for like 10-30 seconds & comes back online
[04:24] <xit> hmm
[04:25] <Kali_Yuga> it's pretty annoying. i start blaming the wifi card itself. it has to be on my end
[04:26] <Kali_Yuga> started happening couple weeks ago for no reason
[04:26] <xit> Is it a laptop?
[04:27] <Kali_Yuga> xit: yes
[04:28] <xit> try connecting to another network when you get a chance, just to rule out your network/router.  If it happens on another network, yeah, it's likely the wifi card.
[04:29] <Kali_Yuga> I read wifi card is an Intel centrino wireless-N 2230
[04:31] <Kali_Yuga> yeah when I get around to it I'll install another wifi usb stick, and see if it's still happening
[04:31] <Kali_Yuga> or yeah test somewhere else
[04:58] <n0rthlight> hello, I am looking for verified my Iso I just downloaded however following this guide is a disaster: https://tutorials.ubuntu.com/tutorial/tutorial-how-to-verify-ubuntu#5
[04:58] <n0rthlight> :)
[05:06] <sary> n0rthlight: disaster ..! it's simple.. which step are you stuck with!
[05:06] <lamduh> anyone have any ideas on how to fix me getting stuck at a black screen with white dots and green lines when I click "try without installing"
[05:07] <n0rthlight> Sary all I did download the 17,04 file
[05:07] <sary> lamduh: does the machine have a dual graphics!
[05:07] <n0rthlight> however the text below .. I am not sure what is the command..
[05:08] <lamduh> yeah....nividia and integrated
[05:08] <lamduh> been trying to fix this for over 6 hours now
[05:08] <lamduh> nomodeset lets me install it, but then the green lines come back when I try to boot after installation and nomodeset doesnt help
[05:09] <sary> n0rthlight: do you see or have the SHA256SUMS hashes ..
[05:09] <n0rthlight> I have download those txt and gdp files
[05:10] <n0rthlight> yes
[05:10] <n0rthlight> They are in the same folder has the .iso.
[05:11] <YankDownUnder> lamduh, Have you looked at other options for the boot parameters?
[05:11] <sary> n0rthlight: ok then , run the sha256sum depends on your host OS ..
[05:11] <lamduh> havent tried any. I feel liek I just need to boot once so I can install drivers and it will work
[05:12] <YankDownUnder> lamduh, I'll assume you've done a COLD boot? Meaning - you've turned the machine completely off and waited a few seconds and then turned it on again to see if that resolves the graphics/boot issue?
[05:13] <lamduh> hmm I dont think ive waited more than a few seconds between holding the power off and not
[05:13] <sary> lamduh: i suppose when you see that black screen you could switch to a virtual machine with Alt+Ctrl+F3 , and install the nvidia driver .. i don't remember the exact name for the tool , it could be update-drivers .. lemme check!
[05:13] <n0rthlight> Sary Well this is were I am stuck. I am on Mint atm.
[05:13] <lamduh> I just got into the "try xubuntu without installing" screen with nomodeset on...maybe if I download the nvidia drivers there then try to install it will work?
[05:13] <lamduh> ah cool thanks sary will try that next
[05:14] <lamduh> Dont want to have to development on windows ever again
[05:14] <n0rthlight> I dont udnerstand how to run it :)
[05:15] <lamduh> weird when I try to switch to the nvidia driver in the trial xubuntu it just swaps it back to xubuntu
[05:16] <lamduh> think the command might be ubuntu drivers
[05:16] <sary> n0rthlight: in terminal type : SHA256SUM and paste the iso file after SHA256SUM and hit enter ..
[05:16] <lamduh> *ubuntu-drivers
[05:18] <sary> lamduh: yes it is ubuntu-drivers devices , according to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[05:18] <n0rthlight> Sary command not found.
[05:19] <lamduh> will try it after this attempt at installing xubuntu...
[05:19] <sary> n0rthlight: then i guesse SHA256SUM isn't installaed , either install it or try with md5sum instead ..
[05:20] <sary> md5sum ubuntu.iso
[05:20] <n0rthlight> That explain my struggle.. :P
[05:25] <lamduh> before I restart, I realized a 462 gb volume appeared on my trial version of xubuntu when I installed
[05:25] <lamduh> is there anyway I can run a terminal as root in that parition and install drivers before I restart?
[05:27] <sary> you mean within the live session ..! no that's not how it works .. just install normally and reboot , when get the black screen switch to a VT , login and run the driver installer manaully..
[05:28] <lamduh> yeah I just wanted to try it before hand okay restarting now
[05:28] <lamduh> alt ctrl f3 doesnt affect the screen status :(
[05:30] <lamduh> http://imgur.com/a/CyB7O
[05:30] <lamduh> just looks like that
[05:32] <sary> try disabling the on board intel graphic card in the BIOS , and boot with the nvidia one .. the kernel have the free Nouveau nvidia driver loaded , ones you reach desktop GUI , you can active the nvidia driver.. am pretty sure you'll be able to reach the desktop bootin' with the Intel Graphics only ...
[05:34] <lamduh> will try that
[05:34] <lamduh> do you think the sata mods mater at all> ahci vs raid vs ide>?
[05:38] <lamduh> ah well I was using the PEG (nvidia) card..switched to Integrated graphics will see if anything changes
[05:39] <lamduh> oh thank god finally got to the logins creen
[05:39] <lamduh> when I logged in I got system problem detected
[05:44] <sary> lamduh: you didn't boot this time with nomodeset, or did you! we only need to boot with it temporary as nomodeset will disable KMS.
[05:47] <lamduh> I booted with intel graphics. I am no longer getting the grub menu so there is no where to set nomodeset
[05:47] <lamduh> just installed all drivers...going to switch back to discrete graphics now and see what happens
[05:47] <lamduh> the system problemw as caused by sbin/plymouthd on startup....but I rando sudo apt-get install plymouth-x11 so hopefully that is fixed too
[05:49] <vlt> Hello. I’m using cheese to display the webcam input on screen in realtime. How can I either remove the upper and lower title and status bar in fullscreen mode or use another tool that does this but (unlike vlc) without added delay?
[05:49] <lamduh> okay moving my vga cord is going to get old soon haha... well I see a different screen now which I think is good.
[05:50] <tripelb> 14.4 I want to transfer all the files in a directory to another partition which does not contain an OS. BUT I do not have permission to write on it. I am blocked and frustrated. What do I do?  I want to rewrite the partition and I need to save the files.  What IF I boot from a live-flashdrive?
[05:50] <lamduh> now im stuck at /dev/sda2: clean 207k/294mil files
[05:51] <tripelb> Thanks for the help...after all these years.
[05:52] <lamduh> thank god its fixed!!!!!
[05:52] <lamduh> thank you so much sary!!!
[05:52] <lamduh> for posterity, needed ot boot using intel integrated graphics, run ubuntu-drivers autoinstall, then boot using nvidia graphics card
[05:54] <lamduh> now one more quick question. I see "no caching page mode found" during boot. Is there any reson this should pop up if im using an ssd?
[06:04] <sary> tripelb: So you want to do something like this : https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Partitioning/Home/Moving
[06:04] <sary> lamduh: Hiya, well done.. you did it! :)
[06:06] <lamduh> ha yeah...i dont even care about the caching thing.must be something to do with the samsung ssd
[06:06] <lamduh> that was lie 7 hours of debugging...think I am done for the day lol
[06:07] <sary> that message could also appear with a HDD or a usb , i thik you should read about it.
[06:07] <sary> :)
[06:10] <lamduh> okay ha..in a second..forgot I need to test if I can flip between hard drives easily and my system crash error is still appearing
[06:10] <lamduh> then caching
[06:54] <locrian9> Does anyone know some good active irc channels for troubleshooting cisco network related equipment (eg ASA5505's)?  I'm already waiting on #cisco and #networking for a reply...
[06:57] <mrig> Hello, I am having some boot problems with ubuntu 16.04 on a lenovo, can anyone help?
[06:58] <Ben64> mrig: usually best to explain the problem fully
[06:59] <mrig> The password no longer sets the os into motion, this is a fresh install due to the problem I re-installed yesterday only to find that it happens again.
[07:00] <lamduh>  My sound device isn't showing up in sound devices. Any ideas? When I do aplay -l I see the fiio e10k listed, but I can't select it as an output device. The audio device is said to be on "card 2" rather than card "1"
[07:00] <mrig> So I get to the password entry window and when entered correctly the screen goes black with one bar at the top, then it returns to the password screen, in a different way to when it is entered incorrectly.
[07:00] <Ben64> mrig: try logging in as a guest
[07:01] <mrig> That works ok.
[07:01] <mrig> I still have windows on a dual boot and that works fine too.
[07:02] <Ben64> well you either got some files in your home directory that aren't owned by you or some other thing
[07:02] <mrig> Oh, I tried to log in in recovery mode to set the su password but I dont seem to be able to.
[07:03] <mrig> The files in home is possible I guess, any way to check on that?
[07:04] <geirha> "set the su password"?
[07:04] <mrig> geirha:Yes, it is not set by default, but it worries me that I cant get to the command line.
[07:06] <Ben64> mrig: ctrl+alt+f1
[07:07] <mrig> It is a fresh install but I have copied my backed up files over to the system, it was running all day yesterday, I even closed it down and re booted. It is curious how it came about.
[07:07] <mrig> Oh of course I have forgotten about the ttys!
[07:08] <sary> lamduh: are you able to select it using alsamixer or pavucontrol ..!
[07:09] <geirha> because ubuntu relies on sudo, root needs no password, and there's no need to use su
[07:09] <lamduh> sary, I dont see the option avbaiable in pavucontrol
[07:10] <mrig> Ben64: I have managed to log in but not on the first attempt.
[07:11] <lamduh> I can see it in pacmd list-sinsk
[07:13] <lamduh> hm I see it in pabucontrol now as digihug usb audio analog stereo and its port is analog output w.e that means
[07:13] <Sbur3> I have a USB key with stuff on it.  In the file manager, it "sees" the files.  But when I try to access it (it is mounted), I get an I/O error.  How do I recover the pictures on it?
[07:13] <mrig> Ben64 I am logged in but my home is not decrypted.
[07:14] <Ben64> oh encrypted home, well i'm out
[07:15] <mrig> Ben64 I have the key no problem
[07:15] <Ben64> well i don't do encryption, dunno how to manually mount it decrypted or anything, so i can't really help you with that
[07:15] <mrig> Would like to know what the cause is though, but thank you for your help
[07:16] <mrig> I have done before will take a look at that, chek that all files are owned by me.
[07:16] <Ben64> usually when people can't log in, it's because they use sudo incorrectly and end up changing ownership of certain files
[07:16] <mrig> It is possible that my back up has copied over files as root rather than owned by me.
[07:17] <mrig> Be great if that is all that it is ...
[07:18] <geirha> This will list any files in your homedir that is not owned by you:  sudo find "$HOME" ! -user "$USER" -ls
[07:18] <Ben64> after home is decrypted :)
[07:18] <Sbur3> I imagine that this is not good to see ....Bus 002 Device 006: ID abcd:1234 Unknown
[07:19] <geirha> if you copied over the encrypted home ... no idea what happens
[07:20] <sary> Sbur3: you said it's mounted , it's probable under /media/YOURUSER/ .. are you able to ls -al to it !
[07:22] <Sbur3> sary: This is what I think is reference to it ... but without any certainties ...drwxr-xr-x  24 steve steve 65536 Jan  1  1970 F4AA-1C19
[07:22] <Sbur3> sary: Is that good?
[07:25] <mrig> geirha: copied as normal files, the system has done the encryption. Still not in there yet.
[07:26] <EriC^^> Sbur3: that looks like a fat32 partition
[07:26] <sary> Sbur3: looks fine to me as it's identical to my mounted usb permassions. so it's good .. is suppose now you could try coping from it to the HDD/SSD using cp ...
[07:26] <EriC^^> mrig: what's up?
[07:27] <Sbur3> EriC^^: I wouldn't care what kind of partition.  What insterests me is recovering a couple years of photos
[07:27] <EriC^^> Sbur3: ok, well browse the dir and see if it's the hdd in question
[07:27] <Sbur3> sary: The first thing I'd like to do is to use import from Shotwell to recover the photos
[07:28] <Sbur3> EriC^^: It aint an HDD, it's a usb memory stick
[07:28] <EriC^^> Sbur3: ok, i dont know what you are up to, just confirming that the dir is a fat32 partition (which most usb's are)
[07:28] <EriC^^> carry on :)
[07:30] <mrig> EriC^^ My system wont let me log in, I have managed with a tty but the home remains encrypted, suspect the encription from stopping normal login which fails with no warning at the password prompt.
[07:30] <Sbur3> EriC^^: sary: When I go into file manager and click on the usb thing, I get this message ... "Failed to open directory F4AA-1C19," followed by this ....
[07:30] <Sbur3> Error when getting information for file “/media/steve/F4AA-1C19/LOST.DIR”: Input/output error
[07:31] <EriC^^> mrig: did you recently change the user's password?
[07:31] <mrig> Just reading up on ecryptfs-mount-private
[07:31] <mrig> It is a fresh install, reinstalled due to the very same problem.
[07:32] <mrig> Rather frustrating, I could no longer login yesterday morning, I though that perhaps someone had got to root and changed the password.
[07:32] <EriC^^> mrig: try logging in from a tty, then try "df -h" and see if it mentions the word .Private somewhere
[07:33] <EriC^^> mrig: it sounds like a graphics driver problem to me
[07:33] <mrig> But now that it happens again, after I changed the password ... The password worked in the tty, but did not open the encryted drive.
[07:33] <EriC^^> Sbur3: can you browse the files with the terminal? "ls -l /media/steve/F4AA-1C19" ?
[07:34] <EriC^^> mrig: yes, if you change the password it will no longer decrypt it properly cause it uses the password to unwrap the passphrase (the very long key that you should write down in case of disasters)
[07:35] <EriC^^> mrig: change the password back to the original one, or wrap the passphrase with the new password to get it working again
[07:35] <mrig> It is the same password that the drive was made with.
[07:35] <Sbur3> EriC^^: There are two messages at first that talk of I/O errors, but the rest is listed
[07:36] <EriC^^> Sbur3: aha, and what is the stuff you need to recover?
[07:36] <mrig> This is the encrypt home folder option at install time.
[07:36] <mrig> THe data has been restored from an unlocked backup.
[07:36] <EriC^^> mrig: so after the installation, you never changed the password?
[07:36] <mrig> NO
[07:37] <mrig> ops No
[07:37]  * mrig did not intend to shout :)
[07:37] <EriC^^> do you have the passphrase written down?
[07:38] <Sbur3> EriC^^: I'm trying to pastebin, but I think that I'm on the wrong site, cuz I don't find the button to paste so I can give you the URL
[07:38] <mrig> it is an algorithm that allows me to remember it correctly.
[07:38] <EriC^^> mrig: nevermind the above, try to ecryptfs-mount-private and see how it goes
[07:39] <Sbur3> EriC^^: Basically everything except the two things that show I/O errors
[07:39] <mrig> just looking at that, when in the folder with an encrypted blob, can I just run it pointing at the file?
[07:40] <EriC^^> Sbur3: where do you want to save the files to? your home dir?
[07:40] <mrig> hm, no man page
[07:40] <Sbur3> EriC^^: http://pastebin.ca/3848724
[07:40] <EriC^^> mrig: do you have it installed?
[07:41] <mrig> no just checking and its not there, on that
[07:41] <Sbur3> EriC^^: I just want to get them to a place where Shotwell can recover the photos, primarily.  I do have a couple other things that I could save in ~/Downloads
[07:42] <EriC^^> Sbur3: ok, type "sudo rsync -av /media/steve/ ~/"
[07:44] <EriC^^> mrig: try "ls -l /home" is there an .ecryptfs there?
[07:45] <mrig> ok, I am in my home directory!
[07:45] <mrig> Yippie!
[07:45] <EriC^^> so the files are there?
[07:46] <mrig> so I need to search for files that are not owned by me?
[07:46] <Sbur3> EriC^^: https://www.pastebin.ca/3848728
[07:46] <EriC^^> i'll take that as a yes
[07:46] <EriC^^> mrig: no, your files should be in /home/youruser
[07:46] <Sbur3> EriC^^: Is that good?  (I replaced ~ by F4AA-1C19
[07:46] <Sbur3> )
[07:46] <mrig> Yes files are there
[07:47] <EriC^^> Sbur3: what was the command you ran?
[07:47] <mrig> skipped into the link for this, must learn a little more about all this encryption wizardry.
[07:47] <EriC^^> Sbur3: the command creates in your home dir a dir called F4AA-... with the stuff in it
[07:47] <Sbur3> EriC^^:sudo rsync -av /media/steve/F4AA-1C19
[07:48] <EriC^^> followed by ~/ ?
[07:48] <Sbur3> EriC^^: No
[07:48] <EriC^^> that's needed
[07:48] <Sbur3> EriC^^: Did I mess something up?
[07:48] <HiDeHo> hi all what is the app to copy audio cds and encode track info to them
[07:49] <EriC^^> Sbur3: type "sudo rsync -av /media/steve/F4AA-1C19 ~/"
[07:49] <Sbur3> EriC^^: And the , is it supposed to be the directory where I recover the stuff?
[07:49] <EriC^^> Sbur3: yup exactly
[07:50] <mrig> I am in atty, still can not log in with X
[07:50] <Sbur3> EriC^^: sending incremental file list
[07:50] <mrig> ah there are some files where the owner is root, could that cause this?
[07:50] <EriC^^> mrig: ok, stay in the tty and type "df -h | nc termview.me 9999"
[07:51] <Sbur3> EriC^^: rsync: link_stat "/media/steve/F44AA-11C19" failed: No such file or directory (2)
[07:51] <Sbur3>  
[07:51] <EriC^^> mrig: yes, especially if it's ~/.Xauthority that is owned by root
[07:51] <Sbur3> sent 18 bytes  received 12 bytes  60.00 bytes/sec
[07:51] <Sbur3> EriC^^: total size is 0  speedup is 0.00
[07:51] <Sbur3> rsync error: some files/attrs were not transferred (see previous errors) (code 23) at main.c(1196) [sender=3.1.2]
[07:51] <EriC^^> mrig: type "sudo chown -R $USER: /home/youruser"
[07:52] <Sbur3> EriC^^: I can't have lost those photos
[07:52] <EriC^^> Sbur3: you put an extra 4 after F4
[07:52] <EriC^^> Sbur3: no worries
[07:53] <EriC^^> Sbur3: you can use the tab key to autocomplete filename's in the shell
[07:53] <Sbur3> EriC^^: sending incremental file list
[07:53] <Sbur3> rsync: readlink_stat("/media/steve/F4AA-1C19/LOST.DIR") failed: Input/output error (5)
[07:53] <Sbur3> rsync: readlink_stat("/media/steve/F4AA-1C19/Temples") failed: Input/output error (5)
[07:53] <Sbur3>  
[07:53] <EriC^^> Sbur3: no worries, is it continuing with the rest of the files?
[07:53] <mrig> Oh nice! :~ http://termview.me/13wc/
[07:53] <Sbur3> EriC^^: And it's not yet back to the prompt
[07:54] <EriC^^> Sbur3: ok, it should be copying the other files right now
[07:54] <Sbur3> EriC^^: Nothing else ... It's hanging
[07:54] <EriC^^> mrig: ok, so the encrypted dir is decrypted and mounted correctly
[07:54] <mrig> Yes it seems to be fine.
[07:55] <Sbur3> EriC^^: Got no verbose yet
[07:55] <EriC^^> mrig: type "cd /home" then type sudo mv * (press ctrl+x then press * again, it will list all the files there, remove your username from the list) /home/iain
[07:55] <mrig> I have changed the file ownership and it has logged me in in tty 7
[07:56] <EriC^^> mrig: that way you'd have moved all the files to your decrypted home dir where they belong
[07:57] <Sbur3> EriC^^: So far, all I am seeing is Trash-1000 with I/O/ error messages.  I didn't see if photos were moved
[07:58] <EriC^^> Sbur3: how big is the usb?
[07:58] <Sbur3> EriC^^: I'll get back to you .. .  The USB says it is 512GB, but there was only something like 4.5GB on it
[07:59] <Sbur3> EriC^^: And in the file manager, it says it is a 537GB thing
[07:59] <EriC^^> it's on its way out, if you can spare the space, it would be better if you try to ddrescue it and work on that image to recover your files, aha that's pretty big
[07:59] <EriC^^> i guess it's a trade off of your time/space and how important the files are to you
[08:00] <Sbur3> EriC^^: The pictures are of utmost importance to me sentimentally
[08:00] <Sbur3> EriC^^: I would have preferred to exclude Trash-1000 ;)
[08:01] <EriC^^> mrig: there are also the hidden .dot files, so also do sudo mv .*  (same thing here except be sure to remove the "." and ".." and also also ".ecryptfs" and ".Private" , double check everything before you press enter) /home/iain
[08:01] <Sbur3> EriC^^: ddrescue,where can I get that and for how much?
[08:01] <EriC^^> Sbur3: ok i think it's just going to say input output for the ones it can't get, and try to copy the others
[08:02] <mrig> Just reading through your instructions now, the files are already in there though.
[08:02] <Sbur3> EriC^^: I'm going to let it continue.  Gotta make the Mrs happy
[08:02] <Sbur3> EriC^^: Thanks a lot for your help
[08:02] <Sbur3> I'm outta here
[08:03] <EriC^^> mrig: what's in "ls -la /home" ?
[08:05] <mrig> `.ecryptfs` and `user`
[08:05] <mrig> love the *<c-x>* :D
[08:07] <EriC^^> mrig: looks about right
[08:07] <mrig> all seems good! :) Thank you very much for your help; EriC^^ Ben64 geirha
[08:09] <mrig> Yes, with a reboot the login has worked fine, thanks guys.
[08:11] <mrig> EriC^^ were those temp files made by the encryption software?
[08:14] <mrig> oh just rereading, should I remove .ecryptfs?
[08:18] <mrig> Oh I see, .ecryptfs contains my home directory.
[09:20] <BluesKaj> 'Morning folks
[09:33] <OERIAS> Hello
[09:34] <OERIAS> I have an issue with a trackpad
[09:34] <OERIAS> I think I disabled it
[09:34] <OERIAS> and I can't move the cursor
[09:34] <OERIAS> Can someone help?
[09:34] <OERIAS> I am only able to move the cursor with a mouse
[09:47] <Jezekus> Hi all, may I ask are there any known issues with ports.ubuntu.com? I am not able to reach this site over https
[09:49] <YankDownUnder> Jezekus, I'm getting it here...
[09:50] <Jezekus> I'm getting errors on apt update that update cant be done securely, I'm little puzzled
[09:51] <YankDownUnder> I'll assume you're using the terminal and you're watching the errors, yeah?
[10:03] <Jezekus> YankDownUnder: Yes
[10:05] <Jezekus> YankDownUnder: https://pastebin.com/MiWAvtNB getting these errors but currently dont have a clue why
[10:07] <Jezekus> I got it! there is a DNS problem on my machine!
[10:07] <ShNaYkHs> Suppose I copy a linux system (which is on usb key, ext4) to a disk which is ntfs format. If I format the usb (ext4) and then copy back the system to the usb, would it still work, or would it be corrupted (because of ntfs) ?
[10:09] <friendlyguy> hi there! i am wondering if somebody got a dell 7510 with multiple external screens runnning
[10:10] <friendlyguy> ideally it would be intenal + 2 external
[10:12] <friendlyguy> 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation HD Graphics 530 (rev 06)
[10:12] <friendlyguy> 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation GM107GLM [Quadro M2000M] (rev ff)
[10:13] <friendlyguy> those are the cards present in my system
[10:21] <snpresent> hi
[10:38] <tomreyn> ShNaYkHs: if you'd copy those files as they are then file system object ownership and permissions as well as special file system objects (symlinks, hard links, fifos, device nodes, ...) would be lost
[10:39] <tomreyn> ShNaYkHs: you could,. however create a tar archive of the contents of the ext4 file system on the ntfs
[10:40] <tomreyn> alternatively, you could create an image of the entire partition or entire usb stick and store it on the ntfs (assuming there is sufficient space available).
[10:41] <tomreyn> friendlyguy: you might have a better chance to get response if you ask the underlying question
[11:06] <kong_> hello , somebody have this problem in 16.04 ?  https://askubuntu.com/questions/841218/ssh-continually-hangs-on-ubuntu-16-04
[11:15] <tripelb> To whoever said try using root. (In order to write on another (data) partition.)  - how can I do that from a liveUSB? MUST I use terminal?  Is the command  $ sudo cp -R dir1 dir2    and it will copy all the interior directories?  BUT if computer, dir1, and dir2 are on 3 separate partitions, I have to describe the path of dir1 and dir2 fully. Is that sda1 as the name of the partition in the path name?
[11:16] <tripelb> Thanks. I will look in later. Hope I see it.
[11:25] <fuser> Holy hell. When the system is low on memory and you try to copy a large file to a USB the whole thing grounds to a halt. And I'm not talking about scheduling issues. It'll say 9 minutes left (1MB/s) and 9 minutes later it'll say 8 minutes left, still 1MB/s. The whole system breaks the fuck down. The transfer rate must be measured in application time and the kernel must be having a seasure. The thing is, I think I still had a gig or
[11:25] <fuser> 500MB left of my 16GBs. Once I freed some memory the transfer rate shot up and the system became usable.
[11:26] <fuser> What a terrible, sad joke. I hope this issue is known.
[11:26] <gabmus> hello people. I am trying to install python3-evdev on ubuntu mate 17.10, but I'm getting the following error: "python3-evdev : Depends: python3 (< 3.6) but 3.6.1-0ubuntu2 is to be installed". Any ideas?
[11:26] <fuser> And this is not a paging to disk issue. I have that disabled.
[11:29] <tomreyn> tripelb: please repeat what you are generally trying to achieve
[11:32] <tomreyn> !ubuntu+1 | gabmus
[11:32] <gabmus> tomreyn: thanks
[11:40] <al2o3-cr> what happens when you run out of animals?
[11:55] <geirha> al2o3-cr: The namespace includes fictional animals, so one can just invent new animals
[11:56] <al2o3-cr> oh i see :)
[11:57] <geirha> 9.04 Jaunty Jackalope
[11:57] <Fuchs> also it's not like one would ever run out of animals, given there are a couple of hundred
[12:03] <gijs_> some letters may be a challenge
[12:12] <forget-rin> whois forget-rin
[12:14] <Sbur3> I'm back ... I was counseled to do a "rsync" to recover the information from my USB memory key.  It has finally started to recover things from F4AA-1C19.  But will it recover from directories on the usb key or will it just recover from the "root" directory?
[12:17] <Sbur3> sary: Do you remember my USB memory key problem from a couple hours ago?  Eric^^ helped me by suggesting that I do a rsync to recover my data.  But I don't yet know if the command will recover inside directories on the USB key or just the stuff on the main directory
[12:18] <Sbur3> EriC^^: Hello.  Do you remember my usb key problem from earlier?  Will the command you gave me recover in directories inside the usb key or just on surface?
[12:22] <EriC^^> Sbur3: hey, yes inside the usb as well
[12:23] <Sbur3> EriC^^: So I should in the near future start finding /media/steve/F4AA-1C19/subdirectory/photo.jpg?
[12:23] <EriC^^> Sbur3: yeah
[12:23] <EriC^^> Sbur3: you never deleted them did you?
[12:25] <Sbur3> EriC^^: Why would I have deleted something that I now want to recover at all costs?
[12:25] <Sbur3> ;)
[12:26] <EriC^^> Sbur3: it happens :D
[12:26] <Sbur3> EriC^^: And you mean that I hadn't deleted then recovered the things?
[12:26] <EriC^^> no i mean recovering here could mean a ton of stuff to you and me
[12:26] <EriC^^> if they're still there (undeleted) then rsync should find and attempt to copy them, give it some time
[12:27] <Sbur3> EriC^^: I mean recovering pictures that relate the story of my wife and me
[12:27] <EriC^^> Sbur3: it should be done thuogh since a long time, you said 4gb of data that's all right?
[12:28] <Sbur3> EriC^^: It started showing files without I/O error about 10 minutes ago.  Must have had a load in TRASH-1000
[12:28] <EriC^^> Sbur3: oh ok, maybe the i/o errors make it slower, it should finish quickly then hopefully
[12:29] <Sbur3> EriC^^: I haven't yet seen subdiretory stuff.  Once I get through a couple films in the main directory, it should start flying to completion
[12:30] <Sbur3> EriC^^: Can't forget that I have a desktop with an i3 in it.  Takes longer than an i7 or similar
[12:31] <Sbur3> EriC^^: Again, great thanks.  If I wasn't on another continent, I'd shake your hand ...
[12:50] <frankspank> !pondering42 Michael Lewis - The Big Short, Inside the Doomsday Machine (mobi).rar  ::INFO:: 350.9KB
[13:37] <rajivmars> yesterday when i had installed gimp then the maximixe/unmaximize button of it works, but now this function stops working. how to make this work again in gimp? i am using ubuntu 16.04
[14:39] <new_ubuntu> Hi, I'm on linux ubuntu 16.04 kde, and the video thumbnails wouldn't show. Need help please
[14:43] <plaindave> new_ubuntu, which video thumbnails are you referring to?
[14:44] <new_ubuntu> plaindave: the video thumbnail in file explorer dolphin
[14:45] <plaindave> new_ubuntu, oh okay. Sorry, I can't help. I thought it might be something that I could help with.
[14:45] <ioria> new_ubuntu, kubuntu or ubuntu+kde ?
[14:45] <new_ubuntu> ioria: kubuntu 16.04
[14:46] <new_ubuntu> the video thumbnails in dolphin wouldn't show. I have read that it has something to do with ffmpeg
[14:46] <ioria> new_ubuntu, maybe you need a plugin and set it Preferences
[14:46] <ioria> !info ffmpegthumbs xenial
[14:46] <new_ubuntu> ioria: but how do I install ffpegthumbs, there's no option in dolphin to install them
[14:47] <ioria> new_ubuntu, no, it's a pkg
[14:47] <ioria> new_ubuntu, https://askubuntu.com/questions/411891/dolphin-does-not-show-thumbnails
[14:47] <new_ubuntu> so I can install ffmpegthumbs packaage and it wold work?
[14:48] <ioria> new_ubuntu, check the link above ^
[14:48] <new_ubuntu> ok ioria
[14:49] <new_ubuntu> ioria: I just checked your link out, but it doesn't say anywhere on how to install the plugin
[14:50] <ioria> new_ubuntu,  as i said  it's a pkg, you install it with sudo apt install
[14:50] <MonkeyDust> new_ubuntu  scroll down to   <3>
[14:51] <new_ubuntu> MonkeyDust: scroll down to <3> in the link?
[14:51] <MonkeyDust> new_ubuntu  yes
[14:51] <cfhowlett> new_ubuntu, as explained clearly where it says "In a terminal"
[14:51] <new_ubuntu> ok thanks guys
[14:52] <oerheks> depends where those video-thumbs must come from, external disk would give a huge transfer first, to do this.
[14:53] <brunch> Heya! I'm handling an ubuntu server and I'm doing some configuration changes I wish to document in case I need to re-do them (or someone else). What would be a good practice for this? Leaving README.txt around the folders I visit?
[14:53] <ioria> brunch, i simply use a .back file
[14:54] <brunch> ioria: thanks for the tip
[14:54] <ioria> no prob
[14:55] <oerheks> brunch, if you need to redo those things in the future, would it be wise to keep it on the same machine?
[14:55] <new_ubuntu> ioria: I have one more problem, my bluetooth is not working
[14:55] <doux> tar whole system backup Question: I followed the Ubuntu instructions using --one-file-system option. After I restore my Virtualbox system and try to do sudo apt-get update, I get an error like: E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11: Resource temporary unavailable)  - AND something like: E: Unable to lock the admin directory /var/lib/dpkg, is another process using it?  What did I do wrong with my tar command for my system
[14:55] <doux> backup/restore?
[14:55] <MonkeyDust> new_ubuntu  install blueman
[14:56] <ioria> new_ubuntu, yeah that ^
[14:56] <new_ubuntu> blueman, monkeydust? after that bluetooth will work
[14:56] <brunch> oerheks: well, for this particular scenario I'm setting up some certificates which I'll eventually automate with cron jobs, but I'm sure I'll forget about the how-to's next time I work with them
[14:56] <doux> I used this website: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem/TAR
[14:56] <brunch> if I have to do the same on a different server, I'll probably try to follow my steps
[14:57] <new_ubuntu> MonkeyDust: do you mean bluemon, because in the terminal it says "blueman" commad not found
[14:57] <MonkeyDust> new_ubuntu  type    sudo apt install blueman
[14:57] <new_ubuntu> I did MonkeyDust . it says command not found
[14:58] <MonkeyDust> new_ubuntu  then you're doing something wrong, make sure you don't mistype
[14:59] <oerheks> apt-get on 14.04 ..
[14:59] <MonkeyDust> oh, it's 14.04 ?
[14:59] <new_ubuntu> yes MonkeyDust
[14:59] <new_ubuntu> I installed blueman, MonkeyDust
[14:59] <MonkeyDust> new_ubuntu  ok      sudo apt-get install blueman
[15:00] <new_ubuntu> MonkeyDust: but after the bouncing cursor the application stops responding
[15:00] <oerheks> doux, so an other process is using apt right now, softwarecenter/synaptic open too ?
[15:00] <oerheks> or are there updates pending/w. reboot ?
[15:02] <doux> oerheks, I booted my VM and the tried the command. So I'm not sure what would be using it. Maybe it has something to do with the --one-file-system option? I will reboot and try again.
[15:02] <new_ubuntu> MonkeyDust: in the settings it says no bluetooth adapter found. It was working fine yesterday
[15:02] <oerheks> running virtualbox in a vm¿?
[15:03] <MonkeyDust> new_ubuntu  un/replug the bluetooth adapter
[15:03] <new_ubuntu> it is inbuilt in the laptop MonkeyDust . I can't take it out
[15:03] <cfhowlett> toggle the on/off switch
[15:04] <new_ubuntu> cfhowlett: my laptop doesn't have an off on    switch
[15:04] <[n0mad]> airplane mode?
[15:04] <doux> oerheks, I rebooted my guest Ubuntu MATE and I can now use sudo apt-get update... Thanks oerheks
[15:05] <oerheks> new_ubuntu, what is the output of: rfkill list all
[15:05] <new_ubuntu> n0mad, no it is online, no airplane mode
[15:05] <oerheks> doux, have fun!
[15:05] <new_ubuntu> oerheks: 0: phy0: Wireless LAN         Soft blocked: no         Hard blocked: no
[15:05] <oerheks> .. and the BT line?
[15:06] <new_ubuntu> oerheks: it is not showing bluetooth, yesterday it was showing and it was neither softblokced nor hard blocked
[15:06] <oerheks> if it does not show up, you do have a problem
[15:06] <oerheks> blocked in bios, i guess, or there is a FN key for it
[15:06] <oerheks> FN+ 7 or something like that
[15:07] <new_ubuntu> oerheks: everything is on. If it was off then wifi would show hard block too
[15:07] <tripelb> I want to write on another partition and I don't have permission.  - How can I do that? Could I from a liveUSB? (16.04 liveUSB or 14.04 partition,  from a Fedora 25 source.   [I am copying "Home" (/home) from a Fedora 25 partition to a data partition.]
[15:07] <oerheks> then m last guess: you have a dual-chip, bt+wifi, but not the correct driver for both of them, what does lspci give?
[15:08] <tripelb> So I can make it an Ubuntu 16.04 partition.
[15:08] <new_ubuntu> just a sec oerheks
[15:08] <Exterminador> guys, I'm having a problem when restarting Apache2: /usr/sbin/apache2ctl: 87: ulimit: error setting limit (Operation not permitted). any ideas?
[15:09] <oerheks> new_ubuntu, .. yesterday it did show up, in linux or windows?
[15:10] <new_ubuntu> oerheks: in ubuntu, in windows it works fine
[15:10] <new_ubuntu> oerheks: just a second for the lspci output
[15:10] <oerheks> oke, it has worked, so logicaly not a driver issue..
[15:11] <saitoh183> has anyone  setup UrBackup?
[15:12] <new_ubuntu> oerheks: https://paste.ubuntu.com/25197868/
[15:12] <new_ubuntu> oerheks: I did install bluetooth drivers from github(rtlwifi_new-rock.new_btcoex) because it was not working
[15:13] <tripelb> Oops
[15:13] <oerheks> new_ubuntu, yes it is a dual-chip... http://www.realtek.com/products/productsView.aspx?Langid=1&PNid=21&PFid=59&Level=5&Conn=4&ProdID=374
[15:14] <new_ubuntu> yes it is a dual chip, oerheks . Realtek has issues with ubuntu
[15:14] <new_ubuntu> just like nvidia graphics card, oerheks
[15:16] <oerheks> i think this page is a help > https://askubuntu.com/questions/607339/rtl8723be-bluetooth-does-not-work
[15:16] <BluesKaj> nvidia gpus run fine on ubuntu, without hybrid graphics that is
[15:17] <oerheks> build it ( with any new kernel again)  or use that ppa on 14.04
[15:18] <oerheks> maybe this is all fixed in the later versions, kernel 4.6 and up
[15:18] <new_ubuntu> thanks oerheks. I think I will install a new kernel. I am using the default kernel supplied with kubuntu 14.04, after that hopefully it will work
[15:19] <oerheks> odd thing is that it showed up, you claimed.
[15:20] <cfhowlett> new_ubuntu, current 14.04 is 14.04.5   sudo apt dist-upgrade will get the new kernels and possibly your issue
[15:23] <new_ubuntu> ok cfhowlett
[15:28] <cipher6> Where should I be extracting files?
[15:28] <cipher6> Is it cool to just extract into ~/Downloads and then install the program, then delete the extracted things?
[15:28] <cipher6> Or are those extracted files needed for hte program to execute after the fact
[15:29] <cipher6> Are the extracted files equivalent to C:\Program Files\ in a windows system?
[15:30] <cfhowlett> best practice is to install via the software center or using sudo apt install.  downloading wily nily things is going to lead to heartache
[15:30] <cipher6> cfhowlett, true, but in this case, I //need// to do this for this program and it's not going to be in software center, or the repo.
[15:31] <cipher6> (It's specifically the CLI for MasterPasswordApp.com)
[15:31] <cfhowlett> !source | cipher6
[15:32] <cfhowlett> ah, ignore the above cipher6
[15:32] <cipher6> cfhowlett, yeah, i was wonder wth you're on about lol
[15:32] <cipher6> :P
[15:32] <cfhowlett> your app ***should*** include very clear instructions for installation
[15:44] <strixUK> hi; how does ubuntu resolve .local addresses?  for some reason, local addresses are being resolved to the router's public IP rather than the local IP (and yet the dns server in the router returns NXDOMAIN)
[15:53] <cipher6> Where can I obtain a library containing the function AES_ENCRYPT ?
[15:55] <oerheks> cipher6, wouldn't that be part of the openssl package?
[15:57] <oerheks> !info libssl-dev
[15:57] <tomreyn> https://stackoverflow.com/questions/9889492/how-to-do-encryption-using-aes-in-openssl
[15:57] <tomreyn> not really an ubuntu user / sysadmin question, more C / programming related, i'd say
[15:57] <oerheks> oh, aes not included??
[15:58] <CoreJohnson> How do I identify the driver for my nic ?    is it modprob then find the hardware ans associated driver name ?
[15:58] <tomreyn>   2 #include <openssl/aes.h>   - i guess this means it's part of openssl libraries
[15:58] <CoreJohnson> -ans
[15:58] <oerheks> tomreyn, nevermind, i reacted too early, it is indeed part of -
[15:59] <tomreyn> actually, i'm not sure ;)
[15:59] <CoreJohnson> The nic works when plugged in. I'm just not sure why
[15:59] <tomreyn> CoreJohnson: lspci, if it's connected to the PCI bus, or lsusb if it's connected to the USB
[16:00] <tomreyn> or just run both and look for its name
[16:00] <oerheks> lspci -nnk | grep -iA2 net
[16:01] <CoreJohnson> tomreyn:   ah yes    thank you !
[16:01] <tomreyn> oerhek's answer is actually better and more precise ;)
[16:01] <CoreJohnson> tomreyn:  So if it's a RT2870/RT3070 chipset.   How can I identify the associated driver.
[16:02] <CoreJohnson> oerheks:  Thanks also
[16:02] <tomreyn> CoreJohnson: see what oerheks wrote
[16:02] <CoreJohnson> tomreyn:  :)      thanks
[16:02] <oerheks> Kernel driver in use: ???? Kernel modules: ????
[16:03] <oerheks> nice thing it gives both parts
[16:03] <CoreJohnson> oerherks:  IT's a usb alfa nic.  For kismet.  I'm trying to set the ncsource in kismet.conf.
[16:03] <CoreJohnson> oerherks:  I'm just being dumb I guess lol
[16:04] <tomreyn> CoreJohnson: how is it attached to your computer?
[16:05] <CoreJohnson> tomreyn:usb
[16:05] <tomreyn> CoreJohnson: please run: lsusb | nc termbin.com 9999
[16:05] <tomreyn> and tell us the url
[16:06] <CoreJohnson> tomreyn: http://termbin.com/bf6i
[16:07] <tomreyn> 148f:3070 is the USD device ID of your Ralink Technology, Corp. RT2870/RT3070 Wireless Adapter
[16:07] <tomreyn> lsmod | grep rt
[16:07] <tomreyn> should list the driver you have loaded
[16:07] <CoreJohnson> tomreyn:  Oh man.   nice command.  auto post to the site.  That's sweet
[16:08] <tomreyn> rather: lsmod | grep ^rt
[16:08] <oerheks> some distro's have nc not installed, and got exposed that way :-D
[16:09] <CoreJohnson> tomreyn:  ah :):)  It looks like tr2800usb
[16:09] <CoreJohnson> rt2800usb
[16:09] <CoreJohnson> oerheks:   nc not installed ?
[16:10] <oerheks> netcat, a standard util.
[16:10] <CoreJohnson> oerheks:  oh   right.  me dumb.  lol  thanks
[16:12] <CoreJohnson> tomreyn, oerheks:    Many thanks.  Thsi is getting me in the right direction.  lsmod      That's what I was forgetting.  I've been away from linux for a bit
[16:12] <CoreJohnson> shameful I know
[16:12] <CoreJohnson> brb: afk
[16:13] <BluesKaj> nothing shameful, you're back, that's what counts, CoreJohnson
[16:16] <Sbur3> EriC^: Just an update... the rsync command is still in progress.
[16:16] <EriC^> Sbur3: holy.. it's been a long time running
[16:17] <EriC^> that's insane
[16:17] <Sbur3> EriC^: Yup !!! But if, in the end, I get my photos, I'll be ok.  If not, then it will be my turn to be insane
[16:17] <Sbur3> ;)
[16:17] <EriC^> Sbur3: lol
[16:18] <Sbur3> EriC^: It's back doing I/O errors on Trash-1000
[16:19] <EriC^> Sbur3: i'd rerun the command with --ignore-errors and --exclude="Trash-1000"
[16:19] <EriC^> sudo rsync -av --exclude="Trash-1000" --ignore-errors /media/steve/F4.... ~/
[16:20] <EriC^> is it .Trash-1000 or Trash-1000 ?
[16:21] <oerheks> hidden, .Trash-1000
[16:21] <EriC^> Sbur3: or let it continue running, in any case, rsync is smart enough not to recopy the file it has copied already
[16:21] <EriC^> thanks oerheks
[16:22] <EriC^> Sbur3: sudo rsync -av --exclude=".Trash-1000" --ignore-errors /media/steve/F4.... ~/
[16:35] <tripelb> I want to write on another partition and I don't have permission.  - How can I do that? Could I from a liveUSB? (16.04 liveUSB or 14.04 partition,  from a Fedora 25 source.   [(I am copying "Home" (/home) from a Fedora 25 partition to a data partition. Then replace it with 16.04.)]
[16:36] <jer> tripelb, get permission, become root for instance.
[16:40] <tripelb> jer: can I do it in Dolphin/Nautilus or must I use bash?  -- bash is it:  sudo cp -R sda1something target    +++ where do I find what the partitions are called? Will that copy the whole directory structure? (Thanks)
[16:43] <tripelb> Het  I am now on a liveDVD, I mean flash drive. How can I become root?(+_+)
[16:45] <tripelb> Het IT DOESNT react to sudo
[16:46] <tripelb> Her from a liveUSB it does this react to sudo. I can go from a different partition. (Sorry you are busy)
[16:46] <[n0mad]> sudo -i ?
[16:47] <[n0mad]> sudo su ?
[16:47] <[n0mad]> i see info on both of those switching to root but kind of old info
[16:51] <lamduh> I have windows one 1 ssd and xubuntu on a 2nd. Do I need to do anything to setup grub or can I just sudo aptget it and it will know what to do?
[16:52] <tripelb> lamduh: what is then"it"?
[16:52] <tripelb> lamduh: what is the "it"?
[16:52] <lamduh> grub?
[16:52] <lamduh> maybe I already have grub but I just dont see the boot menu \because I only have one OS on this harddrive?
[16:53] <lamduh> yeah I see boot/grub so it must just not be detecting my other ssd
[16:53] <tripelb> Ok I only know so much. How do you choose which drive to boot from as it is?
[16:54] <tripelb> Ah lamduh  😚(TT
[16:54] <lamduh> I hit f11 when I am loading bios and choose a drive
[16:54] <lamduh> or like right after bios...whatever lets me choose a drive to boot from...wish it would just go to a menu automatically
[16:54] <tripelb> Ah lamduh  good noticing (emojis wrong sorry  kb changed)
[16:55] <tripelb> Let me Google it lamduh
[16:55] <tripelb> Bbs
[16:56] <lamduh> k thanks
[16:57] <tripelb> lamduh: https://askubuntu.com/questions/274371/install-on-second-hard-drive-with-startup-boot-option
[16:57] <lamduh> okay one sec let me try
[16:57] <tripelb> Luck, I made up good search terms lamduh
[16:59] <tripelb> Looks good to me lamduh. Happy trails.
[17:00] <lamduh> https://askubuntu.com/questions/197868/grub-does-not-detect-windows
[17:01] <lamduh> this one seemed simpler..just tried it...maybe you wil,l never see me again if I broke my boot ha brb
[17:03] <marahin> Hello! How can I find a package so I know how to install it - a package that is lib32-sqlite but in Arch?
[17:03] <marahin> apt-cache search sqlite |grep lib32 doesn't give me anything :(
[17:04] <marahin> Ubuntu 17.04.
[17:06] <amriunix> Hello!
[17:06] <arun007> amriunix: hello
[17:09] <tripelb> In dolphin/Nautilus I do not have permission to read the co tents of a partition o  the computer? (I need to read and copy it back it up!).
[17:10] <tripelb> Help!
[17:10] <arun007> tripelb: what error messages are you getting?
[17:11] <oerheks> tripelb, install nautilus-admin , then you could with r.mouse > open here as administrator, = sudo
[17:16] <oerheks> marahin, not sure what you want to do, that package is arch only??
[17:19] <mices> discuss postfix error in here?
[17:19] <oerheks> here or #ubuntu-server mices
[17:20] <oerheks> not sure what is the best channel on saturday/evening
[17:20] <mices> forgot what day it was with my mail server down the past few days i'm shot to hell
[17:20] <mices> do shut my server down
[17:21] <mices> i can't send it says timeout but i can receive
[17:21] <mices> my client times out trying to send and mail.log shows nothing
[17:38] <termcap> do you know the ip of the remote mail server to which you are trying to send the email ?
[17:39] <termcap> telnet remote.mail.server 25
[17:39] <termcap> and see if you can connect to that server on port 35
[17:39] <termcap> 25*
[17:45] <tripelb> Bheru27: I used to be able to use a liveDVD and read anything. LiveCD was the savior for retrieving data from busted systems.
[17:46] <tripelb> Anyone I can't do this now. Help please.: I used to be able to use a liveDVD and read anything. LiveCD was the savior for retrieving data from busted systems.
[17:46] <tripelb> w
[17:49] <tomreyn> tripelb: the ubuntu installer ISO image includes a live system
[17:49] <tomreyn> ubuntu desktop, to be precise.
[17:50] <tomreyn> tripelb: maybe you need to explain how you determine that you "can't do this now".
[17:50] <MonkeyDust> tripelb  what happesn when you try
[17:52] <tripelb> I g
[17:52] <tomreyn> ^ cannot parse
[17:54] <tripelb> MonkeyDust: hi I get no permission. In Nautilus. Now I am booting to the partition I want to back up from. (Fedora 25. I want to save a directory so then I will  replace the partition with 16.94
[17:54] <tripelb> I have been trying but I can't do sudo from the liveusb
[17:56] <MonkeyDust> tripelb  have you tried a fedora liveCD ?
[17:56] <n00b123> tripelb: what happens when you type: "sudo nautilus" on the terminal ??
[17:57] <MonkeyDust> tripelb  as i understand, you're using ubuntu, to save a fedora partition?
[17:58] <tripelb> MonkeyDust: I tried an Ubuntu LiveCD. Now from the fedora partition I don't have permission to create it, the directory, in a data partition.
[18:04] <tripelb> Monkey dust not quite. I want to transfer one directory of my data files from the fedora partition to a data partition, or to a 14.04 partition. I don't care.
[18:04] <tripelb> MonkeyDust: ^^
[18:05] <tripelb> I have been at this for hours started last night. (Had same problem in past and gave up.
[18:05] <oerheks> then you should mount that target partition properly
[18:06] <tripelb> It is mounted.
[18:09] <MonkeyDust> tripelb  wild idea ... copy the data to a ntfs partition ... then copy from there to the pubuntu partition ... not sure about the permissions, tho
[18:09] <tripelb> What is the command to see the read write permissions for a partition?
[18:10] <warri0rr> assuming you mounted the partition successfully, you can use ls -l?
[18:10] <ducasse> tripelb: 'mount'
[18:11] <Seveas_> tripelb: there's no such command as partitions don't have permissions, that's a property of the filesystem on them.
[18:11] <tripelb> How do I see if the data partition is NTFS or ext4? I forgot what I made it.
[18:11] <Seveas_> tripelb: sudo fdisk -l
[18:11] <MonkeyDust> tripelb  lsblk -f
[18:11] <tripelb> Sudo thanks Seveas_  it would not work without
[18:12] <warri0rr> sudo you're welcome
[18:13] <pavlos> tripelb: mount will list all partitions, see type ntfs and its parameters (rw implies read/write
[18:13] <tripelb> warri0rr: how do I see how big a directory is - in terminal
[18:14] <ducasse> tripelb: 'du -sh dirname'
[18:15] <tripelb> warri0rr: when I try to write on the ext4 drive with no is on it terminal complained it is not a directory.  I am using /dev/sda1/surname or same without dirname. What up?
[18:15] <tripelb> Ok ducasse i will do that.
[18:15] <warri0rr> bi nab
[18:15] <warri0rr> no man*
[18:15] <warri0rr> you have to mount the device
[18:15] <warri0rr> in order to access its filesystem
[18:16] <warri0rr> you cannot access it from /dev/ unless you want to read raw data
[18:18] <pavlos> tripelb: mount /dev/sda1 /mnt, then create /mnt/surname and write in there
[18:24] <tripelb> Pablo's I don't understand. (sda1 and sda2 were created by windows.
[18:25] <tripelb> I don't know what /many/surname is not Does but I am not writing in sda1
[18:25] <tripelb> I want to write in sda7
[18:26] <warri0rr> tripelb: Please explain yourself in proper english...................
[18:26] <pavlos> tripelb: I have not followed from the top, you just need to read off sda1? can't you mount it in /mnt and read it from there?
[18:26] <tripelb> warri0rr: I want to write to /dev/sda7/ and I don't have permission
[18:27] <Ben64> write to it how
[18:27] <pavlos> tripelb: sda7 is ntfs or ext4?
[18:27] <warri0rr> sudo mount /dev/sda7 /mnt/blahblah and then read?
[18:28] <tripelb> pavlos: sda7 is ext4 and has no OS on it.
[18:28] <pavlos> tripelb: as warri0rr wrote, you can mount /dev/sda7 /mnt and read from there
[18:29] <tripelb> It is mounted warri0rr  and I can read it.
[18:29] <tripelb> I want to write to it.
[18:29] <warri0rr> tripelb: chmod
[18:29] <Ben64> then chown the mountpoint
[18:29] <tripelb> I used to use a LiveCD and back up people's files with no problem. My head is in a dark place now.
[18:30] <warri0rr> Because you navigated the surface of linux
[18:30] <warri0rr> Now you're forced to dive deep
[18:30] <tripelb> Ok Ben64 I will look up how to do that.
[18:30] <pavlos> tripelb: mount | grep sda7 ... this should be one line
[18:30] <tripelb> I love it warri0rr
[18:31] <Ben64> tripelb: sudo chown $USER /mountpoint
[18:32] <tripelb> pavlos: yes one long line. I see it.
[18:33] <pavlos> tripelb: should look like, /dev/sda7 on /mountpoint type ext4 (rw,
[18:34] <tripelb> Ben64: silly me I typed mountpoint. I must read the output now.
[18:36] <tripelb> Ok ben64 I don't know what to type in for mountpoint.  That whole long thing beginning with/run/media/coriander/35fa0772-ecbd-4lf1......
[18:36] <Ben64> tripelb: probably
[18:37] <tripelb> pavlos: looks like the above. There is no word mountpoint in the grep output ..it goes /dev/sda7 on /run/.......
[18:38] <tripelb> Be64 then is the command sudo chown $USER / /run.....   Like that?
[18:38] <pavlos> tripelb: the word mountpoint is an example, the actual mountpoint is /run/media/... (no idea why it mounts in /run
[18:39] <Ben64> tripelb: not / /run
[18:39] <tripelb> Ok /begins the mountpoint
[18:40] <pavlos> tripelb: can you give the output of, df -T | nc termbin.com 9999
[18:41] <tripelb> Ok pavlos Ben64  it worked. No output from the chown .. I assume success (goes to look up the command.
[18:43] <tripelb> Yes. The copy works. I learned .. mountpoint and chown. (And fedora isn't better except that it knows my wifi card without an Ethernet hookup. When I install 16.04 I will need ethernet.)
[18:43] <tripelb> Pavos ben64 thanks
[18:44] <pavlos> tripelb: np, good luck
[18:44] <tripelb> And reminded self of df -h
[18:44] <tripelb> Bye
[18:55] <theseb> so Windows 10 has Ubuntu BUILT IN? and you can install apt packages!?!?1 anyone tried that?
[18:55] <oerheks> !ubuwin
[18:55] <oerheks> no, not 'build-in'
[18:56] <oerheks> but it is out-of-beta indeed,. https://blogs.msdn.microsoft.com/commandline/2017/07/28/windows-subsystem-for-linux-out-of-beta/
[18:57] <theseb> oerheks: if it works perfectly then there shouldn't be any issues right? should be just like old school ubuntu?
[18:57] <oerheks> yes, some even run services, or a complete desktop on it
[18:59] <theseb> oerheks: amazing..the era of precarious dual-boots is over
[18:59] <oerheks> containers, snap & flatpack, docker, kvm, maas
[19:00] <oerheks> there are reasons not to trust hardware, i guess.
[19:01] <theseb> dockers is the one i always see people mentioning and using
[19:02] <oerheks> well, snap is a revolution too, now development will easily create a linux version, this is fresh too, exchange and agenda https://insights.ubuntu.com/2017/07/18/hiri-the-desktop-snap-that-lets-you-use-microsoft-exchange-on-linux/
[19:02] <oerheks> works pretty impressive, imho
[19:02] <ikonia> why is snap the key to that
[19:03] <ikonia> why wouldn't hiri delivered by a normal package be just as effective ?
[19:03] <oerheks> no more rpm or deb choise, or 2 teams to provide those
[19:03] <ikonia> snaps are not universal
[19:03] <ikonia> redhat is using a different tool for it's selfcontained delivery
[19:04] <oerheks> oh, fedora got snapd in its repos
[19:04] <ikonia> yup, but it's not the default, it's there as an option
[19:04] <ikonia> in the same way ubuntu has rpm in it's repo
[19:04] <oerheks> oke, that is true.
[19:04] <ikonia> no-one in their right mind would use it though
[19:05] <[n0mad]> i don't like that snaps show as disks
[19:05] <oerheks> eh, no, not like alien, is it?
[19:05] <ikonia> oerheks: no
[19:05] <oerheks> [n0mad], that is a good point, confusing users.
[19:07] <oerheks> brb
[19:17] <pmitros> I am running Ubuntu (without the default window manager; just the base OS). I want to look at a directory of images, and rotate the ones which were taken portrait or upside down. gthumb crashes incessently. What's the preferred tool to do this these days?
[19:17] <pmitros> I'd like to do it in place (destructively for the original images)
[19:20] <YankDownUnder> "without the default window manager" - um...in order to have a graphical display, one WOULD be using some type of window manager...which would be...?
[19:20] <pmitros> xmonad.
[19:21] <Guy1524> hey guys, I am running Ubuntu 16.04, and I would like to use my wiiwheel to control Euro Truck Simulator run through wine, any ideas?
[19:21] <pmitros> But that's hardly relevant. I'd presume any image app would work with any window manager.
[19:22] <YankDownUnder> pmitros, That's not what I was getting at...but I digress...what are you using for file management...?
[19:22] <pmitros> yankdownunder: File management? xterm. Occasionally python if I need to process many files.
[19:23] <YankDownUnder> pmitros, "Eye of Mate" works nicely...at least here...when I'm using WindowMaker and Gnome3 and XFce (and olvwm)
[19:24] <[n0mad]> imagick?
[19:25] <minimec> pmitros: There is a console tool called 'convert'. It is part of the imagemagick package --> https://www.imagemagick.org/script/convert.php
[19:25] <pmitros> I just installed it. Thank you. It does seem slightly too smart -- the images are showing in correct orientation, so I presume there's some kind of metadata embedded (exif or similar), and it is rotating when displaying.
[19:26] <pmitros> I think convert + exiv2 might be the way to go. Although that seem cumbersome.
[19:27] <pmitros> Cumbersome for a few dozen images at a time, but it ought to work.
[19:27] <pmitros> exiftran claims to do it.
[19:28] <pmitros> Yup. exiftran did it! Thanks all!
[19:30] <fuser> What's the name of that application that dims the screen at night?
[19:30] <fuser> or makes it more orange, for your brain
[19:31] <glitsj16> redshift?
[19:31] <fuser> yeah thanks
[20:09] <Guy1524> I am getting an error when trying to install a package that makes absolutely no sense, as shown by the apt show command right under it: http://paste.ubuntu.com/25199846/
[20:09] <Guy1524> wtf is going wrong
[20:10] <Guy1524> it says i need >= 1.17 of the package and I have 1.18
[20:14] <Poster> something might be wrong with the xserver-xorg-core package, can you try to run "apt-mark showhold" and paste the output?
[20:14] <Poster> oops =[
[20:19] <Bashing-om> Guytest_: I too am suspecting a packaging error . ' apt depends  xserver-xorg-input-xwiimote ' points to " Depends: xserver-xorg-core (>= 2:1.17.99.902)" while 'apt list xserver-xorg-core" has the installed version " xserver-xorg-core/xenial-updates,xenial-security,now 2:1.18.4-0ubuntu0.3 amd64 " . Am I cross eyed ?
[21:02] <Sbur3> Eric Is this the same Eric who gave me the rsync command?  It's still running ... hasn't completed yet
[21:07] <fordunklad> How do I force packages to uninstall when there are broken pacakges?
[21:22] <pavlos> fordunklad: can you fix broken with install -f flag or synaptic?
[21:29] <fordunklad> pavlos: No. There isn't enough space. Disk is full of about 2 dozen old kernels
[21:29] <fordunklad> I'd like to remove them but I still the error
[21:29] <pavlos> fordunklad: take a look at /boot and remove old kernels
[21:30] <fordunklad> That's what I'm trying to do
[21:30] <fordunklad> How do you force remove?
[21:31] <pavlos> fordunklad: with sudo you can remove old kernels in /boot, then dpkg --purge somekernel (get a list with dpkg -l | grep kernel-image
[21:32] <pavlos> fordunklad: that's, dpkg -l | grep linux-image
[21:33] <Bashing-om> fordunklad: Does the command ' sudo apt autoremove ' fail ?
[21:33] <fordunklad> yes
[21:34] <Bashing-om> fordunklad: then as pavlos advises . it is dpkg to the rescue :)
[21:34] <Bashing-om> fordunklad: ' uname -r ' do not mess wth this kernel !
[21:34] <fordunklad> thanks, looks like dpkg --purge is working
[21:41] <pavlos> fordunklad: if you delete a couple kernel, autoremove should work b/c it got some space
[21:41] <pavlos> fordunklad: they should be gone from /boot
[21:44] <rysiek|pl> hey
[21:44] <rysiek|pl> anyone uses a thinkpad t470?
[21:44] <rysiek|pl> apparently Ubuntu doesn't see my second battery and I am wondering if this is a problem with ubuntu, or with my t470
[22:08] <totallyserious> https://gist.github.com/vincentwhales/72f565e6e4c85cf70f1d17e813d9c9c6 hey guys, anyone here know why I have a mysterious process that is taking up all my CPU?
[22:10] <jdfish> totallyserious: ´# lsof -p 3423 | grep cwd´
[22:11] <jdfish> totallyserious: see what that turns up. that gives you the current working directory of a process
[22:11] <jdfish> the number there is the PID
[22:14] <totallyserious> jdfish I see something like this xvglcnngr 21144 root  cwd    DIR    8,0     4096     2 /
[22:16] <totallyserious> I see it's /
[22:16] <jdfish> totallyserious: yeah, hmmmmm
[22:17] <navdeepsingh13> How to point to binary file built by cmake & make under some directory during snap build process ??
[22:18] <navdeepsingh13> like /build_appname/parts/appname/install/bin/appname
[22:48] <foozb12> Hi. I use a self-compiled version of emacs (emacs 25.1.11). On Ubuntu 16.04, I think because of some strange numbering, software updating & everytime I run apt-get, it will attempt to 'upgrade' my emacs 25 to the repo's emacs 24
[22:49] <foozb12> What I've done is put a hold on the emacs 24 package
[22:50] <foozb12> However this comes up everytime I use apt-get (like: error configuring emacs24 etc). Is there a way to let apt-get know that I dont want it touched at all?
[22:52] <foozb12> I don't understand why it's a problem in the 1st place. Ubuntu sees I have 25.1.11 - and shows that its the 'latest' available on my system. But remove emacs package from hold, and everytime it will try to 'updat'
[23:14] <EldritchGuardian> anyone good with wine?
[23:18] <Duckle> Hey there ubuntu. So I followed a writeup on how to connect an iphone 7 (well any iphone running iOS 10+) to my ubuntu laptop and get the photos/videos off of it
[23:18] <Duckle> works great, so I took a little script from that gist writeup, and shaved it down a bit to what I needed. It also works fine, if I execute it myself
[23:18] <Duckle> However I'm running into problems, when trying to get udev to run it when the iphone is plugged in
[23:19] <Exterminador> hello guys. there's someone that keeps saying that will be released 'Ubuntu 18.04 LTS'. truth or myth?
[23:20] <geirha> in month 04 of year (20)18, 18.04 will be released, yes, and it will most likely be an LTS release
[23:20] <Duckle> Here's the udev rule and the script: https://gist.github.com/dumle29/a351c0b3c82b5f367ead0cb14325ce76
[23:20] <Duckle> again, if I run the script myself it works fine
[23:22] <Exterminador> so, each LTS is released each 2 years
[23:23] <geirha> 6.06 (was supposed to be 6.04, but got delayed two months), 8.04, 10.04, 12.04, 14.04 and 16.04 were LTS releases
[23:23] <geirha> So you can probably see a pattern
[23:24] <glitsj16> Duckle: Have you tried using 'sudo -u <your-user>' for the RUN+= part of the udev rule yet? Or do it inside the referenced script, which should get you the same result
[23:25] <Exterminador> geirha: thanks. never looked into that tbh
[23:25] <Exterminador> :x
[23:25] <Duckle> Nope, I'll try that glitsj16
[23:25] <EldritchGuardian> im having problems with Dolphin-emu in wine, my game starts up and im getting 59 fps but as soon as I hit enter it crashes the game, all the games start screen animations are moving and everything
[23:25] <Exterminador> but now that you talked, makes sense
[23:29] <iPat8> Could anyone here help me with Ubuntu Landscape?
[23:30] <Duckle> glitsj16: Didn't fix it :/
[23:33] <glitsj16> Duckle: I wasn't all too clear now I read back what I said. What did you try exactly? I wanted to say, try 'RUN+="/usr/bin/sudo -u mikkel /home/mikkel/usr/bin/ios_script mount"..
[23:33] <Duckle> i didn't give the full path to sudo, I'll try that
[23:37] <Duckle> glitsj16: I changed the script to env > /home/mikkel/envdump/envdump.txt
[23:37] <Duckle> no such file shows up
[23:39] <glitsj16> Duckle: while keeping your original udev rule?
[23:39] <Duckle> RUN '/usr/bin/sudo -u mikkel /home/mikkel/usr/bin/ios_mount' /etc/udev/rules.d/60-ios.rules:1
[23:39] <Duckle> yeah
[23:39] <Duckle> that's what udevadm test gives me
[23:39] <Duckle> well one of the many lines
[23:40] <Duckle> maybe udev doesn't obey shebangs?
[23:40] <Duckle> nope, no that either
[23:40] <Duckle> hmm
[23:40] <glitsj16> Duckle: i don't think it does actually, but as you get by now, my udev-fu is limited
[23:41] <Duckle> heh so is mine :P
[23:42] <Duckle> ok, so journalctl -f is giving me some more info
[23:51] <Duckle> Where would I got to figure out what " systemd-udevd[32007]: Process '/usr/bin/sudo -u mikkel /bin/sh /home/mikkel/usr/bin/ios_mount' failed with exit code 2."  means?
[23:51] <Duckle> so it's udev, and it's failing to run my script. It's exiting with code 2
[23:55] <Duckle> Okay so exit code 2 should mean: Misuse of shell builtins (according to Bash documentation)
[23:57] <Dirkson> Hey all. I'd really like to use amdgpu instead of radeon, but no matter which X11 files I edit, and no matter how hard I blacklist 'radeon' as a kernel module, it still seems to take precedence. What do I need to do to switch?
[23:58] <Dirkson> Using Ubuntu 17.04 if it makes a difference.