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xubuntu17dlooking for touchpad help00:48
xubuntu17dI'm not really sure how this works, so I'll just throw my question out and see what happens. Apologies if that seems rude.01:42
xubuntu17dI'm running Xubuntu 16.04 on a Dell Inspiron 15. When I change the touchpad to left-handed in Settings, pointer movement becomes erratic and the left button still acts as a left-click. All I want is to configure the touchpad - or clickpad, to be precise - to accept the right button area as the primary button and the left one as the secondary button, with no loss of functionality in pointer movement or dragging or highlighting. I01:43
xubuntu17ding "xinput set-button-map 14 3 2 1", but the result is that there is only one point on each button that works, Firefox doesn't recognize the change at all, and the pointer starts to lag. Any advice?01:44
Unit193http://docs.xfce.org/xfce/xfce4-settings/mouse#buttons_and_feedback in theory that should be it.01:46
xubuntu17dThank you01:50
Unit193Doesn't really help you much if you've already been in the mouse settings and synaptics.01:51
Unit193Also no, just asking is perfectly fine, desired even.01:51
xubuntu17dUnfortunately, the link was not as helpful as I had hoped. Perhaps I will have to learn to use the touchpad right-handed after all... Must leave for appointment, but many thanks for your kindness.02:00
Unit193xubuntu17d: Take a look through https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Touchpad_Synaptics too.02:04
Unit193Most of that should for the most part apply as well.02:04
xubuntu17dThank you. I will look into it when I get back.02:06
RoadRunnerWhat  are Xubuntu command equivalents to Windows: ipconfig/release and ipconfig/renew (to release and renew DHCP lease when on a dynamic DHCP)?02:56
bazhangifconfig was there, it's simply ip now02:57
flocculantRoadRunner: for something as basic - don't look for Xubuntu, we'll share that deep level with Ubuntu02:58
RoadRunnerflocculant: sorry for a newbie question but if you could share the answer with me, you'd save me the time of asking the same question on Ubuntu's channel03:04
flocculantRoadRunner: sorry - bazhang did that :) I was putting out in channel that at that level xubuntu/k/l/buntu generally03:06
RoadRunnerflocculant: I mean what is the correct syntax for these commands in terminal...?03:07
flocculantoic03:08
flocculantI dno't know tbh - ask bazhang, netwrok just works for me03:08
RoadRunnerbazhang: :) what is the correct syntax for these commands in terminal?03:10
bazhangRoadRunner, you want to renew a lease or what, bring the nic up/down03:12
flocculantbazhang: thanks :)03:12
bazhang:)03:12
RoadRunnerbazhang: when having problems with a gateway or switching btw static and dynamic DHCP want to be able to release and renew a DHCP lease without rebooting the machine03:15
bazhangRoadRunner, I mostly did sudo dhclient eth0/wlan0 or whatever the name03:16
bazhangRoadRunner, since systemd, those are like enps0 and so on03:17
bazhangRoadRunner, what does ifconfig -a in the terminal say, what version of buntu is this03:17
RoadRunnerI am running 16.0403:18
lamduhWhen I click "install xubuntu" when booting from my usb It goes to a black screen and I cant see anything. Any ideas?03:18
bazhangso what's it show03:18
bazhang!nomodeset | lamduh03:19
ubottulamduh: A common kernel (boot)parameter is nomodeset, which is needed for some graphic cards that otherwise boot into a black screen or show corrupted splash screen. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132 on how to use this parameter03:19
flocculantbazhang: thanks - was typing that out  ;)03:19
bazhangnp!03:19
bazhangRoadRunner, you doin this or not03:20
RoadRunnerbazhang: said no such command03:21
Unit193`ip addr`03:21
bazhangRoadRunner, what was the exact command you used03:21
Unit193bazhang: 'ifconfig' isn't seeded anymore, iirc.  so `ip addr` is the "new" `ifconfig`03:22
bazhangyep03:22
bazhangI tried it though not too long ago03:22
bazhangthere is/was a crossover period of time when both worked03:23
bazhangRoadRunner, so try what Unit193 just said03:23
bazhangRoadRunner, if I'm not around , others may be, and I will be back later if need be03:24
lamduhdoes the "nomodeset" go after the 3 dashes in the emacs editor03:24
lamduh?03:24
bazhanglamduh, on grub?03:24
flocculantlamduh: emacs?03:24
lamduhyeah03:25
lamduhgrub03:25
bazhanglamduh, did you fully read the actual link?03:25
lamduh"and press END keys to position your cursor at the end of the that line usually ending with “quiet splash”.03:25
lamduhNow you can type in additional kernel options like nomodeset (please dont make the same typing error I made for this screenshot  ):03:25
lamduh"03:25
lamduhthe screenshot is broken03:25
flocculantjust boot the image then hit any key and have nomodeset as paramter - F4 I think03:25
flocculantunless uefi then not sure - never done that myself03:26
bazhangno idea how emacs got into all this03:26
RoadRunnerbazhang: just tried 'ip addr' it is in the ball park, but I still don't see how to release or renew a lease with it03:26
lamduhthe grub menu says "minimal emacs editor with auto completion"03:27
lamduhthe nomodeset parameter comes before the three dashes03:27
lamduhi got it thanks03:27
RoadRunnerUnit193: do you know the exact syntax to release and renew a dhcp lease?03:28
Unit193I just do the ol' fidown eth0;ifup eth0 on Debian, Ubuntu...Well restarting nm is easy.03:29
Unit193ifdown*03:29
RoadRunnerUnit193: sorry, you are talking to a newbie :) could explain that a bit more?03:30
Unit193Well...GUI, so easy enough to just reconnect, click the little network icon and then on the connection.03:32
RoadRunnerUnit193: through gui, resetting dhcp to automatic doesn't take effect right away, for some reason.  If check connection properties it still shows static data even after the change03:34
Unit193So resetting and then reconnecting to the network that you just changed doesn't work, RoadRunner?03:39
RoadRunnerUnit193: correct03:40
RoadRunnerI am now talking to you from a Win machine, Xubuntu can't connect now03:41
RoadRunnerUnit193: could you please explain the details of the syntax of commands you mentioned earlier?03:49
RoadRunneras I am experimenting with my gateways, I'll lose connection, I'll come back later and hopefully get an answer to my command syntax question04:06
lamduhnomodeset works for when I install xubuntu but not when I try to launch after installation :(04:28
Truthhey all08:44
Truthso i need some help08:44
Truthwhich server would be better for running xubutnu on top of ubuntu server?08:45
Truthhp ML370 G408:45
Truthor08:45
Truthhp proliant DL380 G508:45
moetunesTruth:  you'd install xubuntu-desktop on the server install and the hardware doesn't really matter for that11:25
bekksTruth: besides the fact that those servers are most likely EOSL already, it doesnt really matter for xubuntu.11:46
ArszillaCan someone help me?12:11
ArszillaIs it possible to install gnome tweaks to xubuntu?12:11
ArszillaAnd how can I set my xubuntu to dark theme12:12
Arszillalike in GNOME12:12
diogenes_Arszilla, there's dark theme available12:13
ArszillaWhere12:13
ArszillaI need it12:14
Arszillathis shit is too bright for me yo12:14
Arszillaalso is there something like Ubuntu Software Store?12:14
Arszillafound it12:14
Arszillaalso any fast way to go to the desktop?12:15
diogenes_Arszilla, look in appearence12:16
Arszillafor what?12:16
diogenes_xfce-dusk12:17
Arszilla?12:17
diogenes_did you look in appearence? theme name is xfce-dusk12:17
ArszillaI dont want a theme12:17
ArszillaI want to use numix12:17
Arszillaa sec12:17
diogenes_numix is a theme also12:18
ArszillaI dont see that12:19
Arszilla@diogenes12:19
diogenes_wait brb12:19
diogenes_Arszilla, you see my dark themes? http://i.imgur.com/xovWPKw.png12:23
Arszillaa sec12:24
Arszillagotta add my dns12:24
Arszillato see imgur12:24
Arszillacause its bannedin turkey12:25
diogenes_lol12:25
ArszillaYep12:25
Arszillawelcome to dictatorship12:25
diogenes_get outta there12:25
ArszillaI would if I could12:25
Arszillawhich tab do I add the google dns at12:25
Arszillai always forget12:25
ArszillaIPv4 or 6?12:25
diogenes_no clue v4 maybe12:26
Arszillaalso12:26
Arszillais it possible to add gnome tweaks12:26
Arszillato xubuntu12:26
diogenes_what for?12:26
Arszilladash to dock12:27
ArszillaI need that12:27
diogenes_there's dash for xfce12:27
Arszillai dont like xubuntu's thing12:27
Arszillabut gnome is a bit laggy on my laptop12:27
Arszillawhere can I get it?12:27
diogenes_why you need it?12:27
Arszilladash to dock?12:28
Arszillacause I do12:28
Arszillato access my favourites12:28
Arszillajust dont question pls :D12:28
knomediogenes_, please don't start arguing if somebody needs something or not12:28
knomeArszilla, also, please refrain from using enter as punctuation12:28
Arszillaknome its an old habit12:28
diogenes_knome, am I arguing? I try to figure out the goal in order to offer alternatives12:29
Arszillaand old habits die hard...12:29
Arszillaa sec then diogenes_12:29
ArszillaI need it to access my favourites etc fast, like in GNOME. Dont like to enter the top right menu12:30
Arszillaalso why cant I order the windows that I have, like Firefox, Software etc. I want to move software in fromt of firefox for example12:31
Arszillabrb12:31
Arszillatest12:31
Arszillaif you can read me say heyo12:31
diogenes_Arszilla, we can't have all we want12:32
diogenes_we have to do compromises12:32
Arszilla...12:32
Arszillayou said there was dash to dock for xubuntu12:32
diogenes_yes12:32
Arszillathen why cant I have it lmap12:32
diogenes_because you said you don't like it12:33
Arszilla?12:33
Arszillawhen did I say that12:33
ArszillaI dont like xubuntus current state12:33
Arszillalike to click on that mouse icon12:33
Arszillathats why I need dash to dock12:33
Arszillathats what I meant12:33
diogenes_Arszilla, and I want to be the Prince of Persia but <I can't12:34
Arszilla...12:34
Arszillayou aint helpin12:34
diogenes_I gave you alternatives12:35
Arszillayou didnt give jackshit if I am hnest12:35
knomeArszilla, please remember this is a family-friendly channel12:35
knomediogenes_, if the discussion doesn't seem to lead nowhere, then maybe take a step back12:35
diogenes_yeah I think he doesn't know what he wants12:36
Arszillasorry knome12:36
Arszillai.imgur.com/0Iyu5Iu.png12:37
Arszillahttps://i.imgur.com/0Iyu5Iu.png12:37
Arszillawhy is my installed messages like thsi?12:37
knomewhich xubuntu version are you using12:38
Arszilla16.04.212:38
knomehave you installed a lot of custom software or is this a clean install?12:40
Arszillai installed numix12:41
Arszillathats it12:42
Arszillanow I installed chromium, atom editor, discord, steam, gimp12:42
knomedo the notifications look the same if you chang the theme to greybird?12:42
Arszillauhm I can try12:42
Arszillalet me install vlc12:42
Arszillaknome is it possible to install gnome tweaks to xubuntu12:44
Arszillafrom Gnome Extensions12:44
knomei don't know what it does, but i'm not completely sure if changing settings in it would make a difference in xfce - maybe, maybe not12:45
knomemaybe tell us what kind of modifications you'd like to do and we can see if you can do them with the native xfce tools12:45
Arszillaagain for the millionth time12:45
Arszillahttps://extensions.gnome.org/extension/307/dash-to-dock/12:45
Arszillatrying to get this replicated or installed in xubuntu 16.04.212:45
knomethat has nothing to do with gnome tweaks12:45
Arszillaits in extensions.gnome...12:46
knomeso it's a gnome shell extension... no, you can't have it in xfce unless you install gnome shell, which is almost the same as installing gnome12:47
knomei'm pretty sure there are similar docks that work with xfce - i don't use any so i have no idea what they would be12:47
Arszillaany way to order my tabs in the topbar?12:47
ArszillaI dont want chromium away in the right side, I want to move i to the eflt12:48
Arszillaleft*12:48
knomeyou can change the window buttons panel applet options - change the sorting to "none, allow drag-and-drop"12:48
Arszillaand jesus, the text in chromium is big as hell12:48
knomeArszilla, please, this is a family-friendly channel12:49
knomethis is the last time i'm reminding you friendly about it12:49
Arszillawhere is that in settings?12:50
knomeunder panel, tab items, then find "window buttons" (or right-click the window button applet in the panel)12:50
Arszillathanks12:52
Arszillawaiting for vlc to finish12:52
Arszillaso I can see the notification12:52
Arszillaknome you could say I am trying to replicate this12:53
Arszillahttps://www.reddit.com/r/unixporn/comments/5q0lei/xfce4_macos_esque/12:53
knomeok, then you'll want to install the "plank" dock12:54
Arszillais that the best one?12:54
knomei don't know - as i said i don't use one12:54
Arszillaalso12:54
knomebut the tutorial you are following uses that12:55
knomeso maybe you'll want that12:55
Arszillais there a dark mode in xubuntu12:55
knomewhat do you mean by "dark mode"? a dark theme?12:55
Arszillasorta12:55
Arszillalike file manager etc windows are dark12:55
knomethere are dark themes for xubuntu12:55
Arszillaone bug I also found12:56
Arszillahttp://imgur.com/a/TbhdS12:56
Arszillawhy is my mouse icon like this12:57
Arszillafrom time to time12:57
knomei don't see a mouse icon12:57
Arszillathe black box is12:57
Arszillaalso12:57
Arszillahttps://http://i.imgur.com/rGjDCMz.png12:58
Arszillahttp://i.imgur.com/rGjDCMz.png12:58
Arszillastill didnt fix12:58
knomewhich package manager software are you using to install packages?12:59
Arszillanone12:59
Arszillaused terminal to install numix12:59
Arszillathats all12:59
knomewhat did you use to install vlc then?12:59
Arszillathen I had downloaded steam.deb etc; installed em normally12:59
Arszillasoftware thingy12:59
Arszillait was pinned in my favourites so...13:00
knomeok, maybe it's a bug in (gnome) software13:00
Arszillalike Ubuntu Software Center13:00
Arszillahow can I fix it?13:00
knomewell, look in the source code etc...13:00
knomei don't use gnome software either and i haven't heard from this bug or a workaround for it13:01
Arszillalet me see if I can get this workin13:01
TheWildhello20:48
TheWildwhy is Blender's interface glitching so badly on Xubuntu?20:49
a27_hi i cant see panel in live usb22:19

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