[00:48] <xubuntu17d> looking for touchpad help
[01:42] <xubuntu17d> I'm not really sure how this works, so I'll just throw my question out and see what happens. Apologies if that seems rude.
[01:43] <xubuntu17d> I'm running Xubuntu 16.04 on a Dell Inspiron 15. When I change the touchpad to left-handed in Settings, pointer movement becomes erratic and the left button still acts as a left-click. All I want is to configure the touchpad - or clickpad, to be precise - to accept the right button area as the primary button and the left one as the secondary button, with no loss of functionality in pointer movement or dragging or highlighting. I
[01:44] <xubuntu17d> ing "xinput set-button-map 14 3 2 1", but the result is that there is only one point on each button that works, Firefox doesn't recognize the change at all, and the pointer starts to lag. Any advice?
[01:46] <Unit193> http://docs.xfce.org/xfce/xfce4-settings/mouse#buttons_and_feedback in theory that should be it.
[01:50] <xubuntu17d> Thank you
[01:51] <Unit193> Doesn't really help you much if you've already been in the mouse settings and synaptics.
[01:51] <Unit193> Also no, just asking is perfectly fine, desired even.
[02:00] <xubuntu17d> Unfortunately, the link was not as helpful as I had hoped. Perhaps I will have to learn to use the touchpad right-handed after all... Must leave for appointment, but many thanks for your kindness.
[02:04] <Unit193> xubuntu17d: Take a look through https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Touchpad_Synaptics too.
[02:04] <Unit193> Most of that should for the most part apply as well.
[02:06] <xubuntu17d> Thank you. I will look into it when I get back.
[02:56] <RoadRunner> What  are Xubuntu command equivalents to Windows: ipconfig/release and ipconfig/renew (to release and renew DHCP lease when on a dynamic DHCP)?
[02:57] <bazhang> ifconfig was there, it's simply ip now
[02:58] <flocculant> RoadRunner: for something as basic - don't look for Xubuntu, we'll share that deep level with Ubuntu
[03:04] <RoadRunner> flocculant: sorry for a newbie question but if you could share the answer with me, you'd save me the time of asking the same question on Ubuntu's channel
[03:06] <flocculant> RoadRunner: sorry - bazhang did that :) I was putting out in channel that at that level xubuntu/k/l/buntu generally
[03:07] <RoadRunner> flocculant: I mean what is the correct syntax for these commands in terminal...?
[03:08] <flocculant> oic
[03:08] <flocculant> I dno't know tbh - ask bazhang, netwrok just works for me
[03:10] <RoadRunner> bazhang: :) what is the correct syntax for these commands in terminal?
[03:12] <bazhang> RoadRunner, you want to renew a lease or what, bring the nic up/down
[03:12] <flocculant> bazhang: thanks :)
[03:12] <bazhang> :)
[03:15] <RoadRunner> bazhang: when having problems with a gateway or switching btw static and dynamic DHCP want to be able to release and renew a DHCP lease without rebooting the machine
[03:16] <bazhang> RoadRunner, I mostly did sudo dhclient eth0/wlan0 or whatever the name
[03:17] <bazhang> RoadRunner, since systemd, those are like enps0 and so on
[03:17] <bazhang> RoadRunner, what does ifconfig -a in the terminal say, what version of buntu is this
[03:18] <RoadRunner> I am running 16.04
[03:18] <lamduh> When I click "install xubuntu" when booting from my usb It goes to a black screen and I cant see anything. Any ideas?
[03:18] <bazhang> so what's it show
[03:19] <bazhang> !nomodeset | lamduh
[03:19] <flocculant> bazhang: thanks - was typing that out  ;)
[03:19] <bazhang> np!
[03:20] <bazhang> RoadRunner, you doin this or not
[03:21] <RoadRunner> bazhang: said no such command
[03:21] <Unit193> `ip addr`
[03:21] <bazhang> RoadRunner, what was the exact command you used
[03:22] <Unit193> bazhang: 'ifconfig' isn't seeded anymore, iirc.  so `ip addr` is the "new" `ifconfig`
[03:22] <bazhang> yep
[03:22] <bazhang> I tried it though not too long ago
[03:23] <bazhang> there is/was a crossover period of time when both worked
[03:23] <bazhang> RoadRunner, so try what Unit193 just said
[03:24] <bazhang> RoadRunner, if I'm not around , others may be, and I will be back later if need be
[03:24] <lamduh> does the "nomodeset" go after the 3 dashes in the emacs editor
[03:24] <lamduh> ?
[03:24] <bazhang> lamduh, on grub?
[03:24] <flocculant> lamduh: emacs?
[03:25] <lamduh> yeah
[03:25] <lamduh> grub
[03:25] <bazhang> lamduh, did you fully read the actual link?
[03:25] <lamduh> "and press END keys to position your cursor at the end of the that line usually ending with “quiet splash”.
[03:25] <lamduh> Now you can type in additional kernel options like nomodeset (please dont make the same typing error I made for this screenshot  ):
[03:25] <lamduh> "
[03:25] <lamduh> the screenshot is broken
[03:25] <flocculant> just boot the image then hit any key and have nomodeset as paramter - F4 I think
[03:26] <flocculant> unless uefi then not sure - never done that myself
[03:26] <bazhang> no idea how emacs got into all this
[03:26] <RoadRunner> bazhang: just tried 'ip addr' it is in the ball park, but I still don't see how to release or renew a lease with it
[03:27] <lamduh> the grub menu says "minimal emacs editor with auto completion"
[03:27] <lamduh> the nomodeset parameter comes before the three dashes
[03:27] <lamduh> i got it thanks
[03:28] <RoadRunner> Unit193: do you know the exact syntax to release and renew a dhcp lease?
[03:29] <Unit193> I just do the ol' fidown eth0;ifup eth0 on Debian, Ubuntu...Well restarting nm is easy.
[03:29] <Unit193> ifdown*
[03:30] <RoadRunner> Unit193: sorry, you are talking to a newbie :) could explain that a bit more?
[03:32] <Unit193> Well...GUI, so easy enough to just reconnect, click the little network icon and then on the connection.
[03:34] <RoadRunner> Unit193: through gui, resetting dhcp to automatic doesn't take effect right away, for some reason.  If check connection properties it still shows static data even after the change
[03:39] <Unit193> So resetting and then reconnecting to the network that you just changed doesn't work, RoadRunner?
[03:40] <RoadRunner> Unit193: correct
[03:41] <RoadRunner> I am now talking to you from a Win machine, Xubuntu can't connect now
[03:49] <RoadRunner> Unit193: could you please explain the details of the syntax of commands you mentioned earlier?
[04:06] <RoadRunner> as I am experimenting with my gateways, I'll lose connection, I'll come back later and hopefully get an answer to my command syntax question
[04:28] <lamduh> nomodeset works for when I install xubuntu but not when I try to launch after installation :(
[08:44] <Truth> hey all
[08:44] <Truth> so i need some help
[08:45] <Truth> which server would be better for running xubutnu on top of ubuntu server?
[08:45] <Truth> hp ML370 G4
[08:45] <Truth> or
[08:45] <Truth> hp proliant DL380 G5
[11:25] <moetunes> Truth:  you'd install xubuntu-desktop on the server install and the hardware doesn't really matter for that
[11:46] <bekks> Truth: besides the fact that those servers are most likely EOSL already, it doesnt really matter for xubuntu.
[12:11] <Arszilla> Can someone help me?
[12:11] <Arszilla> Is it possible to install gnome tweaks to xubuntu?
[12:12] <Arszilla> And how can I set my xubuntu to dark theme
[12:12] <Arszilla> like in GNOME
[12:13] <diogenes_> Arszilla, there's dark theme available
[12:13] <Arszilla> Where
[12:14] <Arszilla> I need it
[12:14] <Arszilla> this shit is too bright for me yo
[12:14] <Arszilla> also is there something like Ubuntu Software Store?
[12:14] <Arszilla> found it
[12:15] <Arszilla> also any fast way to go to the desktop?
[12:16] <diogenes_> Arszilla, look in appearence
[12:16] <Arszilla> for what?
[12:17] <diogenes_> xfce-dusk
[12:17] <Arszilla> ?
[12:17] <diogenes_> did you look in appearence? theme name is xfce-dusk
[12:17] <Arszilla> I dont want a theme
[12:17] <Arszilla> I want to use numix
[12:17] <Arszilla> a sec
[12:18] <diogenes_> numix is a theme also
[12:19] <Arszilla> I dont see that
[12:19] <Arszilla> @diogenes
[12:19] <diogenes_> wait brb
[12:23] <diogenes_> Arszilla, you see my dark themes? http://i.imgur.com/xovWPKw.png
[12:24] <Arszilla> a sec
[12:24] <Arszilla> gotta add my dns
[12:24] <Arszilla> to see imgur
[12:25] <Arszilla> cause its bannedin turkey
[12:25] <diogenes_> lol
[12:25] <Arszilla> Yep
[12:25] <Arszilla> welcome to dictatorship
[12:25] <diogenes_> get outta there
[12:25] <Arszilla> I would if I could
[12:25] <Arszilla> which tab do I add the google dns at
[12:25] <Arszilla> i always forget
[12:25] <Arszilla> IPv4 or 6?
[12:26] <diogenes_> no clue v4 maybe
[12:26] <Arszilla> also
[12:26] <Arszilla> is it possible to add gnome tweaks
[12:26] <Arszilla> to xubuntu
[12:26] <diogenes_> what for?
[12:27] <Arszilla> dash to dock
[12:27] <Arszilla> I need that
[12:27] <diogenes_> there's dash for xfce
[12:27] <Arszilla> i dont like xubuntu's thing
[12:27] <Arszilla> but gnome is a bit laggy on my laptop
[12:27] <Arszilla> where can I get it?
[12:27] <diogenes_> why you need it?
[12:28] <Arszilla> dash to dock?
[12:28] <Arszilla> cause I do
[12:28] <Arszilla> to access my favourites
[12:28] <Arszilla> just dont question pls :D
[12:28] <knome> diogenes_, please don't start arguing if somebody needs something or not
[12:28] <knome> Arszilla, also, please refrain from using enter as punctuation
[12:28] <Arszilla> knome its an old habit
[12:29] <diogenes_> knome, am I arguing? I try to figure out the goal in order to offer alternatives
[12:29] <Arszilla> and old habits die hard...
[12:29] <Arszilla> a sec then diogenes_
[12:30] <Arszilla> I need it to access my favourites etc fast, like in GNOME. Dont like to enter the top right menu
[12:31] <Arszilla> also why cant I order the windows that I have, like Firefox, Software etc. I want to move software in fromt of firefox for example
[12:31] <Arszilla> brb
[12:31] <Arszilla> test
[12:31] <Arszilla> if you can read me say heyo
[12:32] <diogenes_> Arszilla, we can't have all we want
[12:32] <diogenes_> we have to do compromises
[12:32] <Arszilla> ...
[12:32] <Arszilla> you said there was dash to dock for xubuntu
[12:32] <diogenes_> yes
[12:32] <Arszilla> then why cant I have it lmap
[12:33] <diogenes_> because you said you don't like it
[12:33] <Arszilla> ?
[12:33] <Arszilla> when did I say that
[12:33] <Arszilla> I dont like xubuntus current state
[12:33] <Arszilla> like to click on that mouse icon
[12:33] <Arszilla> thats why I need dash to dock
[12:33] <Arszilla> thats what I meant
[12:34] <diogenes_> Arszilla, and I want to be the Prince of Persia but <I can't
[12:34] <Arszilla> ...
[12:34] <Arszilla> you aint helpin
[12:35] <diogenes_> I gave you alternatives
[12:35] <Arszilla> you didnt give jackshit if I am hnest
[12:35] <knome> Arszilla, please remember this is a family-friendly channel
[12:35] <knome> diogenes_, if the discussion doesn't seem to lead nowhere, then maybe take a step back
[12:36] <diogenes_> yeah I think he doesn't know what he wants
[12:36] <Arszilla> sorry knome
[12:37] <Arszilla> i.imgur.com/0Iyu5Iu.png
[12:37] <Arszilla> https://i.imgur.com/0Iyu5Iu.png
[12:37] <Arszilla> why is my installed messages like thsi?
[12:38] <knome> which xubuntu version are you using
[12:38] <Arszilla> 16.04.2
[12:40] <knome> have you installed a lot of custom software or is this a clean install?
[12:41] <Arszilla> i installed numix
[12:42] <Arszilla> thats it
[12:42] <Arszilla> now I installed chromium, atom editor, discord, steam, gimp
[12:42] <knome> do the notifications look the same if you chang the theme to greybird?
[12:42] <Arszilla> uhm I can try
[12:42] <Arszilla> let me install vlc
[12:44] <Arszilla> knome is it possible to install gnome tweaks to xubuntu
[12:44] <Arszilla> from Gnome Extensions
[12:45] <knome> i don't know what it does, but i'm not completely sure if changing settings in it would make a difference in xfce - maybe, maybe not
[12:45] <knome> maybe tell us what kind of modifications you'd like to do and we can see if you can do them with the native xfce tools
[12:45] <Arszilla> again for the millionth time
[12:45] <Arszilla> https://extensions.gnome.org/extension/307/dash-to-dock/
[12:45] <Arszilla> trying to get this replicated or installed in xubuntu 16.04.2
[12:45] <knome> that has nothing to do with gnome tweaks
[12:46] <Arszilla> its in extensions.gnome...
[12:47] <knome> so it's a gnome shell extension... no, you can't have it in xfce unless you install gnome shell, which is almost the same as installing gnome
[12:47] <knome> i'm pretty sure there are similar docks that work with xfce - i don't use any so i have no idea what they would be
[12:47] <Arszilla> any way to order my tabs in the topbar?
[12:48] <Arszilla> I dont want chromium away in the right side, I want to move i to the eflt
[12:48] <Arszilla> left*
[12:48] <knome> you can change the window buttons panel applet options - change the sorting to "none, allow drag-and-drop"
[12:48] <Arszilla> and jesus, the text in chromium is big as hell
[12:49] <knome> Arszilla, please, this is a family-friendly channel
[12:49] <knome> this is the last time i'm reminding you friendly about it
[12:50] <Arszilla> where is that in settings?
[12:50] <knome> under panel, tab items, then find "window buttons" (or right-click the window button applet in the panel)
[12:52] <Arszilla> thanks
[12:52] <Arszilla> waiting for vlc to finish
[12:52] <Arszilla> so I can see the notification
[12:53] <Arszilla> knome you could say I am trying to replicate this
[12:53] <Arszilla> https://www.reddit.com/r/unixporn/comments/5q0lei/xfce4_macos_esque/
[12:54] <knome> ok, then you'll want to install the "plank" dock
[12:54] <Arszilla> is that the best one?
[12:54] <knome> i don't know - as i said i don't use one
[12:54] <Arszilla> also
[12:55] <knome> but the tutorial you are following uses that
[12:55] <knome> so maybe you'll want that
[12:55] <Arszilla> is there a dark mode in xubuntu
[12:55] <knome> what do you mean by "dark mode"? a dark theme?
[12:55] <Arszilla> sorta
[12:55] <Arszilla> like file manager etc windows are dark
[12:55] <knome> there are dark themes for xubuntu
[12:56] <Arszilla> one bug I also found
[12:56] <Arszilla> http://imgur.com/a/TbhdS
[12:57] <Arszilla> why is my mouse icon like this
[12:57] <Arszilla> from time to time
[12:57] <knome> i don't see a mouse icon
[12:57] <Arszilla> the black box is
[12:57] <Arszilla> also
[12:58] <Arszilla> https://http://i.imgur.com/rGjDCMz.png
[12:58] <Arszilla> http://i.imgur.com/rGjDCMz.png
[12:58] <Arszilla> still didnt fix
[12:59] <knome> which package manager software are you using to install packages?
[12:59] <Arszilla> none
[12:59] <Arszilla> used terminal to install numix
[12:59] <Arszilla> thats all
[12:59] <knome> what did you use to install vlc then?
[12:59] <Arszilla> then I had downloaded steam.deb etc; installed em normally
[12:59] <Arszilla> software thingy
[13:00] <Arszilla> it was pinned in my favourites so...
[13:00] <knome> ok, maybe it's a bug in (gnome) software
[13:00] <Arszilla> like Ubuntu Software Center
[13:00] <Arszilla> how can I fix it?
[13:00] <knome> well, look in the source code etc...
[13:01] <knome> i don't use gnome software either and i haven't heard from this bug or a workaround for it
[13:01] <Arszilla> let me see if I can get this workin
[20:48] <TheWild> hello
[20:49] <TheWild> why is Blender's interface glitching so badly on Xubuntu?
[22:19] <a27_> hi i cant see panel in live usb