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MooDoomorning all06:51
brobostigonmorning boys and girls.08:16
MooDoomorning brobostigon :) good weekend?08:16
brobostigonmorning MooDoo, yes wasnt bad, and you?08:17
MooDoobrobostigon: yeah not bad thanks :)08:19
brobostigon:)08:19
diddledanpmsl09:40
diddledanI just read this email subject from 9am today: "Nosefart denial of service vulnerability"09:40
diddledanapparently Nosefart is a NES sound file player09:40
diddledan"Nosefart is NES Music Player.Nosefart plays NSF (Nintendo Entertainment System Sound Format) files so you can listen to those old tunes without actually having to play through the games."09:41
MooDoolol09:41
diddledanthat is the best name ever09:41
zmoylan-pisome of the 8bit music and 16bit music is great to program to.09:43
* diddledan plays zmoylan-pi some popcorn10:18
* zmoylan-pi hums along to the boo boo boo 60s classic10:19
diploAfternoon all13:27
diddledananyone got a clue why nautilus is unable to see my freenas since I upped the minimum protocol version from CORE to SMB2?14:42
diddledanI did the protocol upping in freenas gui14:42
diddledanafaict smb is supposed to negotiate the protocol version and setting the minimum just tells it not to negotiate a WORSE protocol14:43
diddledanlinux doesn't support SMB2 or 3???14:44
diddledanI find that hard to believe14:44
diploI've been thinking at looking at this myself diddledan - maybe put off to another day :) could test here and see if it's an issue with freenas over a standard samba share on ubuntu if you like ?14:49
diddledanmight be helpful, yeah15:00
diploOK will take a look at how to do it now15:33
diploSo it appears you have 4 versions of smb215:34
diploit goes to smb2_10 by default, I'll change to that15:34
diddledanyeah, it's confusing because I've read that SMB3 is a synonym for SMB215:56
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diddledanoops. didn't mean to do that21:42
* diddledan just watched minions 2 accidentally21:42
diddledanerr, not minions, despicable me21:43
diddledanI started playing the video to see if I'd ripped it ok from ages ago, and .. kinda just carried on watching21:43
daftykins:>21:43
daftykinsthoroughly tested21:43
daftykinsbut tomorrow night, what if some bits have flipped since tonight?21:44
diddledan:-o21:44
zmoylan-pihave to prevent bitrot21:46
zmoylan-piprint it out on your dot matrix over night21:47
diddledanin hex?21:47
diddledancat despicable-me.mkv > /dev/lp21:47
zmoylan-pithere is a barcode system that puts a few k per page...21:47
daftykinsmy old man's probably hiding the old tractor-feed dot matrix somewhere still21:47
daftykinshahaha21:48
zmoylan-piset up dotmatrix... line up paper... start printout... watch for 5 minutes to see it's working ok...go away and find it barfed somewhere about 5 hours into the print run...21:48
zmoylan-piwe had one customer who had a print run that took 6+ days... every week...21:51
zmoylan-pipatrolling security guards swapping paper in middle of the night21:51
diddledanwhat happened when it got to over 7 days on a weekly basis?21:51
zmoylan-piit actually looked like they were going to replace us for a company that supplied a mainframe printing system... about size of a washing machine. 4 times faster. silly money21:52
zmoylan-pionce i heard i suggested a second printer attached to different computer. saved a bundle. allowed them to print more stuff that had been wanting to print21:53
daftykinscheap game deal ending soon: https://tiltify.com/events/crystal-dynamics-25th-anniversary-campaign21:53
zmoylan-pithey printed off entire customer list and what was owed every week in case of /disaster/ destroying computer system. big american company21:54
daftykinszmoylan-pi: :D21:56
zmoylan-piso in the event of godzilla or nuclear attack the invoices could still be sent out...21:56
zmoylan-piand once this weeks list was printed out they had to dispose of the old list in massive industrial shredder to preserve confidential info21:57
daftykinsthis reminds me of the one on the register i read once, where a big company's secretary had a single super-huge MS Word doc and just created a new page to write a new letter on, printed the whole lot then binned the rest each time22:01
daftykinskeeping just the latest single sheet22:01
daftykinspart of me wonders if anyone would really be that daft, though22:01
* zmoylan-pi sees that and raises you the secretary who followed the setup instructions of her computer every day, installing dos, word perfect, printer setup. then typed up her documents and printed them. and then did the exact same thng the next day. never saved single file. even though she was typing in the same one each day22:02
zmoylan-pibecause that's how she was shown how to use it22:02
daftykinsD:22:03
daftykinssurely not...22:03
zmoylan-piwhen i started the word processor we sold had a typewriter mode were the printer printed the letter as you pressed it and some used it that way22:03
diddledanwat.22:04
zmoylan-piit does seem bizarre now but that's how it was22:04
diddledanless off. more on. very moron22:04
diddledan:-p22:04
diddledanalthough, my nan wouldn't know which end of a mouse you're supposed to point at the screen22:05
zmoylan-pibut in some cases the not saving documents was done for a legal reason as it was a soliciters.  they had a whole bunch of legal rules they had to follow for any letters sent22:05
daftykinsas in a whole electronic typewriter unit? or PC attached?22:05
zmoylan-pithey'd stretch the pc keyboard over to were the printer was so that they could see what they were typing appear as they typed it22:06
diddledan"don't save it. print it in triplicate though for an audit trail"22:06
zmoylan-pii'm not sure if they printed it 3 times...22:07
zmoylan-pii think i was afraid of the answer if i asked... :-)22:07
diddledanlol22:07
zmoylan-pimind you, these women were typing at >120wpm so it didn't take much time22:08
zmoylan-pii always remember the typewriter mode as lasers were starting to become more available and having to explain to customers the type writer mode wouldn't work on them22:11
zmoylan-pi...unless they were willing to put the sheet of paper back in multiple times... :-P22:12
daftykins:D22:12
diddledanhow many thought that was actually a sensible option?22:12
zmoylan-pii think a few said they'd think about it and get back to us...22:12
daftykinsi haven't had any particularly funny support situations recently22:14
daftykinsclosest call was a client i'd reinstalled the work-from-home laptop for, they took it home and asked why the VPN wouldn't connect... i called up to assist connecting the machine to their home wifi22:15
zmoylan-pithey didn't have wifi, did they?22:15
daftykinsthat would be far better, nah it just didn't have a saved network key since it was reinstalled22:15
daftykinsi don't manage their home setup22:15
daftykinsi fell over on the top of my scaffold today, not a crowning moment :(22:25
daftykinsthankfully it was strong enough to take it :P22:25
zmoylan-piat least you didn't fall off it and injure yourself...22:26
diddledaneep22:26
daftykinsnewp just some minor de-skinning22:26
zmoylan-pisplash on the iodine and keep going...22:27
daftykinsthere's a pole poking up about a foot high in the centre of the whole flat, me and my guest were working and i backed up into it... stumbled and dropped to the deck22:27
daftykinsoof.22:27
daftykinsit was going to be time to paint the back, but i found a tonne of loose stuff to scrape off22:28
zmoylan-pionce as a kid we were legging it from been chased by some adult who thought we'd egged his house and as we ran across a building site a mate found a metal bar sticking out of the ground and stopped him self dead in his tracks using just his crotch...22:28
daftykins:S22:29
* diddledan winces22:29
daftykinsjoined the choir after that?22:29
diddledanooh I .. oooh22:29
* diddledan continues wincing22:30
zmoylan-pipoor sod lying on the gound in agony... and all his mates standing around unable to stand upright as we were laughing so hard.... :-P22:30
daftykinsand then the adult caught up with you!?22:30
zmoylan-piwe eventually picked him up and carried him home.  he was fine.  massive bruising. but it was the shock of stopping in such a short distance than anything else22:31
zmoylan-pino, we'd left them behind and were just still running to put distance between us and them22:31
daftykinsyeah, i'm not even sure how that occurred22:31
diddledanI believe an engineer would refer to that as "unexpected arrested movement"22:32
daftykinswhat about an Irish engineer?22:32
diddledan"booger, me nadS!"22:32
daftykins:D22:33
daftykinsok bed for me, toodles \o22:33
zmoylan-pio/22:33
diddledannn22:33
* zmoylan-pi wanders off for a shower...22:33

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