[06:51] <MooDoo> morning all
[08:16] <brobostigon> morning boys and girls.
[08:16] <MooDoo> morning brobostigon :) good weekend?
[08:17] <brobostigon> morning MooDoo, yes wasnt bad, and you?
[08:19] <MooDoo> brobostigon: yeah not bad thanks :)
[08:19] <brobostigon> :)
[09:40] <diddledan> pmsl
[09:40] <diddledan> I just read this email subject from 9am today: "Nosefart denial of service vulnerability"
[09:40] <diddledan> apparently Nosefart is a NES sound file player
[09:41] <diddledan> "Nosefart is NES Music Player.Nosefart plays NSF (Nintendo Entertainment System Sound Format) files so you can listen to those old tunes without actually having to play through the games."
[09:41] <MooDoo> lol
[09:41] <diddledan> that is the best name ever
[09:43] <zmoylan-pi> some of the 8bit music and 16bit music is great to program to.
[10:18]  * diddledan plays zmoylan-pi some popcorn
[10:19]  * zmoylan-pi hums along to the boo boo boo 60s classic
[13:27] <diplo> Afternoon all
[14:42] <diddledan> anyone got a clue why nautilus is unable to see my freenas since I upped the minimum protocol version from CORE to SMB2?
[14:42] <diddledan> I did the protocol upping in freenas gui
[14:43] <diddledan> afaict smb is supposed to negotiate the protocol version and setting the minimum just tells it not to negotiate a WORSE protocol
[14:44] <diddledan> linux doesn't support SMB2 or 3???
[14:44] <diddledan> I find that hard to believe
[14:49] <diplo> I've been thinking at looking at this myself diddledan - maybe put off to another day :) could test here and see if it's an issue with freenas over a standard samba share on ubuntu if you like ?
[15:00] <diddledan> might be helpful, yeah
[15:33] <diplo> OK will take a look at how to do it now
[15:34] <diplo> So it appears you have 4 versions of smb2
[15:34] <diplo> it goes to smb2_10 by default, I'll change to that
[15:56] <diddledan> yeah, it's confusing because I've read that SMB3 is a synonym for SMB2
[21:42] <diddledan> oops. didn't mean to do that
[21:42]  * diddledan just watched minions 2 accidentally
[21:43] <diddledan> err, not minions, despicable me
[21:43] <diddledan> I started playing the video to see if I'd ripped it ok from ages ago, and .. kinda just carried on watching
[21:43] <daftykins> :>
[21:43] <daftykins> thoroughly tested
[21:44] <daftykins> but tomorrow night, what if some bits have flipped since tonight?
[21:44] <diddledan> :-o
[21:46] <zmoylan-pi> have to prevent bitrot
[21:47] <zmoylan-pi> print it out on your dot matrix over night
[21:47] <diddledan> in hex?
[21:47] <diddledan> cat despicable-me.mkv > /dev/lp
[21:47] <zmoylan-pi> there is a barcode system that puts a few k per page...
[21:47] <daftykins> my old man's probably hiding the old tractor-feed dot matrix somewhere still
[21:48] <daftykins> hahaha
[21:48] <zmoylan-pi> set up dotmatrix... line up paper... start printout... watch for 5 minutes to see it's working ok...go away and find it barfed somewhere about 5 hours into the print run...
[21:51] <zmoylan-pi> we had one customer who had a print run that took 6+ days... every week...
[21:51] <zmoylan-pi> patrolling security guards swapping paper in middle of the night
[21:51] <diddledan> what happened when it got to over 7 days on a weekly basis?
[21:52] <zmoylan-pi> it actually looked like they were going to replace us for a company that supplied a mainframe printing system... about size of a washing machine. 4 times faster. silly money
[21:53] <zmoylan-pi> once i heard i suggested a second printer attached to different computer. saved a bundle. allowed them to print more stuff that had been wanting to print
[21:53] <daftykins> cheap game deal ending soon: https://tiltify.com/events/crystal-dynamics-25th-anniversary-campaign
[21:54] <zmoylan-pi> they printed off entire customer list and what was owed every week in case of /disaster/ destroying computer system. big american company
[21:56] <daftykins> zmoylan-pi: :D
[21:56] <zmoylan-pi> so in the event of godzilla or nuclear attack the invoices could still be sent out...
[21:57] <zmoylan-pi> and once this weeks list was printed out they had to dispose of the old list in massive industrial shredder to preserve confidential info
[22:01] <daftykins> this reminds me of the one on the register i read once, where a big company's secretary had a single super-huge MS Word doc and just created a new page to write a new letter on, printed the whole lot then binned the rest each time
[22:01] <daftykins> keeping just the latest single sheet
[22:01] <daftykins> part of me wonders if anyone would really be that daft, though
[22:02]  * zmoylan-pi sees that and raises you the secretary who followed the setup instructions of her computer every day, installing dos, word perfect, printer setup.  then typed up her documents and printed them.  and then did the exact same thng the next day.  never saved single file. even though she was typing in the same one each day
[22:02] <zmoylan-pi> because that's how she was shown how to use it
[22:03] <daftykins> D:
[22:03] <daftykins> surely not...
[22:03] <zmoylan-pi> when i started the word processor we sold had a typewriter mode were the printer printed the letter as you pressed it and some used it that way
[22:04] <diddledan> wat.
[22:04] <zmoylan-pi> it does seem bizarre now but that's how it was
[22:04] <diddledan> less off. more on. very moron
[22:04] <diddledan> :-p
[22:05] <diddledan> although, my nan wouldn't know which end of a mouse you're supposed to point at the screen
[22:05] <zmoylan-pi> but in some cases the not saving documents was done for a legal reason as it was a soliciters.  they had a whole bunch of legal rules they had to follow for any letters sent
[22:05] <daftykins> as in a whole electronic typewriter unit? or PC attached?
[22:06] <zmoylan-pi> they'd stretch the pc keyboard over to were the printer was so that they could see what they were typing appear as they typed it
[22:06] <diddledan> "don't save it. print it in triplicate though for an audit trail"
[22:07] <zmoylan-pi> i'm not sure if they printed it 3 times...
[22:07] <zmoylan-pi> i think i was afraid of the answer if i asked... :-)
[22:07] <diddledan> lol
[22:08] <zmoylan-pi> mind you, these women were typing at >120wpm so it didn't take much time
[22:11] <zmoylan-pi> i always remember the typewriter mode as lasers were starting to become more available and having to explain to customers the type writer mode wouldn't work on them
[22:12] <zmoylan-pi> ...unless they were willing to put the sheet of paper back in multiple times... :-P
[22:12] <daftykins> :D
[22:12] <diddledan> how many thought that was actually a sensible option?
[22:12] <zmoylan-pi> i think a few said they'd think about it and get back to us...
[22:14] <daftykins> i haven't had any particularly funny support situations recently
[22:15] <daftykins> closest call was a client i'd reinstalled the work-from-home laptop for, they took it home and asked why the VPN wouldn't connect... i called up to assist connecting the machine to their home wifi
[22:15] <zmoylan-pi> they didn't have wifi, did they?
[22:15] <daftykins> that would be far better, nah it just didn't have a saved network key since it was reinstalled
[22:15] <daftykins> i don't manage their home setup
[22:25] <daftykins> i fell over on the top of my scaffold today, not a crowning moment :(
[22:25] <daftykins> thankfully it was strong enough to take it :P
[22:26] <zmoylan-pi> at least you didn't fall off it and injure yourself...
[22:26] <diddledan> eep
[22:26] <daftykins> newp just some minor de-skinning
[22:27] <zmoylan-pi> splash on the iodine and keep going...
[22:27] <daftykins> there's a pole poking up about a foot high in the centre of the whole flat, me and my guest were working and i backed up into it... stumbled and dropped to the deck
[22:27] <daftykins> oof.
[22:28] <daftykins> it was going to be time to paint the back, but i found a tonne of loose stuff to scrape off
[22:28] <zmoylan-pi> once as a kid we were legging it from been chased by some adult who thought we'd egged his house and as we ran across a building site a mate found a metal bar sticking out of the ground and stopped him self dead in his tracks using just his crotch...
[22:29] <daftykins> :S
[22:29]  * diddledan winces
[22:29] <daftykins> joined the choir after that?
[22:29] <diddledan> ooh I .. oooh
[22:30]  * diddledan continues wincing
[22:30] <zmoylan-pi> poor sod lying on the gound in agony... and all his mates standing around unable to stand upright as we were laughing so hard.... :-P
[22:30] <daftykins> and then the adult caught up with you!?
[22:31] <zmoylan-pi> we eventually picked him up and carried him home.  he was fine.  massive bruising. but it was the shock of stopping in such a short distance than anything else
[22:31] <zmoylan-pi> no, we'd left them behind and were just still running to put distance between us and them
[22:31] <daftykins> yeah, i'm not even sure how that occurred
[22:32] <diddledan> I believe an engineer would refer to that as "unexpected arrested movement"
[22:32] <daftykins> what about an Irish engineer?
[22:32] <diddledan> "booger, me nadS!"
[22:33] <daftykins> :D
[22:33] <daftykins> ok bed for me, toodles \o
[22:33] <zmoylan-pi> o/
[22:33] <diddledan> nn
[22:33]  * zmoylan-pi wanders off for a shower...