[06:49] @julienlavergne It might fix the dhcpcd problems if you were to release the changes you made in lp:lubuntu-default-settings to the archive. ;) [06:49] @julienlavergne In my mind, it justifies the release. [06:51] @tsimonq2, Not sure, the change should only autostart dhcpcd [06:51] @julienlavergne, Which should probably fix the issue. [06:52] Well you told me the bug was still here when you start the stuff [06:53] Or wxl, I don't remember [06:53] That was me. :) [06:53] Well my theory is that if dhcpcd is running, it won't take 5 minutes to boot the image, and it will use dhcpcd instead of manager. [06:53] s/manager/nm/ [06:54] I'll push it tonight, it's harmless now after the alpha release [06:54] Sure, great :) [06:54] But while you're here, I'd also like to talk to you about lubuntu-default-settings in general. [06:55] @julienlavergne Do we still support those extra sessions, and would you have any reservations/hesitations about removing them? [06:55] i.e. lxgames and nexus7 [06:57] The ones on the extra packages ? Why ? Are they broken ? [06:57] Not as far as I can tell. [06:57] But to be fair, I haven't tried it lately. [06:58] As long as it's working, no need to worry :-) [06:58] Sure, I'm just wondering if we still need to keep a Nexus 7 session around ;) [07:00] Anyways, I was wondering if you would be opposed to playing with the package and at minimum splitting the Qt default settings from the GTK ones and maybe having like a "share" or a "common" package. The reason for doing this is because it seems the Qt image pulls in a minimal LXDE session because of this package, [07:01] That could be renaming "touch screen session" :-) [07:01] @julienlavergne, sure ;) [07:02] @tsimonq2, @julienlavergne So would you be opposed to me playing with this and sending you a merge proposal? :) [07:30] @tsimonq2, Not yet [07:30] Oh? [07:31] The problem on the Qt image should be fixed by playing with recommends/suggests [07:31] I think I commit something already in lubuntu-default-settings [07:35] @julienlavergne, But won't packages not be installed when on the GTK image, or are all of the packages it depends on in the seed already? [07:35] Also, we have to move the settings to put them on only 1 directory, it's currently too messy [07:36] Sure [07:36] If we need to split, we can do it at this moment, to avoid too many Breaks/Replaces [07:37] You mean, at the same time as splitting? [07:37] @tsimonq2, They should be on the gtk image, if not we have to add them [07:37] @julienlavergne, Ok [07:37] @tsimonq2, Yes [07:37] Alright. [07:38] @julienlavergne So what would you like to do from here? Should we fix the Qt image first then move to reorganization, or do it all at once? [08:01] Let's see after the tonight update of lubuntu-default-settings [08:08] @julienlavergne, ack [08:08] Thanks Julien! [11:41] -queuebot:#lubuntu-devel- Builds: Lubuntu Desktop amd64 [Xenial 16.04.3] (20170801) has been added [11:41] -queuebot:#lubuntu-devel- Builds: Lubuntu Desktop i386 [Xenial 16.04.3] (20170801) has been added [18:28] General warning / announcement : if the daily iso are broken tomorrow (don't boot on graphical session), ping me so I can fix my mess :-) [18:40] boss, I need to know how much time Artwork has before freezing [21:01] @redwolf, UI freeze is on September 14th [21:24] Nice. I have trillions of things to do! [21:25] Like figuring out how to activate Kvantum on start-up [21:25] And improve the gtk theme. I already have the code from canonical