[05:22] if anyone knows where nik90 hangs let him know I fixed his Ubuntu Membership going out [05:23] ahoneybun: Not saying it was, but what if it was intentional? [05:23] (i.e. what if he doesn't want to be part of Ubuntu any more?) [06:17] I'm really uncomfortable with this favoritism of auto-renewing some people and not others [06:17] pleia2: That's also sort of my point [06:18] Regardless, I'd support just not auto-renewing at all unless they directly email the membership board. [06:18] agreed [06:18] that's how it's supposed to be [06:18] not sure how people got into the habit of doing this for people they know :\ [06:19] I don't know... [06:19] plenty of "important" people in ubuntu have membership lapse, just yesterday was bapoumba and she was a forums council member and stuff [06:19] no one autorenwed her [06:20] Regardless, sometimes people have privately emailed membership board members saying "oh shoot, I forgot to renew it, could you do that for me?" in which case the member should probably email the board explaining that. [06:20] yeah, that's no problem [06:20] pleia2: I think we're on the same page here :) [06:20] * pleia2 nods [06:21] (I mean, we agree, I can't word good right now, -> caffeine) :) [06:22] I'll email the membership board in the morning to see if we can get this practice sorted [06:22] now I need rest ;) [06:34] pleia2: great minds think alike, had the same idea when I was making my coffee ;) [06:34] sleep well [06:36] honestly I don't even know who is on the board and who is not anymore [06:37] I just saw a name I knew and did it [08:13] ahoneybun: in answer to your original question, Nekhelesh hangs out on Telegram mostly [15:06] in general, it is difficult to know if a membership lapse was accidental or willful; I have never seen a written rule/decision on that, but... [15:07] what I have heard from other members thru the years is we wait for the ex-member to request re-instatement [15:08] what *I* have done is I would contact some that I personally knew, and ask them if they noticed, and take action depending on the response [15:10] there is also the question of "how long is long enough": a membership lapsed 1/2/3/4/5 days/weeks/months/years. Should we renew, or must the person re-apply? [15:28] Just my opinion as an Ubuntu Member but if an Ubuntu Member gets an email prompting them to take an action and they don't then that is *their* problem. If someone else with the appropriate access renews on their behalf then what is the point of the two year rule? [15:34] Once a membership has expired than that is for that Ubuntu Member to deal with him/herself if there is a need to do so. [15:55] PaulW2U: not always you get an email. I myself have lapsed at least once because I did not receive the warnings (or, if I did, it was lost somehow). Apart for that, yes, I agree.