[05:22] <ahoneybun> if anyone knows where nik90 hangs let him know I fixed his Ubuntu Membership going out
[05:23] <tsimonq2> ahoneybun: Not saying it was, but what if it was intentional?
[05:23] <tsimonq2> (i.e. what if he doesn't want to be part of Ubuntu any more?)
[06:17] <pleia2> I'm really uncomfortable with this favoritism of auto-renewing some people and not others
[06:17] <tsimonq2> pleia2: That's also sort of my point
[06:18] <tsimonq2> Regardless, I'd support just not auto-renewing at all unless they directly email the membership board.
[06:18] <pleia2> agreed
[06:18] <pleia2> that's how it's supposed to be
[06:18] <pleia2> not sure how people got into the habit of doing this for people they know :\
[06:19] <tsimonq2> I don't know...
[06:19] <pleia2> plenty of "important" people in ubuntu have membership lapse, just yesterday was bapoumba and she was a forums council member and stuff
[06:19] <pleia2> no one autorenwed her
[06:20] <tsimonq2> Regardless, sometimes people have privately emailed membership board members saying "oh shoot, I forgot to renew it, could you do that for me?" in which case the member should probably email the board explaining that.
[06:20] <pleia2> yeah, that's no problem
[06:20] <tsimonq2> pleia2: I think we're on the same page here :)
[06:20]  * pleia2 nods
[06:21] <tsimonq2> (I mean, we agree, I can't word good right now, -> caffeine) :)
[06:22] <pleia2> I'll email the membership board in the morning to see if we can get this practice sorted
[06:22] <pleia2> now I need rest ;)
[06:34] <tsimonq2> pleia2: great minds think alike, had the same idea when I was making my coffee ;)
[06:34] <tsimonq2> sleep well
[06:36] <ahoneybun> honestly I don't even know who is on the board and who is not anymore
[06:37] <ahoneybun> I just saw a name I knew and did it
[08:13] <popey> ahoneybun: in answer to your original question, Nekhelesh hangs out on Telegram mostly
[15:06] <hggdh> in general, it is difficult to know if a membership lapse was accidental or willful; I have never seen a written rule/decision on that, but...
[15:07] <hggdh> what I have heard from other members thru the years is we wait for the ex-member to request re-instatement
[15:08] <hggdh> what *I* have done is I would contact some that I personally knew, and ask them if they noticed, and take action depending on the response
[15:10] <hggdh> there is also the question of "how long is long enough": a membership lapsed 1/2/3/4/5 days/weeks/months/years. Should we renew, or must the person re-apply?
[15:28] <PaulW2U> Just my opinion as an Ubuntu Member but if an Ubuntu Member gets an email prompting them to take an action and they don't then that is *their* problem. If someone else with the appropriate access renews on their behalf then what is the point of the two year rule?
[15:34] <PaulW2U> Once a membership has expired than that is for that Ubuntu Member to deal with him/herself if there is a need to do so.
[15:55] <hggdh> PaulW2U: not always you get an email. I myself have lapsed at least once because I did not receive the warnings (or, if I did, it was lost somehow). Apart for that, yes, I agree.