[00:03] <saitoh183> has anyone used UrBackup?
[00:08] <aarcane> Holy Goatse batman..  I just logged into an old 14.04 LTS VM (Running Mythbuntu, but that's not important), and updating failed with disk full errors...  I didn't do anything to fix the problem except uninstall a few...  Dozen kernel images (plus headers...)  and now I've cleared up almost 10GB o,.,0  I'm doing a dist-upgrade now to 16.04.02
[00:13] <Bashing-om> aarcane:  approximately 300Mb per old kernel .
[00:13] <aarcane> It's just crazy how many there were and how much disk space they were taking up...  almost 70% of the disk
[00:21] <Mintuli> howdy!
[00:21] <Bashing-om> aarcane: 16.04 now supports autoremove to auto remove old kernels when now ones are installed .
[00:23] <aarcane> Bashing-om, I'm looking forward to it.  If my disk wasn't full, I would have just done the upgrade, lol
[00:24] <Bashing-om> aarcane: Edit the autoremove setting in /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/50unattended-upgrades from 'false' to 'true' .
[00:25] <aarcane> Bashing-om, I guess I'll need to do that.  Thank you for the tidbit ^,.,^
[00:26] <aarcane> upgrade is in progress now.  It's "Installing the upgrades"
[00:29] <UnityKris> Anyone know why my monitor is showing as a 40" in display settings and the desktop and all windows hang over the left, bottom, and right side of the screen. The top all aligns fine though.
[00:29] <UnityKris> monitor is only 21"
[00:37] <UnityKris> adding a custom screen resolution (1280x800 16:10) just makes the monitor show "unsupported resolution"
[00:42] <CuChulaind> How do I make my ubuntu machine a socks proxy server? anything I need to do to the ssh settings?
[00:44] <CuChulaind> I want to set ubuntu as a proxy server, and connect my windows 7 machine to it (to browse the web mostly)
[00:44] <CuChulaind> I have OpenSSH installed
[00:55] <Miguel2013> hey guys
[00:56] <Miguel2013> can anyone help me find out if either of these 3 gigabit pcmcia cards will work in current linux? D-Link DGE-660TD then NETGEAR GA511 and TRENDnet Gigabit PC Card Card TEG-PCBUSR
[00:57] <Miguel2013> of if you have it that's aweomse
[00:57] <Poster> generally you need to knwo their chipset, past that you can also try booting up to a live CD/DVD/USB disk
[00:59] <Miguel2013> butI don't have these cards
[00:59] <Miguel2013> I want to know which one works best before buying
[00:59] <Poster> ok then you'll need to research their chipsets
[01:00] <null_r3f> How does x11vnc, the proprietary nvidia driver, and Xorg play together on a headless server? Trying to troubleshoot a resolution problem
[01:00] <Poster> They can occasionally change based upon the version of the card
[01:00] <oerheks> Miguel2013, easy, if you google card + linux, you would find NETGEAR GA511 with issues
[01:00] <Miguel2013> oh wow
[01:07] <CuChulaind> WHy is it when I connect from my windows (putty, with dynamic turned on) to my ubuntu running ssh server, I am unable to use Ubunut as a proxy?
[01:07] <CuChulaind> what to I need to check?
[01:10] <leftyfb> CuChulaind: that sounds like a how to use putty on Windows as a proxy question
[01:11] <CuChulaind> suppose it would make sense to try it with another ubuntu machine 1st
[01:13] <leftyfb> CuChulaind: it has very little-to-nothing to do with the ubuntu server and everything to do with the features of putty on Windows
[01:14] <leftyfb> CuChulaind: read the documentation for putty on Windows or google for proxy with putty for windows
[01:14] <CuChulaind> leftyfb, gotcha, so as long as the ssh server is up and I can connect,it should work hunky dory? No special ssh settings?
[01:14] <leftyfb> CuChulaind: correct
[01:15] <CuChulaind> leftyfb, thanks, that's good to know
[01:15] <CuChulaind> leftyfb, maybe, since I can do just web browsing, so set up a reverse port forward instead of dynamic?
[01:16] <Miguel2013> when I put it on yahoo the netgear and d-link card seem to have the same chipset
[01:26] <oerheks> even their site does not give that info, http://www.trendnet.com/products/proddetail?prod=235_TEG-PCBUSR#tabs-solution01
[01:27] <oerheks> you only know for sure if you read the lspci 8-digit hex number
[01:29] <Miguel2013> oerheks, the others
[01:46] <fishcooker> how to screen capture the desktop ?
[01:47] <[n0mad]> prt scr
[01:48] <fishcooker> video [n0mad]
[01:49] <[n0mad]> you want to video capture the desktop?
[01:50] <oerheks> !info recordmydesktop
[01:51] <oerheks> vlc could stream it too
[01:52] <oerheks> !info kazam
[02:06] <Herdo> I'm trying to get update-motd to work but having some difficulty.
[02:07] <Herdo> I noticed on this page: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UpdateMotd   it mentions creating a cronjob in /etc/cron.d, but I'm not seeing anything there
[02:07] <Herdo> I'm using Ubuntu Minimal 16.04
[02:07] <Herdo> any ideas?
[02:25] <theablestman> hello
[02:25] <theablestman> how do i completely remove steam?
[02:27] <PipeItToDevNull> apt purge steam
[02:27] <theablestman> k
[02:28] <theablestman> you should be thedevnull
[03:04] <TheG0ldenG0d> I have a windows/ubuntu dual boot using Grub that worked up until recently when I removed the 2 raid drives that make up Windows. I rebuilt the raid safely but I can't get grub to load Windows. Ubuntu still boots. I get the error can't find device 'DEVICENAME' Nu such command NTLDR This is my pastebin of 40_custom in /etc/grub.d: https://pastebin.com/1S04WefP
[03:15] <glitsj16> TheG0ldenG0d: have you checked that the UUID used in your paste is correct?
[03:19] <TheG0ldenG0d> yes
[03:19] <TheG0ldenG0d> using blkid
[03:20] <TheG0ldenG0d> I pasted the uuid from the output of blkid directly over the line that has the uuid in 40_custom and they match up perfectly
[03:21] <TheG0ldenG0d> this is my blkid output https://www.pastebin.com/3mkWCDSR
[03:21] <glitsj16> TheG0ldenG0d: okay, the error message seems to indicate there's no ntldr found.. tried using 'chainloader +1' yet instead?
[03:22] <TheG0ldenG0d> no where do byou place that
[03:22] <TheG0ldenG0d> after the search line
[03:22] <TheG0ldenG0d> ?
[03:23] <glitsj16> no, in 40_custom, instead of where you have 'ntldr'
[03:24] <glitsj16> instead of 'ntldr /bootmgr' sorry^
[03:24] <TheG0ldenG0d> no luck same error
[03:26] <glitsj16> hmm, another way is trying to let os-prober detect your windows.. you need to mount it manually first and run 'sudo os-prober'
[03:27] <glitsj16> and if os-prober detects it, do the usual 'sudo update-grub'
[03:29] <glitsj16> TheG0ldenG0d: did you update grub when trying the first one with 'chainloader +1' actually?
[03:31] <TheG0ldenG0d> yes
[03:31] <TheG0ldenG0d> I know the file system is intact because i can browse the file system in ubuntu
[03:32] <Jordan_U> TheG0ldenG0d: The menuentry you added is for a Windows install configured to boot via BIOS, but you're loading grub (and thus Ubuntu also) via UEFI.
[03:33] <TheG0ldenG0d> os-prober doesnt show any out put even after i manually miounted windows
[03:34] <TheG0ldenG0d> i disabled secure boot (UEFI) in bios for whats they call lgacy mode for linux
[03:34] <TheG0ldenG0d> and other os'es
[03:34] <TheG0ldenG0d> how do i fix this ?
[03:38] <glitsj16> no clue, haven't dual-booted with windows in years.. I can only point you at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair ..
[03:39] <Jordan_U> TheG0ldenG0d: For any reasonable dual boot both OSs need to be configured to boot via the same platform (either both BIOS or both UEFI). Was Windows initially installed for UEFI booting?
[03:39] <TheG0ldenG0d> yes. like i said it was working perfectly
[03:40] <TheG0ldenG0d> so they would have had to be the same platform and i havent reinstalled any os'es
[03:40] <Jordan_U> TheG0ldenG0d: Did you copy over the EFI System Partition?
[03:40] <TheG0ldenG0d> not recently
[03:41] <Jordan_U> TheG0ldenG0d: You say you rebuilt the RAID, was the EFI System Partition containing Windows' bootloader part of this array?
[03:42] <Jordan_U> TheG0ldenG0d: Please run Boot Info Script: https://github.com/arvidjaar/bootinfoscript and pastebin the RESULTS.txt that it produces.
[03:42] <TheG0ldenG0d> i think so
[03:49] <TheG0ldenG0d> https://pastebin.com/wThCjzf5
[03:59] <TheG0ldenG0d> what size is the file /boot/efi/EFI/Microsoft/Boot/bootmgfw.efi.grb and bootx64.efi.grub
[04:00] <TheG0ldenG0d> for you guys
[04:01] <Jordan_U> TheG0ldenG0d: Please try the following menuentry http://paste.ubuntu.com/25217784/ .
[04:03] <TheG0ldenG0d> ok rebooting now
[04:04] <TheG0ldenG0d> did you substitute my uuid in there
[04:06] <TheG0ldenG0d> i mout mine in and have same result
[04:06] <TheG0ldenG0d> cant find efi file
[04:07] <TheG0ldenG0d> my uuid is longer though
[04:08] <TheG0ldenG0d> its a 16 character uuid
[04:08] <TheG0ldenG0d> is that the right uuid ? the one in your sample is shorter
[04:14] <Jordan_U> TheG0ldenG0d: Yes I did. The UUID you need is the UUID of the EFI System Partition, which will be a shorter UUID because an EFI System Partition must be vfat and vfat has shorter UUIDs.
[04:17] <TheG0ldenG0d> how do i find that
[04:17] <TheG0ldenG0d> nm
[04:19] <TheG0ldenG0d> no such device uuid then erro finding the efi file
[04:27] <Jordan_U> TheG0ldenG0d: You used exactly the menuentry that I provided, no mondifications?
[04:28] <TheG0ldenG0d> except the uuid yes
[04:30] <TheG0ldenG0d> but just so i understand why is the efi path the way it is when my efi files are under /boot/efi/EFI/Microsoft etc...
[04:33] <Jordan_U> TheG0ldenG0d: There should be no "except the UUID". I used the correct UUID for your system. Please use exactly the menuentry I provided.
[04:36] <TheG0ldenG0d> wwhoa that did something weird it said cant find efi file '/efi/'... then a screen with a blue text window that says "could not install security protocol: (2) invalid parameter" with an ok button
[04:38] <TheG0ldenG0d> like I mentioned, the path in the chainloader line is not correct
[04:40] <Jordan_U> TheG0ldenG0d: It is correct. /boot/efi/ is a mountpoint and thus all files on the actual filesystem are rooted at that point and do not actually contain '/boot/efi/' in their paths when viewing the filesystem independantly. Are you familiar with mountpoints?
[04:41] <TheG0ldenG0d> yea
[04:41] <Vantage1313> Hi, I'm looking for help with a strategy for diagnosing a problem. Right now I have a desktop ubuntu 17.04 that has the screen frozen. However, I can ssh into the machine. I'm wondering how to troubleshoot or unfreeze the screen on the desktop through ssh. Any tips on how to go about this? Thanks.
[04:41] <TheG0ldenG0d> but the path is /boot/efi/EFI/Microsoft
[04:41] <Vantage1313> This happens periodically, and I can't figure out why. Usually I just end up rebooting the machine, but it's getting annoying
[04:42] <TheG0ldenG0d> so shouldnt it be /EFI/Microsoft/.....
[04:46] <TheG0ldenG0d> oh wait i think i realize that i didnt explain to you in case you didnt notice. windows is on a raid 0 config with 2 drives and i have another ssd with ubuntu
[04:55] <Jordan_U> TheG0ldenG0d: Can you find another device to connect to IRC with so that you can be at the grub shell and here on IRC at the same time?
[05:04] <Dro> how can I protect my data of being accessing from other super users?
[05:09] <Jordan_U> Dro: If they're really able to run as root, and you don't trust them, then you can't trust that machine at all so don't put sensitive information on it.
[05:09] <Dro> Jordan_U, its my machine at office :/
[05:09] <Dro> they can even see my skype conversations.. etc?
[05:10] <Dro> everything is visible for sudo users?
[05:10] <aarcane> Dro, External detachable storage.  When you know another sudo user is connected, disconnect your external storage.
[05:10] <Dro> aarcane, that will be hard to do :P
[05:11] <Dro> just a bit curious if they can see navigation data.. etc
[05:11] <Jordan_U> Dro: They *can* do anything they want. It's up to you to decide how likely they are to do so and how that affects how you use the machine.
[05:12] <Dro> Jordan_U, any tips to keep my navigation data private ?
[05:12] <nonix4> sudoers + no direct root logins + remote logging tends to discourage misbehavior from other admins
[05:12] <aarcane> Dro, most of that data is not in a format that is easy to understand, but yes, they can see it.  Only exceptions being physically unmounted media, or strongly encrypted media.  I believe ubuntu still offers to encrypt your home dir?
[05:12] <Dro> for example concerning Skype conversations, should I use web.skype.com to protect my private conversations ?
[05:13] <Ben64> Dro: if you're doing it on a computer they have root, then they could see that too
[05:13] <Dro> aarcane, yes it offer it, but root can access it even if encrypted
[05:13] <Jordan_U> aarcane: If dro ever decrypts the file using this machine then it *could* be compromised. (I'm not saying that it's at all likely that they would go through the work needed to actually do so).
[05:14] <aarcane> Dro, once you log out and your home dir is re-encrypted, then they can no longer access it.
[05:14] <Ben64> eh that's not necessarily true
[05:15] <Dro> aarcane, aha ok, thanks for the info
[05:15] <brahmana> Hi all.. Is there  a way for me to list all the run-levels for which a particular program (mysql server in this case) is enabled?
[05:15] <Dro> Ben64, so you think its not possible to have a private data ever in that machine?
[05:15] <brahmana> i.e. apart from looking at contents of rc0.d to rc6.d folders
[05:16] <Ben64> Dro: if someone else has root, it cannot be guaranteed
[05:16] <Dro> Ben64, well lets say for example: I use a navigator on private navigation mode, and accessing skype with web.skype.com , how they can get my data
[05:17] <Dro> no history kept in this case I guess! :D
[05:17] <Ben64> because they have root. they could be recording the screen and all inputs
[05:17] <Dro> hmmm
[05:17] <theablestman> hmmm
[05:18] <brahmana> If I try to disable it from auto-starting with `sudo update-rc.d mysql disable` I get the following warning :
[05:18] <brahmana> insserv: warning: current start runlevel(s) (empty) of script `mysql' overrides LSB defaults (2 3 4 5).
[05:18] <Dro> looks like there is no hope to have a private corner with that machine ! :/ :P
[05:19] <aarcane> Dro, boot into your USB Live image?
[05:20] <Dro> aarcane, its my office machine, I have work stuff there (phpstorm ..etc) so i have to use it :P
[05:20] <dot0x01> Hey
[05:20] <aarcane> I think you can copy phpstorm from one PC to another and maintain the installation and activation, but I'm not 100% sure on that.
[05:20] <Dro> I was just wondering if ALL data in that machine are visible for sudoers
[05:20] <dot0x01> Can I ask a question?
[05:21] <Dro> aarcane, forget about that idea, I have LAMP installed too.. etc, etc :P
[05:21] <aarcane> dot0x01, you just did, didn't ya?  Do you have another that's more interesting.
[05:21] <Dro> dot0x01, don't ask to ask, just ask! :D
[05:21] <aarcane> Dro, it's a fairly deep rabbit hole...  but LAMP is easy to install and configure, and so are etc, and etc :P
[05:21] <Dro> lol
[05:22] <theablestman> do ask to piss?
[05:22] <theablestman> jk
[05:23] <Jordan_U> brahmana: Current Ubuntu releases use systemd, and before that used upstart. Neither use runlevels. What version of Ubuntu are you using and what is your end goal?
[05:23] <Dro> thanks for your help aarcane, Ben64 Jordan_U.. time to go to that machine lol :P
[05:24] <aarcane> Dro, don't do anything too stupid now, y'hear?
[05:24] <dot0x01> Is there an actual difference between using the software updater GUI pre-installed on Ubuntu and using apt-get update?
[05:24] <dot0x01> Like, I simply don't understand.
[05:25] <brahmana> Jordan_U: 16.04. I do not know why the mysql package is using Sys V style init scripts. I thought everything was systemd but for some reason this one is still init script.
[05:25] <aarcane> dot0x01, well, on the gui you usually use your mouse to click, where as with apt-get update and apt-get upgrade you're typing out commands manually.
[05:25] <brahmana> The end goal is to find out what run levels this particular script is enabled to run on.
[05:25] <dot0x01> So, it _really_ doesn't matter which one you use?
[05:25] <grey> I'm rebuilding my home fileserver after a hardware failure, and decided to move from openindiana to ubuntu, I'm having a hard time importing my zfs pool though because it was in a failed state from when the old system failed (The SATA controlled failed and all 5 disks went offline at once)
[05:26] <grey> Is there any way to save this? Can I just add the drives to the failed pool until it thinks it has enough replicas or something?
[05:26] <brahmana> Jordan_U: And also to find out a way to disable that warning. That warning troubles apt upgrade since upgrade stops without an enabled Mysql service
[05:26] <aarcane> dot0x01, I mean if you've already got the GUI open and don't want to type the commands, then it kinda makes more sense to use the GUI, right?  but if you're already in a console and just want to type it in rather than navigating to it in the menus, it makes more sense to just type it in, right?  I mean either way they're doing the same thign on the backend..  The result is the same.
[05:27] <dot0x01> Oh okay, thanks. That's what I was wondering. At first I thought they would have different sources regarding the updates etc.
[05:27] <dot0x01> So I was a bit unsure about all of it.
[05:27] <aarcane> dot0x01, just don't confuse apt-get update and apt-get upgrade.
[05:28] <dot0x01> As someone who recently dumped Windows, I'm trying to learn my way around Ubuntu.
[05:29] <wadadli> aarcane: what's the difference?
[05:30] <aarcane> dot0x01, wadadli: apt-get update; tells the package manager to update the list of available packages from online sources.  apt-get upgrade; tells the package manager to *install* newer available packages.
[05:31] <Jordan_U> brahmana: What is the problem you had that initially started this?
[05:32] <theablestman> sudo?
[05:34] <aarcane> theablestman, ?: application not found
[05:35] <theablestman> whats are you trying to do
[05:36] <theablestman> https://paste.ubuntu.com/ it
[05:39] <aarcane> theablestman, I'm just here hanging out and helping people..  But you just pasted an odd command.
[05:39] <gigafish> What is the problem?
[05:39] <theablestman> sudo no longer?
[05:39] <theablestman> im on 14.04ls
[05:39] <theablestman> lts
[06:46] <DannyButterman> Hi There
[06:49] <DannyButterman> How can I resolve local FQDN? I can ping "xx" on my network, reply is "64 bytes from xx.mydomain.local (192.168.x.x) etc", BUT ping directly "xx.mydomain.local" doesn't work. How is it possible ?
[06:52] <DannyButterman> I can ping short machine names but not FQDN
[06:55] <Jordan_U> DannyButterman: It may be possible because there is a PTR record since ping is using a reverse dns lookup to tell you the domain given an ip.
[07:02] <DannyButterman> Jordan_U: You mean the problem is on the DNS servers ? They are AD servers, and all the windows machines have no problem resolving partial names or FQDN
[07:04] <hateball> DannyButterman: .local is used by avahi I think, so disable that
[07:05] <hateball> or well, change the domain name it uses
[07:05] <hateball> DannyButterman: some random page that explains it http://www.lowlevelmanager.com/2011/09/fix-linux-dns-issues-with-local.html
[07:05] <hateball> people should stop using .local for their AD domains :)
[07:06] <DannyButterman> hateball: Disable avahi ? Whats the downside if I do that? No I can't change the domain name, It's professional context
[07:06] <hateball> DannyButterman: You can disable the domain name avahi uses, not the AD Forest obvs
[07:06] <hateball> err change
[07:06] <hateball> not enough coffee
[07:07] <DannyButterman> hatebal: :D
[07:07] <hateball> DannyButterman: well avahi is used to discover devices on your local network
[07:07] <hateball> it's... for home use
[07:07] <DannyButterman> hateball: ok then no remorse
[07:08] <hateball> maybe there's another solution that lets you keep both working proper, but that's more than I know
[07:08] <DannyButterman> Hateball: That's good enough for me thanks
[07:23] <Paulus3> hello
[07:23] <Paulus3> I'm using 14.04 lts, my X system don't go , I'm using irssi from bash in txt mode
[07:24] <Paulus3> my error is : Loading extension GLX
[07:24] <Paulus3> modprobe: ERROR: ../libkmo
[07:24] <Paulus3> etc ...
[07:24] <Jordan_U> Paulus3: Is this a fresh installation? If not, has anything interesting happened recently that might be related to this problem?
[07:24] <Paulus3> I tried to install noveanu but nothing , I'm using nvidia gt610
[07:24] <aarcane> sounds like you need to reinstall your nVidia or AMD proprietary graphics drivers.
[07:25] <Paulus3> yes, it's fresh, i UPGRADE IT FROM 12.04
[07:25] <Paulus3> excuse me
[07:25] <Paulus3> I must install proprietary nvidia drivers , really ?
[07:26] <Jordan_U> Paulus3: You upgraded by re-installing?
[07:26] <Paulus3> I'm using a hdmi video port, but from debian it go without error, strage
[07:26] <Paulus3> upgraded
[07:27] <Jordan_U> Paulus3: OK. I would not call that a fresh install then. Was it working before upgrading then not working immediately after the upgrade?
[07:27] <Paulus3> before working perfectly with hdmi video and audio
[07:27] <aarcane> Paulus3, you don't *need* too install proprietary drivers, but they're generally easier.  Jordan_U may be able to help you, but the easiest way to fix it is to purge X and nouvou and reinstall them.
[07:28] <aarcane> Paulus3, also, make sure you reboot.
[07:28] <hateball> You can use the "ubuntu-drivers" utility to install/use proprietary drivers from cli
[07:28] <Paulus3> apt-get purge .... ?
[07:28] <hateball> Installing nvidia blob will manually blacklist nouveau
[07:29] <Jordan_U> Paulus3: How did you upgrade?
[07:29] <Paulus3> with apt-get upgrade from cli
[07:30] <hateball> That doesnt upgrade distro version
[07:30] <Paulus3> Jordan_U: I'll never upgrade it's too long, better reinstall
[07:31] <Paulus3> apt-get dist-updrage excuse me
[07:31] <Jordan_U> Paulus3: You did not follow the upgrade instructions then, and either haven't upgraded at all or have upgraded using a method that is explicitly unsupported.
[07:31] <Paulus3> apt-get dist-upgrade excuse me
[07:31] <Jordan_U> !upgrade | Paulus3
[07:32] <hateball> Paulus3: dist-upgrade only upgrades packages within your current release, to move from 12.04 do-release-upgrade is used
[07:33] <hateball> To be sure what you're actually running: cat /etc/issue
[07:33] <Paulus3> ah... so I have new packet with old core
[07:33] <Paulus3> packets
[07:33] <hateball> Paulus3: well dist-upgrade will move you to a new kernel, if one is available
[07:34] <Paulus3> Ubuntu 14.04.5 LTS \n \l
[07:34] <aarcane> Paulus3, I've never heard of anyone doing that...  Not even sure if it can be fixed at this point..
[07:34] <Jordan_U> Paulus3: "sudo apt-get upgrade" alone will not change distro versions. The only difference between it and "sudo apt-get upgrade" is that dist-upgrade will remove packages if needed to upgrade. If you also manually changed the release name in /etc/apt/sources.list then you followed an unsupported upgrade procedure and thus it wasn't expected to work.
[07:34] <ducasse> Paulus3: did you manually edit sources.list?
[07:34] <hateball> If you were using nvidia proprietary driver, it's possible dkms failed to build new modules for the new kernel
[07:34] <Paulus3> no , source.list is the same of before
[07:35] <Jordan_U> Paulus3: Then you had Ubuntu 14.04 before you ran "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade".
[07:35] <Paulus3> Jordan_U: what release upgrade with this command ?
[07:36] <Paulus3> 14.04 or 16.04 ?
[07:36] <Jordan_U> Paulus3: I don't understand your question.
[07:36] <hateball> Paulus3: dist-upgrade would move you from say 14.04.1 to 14.04.5, but to go to 16.04 you need to use the command do-release-upgrade
[07:36] <Paulus3> with apt-get dist-upgrade ; this system upgrade to 14.04 or 16.04 lts ?
[07:36] <Jordan_U> Paulus3: No release of Ubuntu upgrades to a newer release just by running "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade".
[07:38] <Paulus3> how past from command line to paste ?
[07:38] <Paulus3> and convert output to english ?
[07:38] <Paulus3> traslate output to english I mean
[07:38] <Jordan_U> Paulus3: I'm saying that if all you've run is "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" and you have Ubuntu 14.04 now, you had Ubuntu 14.04 before running "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade". My guess is that you were mistaken in thinking that you were using Ubuntu 12.04 when you ran "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" and that you have not performed any upgrade to a newer release at all.
[07:39] <Jordan_U> Paulus3: If you run "export LANG=C" then any command you run in that shell will output in English.
[07:39] <Paulus3> apt-get dist-upgrade ; give me error of dependence
[07:39] <Younder> dist-upgrades can be treacherous. Make sure you have installed the latest updates first and that you installation is pretty stock.
[07:40] <TomyWork> hi
[07:40] <Paulus3> it suggest me to run apt-get -f install ; this command give me error
[07:40] <TomyWork> that could be anything. pastebin the error, Paulus3
[07:40] <Paulus3> Errors were encountered while processing: /var/cache/apt/archives/libdaq2_2.0.2-0ubuntu2_amd64.deb
[07:40] <Paulus3> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[07:41] <Paulus3> a simple mode to make go X ?
[07:41] <Paulus3> to do go x ?
[07:42] <Paulus3> I need install proprietary nvidia drivers ?
[07:42] <Paulus3> or not ?
[07:43] <Rumpled> isn't that something to do with the sources file? try to remove it and make another
[07:43] <TomyWork> I had no space under /boot and did a dpkg --remove linux-image-{extra-,}4.4.0-{53..78}-generic and a dpkg --remove linux-image-{extra-,}4.4.0-{80..86}-generic. I had to do the first command twice because it wouldnt complete without free disk space under /boot (but did free some space anyway)
[07:43] <TomyWork> after that, I now have initrd.img-4.4.0-{65,66,70,71,72,75,78}-generic left over
[07:44] <TomyWork> how should I approach these files? just delete them or should i go the safe way of reinstalling each kernel package and then removing it?
[07:45] <ducasse> TomyWork: if you only removed the packages, you need to purge them to get rid of the initrd iirc
[07:45] <Paulus3> hello
[07:46] <TomyWork> ducasse nope, i only have leftovers from the first command
[07:46] <TomyWork> not the second command
[07:46] <TomyWork> so it definitely has to do with the first command failing due to disk space and is not normal behaviour during a package removal
[07:47] <ducasse> TomyWork: check with dpkg -l that there are no residuals left
[07:48] <TomyWork> ducasse linux-image-extra-4.4.0-65-generic linux-image-4.4.0-65-generic both in "rc" state
[07:48] <TomyWork> reinst required, interesting
[07:48] <TomyWork> dpkg did not object to me removing it
[07:48] <ducasse> TomyWork: try purging them
[07:48] <TomyWork> and apt-get -f install did not attempt to solve the problem
[07:49] <Paulus3> hello
[07:49] <TomyWork> actually nm, wrong column. r is for "remove desired"
[07:49] <Paulus3> to purge X ?
[07:49] <Paulus3> apt-get remove ... ?
[07:49] <ducasse> Paulus3: i was not talking to you
[07:50] <Rumpled> Paulus3, i was. i've had that error before when i had a problem with my sources file - which is why i asked
[07:50] <TomyWork> ducasse dpkg --purge linux-image{-extra,}-4.4.0-65-generic => /boot/initrd.img-4.4.0-65-generic is still there
[07:51] <ducasse> TomyWork: if dpkg -l can no longer see the package it should be safe to just delete it afaik
[07:51] <TomyWork> i'll just do a for x in 65 66 70 71 72 75 78; do packages=(linux-image-{extra-,}4.4.0-"$x"-generic); apt-get install "$x" && apt-get remove "$x"; done
[07:51] <TomyWork> with only 2 installed kernels that should be reasonably fast
[07:52] <TomyWork> hmm spot the error :)
[07:52] <TomyWork> for x in 65 66 70 71 72 75 78; do packages=(linux-image-{extra-,}4.4.0-"$x"-generic); apt-get install "${packages[@]}" && apt-get remove "${packages[@]}"; done # fixed
[07:54] <TomyWork> except 65 is no longer available in the repos :/
[08:02] <newuser123123> Hello
[08:02] <Rumpled> hola
[08:08] <newuser123123> I'm having difficulty creating a Live USB on Macbook via terminal. I've gone through all of the steps outlined in "Manual Approach" from this link: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/How%20to%20install%20Ubuntu%20on%20MacBook%20using%20USB%20Stick but once I get to step 9 I get an error that says "No such file or directory" Ive gone through the steps a dozen times and dont understand why it isn't working. Anyone have any ideas?
[08:09] <newuser123123> I've tried googling everything I can think of
[08:10] <hachre> newuser123123: you sure that the parameter to the if you give is correct?
[08:10] <hachre> can you show a screenshot of the terminal window with your command and the resulting message
[08:11] <ducasse> or just pastebin it
[08:12] <hachre> that's an option as well
[08:14] <Jordan_U> newuser123123: What is the exact command that you ran?
[08:15] <newuser123123> https://pastebin.com/qfYMDEfy
[08:15] <hachre> newuser123123: you have the .img file that you want to write onto the stick on the stick itself
[08:15] <hachre> that doesn't work
[08:15] <hachre> you need to have the img file somewhere on your harddrive
[08:16] <icey> how is it that a daily artful desktop image (downloaded an hour ago) has 10 packages upgradable already?!
[08:16] <newuser123123> and then just copy all of the files over to the flash drive after the command has executed?
[08:16] <ducasse> !ubuntu+1 | icey
[08:17] <Rumpled> maybe you downloaded a pack of images, icey
[08:17] <hachre> newuser123123: what files? you are writing the contents of the .img file onto the stick via that dd command, nothing else
[08:17] <newuser123123> gotcha, this is my first time doing a live usb
[08:17] <hachre> np
[08:17] <newuser123123> haha!
[08:18] <newuser123123> thanks!
[08:18] <icey> ducasse: it's not really a support question, just wondering about 10 updates since image build :-P
[08:18] <Jordan_U> newuser123123: Note that that command will destroy all data on that USB drive.
[08:19] <ducasse> icey: it's a question about a development release, so it goes in #ubuntu+1
[08:19] <newuser123123> Noted!
[08:19] <ducasse> icey: but yes, there are tons of updates daily now
[08:21] <TomyWork> ducasse this worries me: The link /vmlinuz is a damaged link\nRemoving symbolic link vmlinuz \n you may need to re-run your boot loader[grub]\nThe link /initrd.img is a damaged link\nRemoving symbolic link initrd.img \n you may need to re-run your boot loader[grub]
[08:21] <TomyWork> i should be fine after a dpkg --reconfigure $current_kernel, right?
[08:22] <navoj> Hi! I can not connect to WIFI, in network options in upper menu I only see ethernet. What could cause this problem?
[08:22] <navoj> I am using 16.04 LTS
[08:22] <ducasse> TomyWork: yes, but just check the links to make sure
[08:28] <TomyWork> ducasse dpkg-reconfigure linux-image-{extra-,}4.4.0-{79,87}-generic completed with no warnings and the symlinks are back
[08:28] <ducasse> TomyWork: goodie
[08:29] <TomyWork> navoj pastebin the output of "rfkill list"
[08:30] <navoj> TomyWork: http://paste.ubuntu.com/25218861/
[08:31] <TomyWork> so it's not blocked
[08:31] <TomyWork> *shrug* this is the end of my knowledge, sorry
[08:32] <navoj> thanks anyways
[08:32] <TomyWork> i dont have an "upper menu" so i assume you're using a different DE than me, so i cant even help you with your WLAN configuration tool
[08:32] <navoj> ahh :/ by "upper menu" i think on a menu bar where clock, battery power etc is
[08:33] <ducasse> navoj: which wifi chipset is this?
[08:33] <navoj> ducasse how I can check that?
[08:34] <ducasse> navoj: pastebin the output from 'sudo lshw -c network'
[08:35] <navoj> ducasse: http://paste.ubuntu.com/25218874/
[08:37] <ducasse> navoj: RTL8821AE, you might need a driver for that. realtek chipsets are notoriously troublesome.
[08:39] <navoj> ducasse where I can find it? :/
[08:39] <ducasse> navoj: https://askubuntu.com/questions/525703/realtek-rtl8821ae-wifi-driver-alternative
[08:40] <navoj> ducasse my wifi connection worked for some time but it just went disconnecting and it disappear in one moment
[08:40] <ducasse> navoj: that's what i mean by realtek being crap
[08:42] <navoj> ducasse so only solution is to change card?
[08:42] <ducasse> navoj: read the link i posted
[08:43] <navoj> thanks :)
[08:44] <ducasse> navoj: good luck. i'd just get a better wifi chipset, though.
[08:52] <pagios> hi all, having a problem turning my wifi adapter into an ap any idea? https://pastebin.com/HS1yBkcB <-- can someone help?
[08:56] <Rumpled> do you know if the adapter supports it? linux wireless might
[09:13] <vbotka> pagios, https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Hostapd#Requirement
[09:18] <Evonuts> Evening all
[09:18] <Evonuts> My freshly installed Ubuntu 16.04 server is suspected to be flooding my network .. has anyone got some pointers ? I'm reasonably noob when it comes to Linux networking! :(
[09:19] <SwedeMike> Evonuts: did you run software update after installation?
[09:19] <TomyWork> pvdisplay shows /dev/sda3 as being part of a volume group, yet fdisk -l /dev/sda shows /dev/sda3 not as "8e Linux LVM" but as "83 Linux". Is that a problem?
[09:20] <Evonuts> SwedeMike: Hi, thanks for the response.. yep I'm all up to date..
[09:20] <Evonuts> As in there's no update notices on ssh session
[09:20] <TomyWork> "apt-get upgrade -d" lists no upgrades?
[09:21] <Evonuts> ok.. I lie.. there's 7 available! :)
[09:21] <Evonuts> 7 packages can be updated. 0 updates are security updates.
[09:21] <TomyWork> (-d stands for "download only", just in case it starts working right away :))
[09:21] <Evonuts> Thanks for the explanation.. I often just throw the updates... so happy to run to clear those 7 if required.
[09:22] <Evonuts> grub-common grub-pc grub-pc-bin grub2-common - FYI
[09:22] <Evonuts> Requiring update.
[09:22] <amp3r> hello
[09:22] <Evonuts> A quick run down of the issue if I may ...
[09:23] <Evonuts> The server had similar flood issues previously.. .so I've entirely blown the box and started fresh ...
[09:23] <Evonuts> It's been up for a couple of days without much issue... which lead me to believe I'd cleared whatever was happening.. but today it brought the network down as it had done previously..
[09:25] <Evonuts> If the network cable is pulled.. the rest of the network comes back instantly...
[09:25] <Evonuts> Returning the cable and the network dies..
[09:25] <Evonuts> Until a reboot on that box.
[09:26] <Evonuts> So my assumption is that something on that box is causing some form of network flood.. but I have no idea how to diagnose it :(
[09:27] <Evonuts> At the moment it has a high port open (and nat'd thru the router) for SSH, and another port open / nat'd for another service.. but that service is not loaded presently (and the issue appears to occur regardless)
[09:34] <trijntje_> I'm having wifi problems on a fresh install of ubuntu 16.04. Network manager shows I am connected to the wifi but I cannot access any websites
[09:35] <Rumpled> try trace to see where packets are being lost
[09:36] <Rumpled> the fact that you're on here says to most that the internet is working
[09:37] <Evonuts> The network is in another location than where I am at the moment...
[09:37] <Evonuts> and do you mean 'tracepath' specifically ?
[09:38] <Evonuts> Oh sorry .. I missed the other question here. Ignore me
[09:38] <Rumpled> heh, sorry
[09:39] <trijntje_> Rumpled: I dont have a tracer program, and most likely it would be blocked by the network anyway. I also cant ping stuff
[09:40] <Rumpled> tracepath is the default
[09:40] <Rumpled> i think it requires sudo
[09:41] <Evonuts> Doesnt require sudo FYI
[09:41] <trijntje_> Rumpled: 1: send failed:
[09:41] <trijntje_> resum: pmtu 65535
[09:41] <Rumpled> okay, don't know why i thought it did then
[09:42] <Rumpled> maybe traceroute does, who knows
[09:44] <Rumpled> does this network require a login?
[09:45] <pagios> vbotka, https://pastebin.com/FRLXpRAY
[09:45] <trijntje_> Rumpled: yes, but I think it is logged in because network manager shows that the pc is connected to the wifi network
[09:46] <Rumpled> no, i mean does it require some form of web login? mobile networks using tethered data do as do many public wifis
[09:46] <Rumpled> or is it your home network?
[09:51] <trijntje_> Rumpled: this is at work, but I just requires a regular wifi password, no web login
[09:53] <Ben64> trijntje: probably requires something else, ask the IT people
[09:54] <Rumpled> ^
[09:54] <Rumpled> my work does the same thing
[09:56] <Dirkos> How can this happen?
[09:56] <Dirkos> E: Failed to fetch http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/m/mysql-5.5/mysql-client_5.5.55-0ubuntu0.14.04.1_all.deb  404  Not Found [IP: 91.189.91.23 80]
[09:56] <Dirkos> after installing: root@nl:~# apt-get install mysql-client
[09:58] <trijntje_> Ben64: Rumpled I can connect with other ubuntu pc's, so it is not the case that the network requires additional information
[09:59] <Rumpled> dirkos, try update first
[10:00] <Dirkos> Rumpled: hmm strange, should have happened already though, but will check :)
[10:01] <Rumpled> might have to append the version number to the end too, might be 5.7
[10:02] <Rumpled> might = will
[10:02] <Dirkos> yeah indeed
[10:02] <Rumpled> got it?
[10:05] <Evonuts> So anyone know the best/simplest way to monitor network traffic from Ubuntu 16.04 server ?
[10:08] <amp3r> tcpdump ;D
[10:09] <Evonuts> had looked at that.. but it was ... spammy :) but admittedly I'm not too sure what I'd be looking at! :)
[10:10] <amp3r> it's perhaps the most powerfull tool. you just need to get used with the filters
[10:10] <Evonuts> Sure
[10:16] <Azrael_-> Evonuts: there are also nice frontend-programs which provide similar features and can both run independently or use a tcpdump-file as basis (e.g. if you don't have a gui on a server). my tool of choice: wireshark
[10:19] <akik> Evonuts: try iptraf-ng
[10:30] <WoLf> Hello, I'm trying to get landscape-sysinfo to work on my system. I can't figure out why it does not display the system temperature. (Lubuntu 17.04 64bit, but same issue was present before on other flavors / releases)
[10:30] <WoLf> sensors shows correct temperature for the system.
[10:31] <WoLf> there is not much on Google on trying to resolve this issue, or at least I haven't found the correct answer yet.
[10:31] <Evonuts> Thanks Azrael_- / akik
[10:38] <theablestman> GM XD
[11:02] <amp3r> anyone know a tutorial for sshuttle?
[11:02] <amp3r> beside man
[11:07] <glitsj16> amp3r: have you looked at the documentation for sshutle yet? --> http://sshuttle.readthedocs.io/en/stable/
[11:28] <amp3r> @glitsj16 I started reading the man page
[11:28] <amp3r> that was my next stop
[11:35] <hosas> I have a theoretical question: can I give a program the right to-read write and execute just in a given folder. But at the same time it can't alter certain group of files even after reading them?
[11:35] <hosas> is this possible
[11:35] <hosas> please ready need your opinion
[11:35] <hosas> thanks
[11:35] <EriC^^> hosas: sure, you can run the program as a user that has those permissions
[11:37] <EriC^^> hosas: make sure the user doesn't own the dir, that way he can't delete the file and recreate it (i think having just w to the dir you can't delete stuff, try it and see)
[11:38] <hosas> EriC^^: but what stops the program from renaming it the said files after reading then- note this user has: read write and execute permission in this folder
[11:40] <hosas> EriC^^: he might not have permission to delete it, but once it can read the file and it has a write permission why can't it just make a copy of it with another another name?
[11:40] <EriC^^> hosas: yeah i just tried it, having rwx to a dir lets you delete the files if you want
[11:41] <aperol> hey, I'm looking for help
[11:41] <aperol> I'm setting up a openvpn server but I can't start it
[11:42] <EriC^^> hosas: maybe just give him access to a subdir that he can create files in and possibly delete or rename?
[11:42] <hosas> EriC^^:  so no solution even a theoretical solution/suggestion?
[11:43] <hosas> EriC^^: let me try to tell what we are working on
[11:44] <EriC^^> hosas: well, you can do sudo chattr +i /path/to/file to make it immutable
[11:45] <EriC^^> he can't delete or rename it then or chattr -i it, i've not done this before so ask around before depending on it maybe
[11:45] <hosas> EriC^^: it's theory on how to protect the entry files from manipulation by a rough AI, which is just a smart program that has read permission to a given folder
[11:46] <hosas> EriC^^: but it can make copies and rename them right? then we still have a problem
[11:46] <EriC^^> hosas: it's becoming inconsistent though, what you're asking
[11:47] <hosas> EriC^^: I now chattr -i I don't it would help
[11:47] <EriC^^> you want him to be able to read files, and you want to give him write permission to the dir, then logically he can read/copy it and make another file with another name
[11:47] <hosas> EriC^^: no it's not
[11:47] <EriC^^> it doesn't add up imo
[11:47] <hosas> get me straight
[11:48] <hosas> EriC^^: I posting it because I think it's just a permission problem
[11:48] <EriC^^> at this point i think it's a logic problem
[11:49] <EriC^^> if you want him to be able to write in the dir, and read a file, then he can obviously read it and make another file that has its contents
[11:49] <hosas> EriC^^:  a program with-read/write/execute permission to a given folder
[11:50] <hosas> EriC^^: thanks that's what I think but I needed to be sure
[11:50] <EriC^^> hosas: np, if you want more confirmation on the subject join ##linux and ask them there, they're very experienced in stuff like this
[11:51] <hosas> EriC^^: thanks a lot. I would do that
[11:54] <dbedrenko> Hello, how is it possible that 14.04 LTS was released in 04.2014 but still has GCC v4.8 that came out a year before that, despite EOL for Trusty being 2019?! Why hasn't gcc been updated to at least v5? There was plenty of time...
[11:59] <dbedrenko> In 2014 the GCC released (4.8) was already late by a year, so how come it hasn't been update in the last 3 years?
[12:04] <TomyWork> dbedrenko 14.04 is LTS. if you want current versions, dont use LTS
[12:04] <TomyWork> or use a ppa (unsupported) or docker container (unsupported)
[12:04] <dbedrenko> TomyWork: does LTS mean the versions of software used are frozen?
[12:04] <dbedrenko> for the lifetime of the Ubuntu release?
[12:04] <TomyWork> at some point, most of the software is frozen, yes
[12:04] <dbedrenko> I see, thanks for the info
[12:04] <TomyWork> except for fixes of course
[12:05] <TomyWork> new features introduce new bugs, so that is exactly what you want in an LTS release
[12:06] <TomyWork> if you want current versions all the time and dont care about bugs, use arch or something
[12:07] <TomyWork> dbedrenko this is especially true for a core component like the compiler
[12:08] <TomyWork> think about it, if you suddenly have a newer gcc, kernel modules you build might behave differently from when they were tested with 14.04
[12:08] <TomyWork> and that's just what gets built on *your* system. what about the rest of the system?
[12:08] <dbedrenko> TomyWork: Our Jenkins server at work is 14.04 so I'm annoyed that we cannot update GCC to v5+ in order to use C++14
[12:09] <TomyWork> the rest of the system is built on some ubuntu 14.04 machine too. how do you deal with that? do you update every single package once you update the compiler?
[12:09] <ducasse> dbedrenko: then use 16.04 instead
[12:10] <TomyWork> dbedrenko what ducasse said, but you can probably get away with a ppa
[12:10] <ducasse> sure, but that's not supported :)
 or use a ppa (unsupported) or docker container (unsupported)
[12:11] <TomyWork> ducasse neither is jenkins anyway :)
[12:12] <ducasse> fair point :) making sure the release underneath is is still a good idea, though
[12:12] <dbedrenko> The person in charge of the Jenkins server doesn't want to upgrade... it's too much or some such, or it could break other things :/
[12:12] <TomyWork> dbedrenko how many jenkins nodes are there?
[12:13] <dbedrenko> TomyWork: I don't know, but there's a single server and some clients, and the client is where my software is built
[12:13] <TomyWork> you mean a master and some slaves?
[12:13] <dbedrenko> I'm a novice with Jenkins
[12:13] <TomyWork> so, update one slave, see if it works
[12:13] <warri0rr> You might want to check out #jenkins
[12:14] <hosas> EriC^^: someone suggested apparmor but they didn't response to my misgivings. do you think apparmor can be the solution. I don't know much about apparmor or its limitations
[12:14] <TomyWork> ah, the usual bystander who has not said anything for the day, thanks for the comment, warri0rr
[12:14] <warri0rr> I've just connected
[12:14] <TomyWork> dbedrenko a jenkins master running on ubuntu 14.04 (or windows, for that matter :P) has no issue communicating with a jenkins slave running on ubuntu 16.04
[12:15] <EriC^^> hosas: i dont know much about it tbh
[12:16] <TomyWork> dbedrenko or, you could get a new VM with 16.04, make it a jenkins slave, restrict your builds to that slave. once satisfied with the result, remove the old jenkins slave
[12:16] <hosas> EriC^^: thanks
[12:17] <TomyWork> dbedrenko hope this helps
[12:17] <ducasse> hosas: from reading above, i doubt it. afaik apparmor also uses the regular permissions as-is
[12:18] <ducasse> hosas: ie, you specify file restrictions in the same way
[12:18] <hosas> ducasse: so it's not possible?
[12:18] <ducasse> hosas: not afaik
[12:19] <ducasse> hosas: maybe with selinux, not familiar with it but it does things differently
[12:19] <dbedrenko> TomyWork: yeah thanks, he is having none of it, and lambasting me for even suggesting it
[12:20] <TomyWork> dbedrenko did you suggest the ppa yet?
[12:21] <hosas> ducasse: heard about it- it's tricky and hard to work with- I lazily installed it once and had no idea what it was doing-it was messing with my system
[12:21] <hosas> but thanks
[12:21] <ducasse> hosas: yeah, you need to do quite a bit of reading to work with it
[12:21] <dbedrenko> TomyWork: it didn't even get that far, he just said we're not updating until there's a "real" need
[12:23] <TomyWork> dbedrenko https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-toolchain-r/+archive/ubuntu/test here's one... ymmv as-is, no support etc pp
[12:27] <theablestman> hi gm
[12:28] <theablestman> im updating for 14 to 16 how do i get to 17?
[12:28] <ducasse> !upgrade | theablestman
[12:28] <theablestman> k
[12:28] <theablestman> ty
[12:33] <theablestman> 16.04 is lts?
[12:34] <ducasse> yes
[12:34] <theablestman> k
[12:34] <TomyWork> $((i*2)).04
[12:34] <theablestman> ill stick with 16 then
[12:35] <TomyWork> (for integer i >= at least 5)
[12:35] <__marcus> sup
[12:35] <theablestman> hey
[12:38] <nemo> So... my coworker has finally solved the "ubuntu locks up his machine randomly or 100% on closing lid when using latest release" on his Inspiron 5565
[12:39] <__marcus> so what was a problem?
[12:39] <nemo> Aaaand the fix waaas.  Fall back to ubuntu 14.04 - which is what I run on everything 😉
[12:39] <nemo> __marcus: well the actual problem is still some WTF w/ ACPI or some other insanity in laptop power management
[12:39] <nemo> __marcus: the most annoying part being it corrupting his linux partition 95% of the time when it locked up, forcing a reinstall - he'd done about 20 reinstalls...
[12:40] <nemo> I have no idea why 14.04 is totally fine - could be has had several years to shake out bugs, could be <bias>lackofsystemd</bias>
[12:41] <nemo> but anyway. I was gonna say the https://certification.ubuntu.com/hardware/201606-22367/ is wildly off, and that this laptop is dangerous to install ubuntu on
[12:41] <__marcus> i got a same problem with my lenovo z570 and mint. just freeze like dead when screen light fade down. solve by install ubuntu 14.04
[12:41] <nemo> but. so long as you stick to 14.04 LTS you might be fine
[12:41] <nemo> __marcus: yeah. no idea what'll happen when LTS loses the "S" ☹
[12:41] <nemo> __marcus: hopefully enough people will have been burnt by then that someone will have figured out a fix
[12:43] <__marcus> lol, i crossed fingers when reinstall from 14.04 LTS to 16.04 LTS and it's totaly fine with my bugy laptop
[12:43] <nemo> __marcus: he'd tried 16.04
[12:43] <nemo> several times
[12:43] <boxrick1> Good afternoon peops
[12:44] <boxrick1> Here is a simple question, an Ubuntu USB installer. Is it possible to insert my own pre-seed for it to use similar to how I do when I TFTPboot?
[12:47] <nemo> boxrick1: huh. never tried it, but don't see why not - can just edit the grub cfg no?
[12:49] <nemo> boxrick1: http://blog.p4i1.com/2014/09/unattended-ubuntu-installer-usb-drive.html  random search
[12:49] <nemo> no idea if it's the best writeup
[12:49] <boxrick1> Debian docs indicate I can se preseed.cfg I would assume its the same for Ubuntu
[12:50] <boxrick1> Would also be nice to make the networking persist after the install, ie dump in the initial network config file.
[12:50] <boxrick1> I guess thats a job for postinstall section
[12:52] <nemo> yeh. I imagine
[13:05] <Jonii> Hello. I have 2 monitors, and I want one of them to run at 144hz on Ubuntu 17.04
[13:05] <Jonii> xrandr doesn't seem to do anything
[13:06] <Jonii> xrandr --output monitor-name -r 144 doesn't do anything
[13:08] <h0par> hi
[13:09] <h0par> how `mv` works on longer paths, like `mv a/b/c/1 a/b/c/2`
[13:10] <l1Ll1Ll1L> h0par, that would just move a/b/c/1 to a/b/c/2
[13:10] <h0par> yes, what if I want to skip long part?
[13:11] <l1Ll1Ll1L> then cd to a/b/c
[13:11] <l1Ll1Ll1L> then you can mv 1 2
[13:11] <h0par> no shortcuts like `mv a/b/c/{1 2}` ?
[13:11] <nemo> h0par: bash has that yes
[13:11] <l1Ll1Ll1L> maybe, but I don't known such a one
[13:11] <nemo> glob expansions work too
[13:12] <nemo> h0par: mkdir -p a/b/c/{1,2}
[13:12] <nemo> creates both
[13:12] <h0par> 1,2 are files here
[13:12] <nemo> mv a/b/c/{1,2}
[13:12] <nemo> moves 1 to 2
[13:13] <nemo> since it is just an expansion like globbing
[13:13] <nemo> h0par: whatever.
[13:13] <nemo> h0par: personally I'd suggest cd/pushd tho.  people screw up the {} syntax all the time
[13:13] <nemo> ♥ pushd/popd
[13:13] <nemo> they just require shorter aliases ☺
[13:14] <h0par> nemo: thanks, replace space with , worked just fine
[13:14] <h0par> will look into pushd popd
[13:14] <h0par> thanks everyone
[13:15] <l1Ll1Ll1L> fyi pushd is like cd
[13:15] <l1Ll1Ll1L> except that popd brings you back to where you were
[13:16] <h0par> that's neat, good to know
[13:17] <h0par> I've been using `cd -` but wasn't comfortable
[13:44] <donofrio> anyone have problems with firefox where they cannot download files or install addon's....if so how did you debug it?
[13:45] <donofrio> or how to wfix it ;)
[13:47] <Handle> Hey guy! I want to do an automated installation with a preseed file. However, for the network configuration to work I need to add a default route which netcfg doesn't seem to be capable of.
[13:47] <matti> Handle: Are you going to have catch-22 without this route?
[13:48] <Handle> matti, without that route the VM will have no connection
[13:49] <matti> Handle: But you will be able to fetch preseed?
[13:49] <Handle> yes
[13:49] <matti> If so, then it's easy peasy.
[13:49] <Handle> It's just the simple `ip route add ...` command but I found no way to add that to the preseed file AFTER netcfg ran and BEFORE mirror-select runs
[13:49] <matti> Handle: Google for "d-i preseed/late_command"
[13:50] <matti> Unless you've tried that already.
[13:50] <Handle> matti, as I understand preseed/late_command is run after the installation has mostly finished. Or am I wrong?
[13:51] <matti> Yes.
[13:51] <matti> I see you need something to add route to some sort of an internal Apt mirror?
[13:51] <matti> There is also "d-i preseed/early_command", which runs before the partitioner.
[13:52] <matti> If not that, then let's have a minute to think.
[13:52] <matti> ;]
[13:52] <Handle> Yeah, kind of. So that the installer can access the internet and the apt mirror of my hoster.
[13:53] <matti> Ah, I see.
[13:54] <Handle> preseed_early is too early unfortunately :/ the modules being loaded after that take the interface down and netcfg is being started anyways, even if disabled in the preseed file. That deletes the /etc/resolve.conf I tried to add via preseed_early.
[13:54] <nemo> donofrio: never happened but feels like the sort of thing that might happen if it was being run against a profile in an unprivileged folder?
[13:54] <nemo> donofrio: some sort of user perms craziness.  if it was just addons I'd have other theories, but unable to install files..
[13:55] <nemo> donofrio: or you ran some very aggressive firejail by accident
[13:55] <matti> Handle: Hmm.
[13:55] <matti> Handle: There might be a trick. But rather ugly.
[13:56] <matti> Handle: Also, have you tried to use a proxy?
[13:56] <matti> Handle: The trick might be to inject a small script using preseed_early which will add this route should it not be there and then go to sleep.
[13:56] <matti> Handle: You know... when everything looks like a hammer.
[13:56] <matti> ;]
[13:56] <matti> Dang.
[13:57] <matti> Nail.
[13:57] <matti> LOL
[13:57] <Handle> Yeah haha
[13:57] <Handle> I think I need a script that adds the route when the interface comes up
[13:57] <matti> Yeah.
[13:58] <Handle> And it has to do it twice as far as I see, because of:
[13:58] <Handle> "check-missing-firmware: taking network interface eth0 up/down"
[13:59] <matti> The cleanest would be HTTP proxy for Apt.
[13:59] <matti> But it is also the nestiest :P
[13:59] <matti> The nestiest would be script.
[13:59] <matti> But it's also the cleanest.
[13:59] <matti> LOL
[13:59] <matti> Handle: I wish there was a way to do it without some black magic voodoo.
[13:59] <Handle> Me too
[14:00] <Handle> But I found none :/
[14:01] <matti> Handle: You can totally put this helper script onto the same node as preseed.
[14:01] <matti> Handle: And then just wget/curl/nc it.
[14:02] <Handle> The reason I need the route is I bridge the interfaces of the VMs with my hypervisor and in order to avoid having to generate a virtual mac address inside the webinterface of my account with my hoster I'd like to use the route
[14:02] <matti> I see.
[14:03] <Handle> And doing an install with NAT + DHCP first and then switch back is ugly
[14:03] <Handle> Works good when adding the route manually via shell
[14:04] <matti> I hear you.
[14:04] <matti> It's fine.
[14:04] <matti> Not a crazy use case.
[14:04] <matti> Just not supported.
[14:04] <Handle> Yeah
[14:04] <matti> So one has to be... creative.
[14:04] <matti> This helper can totally be a simple while infinite loop with sleep.
[14:05] <matti> Since if you don't use in-target, then it would run on the installer.
[14:05] <matti> And so who cares? :)
[14:05] <matti> As long as it adds the route back.
[14:05] <Handle> Yeah :) Unfortunately I'm not good with bash scripting :D but I'll have a look
[14:05] <matti> I might have a minute now, one second.
[14:45] <dviola> hi
[14:45] <dviola> any ideas when ubuntu will get the linux kernel 4.12?
[14:46] <dviola> I mean, the current LTS version
[14:46] <hachre> dviola: you can get it from the kernel ppa
[14:47] <dviola> ok, but do you know if it will be available via a regular apt update?
[14:47] <hachre> I don't know when it will be the basis for a ubuntu release
[14:47] <hachre> dviola: usually it would take until the next ubuntu release
[14:47] <dviola> ok, thanks
[14:48] <hachre> dviola: the 17.10 release will have 4.13
[14:48] <dviola> that's good
[14:49] <amaroq> hello
[14:49] <oerheks> !hwe
[14:49] <amaroq> what happened to Unity?
[14:49] <oerheks> hwe does not give 4.12 AFAIK
[14:49] <dviola> thanks
[14:49] <amaroq> !unity
[15:33] <b4r1sr00t> hello everyone. is anybody there who installed epson drivers to raspberry pi?
[15:34] <rud0lf> can i make apt upgrade to force installing/uninstalling packages?
[15:34] <rud0lf> or at last to show me what is needed to be performed?
[15:34] <nacc> rud0lf: what do you mean?
[15:34] <rud0lf> "If an upgrade for a package requires the remove of an installed package the upgrade for this package isn't performed."
[15:34] <oerheks> b4r1sr00t, i never had to .. what model?
[15:35] <nacc> rud0lf: `sudo apt-get dist-upgrade` or `sudo apt full-upgrade`
[15:35] <rud0lf> some libgl-mesa won't install
[15:35] <b4r1sr00t> oerheks: so we have epson l365
[15:35] <rud0lf> hmm it works now, thank you
[15:35] <b4r1sr00t> it works perfectly with l4x drivers on cups
[15:35] <b4r1sr00t> oerheks: but l382 is not working with this driver
[15:36] <b4r1sr00t> i've found couple of drivers about l382 but all for i386 but as you know raspberry pi is arm
[15:37] <oerheks> i checked openprinting, no l382 .. http://www.openprinting.org/printers/manufacturer/Epson/
[15:37] <oerheks> oh
[15:42] <oerheks> b4r1sr00t, no clue there, maybe #ubuntu-arm can help? or ##cups
[15:42] <pokmo> hi
[15:42] <pokmo> i'm trying to launch a GUI in a cronjob. it has been working for the past few months but it suddenly stopped working today
[15:43] <pokmo> i now get the message "Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display: :1"
[15:43] <pokmo> i already have DISPLAY=":1" though
[15:43] <pokmo> does anyone know what might be missing?
[15:47] <donofrio> nemo, I'm WSL win10 w/14.04 and I'm trying to run firefox inside it and want to add my ublock along with tampermonkey....but I just get https://1drv.ms/i/s!AsBlZbBf72iNmtd8kBtELCejsgM8HA
[15:48] <nemo> yeah. I'm not clicking on that
[15:48] <nemo> no idea what it is, but I'm not clicking on it ☺
[15:49] <b4r1sr00t> oerheks: thanks
[15:49] <nemo> also no idea why you pinged me directly
[15:50] <hachre> I took one for the team and opened it
[15:51] <hachre> it's a screenshot hosted on onedrive
[16:06] <oerheks> No.
[16:29] <qswz> hmm is convert a command?
[16:30] <qswz> it seems working on macOS
[16:30] <qswz> 'convet'
[16:30] <qswz> 'convert'
[16:30] <qswz> hmm that's for png processing
[16:32] <qswz> seems an imagemagick thing
[16:36] <raynold> Ahh it's a wonderful day
[16:37] <donofrio> "Kill it, kill it with fire" - I mean what do I do if I cannot kill pid's? https://apaste.info/qzaO
[16:37] <Handle> I'm using s script to run a script in background but the first script hangs
[16:37] <Handle> when it starts the other script
[16:37] <Handle> I call it with
[16:37] <Handle> sh /tmp/route.sh &
[16:38] <Handle> Inside the script
[16:38] <Handle> but that doesn't work as I want
[16:38] <Handle> nohup, screen and disown are not available because it's busybox
[16:40] <pavlos> donofrio: kinda strange that the parent id is 1
[16:48] <nacc> donofrio: is this more WSL?
[16:50] <donofrio> nacc, yes, I restarted my x-session and it kills the defunct pid's...
[16:50] <nacc> donofrio: I don't think we can support WSL
[16:50] <nacc> donofrio: and i feel like I say this every time :)
[16:51] <donofrio> well the 10 lurker's and the one active user seems like alot to say when you have 1100+ folks here who might be running wsl but are here because 14.04 is 14.04....but that is just why I am here (I mean I run bare metal installs of ubuntu but my daily use is WSL
[16:52] <nacc> donofrio: not sure what the user count has to do with anything. WSL is a Microsoft product (afaict) and 14.04 in WSL is not 14.04 (afaict).
[16:53] <nacc> donofrio: e.g., what pavlos just said, it's weird to see firefox owned by root
[16:54] <donofrio> that was me trying to see if it was right or not that was keeping me from being able to download or install addon's so I "had to test" hence the root owned pid...
[16:54] <nacc> err, not root, sorry, but parented off of init
[16:54] <nacc> donofrio: interesting
[16:55] <pavlos> donofrio: find .mozilla/ -name "*lock" and rm those files (there should be a lock and a .parentlock
[16:55] <nacc> donofrio: so, a cursory google shows: https://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/commandline/wsl/faq and "WSL does not aim to support GUI desktops or applications (e.g. Gnome, KDE, etc.) ".
[16:55] <nacc> donofrio: seems like your problems are with Microsoft not Ubuntu :)
[16:56] <oerheks> only if this is reproducable, firefox issue ?
[16:57] <donofrio> nacc, it's even better, we only have 1603 build's for our "corp image" and sooo much hsa been fixed in 1704...but I'm stuck with this build as it's our corp image for win10
[16:57] <nacc> donofrio: ugh :)
[16:58] <nacc> donofrio: i know it exited Beta recently, but I also know enough about what they are implementing that it's not "just Ubuntu" afaict. A VM running in Windows would be more supportable than the WSL stuff (again, my opinion/my impression)
[16:58] <donofrio> and by build I mean windows10 creator update not ubuntu goodness (even though in creator update includes 16.04 instead)
[16:58] <bub_> Hi, following https://tutorials.ubuntu.com/tutorial/create-your-first-snap#0 .. and it's not working.. anyone else had any problem at all with this tutorial? "hello" doesn't run after I've installed the snap
[16:58] <nacc> bub_: #snappy
[16:58] <bub_> dankeschon!
[16:58] <nacc> bub_: np
[17:24] <moh_maya> hello, I have a peculiar problem accessing the nvidia website from Ubuntu / Firefox (that I'm not encountering on Windows). I think this is because of an SSL certificate issue. Has anyone else encountered this issue? When I try to fetch the page (https://www.nvidia.com) on curl, I get the following error: "curl: (35) Unknown SSL protocol error in connection to developer.nvidia.com:443 " ; I...
[17:24] <moh_maya> ...don't get this error if I try another website, say https://www.amd.com or https://www.google.co.uk . Not sure what the issue is, or what I can do to try and fix it.
[17:27] <afox> their site isn't properly validated SSL wise. http://www.nvidia.co.uk/content/includes/images/redesign08/background_gradient.gif is being loaded while on https
[17:27] <afox> though I'm not sure if thats the problem you're having
[17:28] <moh_maya> @afox, thanks! the issue is, I'm not able to access the driver page, or the CUDA download page..
[17:28] <moh_maya> its not a big deal; I can download on windows and install on ubuntu. Just, I don't get why the site is working on Chrome/Firefox on Windows, but is failing on Ubuntu. Just, annoying.
[17:29] <qswz> Someone with trusty? can you tell me which package suggest convert? imagemagick-6.q16 is only for 17.04
[17:29] <oerheks> moh_maya, try curl http://www.nvidia.com/page/home.html ( proper name)
[17:32] <moh_maya> @oerheks: thanks! Trying. So, unable to load this URL on firefox, and curl is just...stuck after the initial "handshake"(??), at this point "user-agent: curl/7.52.1 ; Accept: */*
[17:32] <moh_maya> if it helps, I am on 17.04, running on a Ryzen 5 with an nVidia GTX1070..
[17:33] <oerheks> moh_maya, are you behind a proxy perhaps?
[17:33] <ioria> qswz, convert is a command of imagemagick ... what's the problem ?
[17:34] <moh_maya> pretty sure I'm not. I haven't set up one. Plus, wouldn't the proxy be affecting the site access from both Windows as well as Ubuntu?  I'm able to access the site from Windows
[17:40] <ioria> moh_maya, have you tried to force ssl  ?
[17:41] <moh_maya> on curl? I thought it would default to SSL when I use https. In the browser, I've tried to load the website using https://www.nvidia.com or https://www.developer.nvidia.com . No luck..
[17:43] <t0th_-> hi, how i can prevent to ubuntu 17.04 mount my device(cell phone) ?
[17:46] <ioria> moh_maya, https://stackoverflow.com/questions/3234140/curl-error-35-unknown-ssl-protocol-error-in-connection
[17:46] <Handle> when I run a script with the preseed/early_command the whole installation hangs, even though it should run in background
[17:46] <Handle> Does anyone have a clue why?
[17:47] <moh_maya> @ioria, thanks!
[17:47] <ioria> moh_maya,  gl
[17:47] <Handle> It contains an infinite while loop
[17:48] <Handle> apparently running it in background doesn't work for some reason :/
[17:49] <nacc> Handle: pastebin your preseed and script?
[17:49] <nacc> Handle: i'm not sure if the shell (sh, e.g.) has job control in the installer
[17:50] <Handle> mac_nibblet, https://paste.debian.net/979224/
[17:50] <Handle> when I run it manually via "sh /tmp/route.sh &" it goes into background
[17:50] <Handle> Or I can put ( ) around and an & at the end
[17:51] <Handle> then sh /tmp/route.sh is enoguh for it to run in background
[17:51] <Handle> I'm speaking of the shell of the installer
[17:51] <Handle> but when it is called via preseed/early_command it stops the whole installation until I press STRG + C
[17:52] <Ben64> that script is bad
[17:52] <Handle> I'm a noob
[17:52] <Handle> :x
[17:53] <Handle> I know it's a hack but there seems to be no way to add a route any other way within the install routine
[17:53] <Ben64> it doesn't need to be an infinite loop
[17:54] <moh_maya> @ioria no luck... Even a wget command to download drivers isn't working
[17:54] <Handle> Ben64 well, netcfg deletes every route later
[17:54] <Handle> If there was a way to run a script right after netcfg I wouldn't need any loop, yes
[17:55] <Handle> But I found none :/
[17:55] <Handle> preseed/late_command is too late
[17:57] <Handle> unfortunately even with netcfg being disabled in the preseed file it is still called, therefore deleting routes and /etc/resolve.conf
[17:59] <Ben64> why not just break out of the loop after you set route
[18:02] <Handle> Ben64 at the point the script is called there is no route to set because the interface is down
[18:06] <Ben64> Handle: right
[18:24] <monk12> hey all, so my Ubuntu VirtualBox VM (in Bridged Networking) suddenly stopped getting an IP on the enp0s3 interface...
[18:24] <monk12> i tried to manually create the Bridge via this article: https://major.io/2015/03/26/creating-a-bridge-for-virtual-machines-using-systemd-networkd/
[18:25] <monk12> but they specify the ip ADDRESS in their br0.network file. but im not sure if that ip is available... can i specific DHCP in that file instead of manually specifying a static address?
[18:29] <oerheks> sounds like your host gives a problem?
[18:35] <monk12> oerheks: possibly ... For now, im going to turn off systemd-networkd which i enabled and re-enable NetworkManager which i had turned off to see if i can get custom networking scripts to work.
[18:37] <monk12> at worst, maybe i turn on NAT mode on the VM to see if that works temporarily
[18:45] <qorpus> Hi there,  I have a 17.04 machine and I am trying to install openjdk-8-jdk, but when I run apt install it gives me ->  https://thepasteb.in/p/g5hPQMnEJmqir
[18:46] <qorpus> which is super confusing because I have done it on other 17.04 machines with no hassle
[18:47] <texla> To use Samba as a storage device which app should be used commom etc
[18:48] <eraggo> qorpus: is there special reason why you are installing openjdk-8?
[18:48] <oerheks> !info openjdk-8
[18:48] <oerheks> !info info openjdk-8-jdk
[18:48] <oerheks> !info openjdk-8-jdk
[18:49] <oerheks> odd, did you run update before installing?
[18:49] <qorpus> yeah I did
[18:49] <oerheks> there has been an update today, i have noticed
[18:49] <qorpus> we use openjdk for all our work
[18:50] <qorpus> so, to maintain consistency - need it working on this machine too!
[18:52] <eraggo> so; can you try just to install packages apt gave you and see if them help?
[18:52] <oerheks> what gives: apt-cache search openjdk-8-jdk
[18:53] <qorpus> if a grab the 17:04 docker image and try it out it works fine: https://thepasteb.in/p/58hgNBONv70sv
[18:53] <qorpus> may have missed a few messages @oreheks
[18:54] <oerheks> maybe updates are held back, sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade
[18:55] <Dexter_F> hi
[18:56] <Dexter_F> brother printer/scanner combo, set this up in suse and older ubuntus, now on 16.04LTS followed the usualy steps but xsane says: "no device". I think I'm missing something, but can't put my finger on it
[18:56] <qorpus> mmm still nothing
[18:56] <Dexter_F> I'd rule out dev perms, since xsane as root does not see it either
[19:00] <qorpus> i know whats happening @oerheks
[19:01] <featherfeet> When Ubuntu moves away from Unity and back to GNOME, will Ubuntu GNOME be discontinued as an official "flavor?"
[19:01] <qorpus> im missing a ton of apt repos: https://thepasteb.in/p/O7h5QWo8D66Cq
[19:02] <oerheks> qorpus, oh right, go into softwarecenter/sources and enable them again :-D
[19:02] <oerheks> good find
[19:03] <oerheks> featherfeet, ubuntu-gnome > ubuntu .. yeah, that would be logical
[19:03] <A1Recon> For some reason any time i try to install anything using apt using the command "sudo apt install <package_name>", i get, "Unable to locate package <package_name>"
[19:04] <A1Recon> I am running UBuntu 16.04 LTS
[19:05] <oerheks> A1Recon, can you paste an example? paste.ubuntu.com
[19:05] <Bashing-om> A1Recon: Pastebin ' sudo apt update ' .
[19:05] <A1Recon> Bashing-om, already did that. Nothing. No changes
[19:06] <oerheks> let us see..
[19:08] <A1Recon> oerheks, Bashing-om http://paste.ubuntu.com/25221816/
[19:09] <A1Recon> Output for apt update, apt list --upgradable, apt install gpredict, apt upgrade
[19:09] <oerheks> run sudo apt full-upgrade to get those packages too
[19:10] <texla> To use Samba as a storage device which app should be used common etc
[19:11] <Bashing-om> !info gpredict xenial
[19:11] <A1Recon> oerheks, also i have been getting these when software updater runs http://imgur.com/a/3LLn2
[19:12] <A1Recon> i haven't run the sudo apt full-upgrade yet... should i do it?
[19:12] <oerheks> that is normal,. same result as the text
[19:12] <A1Recon> okay running sudo apt full-upgrade
[19:12] <oerheks> run the command i gave, reboot required, and then run updates again
[19:13] <A1Recon> oerheks, yes captain
[19:13] <A1Recon> wait it didnt say anything about reboot
[19:14] <A1Recon> oerheks, output of full-upgrade http://paste.ubuntu.com/25221842/
[19:15] <oerheks> Known issue, you don' t see that in terminal, check if the file /var/run/reboot-required exists or not:: file /var/run/reboot-required
[19:16] <oerheks> looks good
[19:16] <oerheks> ( good to see that the india in. repo is up2date )
[19:18] <A1Recon> oerheks, nope
[19:18] <A1Recon> reboot-required doesn't exist...
[19:18] <oerheks> i would, with those mesa
[19:19] <A1Recon> oerheks, okay then initiating reboot. going AFK for about 3-5 minutes.
[19:19] <oerheks> :-)
[19:19] <A1Recon> also hey SonikkuAmerica
[19:20] <Menzador> Yeah, rebranded my persona
[19:20] <Menzador> aaaaaaaaaand he's gone
[19:20] <oerheks> fluffybunnyfufu
[19:20] <Menzador> Lolz that's me all right
[19:20]  * Menzador bops oerheks on the head
[19:21] <Menzador> I think LinStatSDR's bop count is the highest though :)
[19:23] <qorpus> so @oerheks, I was missing the repos from /etc/apt/sources.list -> so replaced them in there, but also I had to remove the preferences.d/zesty as well
[19:23] <qorpus> to get it to pickup everything
[19:23] <qorpus> now I have a crap ton of updates
[19:23] <A1Recon> oerheks, still the same problem...
[19:23] <A1Recon> :(
[19:25] <Bashing-om> A1Recon: Show us in a pastie ' sudo apt install gpredict  ' . See where we go from there .
[19:27] <A1Recon> Bashing-om, http://paste.ubuntu.com/25221909/
[19:27] <oerheks> universe not enabled in sources, i guess
[19:28] <A1Recon> oerheks, want me to paste the sources.list ?
[19:28] <oerheks> no, check it yourself in your sources ??
[19:28] <oerheks> really easy to check
[19:31] <texla> To use Samba as a storage device which app should be used common etc
[19:33] <BluesKaj> A1Recon, look in your package manager , tecnnical details>component
[19:33] <A1Recon> oerheks, universe is selected...
[19:39] <monk12> think i solved my 'networking in VM not' working issue... docker apparently creates its own network that conflcits with the Bridged networking i had setup for the VirtualBox VM
[19:40] <oerheks> A1Recon, odd, then i have no clue other than change mirror to main in softwaresources..
[19:54] <A1Recon> oerheks, Bashing-om BluesKaj i have Synaptic. And instead of googling for "e: unable to locate package" i googled for "partial upgrade ubuntu" and i got this https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1858494
[19:55] <konrados> I would like to give an access to a friend (via ssh) to a computer in my network, which (the computer) is connected via wifi - is this even possible?
[19:56] <konrados> oh, the friend is on the internet, i.e. outside lan
[19:56] <Handle> konrados, yes
[19:56] <konrados> Handle, oh, how?
[19:56] <Handle> forward the port to your computer inside your router
[19:57] <Handle> konrados, forward the port to your computer inside your router
[20:00] <konrados> Handle, I got disconnected (again, damn it) - lost your messages - maybe I'll try again with my initial problem - my sister's pc connects via wifi just fine, but not with the cable - any suggestions?
[20:01] <konrados> sec...
[20:01] <Handle> maybe the dhcp configuration doesn't work on the ethernet interface
[20:03] <t0th_-> hi, how i can prevent to ubuntu 17.04 mount my device(cell phone) ?
[20:03] <thepardoxer02> i am trying to make a permanent environment variable in ubuntu. i tried exporting the variable, added the lines in the end of "~./bashrc" file but as soon as i am exiting the terminal my env variables are not set
[20:03] <thepardoxer02> i need some help to resolve it ?
[20:05] <A1Recon> oerheks, it works now...
[20:06] <A1Recon> i think i just ran sudo apt -f install
[20:07] <A1Recon> followed by  sudo apt update and sudo apt upgrade
[20:09] <oerheks> A1Recon, good you solved it
[20:10] <altendky> i am trying to connect from kubuntu 16.04 through a tp-link nat/router to a sonicwall vpn (possibly behind a nat, i don't presently know).  i was able to at least get a success message from `ipsec up sonicwall` when i connected ubuntu without the nat (other config) but just get retries when behind the nat.  do i need to manually configure anything on the nat?  other ideas?
[20:10] <altendky> https://gist.github.com/altendky/695aa734befe91228645f34e9594f2b2
[20:10] <altendky> presently trying to be like alice from https://www.strongswan.org/testing/testresults/ikev2/nat-rw-psk/
[20:11] <altendky> thepardoxer02: have you logged out and back in?  i'm not certain but i think that may be when .bashrc is processed by default.
[20:12] <altendky> thepardoxer02: https://askubuntu.com/a/58828/185872
[20:14] <konrados> Handle, this is my dhcp config, sorry for it being pdf, but I had troubles making it an image - https://files.fm/u/mgvddnvm#/view/FireShot+Capture+5+-+Livebox+-+http___192.168.1.1_advConfigNetworkDhcp.html.pdf
[20:14] <konrados> Handle, the pc in question is the one - 192.16.1.14
[20:15] <Handle> Okay
[20:15] <Handle> Configuration looks good
[20:15] <Handle> I think it's some issue with the pc of your sister
[20:16] <konrados> Handle, but... it worked well with Windows...
[20:16] <konrados> let me reconnect all the cables and switches
[20:16] <glitsj16> t0th_-: do you mean you don't want it to auto-mount? If so, you could add the device to /etc/fstab and use the 'noauto' option
[20:16] <Handle> Maybe it's a simple problem with the cabling, yes
[20:17] <Handle> Inside the web interfaces of most routers you can see when there is a successful ethernet link
[20:17] <rfleming> Greetings!
[20:19] <rfleming> I've a question on creating a derivative.  Since UCK is discontinued, and Remastersys no longer supports Ubuntu; are there any other tools besides doing it the manual way?
[20:20] <rfleming> I just want to create a gag derivative where I change the Ubuntu name to a friends nickname (which he doesn't like so much) :)
[20:20] <saulus> Hi, I have set up autofs for nfs and now my system waits 90 seoncds at boot time.Do you have any idea how to make the boot up fast again?
[20:20] <ecart> Can someone here help me recompile the kernel?
[20:20] <oerheks> rfleming, maybe you can tweak it with cubic, https://askubuntu.com/questions/741753/how-to-use-cubic-to-create-a-custom-ubuntu-live-cd-image
[20:21] <konrados> Handle, no, resetted everything :(
[20:22] <konrados> to no avail :(
[20:22] <konrados> that is making me crazy
[20:22] <Handle> konrados, does the network card have a link?
[20:23] <ecart> Hello, I have an android emulator for windows.
[20:23] <ecart> 1 more of my applications updated and now it says it can not be installed because the device is an emulator.
[20:23] <ecart> How can I fine-tune this to continue using the application normally?
[20:23] <oerheks> ecart, how is this related to ubuntu support?
[20:23] <ecart> kernel
[20:23] <ecart> ?
[20:24] <oerheks> nope, android kernel is not our business
[20:24] <ecart> sorry
[20:24] <rfleming> Thanks oerheks
[20:24] <rfleming> Will look into it
[20:24] <konrados> Handle, I have heard this question before, I would love to just give an access to this pc to someone, like you, just don't know how?
[20:24] <ecart> ok
[20:24] <Handle> konrados, her pc runs ubuntu?
[20:24] <konrados> Handle, I just don't know what you mean by 'have a link to card' :( :(
[20:25] <konrados> Handle, yes
[20:25] <Handle> If the connection is active
[20:25] <konrados> not sure if is is or not ...
[20:25] <Handle> some network cards have leds to indicate that
[20:25] <konrados> she works now on wifi
[20:25] <ecart> I just said because maybe someone will be able to help me continue using the application
[20:25] <Handle> your router should show it
[20:25] <rfleming> ecart: try #linux
[20:25] <ecart> ok
[20:25] <ecart> thank
[20:25] <rfleming> or #android
[20:26] <Handle> konrados, look inside your routers web interface
[20:26] <konrados> Handle, I'm there now what?
[20:26] <Handle> look for LAN or Ethernet connections
[20:27] <Handle> within the webinterface of my router I can see active lan connections
[20:27] <Handle> separetly from the wifi connections
[20:28] <Handle> *separatly
[20:28] <Handle> *e
[20:28] <Handle> lol
[20:29] <rfleming> oerheks: weird, I create a project, and I can't type anything into the fields.
[20:29] <konrados> Handle, this is the main screen of my router, 'Konrad' being my pc, there is no 192.168.1.14 which is my sister's pc
[20:29] <konrados> https://files.fm/u/fcrcff99#/view/FireShot+Capture+6+-+Livebox+-+http___192.168.1.1_.pdf
[20:29] <konrados> sec
[20:30] <Handle> wired network is the one you're looking for
[20:30] <rfleming> welp... brb
[20:31] <Handle> konrados, your sisters PC will get another IP when connected via cable than when she's connected via wifi
[20:31] <Handle> what is PC19?
[20:35] <ppw> how do I boot into a ncurses installer with Ubuntu 18.04?
[20:35] <ppw> I mean 17.04
[20:37] <ppw> does the standard ISO even have a text-based installer?
[20:38] <nacc> ppw: i believe you can pass 'text' to the installer?
[20:39] <Richard_Cavell> Is there an easy way at the command line to see how much RAM I have installed?  Or even explain how many RAM sticks I have and how much is in each?
[20:40] <Bashing-om> Richard_Cavell: ' sudo dmidecode -t memory ' .
[20:41] <Richard_Cavell> Bashing-om: Thank you, that's terrific
[20:42] <Bashing-om> Richard_Cavell: Glad2help ;)
[20:42] <qorpus> oerheks: all fixed, thanks so much for your help!
[20:43] <Richard_Cavell> Turns out my 'puter can take another gig (I bought this one second hand).
[20:43] <oerheks> qorpus, have fun!
[20:44] <Bashing-om> Richard_Cavell: :) No such thing as too much ram . Give it all it will take .
[20:45] <fantastic001> I am trying to access VPN server but I get input/output error in a log of openvpn
[20:45] <fantastic001> tap device input/output error (code=5)
[20:45] <fantastic001> does anyone know how to solve this?
[20:46] <fantastic001> config should work since it is provided to me and it generally works
[20:54] <t0th_-> hi, how i can prevent to ubuntu 17.04 mount my device(cell phone) ?
[20:54] <pwqpol> through autostart maybe?
[20:55] <oerheks> t0th_-, read back, someone mentioned fstab and no auto something
[20:55] <oerheks> that happens when you post in multiple channels or walk away
[20:56] <rfleming> Hi again
[21:01] <glitsj16> t0th_-: maybe this can help https://askubuntu.com/questions/868098/disable-automount-of-a-specific-mtp-device
[21:01] <konrados> Handle, "PC19" is my father's pc, which he has just disconnected please.....
[21:01] <konrados> It's a small family network, Handle
[21:02] <Handle> konrados, is there a way to connect your sisters pc directly via cable?
[21:03] <Handle> Is it connected to a switch?
[21:03] <konrados> Handle, physically - yes, it is connected via cable just that this damn ubuntu doesn't see it .... !!!!
[21:04] <konrados> Handle, my sister's PC is connected to a switch which is connected to a switch which is connected to the route, nothing uncommon .... is it?
[21:04] <Handle> no, it's not uncommon
[21:05] <konrados> yeah
[21:05] <Handle> What do the leds on the switch indicate?
[21:05] <konrados> So, the sister's pc doesn't see the cable connection
[21:05] <Handle> do they light up?
[21:05] <konrados> Handle, they behave like there was a connection
[21:05] <konrados> sec...
[21:06] <konrados> Handle, it's a very cheap 'edimax switch' - those leds light up and down quite randomly :)
[21:07] <konrados> or, I just can't see  the pattern
[21:07] <Handle> they blink when there is traffic
[21:07] <glitsj16> t0th_-: it all depends on how you want your device to act really.. go with the above link to *never* automount, but afaict this would not show your device in file managers.. if you want to see it (as unmounted but mountable when clicked) then adding an entree to /etc/fstab would be more appropriate..
[21:08] <konrados> Handle, the 3th slot is light on steadily - i.e. it's still turned on
[21:08] <[n0mad]> my phone controls whether it's mountable or not
[21:08] <Handle> konrados, is that the one your sisters pc is connected to?
[21:08] <konrados> Handle, *everyone* is connected to it
[21:09] <konrados> Only she has problems
[21:09] <Handle> the slot
[21:09] <Handle> not the switch
[21:09] <konrados> Handle, I tried changing it
[21:09] <glitsj16> [n0mad]: oh, did I target the wrong nick?
[21:09] <solars> hey, can anyone tell me how to add source code pro fonts so I can see it in xlsfonts? Want to use it in the console
[21:09] <[n0mad]> no glitsj16 i was just commenting
[21:09] <Handle> Do the leds on the port her pc is connected to blink?
[21:09] <Handle> or just light up steadily?
[21:09] <konrados> Handle, sec
[21:10] <glitsj16> [n0mad]: np, t0th_- seems to do credit to his nickname, sorry for the confusion
[21:30] <JeevesMoss> has anyone hit this bug yet when trying to install mongoDB?  "insserv: warning: script 'K01mongodb' missing LSB tags and overrides"
[21:37] <oerheks> "they just mean that the special new tags have not yet been added to the boot scripts"
[21:37] <oerheks> JeevesMoss, is this on 16.04?
[21:38] <nacc> oerheks: being resolved in #ubuntu-server
[21:38] <oerheks> ah oke
[21:48] <reedjc> using ubuntu network boot installer.  I pressed shirt-alt-F4 to get to the logging console but now cannot figure out how to get to the installer console. Any ideas? (I tried Alt+F1-F12  F7 is just a cursor.)
[21:48] <reedjc> install is for 16.04
[21:50] <konrados> Handle, I will connect the sister's pc directly to the router tomorrow, hoping you'll be here, I'm so damn tired of this :(
[21:50] <oerheks> Error messages and logs are redirected to the fourth console. You can access this console by pressing
[21:50] <oerheks> Left Alt-F4 (hold the left Alt key while pressing the F4 function key); get back to the main installer
[21:50] <oerheks> process with Left Alt-F1.
[21:50] <Handle> konrados, I don't think it's an ubuntu issue, normally networking works out of the box
[21:50] <Handle> like the wifi connection
[21:51] <konrados> Handle, yes, I did check the cables with my 10$ cable checker - they work :)
[21:52] <konrados> let me check sth
[21:52] <konrados> I have a netbook :)
[21:53] <oerheks> plugging both ends in your router is a dirty trick
[21:53] <reedjc> Yes I find the logs. I am stuck there   It displayes ^[[25~ when I press left-alt+F1
[21:53] <reedjc> Only thing that works is changing from 4 to 7 to 4.
[21:53] <konrados> Handle, nvm, I used to have a netbook, don't have it anymore :)
[21:53] <oerheks> reedjc, try pressing tab first?
[21:54] <oerheks> reedjc, or ctrl c .. dunno if you can escape this
[21:54] <konrados> Handle, very much thank you for your assistance up to now :)
[21:55] <reedjc> tab doesn't help.  Note when I press Alt-F2 it shows ^[[26~   ALt-F3 shows nothing.  Alt-F5 shows ^@
[21:56] <reedjc> what is purpose of showing running logs on a virtual console if Icannot get back.   (It had worked with some old version for me as that is how I knew about it).
[21:57] <oerheks> reedjc, i am baffled too :-D
[21:57] <reedjc> Been a couple hours installing and I don't want to restart when the logging stops. :)
[22:01] <saulus> I have nfs added to fstab and now my boot time icreased by 90 seconds. How can I fix that?
[22:01] <ppw> nacc: doesn't work. I don't think the standard ISO has the text-based installer.
[22:03] <N9NU> can someone please tell me where the Plymouth 'plugins' are located or where they are to be installed to
[22:04] <N9NU> ../usr/local/plymouth/
[22:04] <N9NU> has the themes
[22:09] <nacc> ppw: server installer might, not sure if the desktop one does (would be sort of weird for it to be ther)
[22:10] <ppw> nacc: why weird ... dude ... Debian has it since forever
[22:10] <ppw> nacc: and server installer doesn't include the desktop in its install
[22:10] <nacc> ppw: ubuntu != debian
[22:10] <ppw> orly?
[22:10] <nacc> ppw: i'm just guessing, though
[22:10] <ppw> I am saying the *Debian installer* has the text-mode installer included in the default ISO
[22:11] <nacc> ppw: the installer of Debian?
[22:11] <nacc> ppw: what does that matter to Ubuntu?
[22:11] <ppw> yes
[22:11] <ppw> why have two separate ISOs for two different installers ... you know what ... let's not get into that
[22:12] <nacc> if you want a text-based installer, use the server iso and install packages as necessary
[22:12] <nacc> the minimal installer is also probably text-based
[22:14] <sunatsea> Hi room my dedicated server is not offering me Open GL 3D Rendering unfortunately, I have tried everything.. could someone please assist me? I'm looking for a remote technician to help me with this, I have been trying for days.. I'd happily pay $300 for a working solution to my problem! (Making OpenGL 3D enabled)
[22:17] <reedjc> when I press Alt-F2 it shows ^[[26~   ALt-F3 shows nothing.  Alt-F5 shows ^@
[22:18] <reedjc> This Dell Inspiron (barnd new) has function keys also with these function keys. So I hold Fn key and Alt key and F1 and it worked -- back to installer.
[22:18] <oerheks> ah FN key, good find
[22:26] <kristhian> question i did a sudo do-release-upgrade and apt-get update
[22:26] <kristhian> and this happens
[22:26] <kristhian> http://paste.ubuntu.com/25222892/
[22:27] <kristhian> how do i fix that?
[22:28] <glitsj16> saulus: Can you show your /etc/fstab entree for the NFS share? Also, do you have NetworkManager-wait-online.service enabled?
[22:36] <swift110> hey all
[22:52] <kristhian> i have encountered another problem
[22:53] <kristhian> not just with a broken apt-update
[22:53] <kristhian> but now my computer says that i have a low graphic card
[22:53] <kristhian> and that i have to fix this manually
[22:54] <Jordan_U> kristhian: Do you still have the output from do-release-upgrade?
[22:54] <kristhian> Jordan_U: no
[22:54] <kristhian> i can't return from gui, just running tty
[22:56] <kristhian> i can show it to you, but i have to do the command again and quit irssi first
[22:57] <tomreyn> you can always pipe command outputs to: nc termbin.com 9999
[22:58] <tomreyn> ...as long as the internet connection works
[22:58] <Jordan_U> kristhian: Please pastebin the contents of /var/log/dist-upgrade/apt.log .
[22:58] <kristhian> ok let me back a bit
[22:59] <kristhian> because when i reboot i can't connect with gui, i have to quit irssi first
[22:59] <Jordan_U> kristhian: Wait a second.
[22:59] <kristhian> it says that my computer is running in a low graphics card
[22:59] <kristhian> ok
[23:01] <Jordan_U> kristhian: Do you already have pastebinit installed?
[23:01] <kristhian> yes
[23:02] <Jordan_U> kristhian: In irssi, run "/exec -out pastebinit /var/log/dist-upgrade/apt.log" which should pastebin that file and post the link to the file into this channel for us to see.
[23:02] <kristhian> oh
[23:02] <kristhian> that's useful
[23:02] <kristhian> ok
[23:03] <kristhian> http://paste.ubuntu.com/25223108/
[23:04] <tomreyn> you can also use ctrl-alt-f1..f6 to switch between ttys
[23:05] <Jordan_U> kristhian: "/exec -out pastebinit /var/log/dist-upgrade/main.log"
[23:06] <kristhian> tomreyn: ok copy that as well
[23:06] <kristhian> i need to add this to my knowledge base
[23:07] <kristhian> http://paste.ubuntu.com/25223121/
[23:08] <swift110> hwy akk
[23:09] <Exterminador> hello guys.. even knowing tthat isn't very safe, i've decided to install Flash Player with the command 'apt install adobe-flashplugin'. but somehow seems it dont get applied. what am i missing? thanks in advance
[23:10] <Jordan_U> Exterminador: What is your end goal?
[23:11] <Exterminador> i need it to use with LightIRC chat.
[23:13] <Jordan_U> Exterminador: Why not use https://www.mibbit.com/ or one of the many other IRC clients that don't require flash?
[23:14] <Exterminador> Jordan_U: i know all of them, but still ;D
[23:16] <oerheks> in google-chrome, one could enable flash again https://helpx.adobe.com/uk/flash-player/kb/enabling-flash-player-chrome.html
[23:16] <Exterminador> okay, FF detects flash, but Chromium and Chrome dont.. i'll take a look at it, oerheks.. thanks
[23:17] <oerheks> firefox ESR does support flash.. it is over for flash
[23:17] <tomreyn> or, for an extreme idea, maybe an irc client which is not web based?
[23:18] <Jordan_U> Exterminador: Your use case just seems oddly non-compelling for wanting to install and use something as aweful as flash.
[23:19] <Exterminador> the end goal is to provide to my network users more than one webchat option
[23:19] <Exterminador> some of them did requested flash chat.. and ofc i need to test it.. that's why i need it
[23:20] <tomreyn> ajaxterm + irssi ;)
[23:20] <tgm4883> You could just tell your network users no
[23:22] <Exterminador> tgm4883: we need to keep our "customers" happy :D
[23:22] <tgm4883> Exterminador: do you let them turn off AV and enable UPNP and open all the firewall ports too?
[23:23] <tgm4883> Exterminador: my point being, you've got to draw a line somewhere, and security reasons make it a pretty easy line to drwa
[23:24] <Exterminador> i know that.. but still, not many 'not flash' web chats with animated gifs, etc
[23:24] <tgm4883> Exterminador: Animated Gifs, Isn't that what slack is for?
[23:25] <Exterminador> Slack isn't irc and irc isn't Slack, imho
[23:25] <tomreyn> no, that's what mattermost is for
[23:25] <tgm4883> tomreyn: touche
[23:25] <tomreyn> and matrix maybe
[23:26] <tgm4883> Exterminador: You're talking about needing animated GIF support, it sounds like "IRC" isn't a hard requirement
[23:27] <Exterminador> i do understand all those reasons. and i personally dont like to have flash enables
[23:27] <Exterminador> *enabled
[23:27] <Exterminador> but too many requests to have it, so that's what i did
[23:27] <bazhang> tgm4883, does giphy support exist anywhere on irc
[23:28] <tgm4883> bazhang: IDK, I tend to think of "IRC" as a protocol
[23:28] <Exterminador> most of the users that i have in the network did come from using Xat platform for a long time
[23:30] <kristhian>     brb
[23:30] <kristhian> Unable to read from: test
[23:30] <kristhian> http://paste.ubuntu.com/25223197/
[23:45] <kristhian> back
[23:45] <kristhian> any answers regarding my problem?
[23:45] <kristhian> i am trying to fix "system in low-grapichs mode" error as well
[23:45] <kristhian> :(
[23:45] <QualityAddict> Hello all, getting a 403 Forbidden error doing sudo apt-get update after adding the libreoffice 5.4 ppa
[23:45] <QualityAddict> E: Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/libreoffice/libreoffice-5-4/ubuntu/dists/zesty/main/source/Sources  403  Forbidden
[23:46] <QualityAddict> Any suggestions?
[23:46] <nacc> QualityAddict: you should talk to the PPA owner
[23:46] <QualityAddict> Okay, will do, thanks.
[23:47] <tomreyn> it's there, just compressed http://ppa.launchpad.net/libreoffice/libreoffice-5-4/ubuntu/dists/zesty/main/source/
[23:48] <tomreyn> kristhian: you forgot to ppa-purge before dist-upgrading. ppa's are not supported, and so are dist-upgrades with ppa's.
[23:49] <kristhian> tomreyn: how do i fix that?
[23:49] <kristhian> thanks
[23:49] <kristhian> so i just need to do sudo apt-get ppa-purge
[23:50] <tomreyn> kristhian: no, you ought to have done that before starting the dist-upgrade.
[23:51] <kristhian> is it not recoverable?
[23:51] <tomreyn> kristhian: now that you already started the upgrade and probably stopped half way through, you should just 'sudo apt-get dist-upgrade' again. but before you do, you should 'sudo apt-get -f install; sudo apt-get upgrade'
[23:52] <kristhian> then the final thing is sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[23:52] <kristhian> copy
[23:53] <swift110> hey kristhian
[23:53] <kristhian> yes?
[23:54] <kristhian> what is that swift110?
[23:55] <oerheks> sudo snap install --beta libreoffice gives 5.4 too
[23:55] <kristhian> it says here that some packages are no longer installed and i should do 'sudo apt-get autoremove' to remove them
[23:55] <kristhian> should i run this command?
[23:55] <kristhian> tomreyn
[23:57] <kristhian> sudo: no tty present and no askpass program specified
[23:57] <kristhian> Use netcat.
[23:57] <kristhian> sudo: no tty present and no askpass program specified
[23:57] <kristhian> Use netcat.
[23:58] <Spec> what