| === cmcmanis is now known as ChuckM | ||
| baz | my system seems trashed... i cant login via x. it justs goes back to the login after i enter my password......i am on my other system atm which is a laptop i have done many things to try and reslove it and nothing has worked | 10:20 |
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| baz | and i have no idea as i cant login under xwindows how i can paste anything | 10:20 |
| baz | i can get in via a console login, i have edited /etc/pam/lightdm with the suggested edits after looking at some pages but to no avail | 10:21 |
| baz | problems with kwallet | 10:23 |
| baz | am using 16.04 LTS | 10:24 |
| baz | any1 here? or at least awake ??? | 10:25 |
| knome | yes, but please note that we're all volunteers and not all answers are available immediately | 10:27 |
| knome | maybe try searching somewhere else while you wait | 10:27 |
| baz | nomatter what i do i keep getting cannot opeen pam_kwallet.so even after installing kwallet4 and kwallet5 , there is indeed no /lib/security directory | 10:28 |
| baz | i have been at this for 3 hours....i am here because i am out of answers | 10:33 |
| baz | good news i just did mv .Xauthority .Xauthority.bak and havebeen able to login.....this all started when my audio stopped working even low pulseaudio was set to the right outputs and | 10:36 |
| baz | nothing was muted, even the vu meters on the pulseaudio volume control were showing up | 10:37 |
| baz | still having the audio issue, have absoulutely no idea what caused it, one minute it seemed it was working...nows it not | 10:39 |
| baz | pulseaudio -k has no effect, the output is set to HDMI, it was working earlier i dont get it | 10:42 |
| baz | now after a reboot x is not accepting my password but the console is... | 10:54 |
| baz | ???? | 10:54 |
| baz | just changed the passwd via the passwd command in console...still not working under X | 10:58 |
| baz | just says password wrong message | 10:58 |
| baz | startx via console lets me in though | 10:59 |
| baz | tried changing passwd via users and group gui in settings.....it changed the password still cant login under x but console accepts password just fine | 11:03 |
| l1Ll1Ll1L | baz that seems really weird. Have you tried restarting? | 11:15 |
| baz | about a thousand times...sames results | 11:15 |
| baz | edited files..... | 11:15 |
| baz | followed a billion pages instructions | 11:15 |
| baz | can log in on console....x login just tells me incorrect password | 11:16 |
| l1Ll1Ll1L | Have you tried ##linux? They are a very knowledgeable channel here | 11:16 |
| knome | baz, does the login screen have the correct keyboard layout? | 11:16 |
| baz | i even installed kwallet stuff | 11:16 |
| l1Ll1Ll1L | Maybe there is some, file you must change for your DE | 11:16 |
| baz | intresting question......but when i type my username it appears fine | 11:16 |
| knome | does your username have weird letters? | 11:17 |
| knome | maybe not, but your password might | 11:17 |
| baz | just letters and numbers | 11:17 |
| knome | check the kb layout | 11:17 |
| baz | username is just alpha characters, no special charcters, no numbers | 11:17 |
| knome | i would still double-check that, if for whatever reason it's set to something wacky | 11:18 |
| baz | password has no special characters i.e !@^& either | 11:18 |
| baz | i havent changed the keyboard layout.....according to gui its set to system default ... | 11:19 |
| baz | tried changing it generic101 pc , no change | 11:21 |
| l1Ll1Ll1L | baz this looks relevant https://askubuntu.com/questions/463846/cant-login-to-my-account-i-know-the-password | 11:22 |
| l1Ll1Ll1L | and for my ego's sake I am happy to say that the top answer on this thread states the source as a file used by xfce4 =D | 11:24 |
| l1Ll1Ll1L | hopefully it fixes your problem | 11:24 |
| flocculant | in the past I've seen this when disk is full | 11:25 |
| l1Ll1Ll1L | flocculant, like some kind of lock file that can't be created? | 11:26 |
| baz | flocculant: yeah i had the disk full problem in the past, clever that you mentioned it... | 11:27 |
| baz | nodice | 11:28 |
| l1Ll1Ll1L | baz nodice also to the top answer on the thread I mentioned? Because that looks super relevant | 11:29 |
| flocculant | I'd definitely try the mv .xfce4 things option if you've not done that yet - you'll lose all yourxfce settings ftr | 11:29 |
| l1Ll1Ll1L | but you can restore for everything except xfce4 itself | 11:30 |
| l1Ll1Ll1L | not too hard to fix | 11:30 |
| baz | you mean the mv ~/.config/xfce4{,.bak} | 11:30 |
| l1Ll1Ll1L | yeah that | 11:30 |
| baz | yep, no change | 11:30 |
| l1Ll1Ll1L | huh that is really strange | 11:30 |
| flocculant | baz does a new user login ok? | 11:31 |
| flocculant | gtg though | 11:31 |
| baz | it was just as strange as when i suddenly came home to no audio through hdmi but pulseaudio was showing it on the VU meters in pavucontrol and everything...correct settings.....nothing muted....not tv....not alsa....not in pulseaudio volume control......somehow i ended up here | 11:31 |
| baz | guest logs in fine..... | 11:32 |
| l1Ll1Ll1L | when pulseaudio fucks up 9/10 times I have to open alsamixer and unmute from there | 11:32 |
| l1Ll1Ll1L | the other 1/10 times I restart | 11:32 |
| l1Ll1Ll1L | referring to pavucontrol in particular | 11:33 |
| baz | tried unmuteing from alsa mixer not muted... | 11:33 |
| l1Ll1Ll1L | I still recommend you ask this question in ##linux btw, smart motherfuckers over there | 11:33 |
| l1Ll1Ll1L | if they are active right now anyway | 11:33 |
| baz | created new user under console...tested login under console...just fine....tried under x ... FAIL | 11:34 |
| l1Ll1Ll1L | man that is really strange | 11:34 |
| baz | its something related to lightdm. it has to be...because i can login at console and just run startx ..... | 11:35 |
| l1Ll1Ll1L | that does stand to reason | 11:35 |
| l1Ll1Ll1L | as a last resort follow this page to make a new user that xfce is aware of | 11:35 |
| l1Ll1Ll1L | https://pyra-handheld.com/boards/threads/how-to-create-a-new-user-in-xfce-that-can-work-at-login.71012/ | 11:36 |
| l1Ll1Ll1L | if that works, haven't tried it =P | 11:36 |
| l1Ll1Ll1L | ok here is another thing to try | 11:38 |
| l1Ll1Ll1L | https://askubuntu.com/questions/151648/cant-login-to-my-xfce-environment-from-lxdm | 11:38 |
| l1Ll1Ll1L | also see wayne's comments in this thread http://forums.fedoraforum.org/showthread.php?t=148184 | 11:40 |
| baz | tried creating another user with -m (because i forgot) exactly same result | 11:40 |
| l1Ll1Ll1L | man hopefully one of these threads works for you, I have literally had zero problem with Xubuntu, which is the main reason I reccomend it | 11:40 |
| baz | nope i even gave the newuser the simplest password in the world | 11:44 |
| baz | i have had many problems with xfce over the years....in many distros...most of them have gone away | 11:44 |
| baz | after bugs were fixed | 11:45 |
| baz | been using it since 2006 (i think) | 11:45 |
| l1Ll1Ll1L | huh, the only issue I have with it is the toolbar with multiple monitors, only since 2016 though | 11:46 |
| baz | i'm gonna take a break for a minute...thanks for your help so far....some good ideas | 11:47 |
| l1Ll1Ll1L | baz try copying your home folder to a new directory as a backup then logging in through the GUI. I had to do that once after I did some weird shit] | 11:47 |
| l1Ll1Ll1L | by copying I mean copying and deleting the original | 11:47 |
| l1Ll1Ll1L | as in log in without a user directory | 11:47 |
| baz | so mv home folder to another newly created folder( or directory) ...then login with no home directory present whatsoever? (just to clarify) | 11:48 |
| l1Ll1Ll1L | yes correct, I would try that | 11:49 |
| baz | sorry to interchange folder and directory...i failed a unix test in class with that question (it was trivial) | 11:49 |
| baz | never took a college class ever again | 11:49 |
| l1Ll1Ll1L | lol, they are interchangeably in this case | 11:49 |
| l1Ll1Ll1L | *interchangeable | 11:50 |
| l1Ll1Ll1L | fold that dir | 11:50 |
| l1Ll1Ll1L | fold it hard | 11:50 |
| baz | nodice | 11:53 |
| l1Ll1Ll1L | damn, I thought that one would work | 11:54 |
| baz | ofcourse console login just fine | 11:54 |
| l1Ll1Ll1L | try uninstallin and reinstalling xfce4? | 11:54 |
| baz | think i tried that before i screamed help me i am in hell and came here...lets look in my history | 11:54 |
| baz | after i copy it back | 11:55 |
| l1Ll1Ll1L | haha ok I think you are in fact in hell then | 11:55 |
| l1Ll1Ll1L | did you check the hash sum of your iso before copying it to USB | 11:55 |
| l1Ll1Ll1L | other than that check ##linux as I mentioned or ask the xfce devs lol | 11:56 |
| l1Ll1Ll1L | sounds like you have a weird issue | 11:57 |
| baz | this wasnt a new install.....i have had this install for about 2 or 3 months | 11:58 |
| l1Ll1Ll1L | ok, random thought here | 11:58 |
| l1Ll1Ll1L | install a different DE such as gnome | 11:58 |
| baz | did copy it back... i had prevouisly tried to reinstall xfce4......before running here with tail between legs | 11:58 |
| l1Ll1Ll1L | see if logging in under that DE works | 11:58 |
| l1Ll1Ll1L | and if so try xfce4 again | 11:58 |
| l1Ll1Ll1L | baz in your situation my tail would also be between my legs | 11:59 |
| baz | whats the lightest DE?????? i dont want something heavy,,,,,,would blackbox quailify? | 11:59 |
| l1Ll1Ll1L | thta is some strange shit | 11:59 |
| l1Ll1Ll1L | I dunno man, xfce has been light enough for my purposes, gl hf | 11:59 |
| l1Ll1Ll1L | try console only | 12:00 |
| baz | i dont want a mystery as to what i have to uninstall never mind if something goes wrong when i uninstall it...i already have enough chaos | 12:00 |
| baz | console i can log in no hassle......i'm sure its something to do with a interaction with lightdm (or something it interacts with) | 12:01 |
| l1Ll1Ll1L | I dunno man, I am running manjaro and have some apparently firmware related shit I have gotten no help with | 12:01 |
| baz | dont know why i think that...it could be that i am tired | 12:01 |
| l1Ll1Ll1L | sometimes you have to be an expert or hope for the best I guess *shrug* | 12:01 |
| l1Ll1Ll1L | ok this is the third time I mentioned ##linux but try them | 12:02 |
| l1Ll1Ll1L | some smart motherfuckers hang out there | 12:02 |
| l1Ll1Ll1L | you have to register your handle but that isn't hard | 12:03 |
| baz | damn now my multi monitor setup is hosed.......and my monitors are all the wrong direction.....hard when your tired | 12:03 |
| l1Ll1Ll1L | ok you are fucking with me | 12:03 |
| baz | thanks for trying and damn hard too..i was hoping to show you the tail end of my history file...but alas i cant think sideways without any sleep first | 12:03 |
| baz | no i did something somewhere | 12:04 |
| l1Ll1Ll1L | ok well when you wake up | 12:04 |
| l1Ll1Ll1L | identify with nickeserv if needed | 12:04 |
| l1Ll1Ll1L | than try ##linux lol | 12:04 |
| l1Ll1Ll1L | or research xfce specific channels | 12:04 |
| l1Ll1Ll1L | either way good luck | 12:05 |
| l1Ll1Ll1L | *nickserv | 12:05 |
| baz | hang on ... i paste it.... i got the mouse on a horizontal monitor | 12:06 |
| baz | https://pastebin.com/xwjA7nNf | 12:08 |
| baz | the history when i started to trip out when my audio was gone and procedded to try things...further screwing up shit | 12:09 |
| l1Ll1Ll1L | sorry man, I am only semi-competent. Not an expert who can turn your bash history into results | 12:11 |
| baz | i just thought you might be curious to see my insanity at work... | 12:11 |
| l1Ll1Ll1L | on a level of expertise from retard to linus torvald, I am a 3-4/10 =P | 12:11 |
| l1Ll1Ll1L | that is 3 to 4 | 12:12 |
| l1Ll1Ll1L | no 3 minus 4 | 12:12 |
| l1Ll1Ll1L | I am not -1/10 | 12:12 |
| l1Ll1Ll1L | that would be bad | 12:12 |
| baz | its times like these i miss my old amiga...even though it was a far simpler and dumber machine in many aspects ... i knew it far better than i would ever know linux | 12:12 |
| l1Ll1Ll1L | well I wasn't able to own an amiga but they do sound cool | 12:13 |
| l1Ll1Ll1L | the first game I played was installed from a 5.5" floppy though | 12:13 |
| baz | its much easier to get your head around a much smaller operating system...back in the day they were amazing compared to win 3.1 and mac os .... preemptive multitasking in a meg of memory | 12:13 |
| l1Ll1Ll1L | makes sense, takes more engineering prowess to accomplish things with limited resources | 12:14 |
| l1Ll1Ll1L | *5.25" | 12:14 |
| baz | not that old... it did use 3.5" disks and stored 880k (when standard amiga format was used) on a regular 720k disk.. (different format than ibm's) | 12:15 |
| baz | later they changed the file system and i think they got a little more storage.... | 12:16 |
| l1Ll1Ll1L | shit I guess I don't knowhat the first machine I used was, my parents inherited it and I benefited from it | 12:16 |
| baz | now my commie64 did use 5 1/4's and we used a paperclip so we could use the backside of the disks as the 1541 drive only read one side at a time... | 12:16 |
| l1Ll1Ll1L | lol nice | 12:17 |
| baz | i mean paper hole punch to make another notch ... need sleep | 12:18 |
| l1Ll1Ll1L | ok well good night, hopefully xubuntu cooperates with you at some point | 12:18 |
| l1Ll1Ll1L | it better be easier than running an amiga | 12:19 |
| baz | someday i am going to find a way to virtualize this damn thing in some sort of version control system.....hopefully some day...... | 12:24 |
| baz | just flip from snapshot to snapshot and diff when it goes crappy | 12:24 |
| l1Ll1Ll1L | well you should be able to take regular images of your HD if you have larger one for backups | 12:25 |
| l1Ll1Ll1L | I have been thinking similar things lately, seems reinstalling is too frequent | 12:26 |
| baz | right to do it fast and effecienty is probably a challenge....though sometimes i get so caught up in the complexity i dont see how simple things actually are | 12:27 |
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