=== cmcmanis is now known as ChuckM [10:20] my system seems trashed... i cant login via x. it justs goes back to the login after i enter my password......i am on my other system atm which is a laptop i have done many things to try and reslove it and nothing has worked [10:20] and i have no idea as i cant login under xwindows how i can paste anything [10:21] i can get in via a console login, i have edited /etc/pam/lightdm with the suggested edits after looking at some pages but to no avail [10:23] problems with kwallet [10:24] am using 16.04 LTS [10:25] any1 here? or at least awake ??? [10:27] yes, but please note that we're all volunteers and not all answers are available immediately [10:27] maybe try searching somewhere else while you wait [10:28] nomatter what i do i keep getting cannot opeen pam_kwallet.so even after installing kwallet4 and kwallet5 , there is indeed no /lib/security directory [10:33] i have been at this for 3 hours....i am here because i am out of answers [10:36] good news i just did mv .Xauthority .Xauthority.bak and havebeen able to login.....this all started when my audio stopped working even low pulseaudio was set to the right outputs and [10:37] nothing was muted, even the vu meters on the pulseaudio volume control were showing up [10:39] still having the audio issue, have absoulutely no idea what caused it, one minute it seemed it was working...nows it not [10:42] pulseaudio -k has no effect, the output is set to HDMI, it was working earlier i dont get it [10:54] now after a reboot x is not accepting my password but the console is... [10:54] ???? [10:58] just changed the passwd via the passwd command in console...still not working under X [10:58] just says password wrong message [10:59] startx via console lets me in though [11:03] tried changing passwd via users and group gui in settings.....it changed the password still cant login under x but console accepts password just fine [11:15] baz that seems really weird. Have you tried restarting? [11:15] about a thousand times...sames results [11:15] edited files..... [11:15] followed a billion pages instructions [11:16] can log in on console....x login just tells me incorrect password [11:16] Have you tried ##linux? They are a very knowledgeable channel here [11:16] baz, does the login screen have the correct keyboard layout? [11:16] i even installed kwallet stuff [11:16] Maybe there is some, file you must change for your DE [11:16] intresting question......but when i type my username it appears fine [11:17] does your username have weird letters? [11:17] maybe not, but your password might [11:17] just letters and numbers [11:17] check the kb layout [11:17] username is just alpha characters, no special charcters, no numbers [11:18] i would still double-check that, if for whatever reason it's set to something wacky [11:18] password has no special characters i.e !@^& either [11:19] i havent changed the keyboard layout.....according to gui its set to system default ... [11:21] tried changing it generic101 pc , no change [11:22] baz this looks relevant https://askubuntu.com/questions/463846/cant-login-to-my-account-i-know-the-password [11:24] and for my ego's sake I am happy to say that the top answer on this thread states the source as a file used by xfce4 =D [11:24] hopefully it fixes your problem [11:25] in the past I've seen this when disk is full [11:26] flocculant, like some kind of lock file that can't be created? [11:27] flocculant: yeah i had the disk full problem in the past, clever that you mentioned it... [11:28] nodice [11:29] baz nodice also to the top answer on the thread I mentioned? Because that looks super relevant [11:29] I'd definitely try the mv .xfce4 things option if you've not done that yet - you'll lose all yourxfce settings ftr [11:30] but you can restore for everything except xfce4 itself [11:30] not too hard to fix [11:30] you mean the mv ~/.config/xfce4{,.bak} [11:30] yeah that [11:30] yep, no change [11:30] huh that is really strange [11:31] baz does a new user login ok? [11:31] gtg though [11:31] it was just as strange as when i suddenly came home to no audio through hdmi but pulseaudio was showing it on the VU meters in pavucontrol and everything...correct settings.....nothing muted....not tv....not alsa....not in pulseaudio volume control......somehow i ended up here [11:32] guest logs in fine..... [11:32] when pulseaudio fucks up 9/10 times I have to open alsamixer and unmute from there [11:32] the other 1/10 times I restart [11:33] referring to pavucontrol in particular [11:33] tried unmuteing from alsa mixer not muted... [11:33] I still recommend you ask this question in ##linux btw, smart motherfuckers over there [11:33] if they are active right now anyway [11:34] created new user under console...tested login under console...just fine....tried under x ... FAIL [11:34] man that is really strange [11:35] its something related to lightdm. it has to be...because i can login at console and just run startx ..... [11:35] that does stand to reason [11:35] as a last resort follow this page to make a new user that xfce is aware of [11:36] https://pyra-handheld.com/boards/threads/how-to-create-a-new-user-in-xfce-that-can-work-at-login.71012/ [11:36] if that works, haven't tried it =P [11:38] ok here is another thing to try [11:38] https://askubuntu.com/questions/151648/cant-login-to-my-xfce-environment-from-lxdm [11:40] also see wayne's comments in this thread http://forums.fedoraforum.org/showthread.php?t=148184 [11:40] tried creating another user with -m (because i forgot) exactly same result [11:40] man hopefully one of these threads works for you, I have literally had zero problem with Xubuntu, which is the main reason I reccomend it [11:44] nope i even gave the newuser the simplest password in the world [11:44] i have had many problems with xfce over the years....in many distros...most of them have gone away [11:45] after bugs were fixed [11:45] been using it since 2006 (i think) [11:46] huh, the only issue I have with it is the toolbar with multiple monitors, only since 2016 though [11:47] i'm gonna take a break for a minute...thanks for your help so far....some good ideas [11:47] baz try copying your home folder to a new directory as a backup then logging in through the GUI. I had to do that once after I did some weird shit] [11:47] by copying I mean copying and deleting the original [11:47] as in log in without a user directory [11:48] so mv home folder to another newly created folder( or directory) ...then login with no home directory present whatsoever? (just to clarify) [11:49] yes correct, I would try that [11:49] sorry to interchange folder and directory...i failed a unix test in class with that question (it was trivial) [11:49] never took a college class ever again [11:49] lol, they are interchangeably in this case [11:50] *interchangeable [11:50] fold that dir [11:50] fold it hard [11:53] nodice [11:54] damn, I thought that one would work [11:54] ofcourse console login just fine [11:54] try uninstallin and reinstalling xfce4? [11:54] think i tried that before i screamed help me i am in hell and came here...lets look in my history [11:55] after i copy it back [11:55] haha ok I think you are in fact in hell then [11:55] did you check the hash sum of your iso before copying it to USB [11:56] other than that check ##linux as I mentioned or ask the xfce devs lol [11:57] sounds like you have a weird issue [11:58] this wasnt a new install.....i have had this install for about 2 or 3 months [11:58] ok, random thought here [11:58] install a different DE such as gnome [11:58] did copy it back... i had prevouisly tried to reinstall xfce4......before running here with tail between legs [11:58] see if logging in under that DE works [11:58] and if so try xfce4 again [11:59] baz in your situation my tail would also be between my legs [11:59] whats the lightest DE?????? i dont want something heavy,,,,,,would blackbox quailify? [11:59] thta is some strange shit [11:59] I dunno man, xfce has been light enough for my purposes, gl hf [12:00] try console only [12:00] i dont want a mystery as to what i have to uninstall never mind if something goes wrong when i uninstall it...i already have enough chaos [12:01] console i can log in no hassle......i'm sure its something to do with a interaction with lightdm (or something it interacts with) [12:01] I dunno man, I am running manjaro and have some apparently firmware related shit I have gotten no help with [12:01] dont know why i think that...it could be that i am tired [12:01] sometimes you have to be an expert or hope for the best I guess *shrug* [12:02] ok this is the third time I mentioned ##linux but try them [12:02] some smart motherfuckers hang out there [12:03] you have to register your handle but that isn't hard [12:03] damn now my multi monitor setup is hosed.......and my monitors are all the wrong direction.....hard when your tired [12:03] ok you are fucking with me [12:03] thanks for trying and damn hard too..i was hoping to show you the tail end of my history file...but alas i cant think sideways without any sleep first [12:04] no i did something somewhere [12:04] ok well when you wake up [12:04] identify with nickeserv if needed [12:04] than try ##linux lol [12:04] or research xfce specific channels [12:05] either way good luck [12:05] *nickserv [12:06] hang on ... i paste it.... i got the mouse on a horizontal monitor [12:08] https://pastebin.com/xwjA7nNf [12:09] the history when i started to trip out when my audio was gone and procedded to try things...further screwing up shit [12:11] sorry man, I am only semi-competent. Not an expert who can turn your bash history into results [12:11] i just thought you might be curious to see my insanity at work... [12:11] on a level of expertise from retard to linus torvald, I am a 3-4/10 =P [12:12] that is 3 to 4 [12:12] no 3 minus 4 [12:12] I am not -1/10 [12:12] that would be bad [12:12] its times like these i miss my old amiga...even though it was a far simpler and dumber machine in many aspects ... i knew it far better than i would ever know linux [12:13] well I wasn't able to own an amiga but they do sound cool [12:13] the first game I played was installed from a 5.5" floppy though [12:13] its much easier to get your head around a much smaller operating system...back in the day they were amazing compared to win 3.1 and mac os .... preemptive multitasking in a meg of memory [12:14] makes sense, takes more engineering prowess to accomplish things with limited resources [12:14] *5.25" [12:15] not that old... it did use 3.5" disks and stored 880k (when standard amiga format was used) on a regular 720k disk.. (different format than ibm's) [12:16] later they changed the file system and i think they got a little more storage.... [12:16] shit I guess I don't knowhat the first machine I used was, my parents inherited it and I benefited from it [12:16] now my commie64 did use 5 1/4's and we used a paperclip so we could use the backside of the disks as the 1541 drive only read one side at a time... [12:17] lol nice [12:18] i mean paper hole punch to make another notch ... need sleep [12:18] ok well good night, hopefully xubuntu cooperates with you at some point [12:19] it better be easier than running an amiga [12:24] someday i am going to find a way to virtualize this damn thing in some sort of version control system.....hopefully some day...... [12:24] just flip from snapshot to snapshot and diff when it goes crappy [12:25] well you should be able to take regular images of your HD if you have larger one for backups [12:26] I have been thinking similar things lately, seems reinstalling is too frequent [12:27] right to do it fast and effecienty is probably a challenge....though sometimes i get so caught up in the complexity i dont see how simple things actually are [22:14] Hi room my dedicated server is not offering me Open GL 3D Rendering unfortunately, I have tried everything.. could someone please assist me? I'm looking for a remote technician to help me with this, I have been trying for days.. I'd happily pay $300 for a working solution to my problem! (Making OpenGL 3D enabled)