[09:52] Hi All, as gnome will become the default DE on the new Ubuntu I had a look, and tried it out, over all I'm quite happy with it, but I found few things which just eat my hardware, I know that gnome is not designed to run on old hardware, but still... [09:52] I'm wondering if it will be possible to remove some of the pointless unused services like tracker or evolution [09:53] I tried to purge the related packages, but the dependencies are tight and the whole DE was marked for removal when I tried to remove this unused components [09:54] feamniege: evolution-data-server is a fundamental part of GNOME and can't be removed without crippling the system [09:54] tracker is not installed by default currently in Ubuntu 17.10 but some non-default apps require it [09:55] neither tracker nor e-d-s is pointless ;) [09:55] I ended up `chmod -x` all related binary and now it's pretty speedy and yet I did not discovery any broken functionality [09:55] tracker itself shouldn't cause problems… [09:57] it's eating all the sweet IO I have so I read up what it's used for and I see no reason to have it running, neither the evolution-data-server I seen no functionality which is basic for an OS nor a DE, that should be an independent application [09:58] but yes that is what I found that it's fundamental part :( [09:58] I just don't understand why [09:58] you probably shouldn't be removing stuff you don't understand ;) [09:59] I understand what it does, I don't understand why that is part of the DE, it does not do anything useful to me don't use any of the function it provide [09:59] it provides calendar integration for one [10:00] integration with ? [10:02] gnome-shell has a calendar that uses e-d-s as a library and a service instead of gnome-shell having to write all of that code itself [10:02] it's OK I don't want to go too far with this, I can accept no as an answer I just wanted to give voice to my frustration as I see no value in it, and there for I don't think it should be a mandatory component, for me it's not mandatory, and in fact I have not seen a gnome user yet who actualy used it [10:04] tracker shouldn't cause problems, but if you can come up with a testcase where it does, please file a bug [10:05] I'm happy to have the calendar removed from the top bar, I can find an alternative calendar application which I can use, I understand what you say but what I'm trying to get across that this is an application not an OS, and there for it should be optional [10:05] every GNOME distro besides Ubuntu includes tracker by default so it generally works for most people [10:06] Ubuntu with GNOME is clearly an OS, not an application ;) [10:06] what version of Ubuntu are you using? [10:10] I have an 16.04 LTS at home an 17.04 here now, both suffer under the both tracker and e-d-s, I tired to setup the configuration of tracker not to index is the free space is below 99% and setup the folders to be limited to nothing, but it keeps comming up to the top of the list both in iotop and top