[00:00] <kristhian> oh i was running /exec -out command
[00:00] <kristhian> sorry
[00:00] <kristhian> i want to show tomreyn the output
[00:01] <kristhian> that it says i need to 'sudo apt-get autoremove' some packages not needed
[00:04] <foozb12> Hey. Is there a simple way to see connected devices to my router & get the eth address? As far as I can tell, nmap is either not picking up the device -or- it's just not giving me the eth address
[00:05] <foozb12> I'm looking for something like 12.0.0.3 but all I get are our outgoing addresses
[00:05] <foozb12> Normally I would check the router itself but for some strange, strange reason, AT&T/Netgear decided not to include 'connected devices' on this particular one
[00:08] <Jordan_U> foozb12: Ping the broadcast address then run "ip neigh show" to dump your arp table.
[00:10] <foozb12> Jordan_U, thanks. That worked. Been googling for an hour haha
[00:11] <Jordan_U> foozb12: You're welcome.
[00:21] <tharkun> I want/need to build a bootable image of ubuntu on an 8GB usb dongle. I have currently installed Debian is it possible to do it from there or am I in need to get a working ubuntu instance?
[00:37] <whatnow> hello is this the place to ask about card reader scripts?
[00:40] <madLyfe> any good browser based ssh clients?
[00:41] <whatnow> madLyfe why do you want a browser based ssh client
[00:42] <madLyfe> convenience i guess
[00:42] <madLyfe> having tabs seems nice
[00:42] <whatnow> there are a whole bunch but i wouldn't trust them, since they go through other peoples servers
[00:43] <whatnow> also, tabs if you are in an editor, or do you want to tabs just in general on commandline?
[00:43] <madLyfe> well like tabs instead of having many windows up(with putty).
[00:44] <whatnow> oh. okay like multiple sessions. i use either screen or a window manager. are you familiar with either?
[00:45] <madLyfe> well i use tmux when in a ssh connection. but that is only to one server. when i wanna ssh to another server and have them up i have to open another window.
[00:45] <madLyfe> a windows, window.
[00:45] <madLyfe> :P
[00:46] <whatnow> okay,, tmux is just like screen. why dont you try a tiling window manager? i use i3wm, and i have 4 windows tiled behind this one currently.
[00:46] <whatnow> i am assuming you are on a linux distro..
[00:47] <madLyfe> no. im on windows. but sshing to a few ubuntu servers
[00:47] <texla> Using Samba as a storage device which version do you download
[00:47] <whatnow> madLyfe, and you don't want putty as a client?
[00:48] <madLyfe> would be nice to manage them all from 1 window is what im getting at
[00:48] <madLyfe> i want to be able to glance at them
[00:48] <madLyfe> why i keep them up
[00:50] <whatnow> madLyfe hmm i see, have you looked at firessh
[00:51] <madLyfe> nope. only worked with putty so far
[00:51] <whatnow> it is a browser based ssh client in javascript, meant for firefox
[00:51] <whatnow> it is still in dev mode tho
[00:51] <whatnow> or what ive read
[00:52] <whatnow> http://firessh.net/
[00:52] <madLyfe> ty il will give it a look over
[00:53] <whatnow> on another note, madLyfe you mentioned that you had servers. what do you do with them
[00:53] <madLyfe> they are mining
[00:53] <whatnow> bitcoin
[00:53] <whatnow> ?
[00:53] <madLyfe> decided to give nix a try. starting fresh with nix since a few days ago so im still a newb.
[00:54] <madLyfe> nah, these ones are xmr
[00:54] <whatnow> haha good choice on trying linux. what distro are you looking at?
[00:55] <whatnow> madLufe what is the price of a xmr
[00:57] <tharkun> madLyfe: tmux, screen will add multiple terminals to a single xterm or if you use gterminal will have a lot of tabs also :)
[00:57] <madLyfe> what distro am i looking at?
[00:57] <tharkun> ubuntu?
[00:58] <madLyfe> $43.70 right now: https://cryptowat.ch/kraken/xmrusd
[00:58] <whatnow> madLyfe hmm. and yes like ubuntu, mint, etc
[00:58] <whatnow> so xmr is about the same as btc then
[00:59] <madLyfe> oh i thought i mentioned that. i put ubuntu server 16 LTS on there.
[00:59] <madLyfe> whatever is the most recent.
[00:59] <madLyfe> no. BTC is like $2700 or so currently
[00:59] <madLyfe> at that link i just posted you can browse around and see the prices of different coins
[01:00] <whatnow> lol i didnt see the B after 44.73
[01:00] <madLyfe> tharkun: xterm = putty?
[01:00] <whatnow> i was looking at mkt cap saorry. yes btc is way more expensive. how easy is it to mine xmr
[01:01] <madLyfe> depends on the hardware. hardware is pretty expensive but there are calculators out there to let you know if its profitable or not.
[01:02] <madLyfe> gterminal link, tharkun?
[01:03] <whatnow> hmm. i have a few servers that arent doing much, but from what i was told about btc, is that it isn't worth it if i dont have a  lot of servers. since cost of running, hardware, etc
[01:04] <whatnow> madLyfe, how worried are you about your security?
[01:05] <devslash2> i edited /etc/defaults/grub and now when i boot i get an error cant find command recordfail. please press any key to continue. can someone show me their unedited version of that file
[01:05] <whatnow> madLyfe is this something that you wanted? picture on top https://www.ocf.berkeley.edu/~ckuehl/tmux/
[01:05] <devslash2> im able to boot it up all the way so its really more of a warning than an error
[01:05] <whatnow> devslash2 why were you editing grub
[01:05] <Jordan_U> devslash2: Please pastebin your current /etc/default/grub and the contents of /boot/grub/grub.cfg .
[01:05] <devslash2> because i change the default timeout
[01:08] <devslash2> https://www.pastebin.com/Qs4agSix for /etc/defaults/grub and https://www.pastebin.com/CstSLcpY for grub.cfg
[01:10] <whatnow> devslash2, just wondering, you did see that grub.cfg said no changes
[01:10] <devslash2> huh
[01:10] <devslash2> \what are you talking about
[01:10] <devslash2> i didnt edit that file
[01:10] <whatnow> okay good.
[01:10] <Jordan_U> devslash2: Have you made any changes in /etc/grub.d/ at all? (You shouldn't have)
[01:11] <whatnow> making sure
[01:11] <devslash2> yes to 40_custom for windows
[01:11] <whatnow> devslash, erase the grub_recordfail line
[01:11] <devslash2> and in 00_header i change quick_boot from "1" to "0"
[01:11] <devslash2> where
[01:11] <whatnow> in your defaults/grub
[01:12] <devslash2> its not in there
[01:12] <whatnow> your error said it didnt understand that
[01:12] <Jordan_U> devslash2: You shouldn't have changed 00_header . It appears that you have somehow made 00_header no longer define the function recordfail.
[01:12] <devslash2> what do i do
[01:13] <Jordan_U> devslash2: First, lets make sure we know everything that you've changed related to grub. Have you used grub-customiser or anything similar?
[01:14] <devslash2> not recently
[01:14] <devslash2> long before this problem started
[01:14] <devslash2> ok i fixed it
[01:15] <Jordan_U> devslash2: How did you fix it?
[01:15] <devslash2> changed the line that i modified in 00_header
[01:15] <devslash2> back to "1"
[01:15] <devslash2> ran update-grub and reboooted
[01:17] <Jordan_U> devslash2: Great. In the future, don't ever change anything in /etc/grub.d/ . Even for custom menu entries I prefer creating a new file, /boot/grub/custom.cfg and putting them there rather than editing /etc/grub.d/40_custom .
[01:17] <whatnow> ^ good idea
[01:17] <devslash2> what about 40_custom ?
[01:18] <devslash2> for now i want to remove the windows entry from there
[01:18] <devslash2> since i removed the windows drive and dont have windows ATM
[01:19] <whatnow> devslash i just let os-prober handle that
[01:20] <devslash2> that didnt work when i did have windows
[01:20] <devslash2> it didnt show any output
[01:21] <whatnow> hmm ubuntu is wierd sometimes
[01:21] <whatnow> well you can erase the entry
[01:21] <Jordan_U> devslash2: Let's make sure that /etc/grub.d/ gets completely reverted just to be safe.
[01:21] <whatnow> yes that
[01:21] <whatnow> ^
[01:22] <devslash2> well i think its back to the defaults now
[01:22] <whatnow> in the future, always save backups
[01:22] <devslash2> i reverted the 1 line i changed in 00_header
[01:22] <Jordan_U> devslash2: Once you start these instructions, be sure to finish them. First, download the latest grub-common .deb file: "apt download grub-common"
[01:23] <devslash2> can you please paste the instructions
[01:23] <devslash2> i need to save them because i cant do it right now
[01:24] <Jordan_U> devslash2: Sure, though it would be best if you could do it while I or someone else familiar with grub/ dpkg's --force-confmiss option is around.
[01:24] <devslash2> i appreciate it but i have to get going in a minute
[01:26] <devslash2> just so you know, i compared 00_header from a good source to mine and they are the same
[01:26] <devslash2> and the only other file in /etc/grub.d/ that i modified was 40_custom
[01:27] <devslash2> i checked by the timestamp of all the files in that dir
[01:29] <devslash2> once i get another ssd im gonna reinstall windows on it. i know that it'll overwrite grub. do i just boot from recovery dvd and reinstall grub at that point ?
[01:30] <Jordan_U> devslash2: Even after installing Windows you should be able to enter your boot firmware ( "BIOS" ) screens and select Ubuntu to boot from.
[01:31] <devslash2> ok
[01:33] <devslash2> thanks
[01:34] <Jordan_U> devslash2: You're welcome.
[01:40] <Jordan_U> Well, since I've done the work. In case anyone wants it here are some I believe pretty good instructions for reverting /etc/grub.d/ back to its default state: http://paste.ubuntu.com/25223684/
[01:49] <Bashing-om> Jordan_U: ^ dome, copied off .
[01:49] <Bashing-om> done*
[02:11] <RJ45> How do I  'ssh -X'   a program that's already running?
[02:16] <Jordan_U> RJ45: I'm not clear on exactly what your goal is but I expect the only answer is to use something like VNC rather than ssh -X.
[02:51] <RJ45> holy shit, for years I've been using VNC, I just tried XRDP, it's a million times snappier!
[02:51] <RJ45> it's like, it feels real-time!
[02:51] <RJ45> woah!
[02:52] <RJ45> why is it so much better, when it's merely X hacked onto a windows protocol???
[02:52] <RJ45> wtf
[02:54] <RJ45> no seriously, I want to know why
[03:00] <Jordan_U> RJ45: I would expect XRDP to be faster than ssh -X, but have you tried VNC with this same setup and confirmed that it's slower than XRDP?
[03:02] <rypervenche> RJ45: I've never had a problem with VNC even over an SSH tunnel. Although I will say what colors and speed settings your VNC client uses will GREATLY change your performance. I use the lowest color setting and fastest connection settings and I have no problems that way.
[03:03] <RJ45> Jordan_U: I have been using x11vnc server on this machine for years, it is slooooooooooooooowwww and locks-up sometimes
[03:03] <rypervenche> RJ45: And XRDP actually uses VNC on the Linux side, FYI.
[03:03] <RJ45> well that's really weird then
[03:04] <RJ45> I'm telling you, it is literally a million times faster
[03:04] <RJ45> and smoother
[03:04] <RJ45> omg
[03:04] <rypervenche> Sounds like you may just be doing it wrong? I've been using x11vnc for years and it never fails me. But use what works for you.
[03:04] <rypervenche> RJ45: What VNC client are you using?
[03:04] <RJ45> regular VNC was almost unuseable
[03:04] <RJ45> remmina
[03:04] <rypervenche> Odd. That's what I use.
[03:04] <RJ45> but I've tried Vinagre too
[03:04] <RJ45> same
[03:05] <RJ45> also using remmina for RDP
[03:06] <RJ45> how do I get clipboard sharing working with XRDP via remmina?  (both Ubuntu MATE)
[03:14] <RJ45> hm, this article seems to confirm that despite it being a sort of VNC over RDP, it is indeed a-lot snappier  https://www.tweaking4all.com/software/linux-software/use-xrdp-remote-access-ubuntu-14-04/
[03:53] <histo> What provides desktop sharing in ubuntu?  Which application is being called from the dash when it is launched?
[03:54] <_hector_> Hi. need someone who can tell me why removing 'xubuntu minimal' with tasksel ends up borking the network carf
[03:54] <_hector_> card
[03:55] <histo> _hector_: Can you elaborate on borking?
[03:56] <_hector_> fresh install of ubuntu server, needed a desktop, so installed the 'xubuntu minimal' option through tasksel, changed my mind and wanted to install lubuntu minimal, so removed the X from xubuntu minimal in tasksel.  after it was doing its thing, the network card was gone and not working.
[03:57] <_hector_> rebooted and still no network card.
[03:58] <histo> _hector_: How are you seeing that it's gone?
[03:58] <histo> _hector_: lspci?
[03:58] <Jordan_U> _hector_: I would generally not use tasksel for removing tasks. Do you have the ubuntu-minimal and ubuntu-server metapackages installed currently?
[03:59] <_hector_> it wasn't until after i tried to run an apt install and it wouldnt comm with the online repository that i ran ifconfig and didn't see the network card listed
[04:00] <_hector_> no, since it was a fresh install, i redid it but didn't choose anything for Open
[04:00] <_hector_> SSH
[04:00] <_hector_> but OpenSSH
[04:02] <_hector_> so for now its just server and openssh server, nothing else.  i was just curious as to why it would remove the nic during the removal of the xubuntu minimal.
[04:03] <histo> _hector_: it didn't remove the nic. just removed whatever you were using to configure the connection
[04:03] <Jordan_U> _hector_: Does "apt policy ubuntu-minimal" say that the metapackage is installed or not?
[04:04] <_hector_> histo: i see. so if i would've ran something like network-config, it would've reconfigured the nic?
[04:05] <_hector_> Jordan_U: i'm powering on the server right now
[04:06] <_hector_> my supervisor almost throws it away.  it's a Dell PE T110.  its nice for tinkering with linux.
[04:08] <histo> vino was the package I was looking for earlier.
[04:09] <_hector_> Jordan_U: installed: 1.361
[04:10] <_hector_> just ran 'apt install xubuntu-desktop'
[05:04] <lotuspsychje> good morning to all
[06:00] <cathode> hi
[06:01] <cathode> i'm trying to force rename a network interface to a meaningful name but it's "not working" and i'm not sure how to look to see why it's not working
[06:01] <cathode> using ubuntu 17.04
[06:02] <cathode> https://www.punyal.com/2016/08/18/ubuntu-16-04-rename-a-network-interface/ <-- using this method
[06:23] <rsv> All of a sudden my Wifi Connections are not listed on my ubuntu  laptop. i need to reboot to fix the issue. i tried restarting the network from commandline shell and it makes no difference
[06:24] <rsv> can anyone help me on this. whats the issue with wifi networks on ubuntu
[06:24] <rsv> Ubuntu does not display any access points: please see: http://picpaste.com/pics/wifi-LHKPDEEX.1501654952.png
[06:36] <Jordan_U> rsv: Please pastebin the output of "lspci -vv -k".
[06:52] <rsv> Jordan_U: https://pastebin.ca/3849875
[06:54] <Jordan_U> rsv: Odd that you're having problems with an Atheros chip. Does "sudo rmmod ath9k && sudo modprobe ath9k" get things working again?
[06:55] <t2mkn> ffprobe or avprobe which is better to use ?
[06:55] <rsv> Jordan_U: no, its the same, Wifi networks are not listed
[06:56] <Jordan_U> t2mkn: For most uses probably equivalent. I'd go with ffprobe as ffmpeg is better maintained than libav.
[06:56] <rsv> Jordan_U: when i do that, I dont see "Enable Wifi" in the network applet
[06:57] <sary> you may want to check rfkill status..
[06:57] <t2mkn> Jordan_U thanks.
[06:57] <Jordan_U> t2mkn: You're welcome.
[06:59] <rsv> sary: 0: ideapad_wlan: Wireless LAN 	Soft blocked: no 	Hard blocked: no
[07:02] <Jordan_U> rsv: Please pastebin the output of "iwlist scan".
[07:04] <rsv> Jordan_U: i think the interface is not listed. ifconfig -a does not show the wifi interface
[07:04] <mrig> Hello
[07:04] <rsv> Jordan_U: this happened after i did a rmmod and modproble
[07:04] <rsv> ^modprobe
[07:04] <Jordan_U> rsv: Did either command produce any error message?
[07:05] <rsv> Nope
[07:05] <Jordan_U> rsv: Please pastebin the output of "dmesg".
[07:06] <rsv> Jordan_U: the dmesg shows full of error messages related to wifi
[07:06] <rsv> https://pastebin.ca/3849880
[07:07] <mrig> I am trying to mount a system in chroot and need to mount some of the folders, can I have a little help with the nomenclature; I have this so far but my information source is a little out of date ... :~ http://sprunge.us/KXVJ
[07:08] <mrig> I am getting an error for the type field
[07:08] <mrig> Oh this is from the fstab
[07:17] <sary> rsv: so the deive/driver crashes, when did this behaviour started ! which ubuntu/kernel version you're flyin'!
[07:18] <sary> It's an odd bevaviour for an Atheros chip really..
[07:22] <rsv> I used 16.04 Ubuntu with the same results and i upgraded to 17.04 and i see the same results
[07:30] <Jordan_U> rsv: Looks like your dmesg paste expired. Please pastebin it again.
[07:57] <limbo_> What's the quickest way of getting a list of enabled PPAs, and manually installed packages on an ubuntu system?
[07:57] <limbo_> I'm setting up a new machine.
[07:59] <lotuspsychje> limbo_: we dont support external ppa's here
[08:00] <lotuspsychje> limbo_: or you want a list of the default sources?
[08:00] <ducasse> lotuspsychje: apt-mark showmanual
[08:00] <ducasse> limbo_: ^^
[08:01] <ducasse> sorry 'bout that
[08:01] <lotuspsychje> no worries
[08:02] <lotuspsychje> limbo_: if your goal is to install packages you like from current system to a new system perhaps try 'aptoncd' ?
[08:02] <ducasse> or apt-offline
[08:03] <ducasse> i mean apt-clone
[08:32] <mitmf> how can i install osmocom_fft?
[08:32] <mitmf> on ubuntu?
[08:34] <ducasse> mitmf: sudo apt install gr-osmosdr
[08:34] <mitmf> thanks ducasse :)
[08:40] <mitmf> how can i install rfcat?
[08:44] <ducasse> mitmf: type 'rfcat' on the command line, press enter and it will tell you.
[08:44] <mitmf> The program 'rfcat' is currently not installed. You can install it by typing:
[08:44] <mitmf> sudo apt install dpm   ducasse
[08:44] <ducasse> mitmf: that's it, yes
[08:45] <mitmf> thanks but why i can’t excute osmocom_fft command?
[08:45] <mitmf> ducasse:
[08:45] <ducasse> mitmf: don't know, what does it say?
[08:46] <mitmf> you don’t know osmocom_fft?
[08:46] <ducasse> mitmf: not at all, nor do i have any idea what it says when you try to run it on your machine
[08:47] <mitmf> ok thanks :)
[08:47] <ducasse> mitmf: if you tell me the error i'll try to help
[08:49] <mitmf> https://pastebin.com/8Qz9Qsvn  ducasse
[08:50] <ducasse> mitmf: "FATAL: No supported devices found to pick from." - it can't find a device it supports
[08:50] <mitmf> thanks :)
[08:51] <lotuspsychje> mitmf: https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/discuss-gnuradio/2015-01/msg00160.html
[08:52] <mitmf> ok lotuspsychje :)
[09:04] <mitmf> sudo apt install dpm  ducasse <— but i want to remove dpm. then how can i do? ducasse ?
[09:05] <lotuspsychje> mitmf: if it can help, there is a #gnuradio channel also
[09:06] <mitmf> but i want to delete dpm now lotuspsychje :(
[09:06] <ducasse> mitmf: that will also remove rfcat
[09:06] <mitmf> sudo apt install dpm <— i install it with this command, but i want to delete it
[09:06] <mitmf> ok
[09:08] <mitmf> sudo apt install dpm <— i install it with this command, but i want to delete it help me ducasse ?
[09:08] <lotuspsychje> mitmf: sudo apt purge your-package-name
[09:09] <mitmf> cloud?
[09:11] <ducasse> mitmf: what?
[09:11] <mitmf> i wan to delete dpm, then how can i do?
[09:11] <ducasse> mitmf: like lotus says, just replace 'install' with 'purge'
[09:11] <mitmf> oh :) purge means ‘delete’?
[09:12] <ducasse> yes
[09:13] <mitmf> sudo apt purge dpm  <— this command is correct? ducasse ?
[09:14] <ducasse> yes
[09:14] <mitmf> thanks :)
[09:28] <Xatenev_> Hi
[09:28] <lotuspsychje> Xatenev_: welcome
[09:28] <Xatenev_> What is the best way to add a permanent static route?
[09:29] <Xatenev_> It seems there are a ton of different ways - some work - some didnt seem to work for me :p
[09:29] <lotuspsychje> Xatenev_: perhaps a question for ##networking ?
[09:29] <Xatenev_> lotuspsychje, Hm i dont think so?
[09:29] <ducasse> Xatenev_: which ubuntu version?
[09:29] <Xatenev_> lotuspsychje, Its not really about the network part - but about which file in linux would be useful for this
[09:29] <Xatenev_> ducasse, sec
[09:29] <lotuspsychje> Xatenev_: ok
[09:29] <Xatenev_> ducasse, 16.04.1-Ubuntu
[09:30] <Xatenev_>  #49~16.04.1-Ubuntu
[09:30] <ducasse> Xatenev_: then maybe /etc/rc.local
[09:30] <Xatenev_> ducasse, any link what I have to type in there?
[09:30] <Xatenev_> ducasse, I saw people writing /sbin/route but it doesnt work for me - I have to use sudo
[09:30] <Xatenev_> to do it
[09:31] <Xatenev_> Or does it work when I type it in rc.local and it won't ask me for sudo
[09:31] <ducasse> Xatenev_: just add your command before the 'exit 0', and you don't need sudo -it's run as root
[09:31] <Xatenev_> ducasse, I will try it out
[09:31] <Xatenev_> have to restart my pc
[09:31] <Xatenev_> ducasse, brb!
[09:33] <Xatenev_> ducasse, hello
[09:33] <Xatenev_> it didnt work
[09:33] <Xatenev_> =(
[09:33] <Xatenev_> ducasse, I typed in: /sbin/route add -net 10.10.0.0/16 gw 192.168.0.192
[09:33] <lotuspsychje> !info ifupdown-extra | Xatenev_ can this help?
[09:34] <ducasse> Xatenev_: did you add it before the 'exit 0'?
[09:34] <Xatenev_> ducasse, sure
[09:34] <Xatenev_> ducasse, http://termbin.com/9yl4
[09:34] <Xatenev_> this is my /etc/rc.local
[09:34] <ducasse> Xatenev_: hmmm. that should run after the networking stuff is up. how do you configure networking?
[09:35] <Xatenev_> ducasse, not sure what you mean
[09:35] <ducasse> Xatenev_: are you using network manager or /etc/network/interfaces?
[09:35] <Xatenev_> ducasse, the latter
[09:35] <Xatenev_> i think so atleast
[09:35] <Xatenev_> LOl
[09:36] <Xatenev_> ducasse, no im sorry
[09:36] <Xatenev_> I used the network amnager
[09:36] <Xatenev_> but inside my /etc/network/interfaces I wrote `up route add -net ...` and it didnt work either
[09:36] <Xatenev_> Is it because I configured it with the network manager and it all won't work then?
[09:37] <ducasse> you can't just mix and match, and that's not how /e/n/interfaces works
[09:37] <Xatenev_> thats super dumb btw
[09:37] <Xatenev_> :P
[09:37] <Xatenev_> dunno I read that in some tutorial
[09:37] <Xatenev_> that you can write it in there.
[09:38] <Xatenev_> ducasse, Any ideas how to solve it?
[09:38] <ducasse> Xatenev_: you can't write it just as a command, but it can be a post-up of an interface stanza
[09:38] <ducasse> Xatenev_: hang on
[09:39] <ducasse> Xatenev_: try this - https://askubuntu.com/questions/885232/adding-static-route-in-ubuntu#885372
[09:40] <Xatenev_> ducasse, What is ifupdown-extra?
[09:40] <Xatenev_> ducasse, Does that make that I can mix file & network amnager?
[09:41] <Xatenev_> ducasse, My file isn't called network-routes but only routes
[09:41] <Xatenev_> I guess its the same though?
[09:42] <ducasse> i'm guessing so, look at the contents
[09:43] <Xatenev_> looks okay
[09:43] <Xatenev_> Just have to find out what kind of subnet mask /16 is
[09:43] <Xatenev_> :D
[09:43] <ducasse> Xatenev_: 'apt show subnetcalc' ;)
[09:49] <Xatenev_> ducasse, u still around
[09:50] <lotuspsychje> Xatenev_: he's afk for a while
[09:50] <Xatenev_> nooo
[09:50] <Xatenev_> :p
[09:50] <Xatenev_> usually I type in this: sudo route add -net 10.10.0.0/16 gw 192.168.0.192
[09:50] <lotuspsychje> Xatenev_: to get your issue solved, re-ask in this channel once in a while
[09:50] <Xatenev_> I did what ducasse said before and installed this network extra thing
[09:50] <Xatenev_> Then I edited /etc/network/routes
[09:50] <Xatenev_> It looks like this http://termbin.com/75b4
[09:50] <Xatenev_> => it doesnt work
[09:50] <Xatenev_> no route being added.
[09:51] <Xatenev_> route -n doesn't show any new route at all
[09:51] <lotuspsychje> Xatenev_: i suggest you try the ##networking channel, they are used to this every day
[09:51] <Xatenev_> ok
[10:14] <dorico> when I send through the mail command in the bash from "user" , The recipient receive from : Ubuntu <user@hostname>
[10:15] <dorico> How can I change the "Ubuntu" string ?
[10:15] <dorico> is this anything relative to the user information ?
[10:25] <BluesKaj> Hey folks
[10:30] <ducasse> dorico: that is picked up from the full name field in /etc/passwd
[10:58] <limbo_> Is there any simple way to get ubuntu to use a second drive as /home without doing all of the partitioning myself? I always screw something up if I do it manually, and will have to edit fstab and manually copy my home folder after the fact if I use the default ("install Ubuntu 17.04 on this disk") installation option.
[11:04] <SchrodingersScat> limbo_: not as far as I know.  what do you normally end up doing wrong?
[11:05] <oerheks> simplest way would be during install, choose 'something else' and use your mouse to switch /home/ to your 2nd drive
[11:05] <oerheks> or after install, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Partitioning/Home/Moving
[11:08] <limbo_> SchrodingersScat: the first time, grub failed to install on my ssd for some reason. (I may have partitioned the drives wrong)
[11:08] <limbo_> oerheks: by using "change"?
[11:09] <limbo_> I'll probably follow that guide.
[11:09] <limbo_> Since I want to copymy home folder from another machine anyway.
[11:10] <limbo_> Is EXT4 still the suggested filesystem? Or, would another one be better for general use on either an ssd or hdd?
[11:10] <hateball> If you need to ask, ext4 :)
[11:12] <limbo_> I'm aware of advantages to other filesystems, but my concern is losing data.
[11:13] <hateball> well if your afraid of losing data, then keeping backups is a good idea
[11:13] <hateball> you're* (lack of coffee)
[11:14] <SchrodingersScat> limbo_: there's a lot of personal preference here.  I use ext4 for my / because it's easiest with the install.  I use a zfs raidz for a local copy of things I need, and then duplicity for offsite backups.
[11:27] <limbo_> SchrodingersScat: I mean between the options I get at install time.
[11:51] <A[D]minS> Hi guys!
[11:51] <A[D]minS> anyone alive for a question regarding VNC
[12:10] <oskie> hey, xenial introduced some feature that automatically does 'apt-get update' at a random time during the day. Is there a way to schedule this command? I run my own apt-get mirror so there is no negative impact
[12:14] <scottjl> oskie: https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/315502/how-to-disable-apt-daily-service-on-ubuntu-cloud-vm-image
[12:14] <oskie> scottjl: nice, thanks
[12:14] <scottjl> disable it and throw your own schedule into cron
[12:18] <c06> hi all
[12:18] <c06> ubuntu vm will /etc/fstab in resume state.??
[12:19] <c06> becoz facing issue in mounting network using /etc/fstab in vm resume
[12:19] <c06> **mounting san
[12:20] <scottjl> is there a question in there?
[12:21] <Koopz> eyyy... i've got some kind of problem over here with my dpkg/apt-get ...i tried to upgrade jenkins but the upgrade fails in the process due to it finding "an incorrect Java version". apt-get now reports there's an incomplete install or remove and i can't install/remove anything until that thing is resolved
[12:22] <Koopz> i can't even remove jenkins due to dpkg failing to configure jenkins
[12:24] <c06> i am mounting san lun in my ubuntu VM using fstab, i halted the vm and started it, but i am unable to find the networkfolder
[12:24] <scottjl> c06: you need to remount it
[12:25] <scottjl> c06: or throw it into automounter and have it mounted on demand
[12:25] <c06> but /etc/fstab i mentioned the uuid and location
[12:25] <scottjl> if it's a san mount. you're going to lose it when you suspend the vm and it comes down. resume won't remount it
[12:26] <c06> scottjl: ty what about NFS.?
[12:26] <scottjl> you're going to have the same issue.
[12:27] <scottjl> c06: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Autofs
[12:27] <c06> scottjl: i need to do manually any option to automate.?
[12:27] <c06> scottjl: ty dude. this is the one i am looking for
[12:28] <scottjl> no problem
[12:29] <c06> scottjl: if i configure with autofs resume operation also it will mount, whenever i access it
[12:29] <scottjl> c06: it should.
[12:29] <scottjl> c06: obviously your network needs to be up and the host available
[12:30] <c06> nice dude and ty.. host means SAN or NFS.?
[12:30] <scottjl> suspending vm's can be wonky some times though. because the system doesn't really know it was suspended.
[12:30] <scottjl> the san
[12:30] <scottjl> you can't suspend. go somewhere else where the san isn't available, resume, and expect it to work
[12:31] <c06> ok i will make a try.
[12:31] <Koopz> not even dpkg --remove --force-remove-reinstreq jenkins removed the package
[12:33] <scottjl> dpkg-reconfigure jenkins ?
[12:34] <Koopz> jenkins is broken or not completely installed
[12:34] <scottjl> apt-get purge jenkins
[12:35] <Koopz> pre-removal-script return error code 1
[12:35] <scottjl> ya you're going to have to rip that out by hand
[12:35] <Koopz> ffs
[12:36] <Koopz> any good link to the steps that need to be done?
[12:37] <scottjl> have you tried apt-get -f install ?
[12:37] <Koopz> post-validation-script returned error code 1
[12:37] <scottjl> does it give you the path to the script?
[12:38] <Koopz> nope
[12:38] <scottjl> apt-get install --reinstall jenkins ?
[12:39] <Koopz> https://gist.github.com/Koopzington/4732005f877bfe8b2c730e9cfbabca3c
[12:39] <Koopz> sorry for german locale :P
[12:39] <scottjl> rm /var/cache/apt/archives/jenkins_2.72_all.deb
[12:40] <scottjl> apt-get install --reinstall jenkins
[12:40] <scottjl> see if that fixes it
[12:41] <Koopz> same output
[12:41] <Koopz> 'cept that the package got downloaded again of couse
[12:42] <pankaj_> Sometimes while I turn on my wifi it does not shows any connection even though my home connection is on. So I have to restart my Laptop. What should I do to resolve it?
[12:44] <scottjl> Koopz: ok. so dpkg -x /var/cache/apt/archives/jenkins*.deb /tmp/jenkins
[12:45] <scottjl> go into /tmp/jenkins and try and find where that script is
[12:45] <scottjl> then find it in your file system
[12:45] <scottjl> i'd try sticking "exit 0" at the top of it.
[12:45] <solars> hey, if I have installed ttf fonts and fc-list lists them, how do I generate a fontline to be used with .Xdefaults (urxvt)? Somehow xfontsel does not list them
[12:45] <scottjl> then do apt-get purge jenkins  and see if it will get purged out
[12:47] <Koopz> scottjl, am i supposed to find those pre-, post- and other scripts in /tmp/jenkins?
[12:47] <scottjl> yep
[12:47] <scottjl> that should have exploded the .deb into /tmp/jenkins
[12:47] <scottjl> you're going to have to do some hunting around
[12:48] <Koopz> there's no script in there... only default configs for logrotate.d, init.d and a war file
[12:48] <Koopz> all other folders are empty
[12:50] <scottjl> there's gotta be an install script in there somewhere
[12:50] <scottjl> it might not be titled "install script"
[12:50] <Koopz> could it be located in the war file?
[12:51] <Koopz> on the other hand... there's got to be a script telling ubuntu to unpack the war at some point
[12:51] <scottjl> maybe. i don't have the .deb to poke through myself (and really no time to get it, sorry)
[12:54] <madLyfe> anyone recommend a good android ssh client?
[12:55] <madLyfe> JuiceSSH comes up first.
[12:55] <scottjl> +1 juicessh
[12:55] <Koopz> +1
[12:59] <madLyfe> so if i want to connect via ssh from outside my network what does the addy look like?
[12:59] <scottjl> it would probably look like the address from your router/firewall. and you'd need a port forward to your server
[13:00] <madLyfe> 1 port per server?
[13:00] <jntme> what is the difference between service and systemctl?
[13:01] <jntme> just searched 20 minutes for a service in systemctl and found it now under service
[13:02] <scottjl> madLyfe: you need to make port 22 from your server available to outside your network.
[13:02] <scottjl> jntme: service is for init scripts, systemctl is part of systemd. they both handle starting services, but differently.
[13:05] <jntme> scottjl thx :) I just ask my self why there are so many ways to manage services on every platform
[13:05] <jntme> kind of annoying
[13:06] <scottjl> jntme: because every few years someone comes along and thinks they can reinvent the wheel "better" and creates yet a new method that gets tacked ontop of the old ones.
[13:06] <jntme> scottjl awesome
[13:07] <scottjl> jntme: i expect in another 10 years or so someone will come up with yet another method and add that to the mix
[13:07] <jntme> serviceeeees IN THA MIX
[13:08] <scottjl> you can't get rid of the old ways because there is a lot of software that isn't (or won't be) updated to the latest method
[13:08] <jntme> I see
[13:08] <jntme> not that bad after all
[13:08] <scottjl> so we have system v init scripts, service scripts and now systemd.
[13:08] <jntme> the 'newer' soutions will be better somehow I guess
[13:09] <scottjl> that depends on who you ask
[13:09] <jntme> so systemd is the most actual one?
[13:09] <madLyfe> checking for updates is just sudo update?
[13:09] <scottjl> systemd is the most recent. a lot of stuff doesn't support it yet
[13:09] <scottjl> a lot never will
[13:09] <jntme> mke
[13:10] <jntme> scottjl thx a lot for clearing that up
[13:10] <scottjl> jntme: https://askubuntu.com/questions/903354/difference-between-systemctl-and-service
[13:22] <mitmf> cmake ..    <— what it means?
[13:23] <oerheks> !info cmake
[13:24] <mitmf> oerheks: what you mean? i have no idea
[13:24] <mitmf> :(
[13:24] <mitmf> https://github.com/miek/inspectrum/wiki/Build
[13:24] <scottjl> mitmf: try "man cmake"
[13:24] <oerheks> we usually don't use cmake, just make https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware#Compiling_the_Package
[13:24] <mitmf> No manual entry for cmake
[13:25] <scottjl> then you need to install it
[13:25] <mitmf> scottjl: how?
[13:25] <oerheks> if it is not installed, no man page logically
[13:25] <scottjl> apt install cmake
[13:25] <mitmf> thanks
[13:25] <mitmf> :)
[13:25] <scottjl> it's a program for compiling software
[13:25] <oerheks> err compiling software and not been able to find such info ??
[13:25] <TsakNorris> i have question.
[13:26] <mitmf> https://github.com/miek/inspectrum/wiki/Build   <—— why guy make build folder?
[13:26] <scottjl> cmake is sort of a precursor. it builds what you need to build.
[13:26] <TsakNorris> Where i find file for adduser command? im interested generated folders what it does
[13:26] <scottjl> he's having it build the needed files into the build directory
[13:27] <scottjl> different platforms need different files to make the software
[13:27] <TsakNorris> i want to delete all files and only make empty home folder what is accessed by default with GUI
[13:28] <TsakNorris> useradd will do what i want, but is too barebone. adduser does too much :D
[13:28] <mitmf> cd build —> cmake ..   : they move to build folder, then what is next?
[13:29] <scottjl> well from the page you gave: make, sudo make install
[13:29] <scottjl> you should be following "building on debian-based distros"
[13:32] <TsakNorris> the problem is that, folders are created only after new user is first time logged in. before that you can't find them
[13:33] <scottjl> TsakNorris: and a lot of those folders have config files that are set up with specific user information when they are created. so making skeleton files would be a bit of work
[13:35] <TsakNorris> scottjl: hmmm... i like skel folder that everything you add there will come to new users, but Desktop,Downloads plaaplaa all folders are made before SKEL so maybe i just stick to my old plan and try to remove them with BASH script afterward :/
[13:37] <scottjl> why are you worried about removing them?
[13:40] <TsakNorris> scottjl: well i have done own clock card machine what generates users and give them contract times plaaplaa. people log in with my linux before start working :)
[13:41] <TsakNorris> i think i just figured something out. i will approach this problem in different way :D. Thank you anyway :)
[13:44] <jimbju> Hi, is there any official landscape channel?
[13:49] <BluesKaj> jimbju, there is, but only a few people there
[13:50] <jimbju> BluesKaj: It's this one #landscape ?
[13:50] <BluesKaj> yes
[13:51] <t0th_-_> how i can solve loop login screen ?
[13:52] <jimbju> it doesn't seem very official :)
[13:52] <grimmhere> t0th_-_: actually I had the same problem when I installed ubuntu budgie
[13:53] <grimmhere> I wish I could remember how I fixed it
[13:53] <t0th_-_> i am using 17.04
[13:53] <grimmhere> yeah me too
[13:53] <grimmhere> oh I remember.. it was actually in virtualbox and it was due to 3d acceleration
[13:54] <grimmhere> so I just switched it off
[13:54] <grimmhere> basically if you have a login loop, it probably means there's something wrong with your xserver
[14:03] <imbezol_> i'm finding that videos are choppy when there's movement. anything i can check to try to make them smoother?
[14:04] <imbezol_> youtube, specifically
[14:04] <imbezol_> tried firefox and chrome
[14:10] <lobocode> Hi guy's! I need help with this script: https://pastebin.com/raw/Z4yrwfVu How to fix this?
[14:14] <shayr> hi all
[14:14] <shayr> is it possible to use rsync to migrate a server while booted or do i need to boot both servers into some kind of rescue environment?
[14:16] <reedjc> On ubuntu 14.04 I have a Western Digital My Passport 4TB USB disk that tries to be /dev/loop0. parted says it is:
[14:16] <reedjc> Model:  (file)
[14:16] <reedjc> Disk /dev/sdb1: 1447MB
[14:16] <reedjc> I can use it with ubuntu 16.04 though and mount the ext4 fs that is on it.
[14:17] <reedjc> Why would this say "loop" ...?
[14:17] <reedjc> $ sudo mount -t ext4 /dev/sdb1 /bigdisk
[14:17] <reedjc> mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/loop0,
[14:17] <scottjl> what is it formatted as? i'm guessing exfs
[14:18] <jamie_1> hey guy, im having some issues with my accessibility settings for some odd reason the visual alerts on on but they are not actually working
[14:18] <scottjl> exfat sorry
[14:18] <reedjc> Wow this is not a device:   -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1447034880 Aug  1 16:14 /dev/sdb1
[14:18] <scottjl> reedjc: i'm guessing your drive is exfat and 14.04 isn't handling it because you don't have exfat drivers installed
[14:20] <jamie_1> when it comes to accessibility settings im not sure how they are actually playing with the system and how to look into seeing why the visual alerts are not longer working
[14:22] <reedjc> Ha ha. That is so odd. So I moved the bogus file out of the way. Unplugged and plugged the USB disk back iin and a real device appeared:
[14:22] <reedjc> brw-rw---- 1 root disk 8, 17 Aug  2 09:20 /dev/sdb1
[14:22] <reedjc> And now I can mount the 3.4TB disk (lost half advertised terabyte)
[14:23] <scottjl> that seems like a lot.
[14:23] <reedjc> scottjl  thanks for the reply, lucky that was not it
[14:24] <scottjl> reedjc: no worries. hard to guess on limited information
[14:24] <reedjc> ack
[14:37] <bipul> If i have to reset the password for root. What shell i type inside GNU Grub - ?
[14:37] <bipul> rd.break console=tty1 is sufficient? to get me into switch_root?
[14:40] <EriC^^> bipul: yeah, you can also try "init=/bin/bash"
[14:45] <bipul> EriC^^: Thank you.
[14:45] <EriC^^> no problem
[14:50] <jdfish> just a heads up, ubuntu.com is giving "503 Service Unavailable" error
[15:05] <Langley> Hi, does anyone use the "Install security updates automatically" option? It doesn't seem to work on my machine
[15:10] <pavlos> jdfish: seems to be working now
[15:11] <jdfish> pavlos: just checked, yeah, it is. thanks to whoever fixed it :)
[15:15] <alazyworkaholic> I haven't been able to browse when I moved my desktop to a new LAN but I can ping 8.8.8.8. The LAN gateway runs on 192.168.6.1  /etc/resolve.conf shows "#Generated by Network Manager\name server 192.168.1.1 I suspect this is a problem. How to fix, so I can move between LANs?
[15:16] <leftyfb> alazyworkaholic: set your network manager connection to dhcp and make sure your browser isn't configured for any proxies
[15:21] <alazyworkaholic> leftyfb: thanks. It was dhcp, already. Network Manager has been spamming me after logging in with "an internal error has occurred messages". I'll try upgrading.
[15:21] <leftyfb> alazyworkaholic: what version of ubuntu are you running?
[15:26] <rfleming> Good morning!  How do I get driverless to search across a domain?
[15:27] <rfleming> right now it's listing printers on the domain .local
[15:27] <rfleming> (and not showing all available printers)
[15:35] <arooni_team_b> how can i detect via the command line that i'm connected to a vpn?  i'm using vpn unlimited's client which uses openvpn as a backend
[15:36] <aotaointbin> arooni_team_b: `curl ifconfig.co`
[15:37] <arooni_team_b> well that just tells me my ip address isnt what it normally is
[15:37] <arooni_team_b> but what is a 'normal' ip address
[15:37] <aotaointbin> wat
[15:37] <aotaointbin> it tells you your public ip address.
[15:37] <leftyfb> arooni_team_b: ifconfig tun0 &> /dev/null && echo -e "\033[1;32m" "-- VPN is active --" "\033[1m" || echo -e "\033[1;31m" "-- VPN NOT is active --" "\033[0m"
[15:38] <leftyfb> arooni_team_b: ifconfig tun0 &> /dev/null && echo -e "\033[1;32m" "-- VPN is active --" "\033[1m" || echo -e "\033[1;31m" "-- VPN NOT active --" "\033[0m"
[15:39] <Xatenev_> Hello
[15:39] <Xatenev_> is there any possibility to clear the terminal screen when inside tail -f
[15:39] <leftyfb> Xatenev_: no. Why do you need it?
[15:39] <BluesKaj> aotaointbin,  I use this to find which IP my VPN is connected, wget http://ipinfo.io/ip -qO -
[15:39] <Xatenev_> leftyfb, well it would be handy because i have my error log constantly open
[15:40] <Xatenev_> leftyfb, and when I wanna look for a specific err I'd love to not have the tons of error history
[15:40] <arooni_team_b> leftyfb: thanks;  how do i tell which interface is vpn?  is it tun0 salways?
[15:40] <leftyfb> Xatenev_: you could look into multitail. I'm not sure if there's a clear function, but if you hit enter, it does add in a clear delineation
[15:40] <Xatenev_> multitail
[15:40] <Xatenev_> never heard of that
[15:40]  * Xatenev_ googling
[15:41] <leftyfb> arooni_team_b: not sure. Look at your setup
[15:41] <the_k> did ubuntu ever make a decent build for a phone?
[15:41] <the_k> mr ubuntu
[15:41] <leftyfb> the_k: There is no longer any ubuntu phone development. It's an offtopic discussion now.
[15:42] <Xatenev_> leftyfb, I think this is actually exactly what i needed
[15:42] <Xatenev_> leftyfb, thank you
[15:43] <leftyfb> Does anyone know how to properly redirect output from a systemd unit to a specified log? I'm not looking to use journald at all.
[15:44] <mitmf> how can i delete osmocom_fft?
[15:45] <leftyfb> mitmf: just like any other package. How did you install it?
[15:45] <mitmf> yeah, but i don’t know package name.
[15:47] <leftyfb> mitmf: how did you install it?
[15:47] <arooni_team_b> how do i change the name that deluge runs as
[15:47] <mitmf> leftyfb: oh preinstalled
[15:47] <leftyfb> mitmf: it's not preinstalled in the default ubuntu installation
[15:47] <leftyfb> mitmf: gr-osmosdr is the package name
[15:48] <leftyfb> mitmf: I used apt-file to find it
[15:48] <leftyfb> arooni_team_b: huh?
[15:48] <mitmf> oh then sudo apt-get purge gr-osmosdr ? ok?
[15:48] <leftyfb> mitmf: try it
[15:48] <arooni_team_b> leftyfb: if i can make deluge run not as my current logged in user; its easier to route the traffic via my vpn exclusively
[15:48] <leftyfb> mitmf: you need "remove" in there
[15:50] <leftyfb> arooni_team_b: su -c "/usr/bin/deluge" usernamegoeshere
[15:50] <hehehe> hey hey
[15:50] <arooni_team_b> leftyfb: id need to create that new user first right;  should it have a home directory?
[15:50] <mitmf> sudo apt remove gr-osmosdr   ok leftyfb ?
[15:50] <hehehe> what would be a neat way to mass replace a text string in a file with an another string
[15:51] <leftyfb> mitmf: try it
[15:51] <leftyfb> hehehe: sed
[15:51] <leftyfb> hehehe: or vim
[15:51] <hehehe> I mean mass replace recursively
[15:51] <hehehe> in all files
[15:52] <leftyfb> hehehe: sed
[15:52] <nacc> hehehe: find and sed
[15:52] <mitmf> i got it leftyfb :)
[15:52] <hehehe> like find . -type f -exec sed -i 's/foo/bar/g' {} +  also can work?
[15:53] <leftyfb> hehehe: sounds like you already know how to do this. Test it
[15:54] <ppw> how do I image a fresh-installed Ubuntu partition and apply it to other devices?
[15:54] <hehehe> well yes i can back and test true
[15:55] <leftyfb> ppw: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DriveImaging
[15:57] <ppw> dd? is it really that simple?
[15:58] <leftyfb> ppw: yes
[15:58] <leftyfb> ppw: there's other tools like clonezilla you could look into
[15:58] <mitmf> Found PkgConfig: /usr/bin/pkg-config (found version "0.29.1")
[15:58] <mitmf> -- Checking for module 'gruel'
[15:58] <mitmf> --   No package 'gruel' found   <— what’s wrong?
[15:58] <ppw> leftyfb: bwahaha this is awesome. the era of waiting Ubuntu to install and update on slower devices is over.
[16:11] <hggdh> mitmf: it means you are missing the development package(s) for this gruel
[16:12] <mitmf> ok thanks hggdh :)
[16:14] <hehehe> find /home/ubuntu/dir -type f -exec sed -i 's/spring/spring1/g' {} +    this works however what do I do when text string is https://
[16:14] <hehehe> it seems those extra // confuse command
[16:15] <hggdh> mitmf: a quick search suggests gruel-dev is no longer available
[16:15] <mitmf> ok thanks hggdh :)
[16:15] <hehehe> sed: -e expression #1, char 5: unknown option to `s'
[16:16] <geirha> use a different separator for the s command, e.g. instead of s/foo/bar/  you can write  s,foo,bar, or s|foo|bar|
[16:17] <hehehe> cool ty
[16:17] <geirha> so pick a character that won't exist in the pattern or replacement
[16:17] <hehehe> I see
[16:30] <donofrio> What do you folks use for Corp Web Search crawler appliance/project?
[16:43] <lobocode> Hi guys, Is there any way to remove a user while reboot the system?
[16:47] <teward> lobocode: "remove a user while reboot the system" - you mean like at boot, issue a command to delete a user?
[16:47] <teward> at *every* boot?
[16:49] <lobocode> teward: Only in the next bot once.
[16:50] <lobocode> teward: Exactly, a command to exclude the user.
[16:50] <lobocode> remove, delete...
[16:51] <teward> lobocode: 'remove', not 'exclude'.  The only way I know to do this would be a script, which I would probably have pushed down by remote management, first step delete user forcefully, second step reboot.
[16:53] <nemo> heh. my coworker is still so super overjoyed at how well 14.04 works compared to the horror show that was 16.04, came by my cubicle to marvel at the fact that he was able to close his laptop lid, go home, come back, and have the machine start and not have a corrupted HD
[16:54] <nemo> and touchpad "just working"
[16:54] <nemo> he's busy installing MATE and being very happy
[16:54] <hehehe> :)
[16:54] <nemo> thank goodness 14.04 is supported until 2019
[16:56] <hehehe> find . -name "file*" I get matches but for dirs
[16:56] <hehehe> do I need to add -f ?
[16:56] <hehehe> find . -f -name "file*"  ?
[16:57] <nemo> -type f
[16:57] <nemo> hehehe: . is implied in GNU find btw
[16:58] <nemo> I suggested my coworker file a launchpad bug detailing 'sactly how hard more recent releases failed on him, but he didn't think he'd be able to keep his language under control ☺
[17:03] <ignacio> Hello o/
[17:03] <ignacio> Anyone knows why htcacheclean is not cleaning the cache?
[17:20] <ralph_> hi all
[17:24] <RalphBa> short question, how can I add cryptsetup to initrd?
[17:34] <theos> hi
[17:51] <Zythyr> Need help. I setup a LAMP server on Ubuntu 14 LTS. I change teh configurations of the roo directory so it points to /home/my_username/www. Eveyrhting works, but when I point the browswer to "localhost", it gives me persmission error. Do I need to fix some permissions?
[17:52] <nemo> Zythyr: typically you need +x on all dirs up to www
[17:52] <nemo> Zythyr: since otherwise apache can't even switch to that dir to read it
[17:52] <nemo> +x for whatever user/group apache is in
[17:52] <nemo> or world
[17:53] <Zythyr> nemo So does this mean I do "sudo chmod +x /home"?
[17:53] <Zythyr> or should I add my own username to apache group?
[17:53] <ViciousLooRoll> Should I use Ubuntu 16 or 17 on my vps. ?
[17:53] <nemo> Zythyr: other way around
[17:53] <Zythyr> nemo Sorry I didn't understand
[17:54] <nemo> Zythyr: you'd need some group that apache belongs to w/ rights to /home/zythyr
[17:54] <nemo> Zythyr: so like add apache to the zythyr group since by default ubuntu creates a group same as username when adding a user
[17:54] <Zythyr> nemo So what is the exact command I need to do? I am going to put my website under /home/Zythyr/www
[17:55] <nemo> Zythyr: overall I don't recommend what you are doing btw
[17:55] <nemo> why do you want www under /home/Zythr?
[17:55] <nemo> Zythyr: if you want a convenient link, just use a symlink
[17:55] <oerheks> nemo +1 .. normally one would make the user member of www-data
[17:55] <nemo> Zythyr: not only is it needlessly convoluted, but a security risk
[17:56] <Zythyr> nemo But if I do symobilc link what permissions?
[17:56] <nemo> Zythyr: see what oerheks said
[17:56] <nemo> Zythyr: basically you just need to grant Zythyr access to whatever group /var/www or whatever the default is set to
[17:56] <oerheks> if you are member of www-data, it is easy to edit files in www
[17:56] <nemo> Zythyr: don't try to fight the config unless you really really know what you are doing ☺
[17:58] <Zythyr> oerheks nemo So I keep everything default and add Zythyr to the www-data group? Then I createa symbolic link to /var/www from /home/Zythyr/www?
[17:58] <nemo> yep
[17:58] <oerheks> .. then you don't need to be member of www-data, i guess
[17:58] <nemo> oerheks: hm? he still needs it
[17:58] <oerheks> silly move, website data in your home
[17:59] <nemo> oerheks: symlink doesn't grant magic access
[17:59] <nemo> it's just a shortcut
[17:59] <oerheks> still the localhost issue, not sure it gets solved this way..
[17:59] <nemo> oerheks: there's no harm in symlink - prior setup was very bad ofc
[17:59] <nemo> oerheks: if he leaves everything default, apache will have no trouble reading /var/www
[18:00] <nemo> oerheks: so that's most likely what his original prob was
[18:00] <oerheks> nemo, indeed, for the symlink you need root access, or beiing in the www-data group
[18:00] <nemo> oerheks: yeah. I was focusing on you saying he didn't need to be a member of it - symlink doesn't fix that - he still needs www-data (or sudo as you noted) to do edits to /var/www
[18:00] <termcap> hi, I am running 16.04 LTS, the sound on my headphone just peaks up from time to time tearing my ear drums :)
[18:01] <nemo> oerheks: regardless of symlink to his $HOME/www
[18:01] <termcap> is there some way I can get rid of these intermittent peaks ?
[18:01] <nemo> termcap: ouch. that sucks. try #pulseaudio
[18:01] <nemo> termcap: unless this is simply replaygain plus bad files?
[18:02] <termcap> nemo thanks
[18:05] <Zythyr> nemo My /var/www folder has root:root ownership. Why not www-data:www-data?
[18:05] <nemo> dunno. your system ☺
[18:05] <Zythyr> nemo I can't add or modify files in /var/www
[18:05] <nemo> Zythyr: chgrp www-data www
[18:06] <nemo> Zythyr: then add your user to that group using commandline or your favourite gui
[18:06] <Zythyr> nemo The owner is still root? So /var/www would have root:www-data?
[18:06] <nemo> Zythyr: sure if you like. up to you
[18:06] <oerheks> root is oke, d the user and group of things *inside* /var/www/ should not be root but apache or www-data ;) (see the apache.conf or sites-enabled for the correct one)
[18:06] <nemo> there's no fixed rule here ☺
[18:07] <nemo> FWIW I use
[18:07] <nemo> $ ls -ld /www/html
[18:07] <nemo> drwxrwsr-x 105 apache web 16384 Aug  1 16:00 /www/html
[18:07] <nemo> but my system is very old
[18:07] <nemo> the sticky bit is to avoid losing perms under /www/html
[18:08] <oerheks> ownership of /var/www/ = 754
[18:08] <nemo> and it is world readable 'cause I don't care much about anything under there ☺
[18:08] <oerheks> https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/serverguide/
[18:08] <termcap> how can I install the pulseadio-equalizer ?
[18:08] <nemo> termcap: unfamiliar w/ that - is it anything like pavucontrol?
[18:09]  * nemo fires up synaptic
[18:09] <termcap> nemo I think I can use that to solve the sound peak issue
[18:09] <termcap> https://linux.tutorials.id/en/howto-install-pulseaudio-equalizer-in-ubuntu/
[18:10] <effectnet> hello.  is it possible to enlarge your ubuntu partition?  A machine is dual boot, but has become useless for windows.  So I want to reclaim the space and make it just unbunt.
[18:10] <termcap> does ubuntu come with a default equilizer ?
[18:10] <nemo> effectnet: sure.
[18:10] <nemo> effectnet: should be able to do that from gparted
[18:10] <effectnet> nice
[18:10] <nocco> have any of you tried 17.10 yet? Is it buggy or is it something that I could use already? :)
[18:10] <nemo> effectnet: might want to keep the windows partition in case it is needed later
[18:10] <nemo> effectnet: like for a warranty thing or resale
[18:10] <oerheks> nocco, join #ubuntu+1 for support, until release
[18:10] <effectnet> oh thx nemo, but no i wanna blow it away
[18:10] <oerheks> !artful
[18:11] <nemo> effectnet: personally I do that, disable swap, uninstall as much as possible, compress it, then resize it to minimum it can
[18:11] <nocco> oerheks: Thanks!
[18:11] <nemo> effectnet: usually that is about 20 gigs unfortunately because windows
[18:11] <Zythyr> www-data group doens't exsist
[18:11] <oerheks> Zythyr, odd LAMP install then ..
[18:11] <oerheks> or did you install XAMPP ??
[18:12] <Zythyr> LAMP on Ubuntu 14 LTS
[18:12] <leftyfb> Zythyr: why did you install Ubuntu 14.04 and not 16.04?
[18:12] <Zythyr> leftyfb I needed it to install php5 by default. Ubuntu 16 does php7
[18:13] <leftyfb> Zythyr: regardless, if you setup a proper LAMP environment, on Ubuntu, then you most certainly should have the www-data group
[18:13] <leftyfb> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP
[18:13] <Zythyr> I used this command to install LAMP "sudo apt-get install lamp-server^"
[18:14] <leftyfb> Zythyr: what user does apache run under?
[18:14] <leftyfb> Zythyr: ps -ef |grep apache
[18:14] <glitsj16> termcap: the tutorial you linked to explains it, pulseaudio-equalizer is from the webupd8 team PPA
[18:15] <Zythyr> leftyfb It shows a list where one of them is roort and the others are www-data
[18:16] <leftyfb> Zythyr: sudo grep www-data /etc/passwd /etc/group
[18:20] <leftyfb> I'm trying to split out some lines from syslog into it's own log. I've used the SyslogIdentifier line in the service section of a systemd unit conf file to identify the service. This shows up in the syslog for each one I want to split out. I can't for the life of me get rsyslog to filter based on these identifiers.
[18:26] <Lafojwolf> Hey everyone. I'm having issues with my system crashing upon startup and shutdown, and I'm not sure exactly what might be causing it because it is completely random if it crashes or not--i.e., it's not consistently reproducible.
[18:27] <Lafojwolf> Here is my inxi pastebin: https://pastebin.com/q2dk4NBx
[18:28] <Lafojwolf> I turned off the splash for bootup, and it seems to crash near or around this error: [31.108127] snd_hda_intel 0000:00:1b.0: azx_get_response timeout, switching to single_cmd_mode: last cmd=0x103f0900
[18:29] <Lafojwolf> Whoops: it should say "switching to single_cmd mode"
[18:33] <Term1nal> I'm having great difficulty installing an Ubuntu system. I'm trying to do LUKS on RAID1
[18:34] <Term1nal> ubiquity keeps exploding itself trying to install grub
[18:34] <Term1nal> "failed to install to /target/"
[18:34] <Term1nal> then it crashes and I have to reboot the live disc
[18:41] <gde33> On lubuntu I've configued a bunch of wifi connections to auto connect when available using instructions provided by my isp and some home wifi modums, never any issues.
[18:41] <gde33> At work there is only 1 network within range, they gave me the password but I cant seem to connect to it.
[18:42] <leftyfb> gde33: you should probably contact your works IT department
[18:42] <gde33> If I just pick connect it doesn't ask for a pasword, it ends up sort of connected but it doesn't work
[18:42] <gde33> leftyfb: there isn't any :P
[18:43] <leftyfb> gde33: how did the wifi/router/internet get setup?
[18:43] <gde33> leftyfb: but there are some unsophisticated coworkers who've connected their phones to it.
[18:44] <gde33> from what I understand they were just prompted for a password by the phone
[18:45] <gde33> In edit connection there are a bunch of automatic settings, I was wondering if I should try set those?
[18:45] <max12345> hello, my friend is trying to install ubuntu but something is going wrong with the graphics so the screen turns off, he read it's trying to use onboard graphics. How can I disable that? my google-fu is failing me.
[18:45] <max12345> thanks
[18:45] <gde33> would installing network-manager-gnome help?
[18:46] <pavlos> max12345: use parameter nomodeset
[18:47] <gde33> leftyfb: I think it is an offical kind of work wifi installed and maintained by the phone company.
[18:47] <max12345> pavlos: yes, that's it I think, I remembered something like that
[18:47] <pavlos> max12345: https://askubuntu.com/questions/207175/what-does-nomodeset-do
[18:50] <Bashing-om> Lafojwolf: "Poulsbo" Just not great support from the provider . See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsVideoCardsPoulsbo ; https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Poulsbo for some hints as to what you might be able to do .
[18:52] <Term1nal> I seem to be unable to install grub to my system
[18:52] <ppf> i'm setting mouse acceleration through xinput. is there a way to persist this setting?
[18:52] <Term1nal> grub-install returns "cannot find EFI directory"
[18:53] <Term1nal> when I specifiy the directory to --efi-directory=/boot/efi, I get "/boot/efi doesn't look like an EFI partition"
[18:53] <histo> Term1nal: are you mounting your efi partition to /boot/efi?
[18:53] <Term1nal> /boot/efi is mounted in fstab to /dev/md0p1, which is fat32 ESP
[18:54] <histo> Term1nal: pastebin the output of mount and blkid
[18:56] <Term1nal> https://ghostbin.com/paste/n3bwo
[18:58] <Term1nal> histo: I forgot to add 'mount' to that
[18:58] <Term1nal> updated (refresh that uri)
[18:59] <Bizzeh> so, in my infinite awesomeness, i managed to delete /usr/bin... i assume i am screwed and need to reinstall?
[18:59] <nacc> Bizzeh: yeah
[18:59] <nemo> Bizzeh: reinstalling is definitely the tidiest recovery
[18:59] <nemo> almost anything else isn't worth the hassle
[19:00] <Bizzeh> nemo: thought so, especially since i have now lost sudo and apt because of it :D
[19:00] <nemo> Bizzeh: you can at least keep your list of install packages from apt if you wanna save a bit of time
[19:00] <nemo> but might be better to start fresh anyway
[19:00] <nemo> w/ /home preserved, reinstall is just a minor hassle IMO
[19:00] <nemo> and /etc
[19:01] <Bizzeh> nemo: its a relitively light server and all data is on external storage, its a minor hassle to reinstall, just wondering if there was an even smaller hassle. but if recovering is a bigger hassle than reinstall, then reinstall it is
[19:01] <irated> What is a good live backup toool?
[19:01] <oerheks> irated, dejadup, standard backuptool
[19:02] <leftyfb> irated: rsync
[19:02] <Term1nal> histo: so far, I set up my raid1, a small md0 for the ESP, and md1 is the rest of the drive. upon md1, I setup luks, then an lvm atop that for the system. I partition md0 as fat32 for ESP
[19:02] <Term1nal> histo: I ran ubiquity, pointed it at the correct mount stuff, it ran the install, when it game to installing GRUB it crashed
[19:02] <irated> leftyfb: something more streamlines like acronis or redo?
[19:03] <leftyfb> irated: see oerheks's answer
[19:03] <irated> sorry not redo...
[19:03] <irated> macrium*
[19:03] <Term1nal> histo: so I killed ubiquity, chrooted into the install and installed mdadm, and wa trying to manually put GRUB, which is where I am now with it not seeing my /boot/efi as an EFI partition
[19:04] <oerheks> irated, if that is available in softwarecenter, never used it.
[19:04] <oerheks> https://apps.ubuntu.com/cat/search/?q=backup&op=
[19:04] <histo> Term1nal: in your output I don't see it mounted to boot/efi
[19:04] <irated> i would use the system backuptool if I could set up all exclusions
[19:04] <histo> Term1nal: you're mounted /dev/md0p1 to /media/esp
[19:04] <Term1nal> histo: I can cd to /boot/efi
[19:05] <Term1nal> I mounted that trying to troubleshoot
[19:05] <histo> ahh
[19:05] <irated>  /dev , /proc, /boot... Trying to think if there is anything else?
[19:05] <oerheks> irated, no need for that with dejadup
[19:05] <leftyfb> oerheks: did you happen to notice my previous question/issue and maybe have some input?
[19:06] <irated> if i tell it to back up / it will not grab those?
[19:06] <irated> i have stufff outside /home i want backed up
[19:06] <oerheks> leftyfb, rsync?
[19:06] <leftyfb> oerheks: rsyslog
[19:06] <Term1nal> histo: I can cd to /boot/efi and make a file successfully, perhaps it's actually mounted to / which is in md1 LVM?
[19:06] <histo> Term1nal: most likely
[19:07] <histo> Term1nal: I would ensure that /dev/md0p1 get's mounted there, if that is your efi partition
[19:07] <oerheks> oh, <leftyfb> I'm trying to split out some lines from syslog into it's own log.
[19:07] <leftyfb> yep
[19:09] <oerheks> depends, if there is a constant factor in those lines, create its own log? https://askubuntu.com/questions/318852/rsyslog-filter-by-tag
[19:09] <Term1nal> histo: ok that's what's going on
[19:09] <Term1nal> there was a /boot folder on /
[19:10] <Term1nal> which was on the md1
[19:10] <Term1nal> I mv'd /boot to /bootbak
[19:10] <Term1nal> mounted /dev/md0p1 to /boot
[19:10] <Term1nal> moved the contents of /bootbak to /boot
[19:10] <Term1nal> and ran grub-install to --efi-directory /boot/efi
[19:10] <Term1nal> "no error reported"
[19:10] <Term1nal> I think that did it
[19:11] <Term1nal> how do I persist that mounting?
[19:11] <ducasse> Term1nal: if your efi partition is part of the raid, look at this - https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/EFI_System_Partition#ESP_on_RAID
[19:16] <tsani> Hello folks. I'm debugging slow connection issues from a host machine into a container. I've narrowed it down to an ipv4ll issue. For instance, I run `netcat -lp 5000` in the container and `telnet mycontainer 5000` in the host. I see "Trying 169.254.47.225..." which hangs for 3 seconds before it tries to real IP address, which connects immediately.
[19:17] <tsani> However, on a different container, the correct IP address is tried first, and there's no problem.
[19:17] <tsani> How does telnet (or any program for that matter) decide which IPs to try in what order?
[19:18] <SwedeMike> tsani: seems this is IPv4 only? I don't know how that is done, I only know how that is done for IPv6.
[19:18] <featherfeet> Please help! I booted a computer off an Ubuntu GNOME live DVD and used GParted to move a partition on a hard disk. Now the desktop is frozen. GParted said it had 5 hrs. of transferring left before it froze. What should I do to avoid losing the HDD's data?
[19:19] <doux> Hi, anyone know what the name (or unicode code) for the terminal rectangular solid prompt when it becomes the "outline" of the prompt when you click to another window. I'm looking for the unicode or name of the "outline prompt"
[19:19] <aotaointbin> hopefully you made backups.
[19:19] <Pyrouge> featherfeet: damn
[19:19] <Pyrouge> featherfeet: hope for the best
[19:19] <oerheks> featherfeet, you should have made a backup before that. hard to say what will happenbwhen you cancel...
[19:19] <leftyfb> featherfeet: reinstall and restore from backup
[19:20] <featherfeet> The disk is 2TB, I don't have anything fast enough/big enough to back it up to.
[19:20] <Pyrouge> featherfeet: since you probably didn't make backups the only option is wait it out
[19:20] <Pyrouge> featherfeet: or reboot and risk loosing data
[19:20] <Pyrouge> losing*
[19:20] <aotaointbin> this is why backups are important.
[19:20] <Bizzeh> fearnothing: on 2tb of storage, i doubt you have the entire 2tb full of stuff you cant otherwise recover (music, games, videos), back up the stuff you cannot otherwise get back
[19:21] <featherfeet> Also, this disk is a backup disk.
[19:21] <leftyfb> multiple backups :)
[19:21] <featherfeet> Only 200 GB has been used (most of the rest of the stuff was already moved to a 6TB backup HDD)
[19:22] <tsani> SwedeMike: well, an IPv6 address is actually tried first before the IPv4ll address is tried, but it doesn't stay blocked for three seconds.
[19:22] <leftyfb> I have 3. Not including backing up pictures and videos to dropbox and google
[19:22] <Pyrouge> try moving things to different hdds
[19:22] <max12345> ok so my friend wants to dual boot on two physical drives
[19:22] <max12345> we found some instructions
[19:22] <max12345> but
[19:22] <Pyrouge> all the important data
[19:22] <featherfeet> Is there any way of telling whether GParted is still running?
[19:22] <Pyrouge> how do you know it froze
[19:22] <Bizzeh> leftyfb: 2 cloud backups of important data. 1 backup on google drive, and another on amazon s3
[19:22] <max12345> when we try to select EFI as partition type it gives us an ubi-partman error 141
[19:22] <featherfeet> NO mouse, no keyboard, no motion on-screen.
[19:23] <histo> featherfeet: does your numlock or capslock lights still work on your keyboard if you press those buttons.
[19:23] <leftyfb> Bizzeh: 1 local drive connected to a pi, 1 remote drive connected to a pi, 1 sitting in a fireproof safe, dropbox and google and I guess we could count icloud, but I don't rely on it
[19:23] <leftyfb> featherfeet: CTRL+ALT+F2
[19:24] <Bizzeh> leftyfb: on the "fire proof safe". how well do HDDs last in cold storage these days (cold as in, unplugged, in a safe)
[19:24] <featherfeet> It could be that the USB crashed, and maybe I that's why switching to a VT won't work?
[19:24] <featherfeet> Does Ubuntu GNOME live have SSH access enabled by default? I connected to computer to Wi-Fi.
[19:25] <Bizzeh> fearnothing: indicator of if it is still doing anything, or has completely frozen... what are your HDD lights doing on your case?
[19:25] <doux> I have an image of the character whose unicode I'm looking: http://0x0.st/ktR.png
[19:25] <leftyfb> Bizzeh: eh. Couple years at least. I only take it out and backup to it a couple times a year. Every few years I get a new one and copy to that and use the old drive for something else
[19:27] <Bizzeh> what would we consider robust enough to just sit there, untouched, for say, 5 years, and not have any data loss?
[19:29] <ioria> doux  you can try U+25af , but it's smaller
[19:30] <leftyfb> Bizzeh: not sure. I wouldn't consider myself an expert on drive lifespan in cold storage
[19:30] <doux> ioria: thanks, but it's too small. I need it to outline the space around the whole character like the prompt (I assume)
[19:33] <texla> I am trying to erase Linux-2.8 from my Ubuntu grub menu Found the enty in /boot/grub.d/40_custom completely erased but still in grub menu
[19:33] <Bizzeh> my reinstall is done anyway, took all of 15 minutes to get back to up and running again
[19:33] <oerheks> texla, did you run grub-update after that?
[19:33] <Bizzeh> stupid /usr/bin/
[19:34] <texla> oerheks, Forgot that chore thanks
[19:38] <doux> Full cursor block unicode is U+2588, but I want the "hollow" version...
[19:53] <fugee> what command do i run to build-dep for kernel-chromeos-3.8
[19:54] <fugee> sudo apt-get build-dep linux-image-?(uname -r)
[19:54] <fugee> i don't know how to translate that into my distribution
[20:00] <Term1nal> sooo, the motherboard isn't detecting the EFI parition on md0
[20:00] <backnforth> Hi, can someone help me with my Ubuntu system? I don't have a button that will allow me to configure a vpn but I've found examples showing that there should be one
[20:03] <pavlos> backnforth: if you're using Network Manager, there is a openvpn client module to install. Are you on 16.04?
[20:03] <backnforth> Yes I'm on 16.04
[20:03] <backnforth> I must be missing the module
[20:04] <pavlos> backnforth: install network-manager-openvpn-gnome
[20:05] <pavlos> backnforth: then logout/login and NM should show VPN connections >
[20:06] <backnforth> thanks pavlos
[20:08] <backnforth> pavlos, still isn't working
[20:08] <pavlos> backnforth: restart network manager
[20:08] <backnforth> I restarted my computer
[20:10] <pavlos> backnforth: sudo apt install network-manager-openvpn ...
[20:11] <backnforth> pavlos, already installed
[20:11] <pavlos> backnforth: https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/serverguide/openvpn.html ... (look for the "Linux Network-Manager GUI for OpenVPN" section)
[20:13] <backnforth> pavlos: I get this error when trying to restart network-manager as sudo: restart: Unable to connect to Upstart: Failed to connect to socket /com/ubuntu/upstart: Connection refused
[20:14] <leftyfb> oerheks: I got it. I overlooked an aspect of permissions :/
[20:15] <pavlos> backnforth: use sudo systemctl restart network-manager, I think
[20:22] <backnforth> pavlos: Sorry I got d/c
[20:22] <Absolute0> How do I sort find results by date?
[20:22] <backnforth> something happened I think when restarting via systemctl
[20:23] <dedze> Hi, is playonlinux from the Ubuntu store safe to use? Will playing games made for windows make my ubuntu system vulnerable?
[20:23] <pavlos> backnforth: see screens 1-5 ... https://torguard.net/knowledgebase.php?action=displayarticle&id=53
[20:23] <backnforth> pavlos: it's ok that it doesn't work, I can still run it via the comman dline
[20:24] <dedze> Hello pavlos and thanks again for helping me the other day
[20:25] <backnforth> pavlos is the best
[20:25] <pavlos> dedze: cant remember :( but thanks
[20:25] <pavlos> backnforth: is the gui working now?
[20:25] <dedze> pavlos: it was a few days ago about updating the system and my skype hehe
[20:25] <pavlos> dedze: oh yes, glad it's working
[20:27] <dedze> pavlos: do you think installing playonelinux and wine to play league of legends is safe or will it make my system vulnerable?
[20:28] <backnforth> pavlos: Yeah, I think it's working
[20:28] <pavlos> dedze: no exp with wine
[20:28] <dedze> Oki thanks pavlos
[20:29] <Handle> Simple question: Wenn I run an amd64-architecture, is it enough to install the headers for amd64 or do I need the ones for "all" too?
[20:29] <Handle> *kernel headers
[20:29] <pavlos> backnforth: I just installed openvpn and when I click add connection, at the very bottom I see openvpn
[20:30] <backnforth> pavlos: yeah, that's how I did it
[20:31] <pavlos> backnforth: ok, good
[20:32] <dedze> In this page: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BasicSecurity   they say use wine with caution, I dont know what to do haha
[20:36] <pavlos> dedze: does this help (read comments) http://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2017/01/install-wine-2-0-ubuntu-16-04-14-04-16-10/
[20:37] <RonaldsMazitis> I'm using  17.04.3, what keypads I need to press to zoom out project monitor.﻿
[20:37] <RonaldsMazitis> kdenlive question, nobodys there
[20:38] <dedze> Also pavlos , an other question, could i make a user account on my laptop that no matter what  couldnt use root or my password to install anything and use it for daily use? Then have a special user account for installing softwares etc
[20:38] <dedze> Would it work?
[20:40] <pavlos> dedze: you could adda user, bob, who does not have sudo hence cannot install software. All bob can do is use the system.
[20:40] <dedze> pavlos: And so my concern is, if I install a software using my normal user, will bob have it installed too?
[20:41] <nacc> dedze: yes, software is shared, not per-user (unless installed in a way that is per-user)
[20:42] <pavlos> dedze: the normal user will install software (w/ sudo), software will be avail to all users of the system
[20:42] <dedze> Oki thanks!
[20:45] <RonaldsMazitis> SO NOBODY KNOWS HOW TO zoom out project monitor, so I COULD DRAG RED BUTTON FURTHER
[20:45] <RonaldsMazitis> ubuntu is not video editing with kdenlive
[20:46] <nacc> RonaldsMazitis: what is "project monitor" and why are you yelling in the channel (using caps)
[20:47] <RonaldsMazitis> caps are easier to read
[20:47] <nacc> RonaldsMazitis: no, they are not
[20:48] <RonaldsMazitis> You are reading this by decluding that I mentioned what Ubuntu software I'm using
[20:48] <nacc> RonaldsMazitis: "decluding" is not a word I am familiar with.
[20:49] <pavlos> RonaldsMazitis: in control panel, Displays, ubuntu has a scaling slider which may help. Please dont use caps.
[20:50] <RonaldsMazitis> kdenlive is software that has zoom out feature, I just can't drag out red button more than project slider should allow me to do, but they deleted that in newest version
[20:51] <RonaldsMazitis> basicly I need keypads for zooming out
[20:51] <RonaldsMazitis> it
[20:52] <RonaldsMazitis> I once reported bug that turn out they want it to be done with keypad only, I just don't know they keys
[20:55] <nacc> RonaldsMazitis: https://kdenlive.org/video-editing-applications-handbook/
[20:55] <nacc> RonaldsMazitis: T and R?
[20:56] <nacc> RonaldsMazitis: i have never used (and probably never will use) kdenlive, just what i found from googling
[20:58] <isomorphismes> I must be misunderstanding mount. When I df -h, it only shows the /dev/sda* drives, but I have /dev/sdi* and /dev/sdj* plugged in.
[20:59] <nacc> isomorphismes: are they mounted?
[20:59] <isomorphismes> nacc: seemingly not...
[20:59] <nacc> isomorphismes: then not sure what you're misunderstanding? :)
[21:00] <isomorphismes> nacc: there are folders in /media/abc, but when I mv a large file to /media/abc, disk space doesn’t show up
[21:00] <isomorphismes> I added another mkdir /media/try.again && mount /dev/sdi1 /media/try.again, that didn't work
[21:01] <isomorphismes> and I tried to mount /dev/sdi but it's not in fstab
[21:01] <isomorphismes> also when I do blkid /dev/sdi1 I get a blank response
[21:03] <pavlos> lsblk -f should list all devices mounted
[21:03] <isomorphismes> pavlos: thank you
[21:03] <isomorphismes> so that does show /dev/sdi* and /dev/sdj*
[21:03] <nacc> isomorphismes: ok, one thing at a time; what do you mean "disk space doesn't show up"?
[21:04] <nacc> isomorphismes: you don't generally mount disks, you mount partitions, so /dev/sdi is wrong
[21:04] <isomorphismes> nacc: when I do df -h, /dev/sdi* and /dev/sdj* aren't lsited
[21:04] <isomorphismes> nacc: ok, thanks
[21:04] <pavlos> can you pastebin lsblk -f?
[21:04] <nacc> isomorphismes: if it's not mouned, i don't think it will be
[21:04] <nacc> isomorphismes: so you need mount the partitions, correctly
[21:05] <isomorphismes> http://ix.io/yRd
[21:06] <nacc> isomorphismes: afaict, nothing is mounted in /media/abc (currently)
[21:06] <nacc> isomorphismes: so you're just taking up space on /dev/sda1 (which is mounted at /)
[21:07] <isomorphismes> nacc: sorry, the mount points are actually /media/media, /media/work, etc.
[21:07] <nacc> isomorphismes: doesn't matter, nothing is mounted at /media/* (per the lsblk output)
[21:08] <isomorphismes> nacc: thanks
[21:09] <isomorphismes> nacc: so how do I fix it?
[21:10] <isomorphismes> btw I meant http://ix.io/yRc
[21:10] <nacc> isomorphismes: yeah, i gathered :)
[21:10] <isomorphismes> nacc: thought so, clever :)
[21:10] <nacc> isomorphismes: I'm not sure ... did you have working mounts before?
[21:10] <isomorphismes> nacc: yes, at some point
[21:11] <nacc> isomorphismes: and what changed?
[21:11] <isomorphismes> nacc: I unplugged them for months and nautilus wasn’t loading for some reason so I couldn’t mount them that way
[21:12] <nacc> isomorphismes: i see
[21:12] <pavlos> try, mkdir /media/opt then mount /dev/sdj1 /media/opt ... df -h should list /media/opt
[21:13] <isomorphismes> pavlos: /media/opt is already there and has stuff in it
[21:13] <pavlos> try, I gave an example, make another mountpoint
[21:14] <nacc> isomorphismes: right, becuase i think you've put stuff in your /
[21:14] <nacc> isomorphismes: as in your root disks' /media/opt
[21:16] <isomorphismes> mount: /dev/sdi1 is already mounted or /media/pavlos busy
[21:17] <grimmhere> hey guys.. does anyone have a solution for the Intel wifi dropping / poor signal? I tried the 11n disable but it didn't help much
[21:18] <nacc> isomorphismes: can you pastebin the output of `mount`?
[21:18] <programmar> is it raining?
[21:19] <pavlos> a pastebin of df -h (or mount | grep /dev/sd )
[21:25] <isomorphismes> http://ix.io/yRf
[21:26] <isomorphismes> http://ix.io/yRg
[21:31] <pavlos> isomorphismes: let's try mkdir /mnt/backup, then mount /dev/sdi1 /mnt/backup Does df -h show it? (there should be a line /dev/sdi1 ... /mnt/backup
[21:32] <himom> hello!
[21:35] <isomorphismes> mount: /dev/sdi is already mounted or /mnt/backup busy
[21:35] <isomorphismes> btw ls /mnt is empty
[21:36] <himom> I'm having weird display problems in 3D applications on Ubuntu 17.04 since I updated from 16.10. For example in Blender graphics doesn't update correctly and I often see things that are no longer there. In some games many textures appear black and in some other I see weird colors. What could be causing this?
[21:36] <himom> lshw tells me I'm running radeon driver
[21:37] <himom> and this isn't a small problem, it makes it almost impossible to use Blender and play some of games
[21:38] <Zythyr> Need help. I installed LAMP on Ubuntu 14 LTS. By default the website runs from /var/www. However, I want the website to run from /home/username/my_websites. Inside /home/username/my_websites, I will have multiple websites. The purpose for this is for few reasons: 1) I am going to create a Samba share for /home/username/my_websites so I can easily manage files from windows. 2) By default I can't
[21:38] <Zythyr> create add or modify anything inside /var/www. What is the proper method to do this?
[21:38] <pavlos> isomorphismes: if mkdir /mnt/backup gave you an error (perm denied), sudo /mnt/backup then, ls /mnt should list the backup dir
[21:39] <himom> Zythyr wouldn't using FTP be better to manage your website files?
[21:39] <isomorphismes> pavlos: sorry, I meant before I sudo mkdir /mnt/backup, there was nothing in ls /mnt.
[21:39] <himom> or using ssh
[21:39] <isomorphismes> pavlos: you are correct, /mnt/backup did go there when I mkdir-ed it
[21:40] <pavlos> isomorphismes: so the mountpoint exists, try sudo mount /dev/sdi1 /mnt/backup  ... ls /mnt/backup should list what you have in the sdi drive, right?
[21:41] <pavlos> isomorphismes: and df -h should list that mountpoint
[21:41] <Zythyr> himom Why use FTP when I can have a Samaba share and easily manage all files through a familar windows interface?
[21:42] <himom> Zythyr:ok good point. I don't know if this will solve your problem but you could make a link in /var/www that points to your home directory. I don't know a proper way to do what you want but maybe this will help
[21:45] <bipul> How to list the name of current running snapshot?
[21:46] <isomorphismes> pavlos: mount: /dev/sdi1 is already mounted or /mnt/backup busy
[21:46] <isomorphismes> pavlos: and ls /mnt/backup is empty
[21:47] <isomorphismes> pavlos: and df -h does not list the mount point
[21:47] <nacc> isomorphismes: where are you running that command from (what is cwd)?
[21:47] <dr_horrible> Zythyr: Maybe the reason you cannot make changes to the /var/www location because that area is owned by a separate webserver owner
[21:47] <isomorphismes> nacc: /media, as non-root
[21:48] <dr_horrible> Zythyr: you shouls be able to change that by simply adding yourself to the group account for that folder location.
[21:48] <Zythyr> I can't figurew out what the proper settings or permissions required
[21:48] <isomorphismes> well, maybe I just always failed to actually get anything on /media/backup .. I tried with mount /dev/sdj1 /mnt/bakk2 and that works
[21:48] <isomorphismes> thank you very much nacc pavlos
[21:48] <isomorphismes> I think this is going to solve my issue
[21:48] <dr_horrible> Zythyr: then you could make a link at your home folder location pointing to that location
[21:49] <dr_horrible> Zythyr: what is the user:group ownership of /var/www
[21:49] <isomorphismes> wow, this is all making so much more sense now. thanks again pavlos nacc
[21:50] <isomorphismes> glad you were both around and willing to help so much!
[21:50] <nacc> isomorphismes: glad you have a bit of a way forward now :)
[21:50] <himom> but then he still won't be able to change the files will he? I think he needs to create a link in /var/www to points to some directory in home then his user will be able to change the files or am I mistaken?
[21:50] <isomorphismes> nacc: very much so, lot of stress gone now :D
[21:50] <pavlos> isomorphismes: good luck, we are here to help
[21:51] <dr_horrible> himom: If he adds himself to the group permissions on that folder he can
[21:51] <himom> dr_horrible: yes that's true
[21:51] <nacc> Zythyr: fwiw, apache at least has a builtin module for per-user directories
[21:52] <nacc> Zythyr: https://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.4/howto/public_html.html
[21:52] <himom> has anyone else had a problem with 3D applications not working properly after update to 17.04?
[21:52] <dr_horrible> Zythyr: it can still be best to keep your home separate for security reasons
[21:56] <Zythyr> nacc thanks for the link. I am going to read it!
[21:56] <Zythyr> dr_horrible Yes  Iwant to keep is sepreate for that is why i created in my home directory
[21:59] <dr_horrible> Zythyr: keeping it in the /var directory and not your home keeps it separate.  When the web server is access it is using another user account not yours.
[22:00] <Term1nal> so I'm stil battling my encrypted drive setup on ubuntu
[22:00] <dr_horrible> Zythyr: That makes for the possibility of it being compromised with access in your /home space
[22:00] <Term1nal> it doesn't appear that my grub configuration or initramfs configuration is working.
[22:00] <Term1nal> I just get dropped to an (initramfs) busybox prompt
[22:01] <Term1nal> from a live environment, I chrooted to the install, and enabled modules, raid1, lvm2, dm-crypt, etc and so forth
[22:01] <Term1nal> blkid from this initramfs prompt does show the raid device
[22:02] <Term1nal> I don't know how to get it to open luks and mount the LVM
[22:06] <Maddogz> hi
[22:06] <Maddogz> im trying to install adb fastboot on Mate
[22:06] <Maddogz>  it shows Exec format error. any help please
[22:08] <hehehe> well Maddogz whats the error
[22:08] <hehehe> how people suppose to read it?
[22:09] <hehehe> himom: I am on 16.04 :) you can still use it
[22:10] <Maddogz> adb line 9 usr/local/adb can not execute binary file
[22:10] <Maddogz> i use default openjdk with any additional java install
[22:11] <Maddogz> with no add
[22:11] <Maddogz> it works if i execute it from platform-tools folder
[22:13] <Maddogz> $ /media/data/android/platform-tools/adb devices <--
[22:18] <Maddogz> i tried copy adb fastboot into /usr/local/sbin/platform-tools overwrited
[22:19] <Maddogz> executed adb device shows same result line 9 error
[22:23] <alekz> How can I enable autologin for Ubuntu 16.04 from the command line? It's using Unity
[22:23] <alekz> *I want to enable it from command line, so it will auto login into desktop
[22:23] <[n0mad]> you could just enable it from Setting > Users
[22:24] <alekz> [n0mad]: I know, but I'm writing a bash script
[22:24] <alekz> why you think I asked 'from command line'?
[22:24] <alekz> gosh
[22:26] <Maddogz> ..
[22:26] <Maddogz> sudo rm -rf / auto login
[22:26] <Maddogz> lol
[22:27] <energizer> What's the best way to remote desktop ubuntu -> ubuntu ?
[22:27] <nacc> Maddogz: please don't do that.
[22:27] <pavlos> alekz: /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf enable user and user timeout 0
[22:27] <nacc> Maddogz: while you may think it's funny, someone may legitimately copy and paste that command.
[22:28] <alekz> thanks pavlos, didn't know unity uses lightdm
[22:28] <alekz> hate this distro
[22:28] <alekz> go debian!
[22:28] <pavlos> alekz: I might be wrong, sry
[22:28] <Bashing-om> energizer: See: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2159449 <-easiest way to cp files 'tween two 'buntus that share the same router/house (Morbius1)
[22:29] <energizer> Bashing-om: what are you referring to specifically?
[22:30] <Bashing-om> energizer: "desktop ubuntu -> ubuntu" IF all that is requited is to transfer files ?
[22:31] <wedgie> the question was about remote desktop...
[22:31] <himom> hehehe: yeah maybe I shouldn't have updated :)
[22:32] <energizer> I am trying to run automated  chrome non-headless on a remote server. Is there a way to do that?
[22:32] <himom> hehehe: and if I don't find the solution quit using Ubuntu and install another distro
[22:32] <energizer> Bashing-om: that is not the case here
[22:33] <himom> energizer: I don't know the answer but I'm curious why do you need it?
[22:33] <wedgie> energizer: do you just need to kick off the process or do you want to be able to see/interact with it as well?
[22:33] <Bashing-om> energizer: K :) . X forwarding through SSH ?
[22:34] <nacc> energizer: you can do VNC, ssh -X, there are probably other options
[22:34] <nacc> energizer: seems like an odd thing to do though :)
[22:34] <wedgie> makes sense for running test suites, maybe
[22:34] <himom> yeah I think so too :)
[22:34] <energizer> i need to run selenium to drive chrome on a server, and download some files. headless chrome has an open issue such that it can't download files, so i need to run it with head
[22:35] <himom> just download files? why don't you use wget or something?
[22:35] <energizer> himom: i have considered those options, they are not going to work here
[22:35] <ViciousLooRoll> So I've set up a a new server using only SSH keys
[22:35] <himom> energizer: oh ok I see
[22:36] <ViciousLooRoll> I made one user a sudoer but I can't sudo because he has no password
[22:36] <himom> lol
[22:36] <energizer> wedgie: i think if i got it started i could then subsequently connect selenium to it
[22:36] <wedgie> energizer: ssh to the server as a user that has a GUI running, run ''export DISPLAY=:0'' and then your command to kick of the selenium tests
[22:36] <wedgie> or in that case, just ''chrome'' after exporting the DISPLAY
[22:36] <himom> ViciousLooRoll: I think you can just not type anything and it should work?
[22:37] <ViciousLooRoll> himom: tried that
[22:37] <himom> ViciousLooRoll: when it asks for password you can't leave it blank?
[22:37] <ViciousLooRoll> Nope
[22:37] <himom> wow
[22:39] <nacc> ViciousLooRoll: when you say you made "one user a sudoer" what do you mean?
[22:39] <ViciousLooRoll> usermod -aG sudo username
[22:39] <himom> does anyone know how to fix artifacts in 3D applications that suddenly appeared after update to 17.04?
[22:40] <nacc> ViciousLooRoll: all that did was add them to the sudo group, if you want that user to have passwordless sudo (I don't recommend it, but that's a choice you get to make), then you need to configure sudo for that
[22:41] <nacc> ViciousLooRoll: sudo is unrelated to how you login to a system
[22:41] <ViciousLooRoll> nacc: oh. I thought there sudo password was the same as login password.
[22:43] <nacc> ViciousLooRoll: sorry, I meant the mechanism for logging in is unrelated to the mechanism for sudo
[22:43] <nacc> ViciousLooRoll: so you have passwordless remote login (ssh key based)
[22:43] <nacc> ViciousLooRoll: that does not mean you have passwordless sudo (you hve to configure that)
[22:43] <ViciousLooRoll> nacc: ok. I don't want passwordless sudo
[22:44] <ViciousLooRoll> I just want to be able to sudo.
[22:44] <nacc> ViciousLooRoll: then you need to set a user password, probably, for those users
[22:44] <hggdh> ViciousLooRoll: but this is the thing. sudo, by default, will require the user's password. SInce this user has no password, then no sudo (unless you configure sudoers
[22:45] <nacc> ViciousLooRoll: and just disable password-based ssh
[22:45] <ViciousLooRoll> Ahh ok.
[22:45] <ViciousLooRoll> Cheers guys.
[22:47] <Frozenlock> Hello gentlemen. I have a program starting with an upstart script and I can't seem to set its nofile limits. I've edited both /etc/security/limits.conf and the service conf file. Any ideas where I need to set the nofile limits?
[22:49] <pavlos> Frozenlock: /etc/sysctl.conf fs.file-max=
[22:50] <pavlos> Frozenlock: https://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/linux-increase-the-maximum-number-of-open-files/
[22:50] <energizer> wedgie: great idea, thanks
[22:53] <ViciousLooRoll> Should I have an SSH key for every user?
[22:55] <Frozenlock> pavlos: Thanks, but those values are much higher than what 'cat /proc/<<pid>>/limits' returns.
[22:56] <Frozenlock> 'cat /proc/<<pid>>/limits' returns 1024 4096, while the limits.conf and the service .conf file are set much higher.
[22:57] <adamitsch> I have win10 installed... and today I decided to install Solus linux besides it. But it stops at partitioning. In Gparted I made root partition, but I can't choose it in installer. What can I do ?
[22:57] <himom> Help, I get artifacts and weird display errors in 3D applications! Does nobody know how to find out what's wrong? I had to register with a fake email to get into this channel. All that for nothing :(
[23:00] <himom> adamitsch: does the installer show a list of all partitions?
[23:01] <adamitsch> himom : it does, but I cannot select any of those partitions.
[23:03] <himom> adamitsch: are they empty? do they have anything in common? maybe you are supposed to create a new one in the installer?
[23:05] <adamitsch> himom : I had to change from 'unassigned' to mountpoint I wanted... I thought I would need to do it after I would have selected partition :)
[23:06] <himom> adamitsch: that must be a little confusing installer, but I'm glad you solved the problem :)
[23:25] <mitmf> source ./setup_env.sh  <— what it means? why they don’t excute ./setup_env.sh?
[23:26] <nbastin> how the heck do I get 16.04 server to bring up a vlan interface on boot?  I upgraded from 14.04 and now it won't do it
[23:26] <nbastin> I can do it by hand, but it never does it on boot
[23:30] <ViciousLooRoll> My arrow keys are typing this in the shell ^[[A
[23:30] <ViciousLooRoll> And I only have "$" as my prompt.
[23:31] <ViciousLooRoll> Any idea why ? It's a fresh install of Ubuntu.
[23:31] <ViciousLooRoll> My old server never had this issue
[23:31] <nacc> mitmf: because they don't want to execute the script, they want to source the variables in it to the shell
[23:31] <nacc> mitmf: fwiw, not an ubuntu support question, but a general shell or linux one
[23:33] <mitmf> nacc:  thanks :) but i can’t understand it. can you explain it detailly? they want to source the variables in it to the shell
[23:33] <nacc> mitmf: http://tldp.org/HOWTO/Bash-Prompt-HOWTO/x237.html
[23:34] <ViciousLooRoll> Fixed
[23:34] <nacc> mitmf: often sourcing is used to define some set of variables or functions for use by other variables or functions
[23:34] <mitmf> thanks nacc :)
[23:34] <nacc> mitmf: or perhaps this: https://superuser.com/questions/176783/what-is-the-difference-between-executing-a-bash-script-vs-sourcing-it
[23:36] <mitmf> thanks nacc :_
[23:36] <mitmf> :)
[23:37] <ViciousLooRoll> Apt install seems to be unable to find an application I know is in the repo
[23:37] <ViciousLooRoll> "unable to locate package mosh"
[23:39] <nacc> ViciousLooRoll: what version of ubuntu?
[23:40] <ViciousLooRoll> 16.04
[23:40] <nacc> !info mosh xenial
[23:40] <nacc> ViciousLooRoll: do you have universe enabled?
[23:40] <ViciousLooRoll> I'm going to try upgrading
[23:40] <nacc> !components | ViciousLooRoll
[23:40] <ViciousLooRoll> Nacc I don't know
[23:40] <nacc> ViciousLooRoll: ? `sudo apt update; sudo apt install mosh`
[23:40] <nacc> ViciousLooRoll: upgrading what?
[23:40] <ViciousLooRoll> All I did update, sorry
[23:41] <ViciousLooRoll> s/all//
[23:41] <ViciousLooRoll> It installs now. Thanks
[23:44] <mitmf> When a file is sourced <—— sourced == excuted ? nacc ?
[23:46] <mitmf> i don’t know that what is ‘sourced’?
[23:47] <nacc> mitmf: the . or source commands
[23:47] <nacc> mitmf: as explained in the first link i sent you
[23:48] <mitmf> thanks nacc :)
[23:58] <buggaboosanchez> I wanted to install a kind of obscure software on my ubuntu 16.04 Desktop. It's called "Eramba".  I tried to install it on this system before but ran into a problem in that program related to php code that did not comply with a newly released standard.  It's a longshot, but I was hoping someone might be more familiar and willing to walk me through some of the issues
[23:58] <buggaboosanchez> ?
[23:58] <buggaboosanchez> It's governanance, risk and compliance sotware