[06:08] <lordievader> Good morning
[09:56] <sumit> hi
 @ahoneybun, Ah, ok. Thanks for the answers.
 @sumit, hello
[12:08] <user|60235> hi there
[12:09] <user|60235> does anyone know why kubuntu is not updating?
[12:09] <oerheks> what version exactly?
[12:10] <user|60235> Kubuntu 16.10
[12:10] <oerheks> oh, 16.10 is EOL, dead, upgrade please
[12:10] <oerheks> !16.10
[12:10] <oerheks> !eolupgrade
[12:11] <user|60235> ok thanks
[12:11] <oerheks> 9 months support, i know it is short
[12:12] <user|60235> works fine but minor bugs
[12:25] <john85> hi :)
[12:28] <john85> hi again :)
[12:29] <john85> hi :)
[12:29] <hateball> hello john85
[12:29] <john85> hows you on this fine day?
[12:42] <lordievader> o/
[13:10] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[15:44] <viewer|40394> hi
[15:45] <viewer|40394> how can i install µTorrent
[15:45] <viewer|40394> by terminal pls
[17:19] <user|28069> I have a 32 bit laptop and 2 gb ram. which version of kubuntu should I install? 64 bit or 32 bit?
[17:20] <BluesKaj> user|28069, a 32 bit cpu can't run 64 bit OSs, install 32bit
[17:54] <someone_> Hi, anyone?
[17:55] <Poussinou> yep?
[17:55] <someone_> Hi , I get this message after download any update, I don't know why ? "An error occurred while applying changes"
[17:55] <someone_> Message title : "Failed to Apply Changes - Discover " | Body : "An error occurred while applying changes:"  | there are no details.
[17:56] <Poussinou> using the command line or the GUI
[17:56] <Poussinou> ?
[17:57] <someone_> GUI
[17:57] <someone_> if I reinstall Discover , Do you think the problem will solve ?
[17:58] <Dragnslcr> I've had issues with Discover lately, too. I've started just using the command line instead
[17:59] <someone_> I have this problem for more than month and I don't know if the updates during this period were got installed or not .
[18:00] <Poussinou> reinstall could be an option yes but the command line is the best way
[18:01] <BluesKaj> someone_, sudo apt update, then  sudo apt upgrade in the konsole
[18:01] <Poussinou> maybe try "sudo apt-get update"
[18:01] <Poussinou> BluesKaj <3
[18:02] <BluesKaj> discover isn't fully developed IMO, avoid it and if insist on using a gui install muon
[18:03] <BluesKaj> if you insist,  someone_
[18:05] <someone_> if I used sudo apt upgrade this will not upgrade my Kubuntu to 17.04 , Right?
[18:05] <Poussinou> you're right
[18:06] <someone_> Ok , I will try now.
[18:10] <Poussinou> To upgrade to a newer version of ubuntu like 16.10 or 17.04, you should write in the command line something like "do-release-upgrade --devel-release" since the LTS version 18.04 is not yet availbale^^
[18:10] <someone_> I got an error : " dpkg: error processing package mysql-server (--configure) , dependency problems - leaving unconfigured  , No apport report written because the error message indicates its a followup error from a previous failure.  ,  Errors were encountered "
[18:15] <BluesKaj> someone_, do you intend to use mysql-server , is this a requirement?
[18:16] <someone_> before two weeks I installed mysql-server for study SQL.
[18:18] <someone_> How I can paste the output? , I want paste the full output of this command sudo apt upgrade
[18:21] <BluesKaj> not needed, run sudo dpkg --configure -a
[18:22] <BluesKaj> then run , sudo apt install -f
[18:23] <someone_> this is the report fully , the output of sudo apt upgrade : http://paste.ubuntu.com/25234719/
[18:26] <someone_> the two commands above give me the same error in the report of sudo apt upgrade
[18:34] <BluesKaj> is mysql-server on a network/remote or on your pc
[18:35] <someone_> it is on my pc .
[18:53] <Dragnslcr> someone_- it looks insserv is an old SysV init package. What version of Kubuntu are you using?
[18:56] <someone_> 16.04.2
[18:59] <Dragnslcr> Hm, I thought 16.04 used systemd
[19:00] <someone_> I think it used systemd.
[19:02] <Dragnslcr> I guess it does still have init files too
[19:03] <Dragnslcr> Try this command, see how many files it lists
[19:03] <Dragnslcr> find /etc/rc* -iname "*mysql*"
[19:04] <someone_> "/etc/rc0.d/K01mysql ,  /etc/rc1.d/K01mysql , /etc/rc2.d/K01mysql , /etc/rc3.d/K01mysql , /etc/rc4.d/K01mysql , /etc/rc5.d/K01mysql , /etc/rc6.d/K01mysql
[19:04] <someone_> ^ 7 files
[19:05] <Dragnslcr> Yeah, there are a lot more Ks than there should be
[19:06] <Dragnslcr> 2, 3, 4, and 5 should be S, not K
[19:06] <someone_> So, what do you think , Should I remove/reinstall mysql or what should I do ?
[19:07] <Dragnslcr> That should work, but you might lose configuration files and data
[19:07] <Dragnslcr> sudo apt install --reinstall mysql-server
[19:08] <Dragnslcr> See if that fixes the init files
[19:08] <Dragnslcr> If not, you can probably just fix them manually
[19:10] <someone_> I think I will remove mysql-server completely then I will try sudo apt upgrade
[19:15] <Dragnslcr> If you aren't worried about losing data, that should work
[19:17] <someone_> Ok , after I removed mysql-server the problem has been solved .
[19:18] <Dragnslcr> Great
[19:18] <someone_> Thank you Dragnslcr , BluesKaj , Poussinou.
[19:18] <Dragnslcr> You should be able to install mysql-server again
[19:24] <someone_> Maybe I will reinstall it at when need it , I was using oracle DBMS it works without problems but it increases boot time so I removed it and switched to mysql.
[19:25] <someone_> Ok , GoodBye .
[21:08] <valorie> btw it is generally recommended to run sudo apt full-upgrade
[21:08] <valorie> rather than upgrade
[21:08] <valorie> since it will remove dead files if necessary
[21:17] <Dragnslcr> Good to know. I haven't had any issues with apt upgrade, so I imagine it's a rare issue?
[21:42] <valorie> Dragnslcr: it is a problem for neon
[21:43] <valorie> not so much for us, since we move a bit more slowly and have more testing
[21:43] <valorie> I should say we move more slowly because we have more testing
[21:43] <valorie> still, I always use full-upgrade unless it is not recommended
[21:46] <Dragnslcr> Got it
[21:46] <Dragnslcr> Thanks for that