| MooDoo | hello all | 06:17 |
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| diplo | Morning all, any of you guys set up an FTP server before, I haven't.. just want very basic one to test | 08:12 |
| diplo | Getting permission denied.. any pointers. PWD appears to be going to /home/andy which is correct, I'm googling currently but I'm guessing it's a vsftpd.conf setting to enable | 08:12 |
| diplo | hah, ask here.. sort it.. always the way :) | 08:16 |
| brobostigon | morning boys and girls. | 08:17 |
| TwistedLucidity | diplo: Usually just framing the question makes one think of something. But don't leave us in suspenders, what was it? | 08:25 |
| diplo | write_enable=yes - I expect in most cases you'd lock it down with chroot's etc | 08:26 |
| diplo | But I'm going to uninstall it in about 20 mins | 08:26 |
| * TwistedLucidity admits they have never once used a "chroot" | 08:26 | |
| diplo | We have some archaic customers / third party vendors who will only accept FTP connections, but it needs to be automated from a script | 08:27 |
| diplo | Our script is dieing with issues, so I'm re | 08:27 |
| diplo | -writing it to be a bit more compliant | 08:27 |
| BigRedS | IIRC the vsftpd in the repos doesn't do chrooted FTP well, it's oddly picky about permissions | 08:37 |
| SuperMatt | Really? I've supported vsftpd doing chroot before now, and it does it quite well | 08:48 |
| SuperMatt | the place you chroot to needs to be owned by root, iirc, and then the subfolder can be owned by the chrooted user | 08:49 |
| TwistedLucidity | I heard about "downpour.com" the other day. DRM-free audiobook sounded cool. | 08:55 |
| TwistedLucidity | So far every book I have checked says "Not Available For Sale in United Kingdom" | 08:55 |
| TwistedLucidity | So I guess they don't want my money. | 08:55 |
| TwistedLucidity | Industries need to get with the program, region restrictions on the Internet are moronic. | 08:56 |
| * TwistedLucidity ponders jumping on the US VPN | 08:56 | |
| diplo | Did it work TwistedLucidity ? | 09:26 |
| TwistedLucidity | Not tried, but it should do. Region locks are stupid. | 09:29 |
| diplo | Certainly are | 09:30 |
| TwistedLucidity | I support DVD Regions. Those languages take up space. I don't support DVD Region *Locks* | 09:31 |
| BigRedS | SuperMatt: yeah, that's what I mean by it not doing it well :) | 09:39 |
| SuperMatt | Naw man, it's fine. It works really well | 09:42 |
| BigRedS | ah, hang on, I think Ubuntu's got allow_writable_chroot | 09:43 |
| BigRedS | definitely Debian hasn't, which is the problem I have with adding it to an already-running system; I don't want to have to change fs permissions | 09:43 |
| SuperMatt | What I used to do was have a folder structure like chroots/user/data (or something) where user is owned by root, and data by the actual user. The homedir for the user is then pointed at the user dir | 09:55 |
| BigRedS | ah yeah, but then it's as bad as chrooted sftp | 09:56 |
| SuperMatt | :/ | 09:56 |
| diplo | . | 14:32 |
| diplo | Blimey, thought that would have disconnected, rebooted the router 4 times :D | 14:32 |
| diddledan | I don't understand how network connections can maintain over an intermittent link like that | 14:35 |
| diddledan | I guess I should look at the protocol they use for Deep Space Communications | 14:36 |
| diddledan | super low bandwidth AND regular connectivity breaks | 14:36 |
| diddledan | I love that a load of radio arrays around the world are linked together to provide the Deep Space Network for satellites and probes and things around the solar system | 14:38 |
| diddledan | the whole idea that we have extended networking into the solarsystem is funky - means mars collonists could conceivably get wikipedia | 14:38 |
| * diddledan listening to the ubuntu podcast. they're talking about nipples | 14:39 | |
| diddledan | popey: do you prefer fingering a nipple? | 14:39 |
| diddledan | I never managed to get the hang of it | 14:40 |
| m0nkey_ | diddledan: If Musk has his way, Mars will be collonised and they will get high speed Internet. | 14:43 |
| diddledan | \o/ | 14:43 |
| m0nkey_ | But would you be able to call it the Internet? | 14:43 |
| diddledan | interplanetary net | 14:43 |
| m0nkey_ | Because Internet is Intercontenental Network | 14:43 |
| m0nkey_ | I think it should be called "planet" | 14:44 |
| m0nkey_ | Interplanet :) | 14:45 |
| zmoylan-pi | they'll suck at online games multiplayer... | 14:45 |
| m0nkey_ | Don't worry zmoylan-pi, they'll have local servers. | 14:45 |
| zmoylan-pi | only if ms and sony allow them | 14:45 |
| m0nkey_ | IF you think about it, Bitcoin could become the first interplanetary currancy. | 14:46 |
| m0nkey_ | Or should I say Bitcoin Cash? | 14:46 |
| m0nkey_ | If you had 1 bitcoin, over night your bitcoin split and now you have almost doubled your total value. | 14:47 |
| diddledan | lol @ ubuntu podcast sting: "are you looking after your bits? why not help other people look after their bits too.." | 14:49 |
| m0nkey_ | Want to look after your bits and bytes. Put it on ZFS ;) | 14:50 |
| diddledan | :-p | 14:50 |
| m0nkey_ | ZFS IS AWESOME btw.. | 14:50 |
| diddledan | well btrfs is going the way of the donkey so ... | 14:50 |
| m0nkey_ | I should have gone to Debconf | 14:50 |
| m0nkey_ | It's down the road from where I live | 14:50 |
| diddledan | plus btrfs really hasn't ever reached "usable" | 14:50 |
| zmoylan-pi | put on clay tablets, umpteen symrian scribes can't be wrong | 14:50 |
| m0nkey_ | diddledan: We don't talk about Butter FS. | 14:51 |
| diddledan | "using raid 5 ish btrfs? yeah, we killed all your data!" | 14:51 |
| zmoylan-pi | and ibm are now talking about a 300tb theoretical tape drive... | 14:51 |
| diddledan | yikes | 14:51 |
| zmoylan-pi | ...if only i trusted tape... :-) | 14:51 |
| m0nkey_ | That'll be the next LTO generation. | 14:51 |
| m0nkey_ | I'm wondering if I should switch back to IRCCloud and drop Quassel. | 14:52 |
| zmoylan-pi | now if they made a version that fitted in your phone like their micro hd in the nokia n95... | 14:53 |
| diddledan | you're being very indecisive about your ircing :-D | 14:53 |
| m0nkey_ | Quassel is nice, but I miss push notifications and the ability to log-on from anywhere and not use a client. | 14:53 |
| diddledan | bouncy bouncy | 14:53 |
| m0nkey_ | Yeah, you're right. I'll stick with Quassel for now. | 14:53 |
| zmoylan-pi | i use irssi on a rasp pi which i can connect to from anywhere in the house from any device up to and including my nokia dumbphone use a java irc client | 14:53 |
| diddledan | "there are two reviews on itunes for the ubuntu podcast, and one of them is from my mum!" | 14:54 |
| zmoylan-pi | we've hit peek your mother running linux... sell! sell! sell! | 14:55 |
| m0nkey_ | diddledan: I'm getting to the point where I don't want to self host anymore. With two kids and other stuff going on, I don't really have the time to maintain it all. | 14:55 |
| diddledan | yeah I hear that | 14:55 |
| m0nkey_ | I like IRCCloud. Push notifications, log-on from any browser, decent mobile app. | 14:56 |
| m0nkey_ | Quassel has an excelent Android app. | 14:56 |
| m0nkey_ | But no push :( | 14:56 |
| zmoylan-pi | the nice thing i liked about quassel was that at the time i used i had a mac, windows and linux at home and quassel ran on all of them exactly the same | 14:57 |
| m0nkey_ | zmoylan-pi: That's why I like it. | 14:57 |
| m0nkey_ | Doesn't matter what device I'm on, config follows me. | 14:57 |
| m0nkey_ | Same goes with IRCCloud. | 14:57 |
| m0nkey_ | The only thing missing from IRCCloud, which I will miss in Quassel is command aliases. | 14:58 |
| m0nkey_ | diddledan: you still use IRCCloud, can you do command aliases yet? | 15:00 |
| diddledan | I haven't seen anything about aliases :-( | 15:03 |
| m0nkey_ | There's probably a script or something I can install in the browser to do that anyway. | 15:05 |
| * TwistedLucidity feels like they are missing out all this l33t IRC madness | 15:27 | |
| TwistedLucidity | I just use Konversation, like an unwashed peasant. | 15:27 |
| m0nkey_ | lol | 15:32 |
| m0nkey_ | Eeewwh.. KDE.. | 15:32 |
| m0nkey_ | :) | 15:32 |
| m0nkey_ | It's okay, I use explorer.exe as my window manager. | 15:33 |
| diddledan | I don't like pheasant | 15:47 |
| diddledan | too gamey | 15:48 |
| diddledan | love me a drop of bambi tho | 15:48 |
| * m0nkey_ dances \o\ /o/ \o_ _o/ | 18:19 | |
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| diddledan | m0nkey_: ┏(-_-)┛┗(-_-)┓┗(-_-)┛┏(-_-)┓ | 19:56 |
| m0nkey_ | So it's a dance off you want? | 20:16 |
| m0nkey_ | Wtf. The price of LastPass has doubled! | 20:18 |
| diddledan | wat? | 20:20 |
| m0nkey_ | https://twitter.com/LastPass/status/893111735309275136 | 20:21 |
| m0nkey_ | Double the price for less features | 20:23 |
| m0nkey_ | I shall not be renewing. | 20:23 |
| diddledan | that's really suckynuts | 20:23 |
| diddledan | is there an opensauce equivalent I wonder | 20:24 |
| m0nkey_ | keypass and passwordsafe | 20:24 |
| m0nkey_ | I hear good things about DashLane, don't know how much it costs. | 20:25 |
| m0nkey_ | I did try 1Password a while back. But it's expensive, but has a shit ton of features. | 20:43 |
| m0nkey_ | I might try 1Password again. I recall the Windows and Mac apps were pretty decent. Don't recall Android. | 20:52 |
| zmoylan-pi | just download a hacked version of a russian server... :-P | 20:57 |
| m0nkey_ | riiight | 21:15 |
| m0nkey_ | Hmm, 1Password is $35USD/year | 21:19 |
| diddledan | I think I'm gonna go with: https://passman.cc/ | 21:28 |
| diddledan | open sauce and has an android app - it's a nextcloud plooooogin | 21:28 |
| m0nkey_ | and it's integrated with nextcloud? | 21:29 |
| diddledan | yup | 21:30 |
| m0nkey_ | Hmm | 21:31 |
| m0nkey_ | I don't want to self host. | 21:31 |
| m0nkey_ | I'm really disappointed with LastPass. | 22:03 |
| m0nkey_ | Everything else wants $50 or more a year. | 22:03 |
| zmoylan-pi | post-its dont't :-) | 22:06 |
| m0nkey_ | lol | 22:07 |
| diddledan | wow: https://www.theregister.co.uk/2017/08/03/linux_kernel_grsecurity_sues_bruce_perens_for_defamation/ | 23:01 |
| diddledan | oh dear: https://www.grahamcluley.com/fbi-arrests-wannacrys-accidental-hero-connection-kronos-banking-trojan/ | 23:06 |
| zmoylan-pi | in the good old days some one would have held their pints while they beat the bejebus out of one another at a convention... linux is getting all grown up now :'-) | 23:07 |
| zmoylan-pi | that wannacry hero arrest seems hokey | 23:07 |
| zmoylan-pi | i can't wait for all the security patches... :-) http://boingboing.net/2017/08/03/java-ported-to-commodore-64.html | 23:22 |
| m0nkey_ | wait. what? | 23:25 |
| m0nkey_ | diddledan: just found Enpass. Seems to do browser autofill and app fill on Android :) | 23:59 |
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