[06:17] hello all [08:12] Morning all, any of you guys set up an FTP server before, I haven't.. just want very basic one to test [08:12] Getting permission denied.. any pointers. PWD appears to be going to /home/andy which is correct, I'm googling currently but I'm guessing it's a vsftpd.conf setting to enable [08:16] hah, ask here.. sort it.. always the way :) [08:17] morning boys and girls. [08:25] diplo: Usually just framing the question makes one think of something. But don't leave us in suspenders, what was it? [08:26] write_enable=yes - I expect in most cases you'd lock it down with chroot's etc [08:26] But I'm going to uninstall it in about 20 mins [08:26] * TwistedLucidity admits they have never once used a "chroot" [08:27] We have some archaic customers / third party vendors who will only accept FTP connections, but it needs to be automated from a script [08:27] Our script is dieing with issues, so I'm re [08:27] -writing it to be a bit more compliant [08:37] IIRC the vsftpd in the repos doesn't do chrooted FTP well, it's oddly picky about permissions [08:48] Really? I've supported vsftpd doing chroot before now, and it does it quite well [08:49] the place you chroot to needs to be owned by root, iirc, and then the subfolder can be owned by the chrooted user [08:55] I heard about "downpour.com" the other day. DRM-free audiobook sounded cool. [08:55] So far every book I have checked says "Not Available For Sale in United Kingdom" [08:55] So I guess they don't want my money. [08:56] Industries need to get with the program, region restrictions on the Internet are moronic. [08:56] * TwistedLucidity ponders jumping on the US VPN [09:26] Did it work TwistedLucidity ? [09:29] Not tried, but it should do. Region locks are stupid. [09:30] Certainly are [09:31] I support DVD Regions. Those languages take up space. I don't support DVD Region *Locks* [09:39] SuperMatt: yeah, that's what I mean by it not doing it well :) [09:42] Naw man, it's fine. It works really well [09:43] ah, hang on, I think Ubuntu's got allow_writable_chroot [09:43] definitely Debian hasn't, which is the problem I have with adding it to an already-running system; I don't want to have to change fs permissions [09:55] What I used to do was have a folder structure like chroots/user/data (or something) where user is owned by root, and data by the actual user. The homedir for the user is then pointed at the user dir [09:56] ah yeah, but then it's as bad as chrooted sftp [09:56] :/ [14:32] . [14:32] Blimey, thought that would have disconnected, rebooted the router 4 times :D [14:35] I don't understand how network connections can maintain over an intermittent link like that [14:36] I guess I should look at the protocol they use for Deep Space Communications [14:36] super low bandwidth AND regular connectivity breaks [14:38] I love that a load of radio arrays around the world are linked together to provide the Deep Space Network for satellites and probes and things around the solar system [14:38] the whole idea that we have extended networking into the solarsystem is funky - means mars collonists could conceivably get wikipedia [14:39] * diddledan listening to the ubuntu podcast. they're talking about nipples [14:39] popey: do you prefer fingering a nipple? [14:40] I never managed to get the hang of it [14:43] diddledan: If Musk has his way, Mars will be collonised and they will get high speed Internet. [14:43] \o/ [14:43] But would you be able to call it the Internet? [14:43] interplanetary net [14:43] Because Internet is Intercontenental Network [14:44] I think it should be called "planet" [14:45] Interplanet :) [14:45] they'll suck at online games multiplayer... [14:45] Don't worry zmoylan-pi, they'll have local servers. [14:45] only if ms and sony allow them [14:46] IF you think about it, Bitcoin could become the first interplanetary currancy. [14:46] Or should I say Bitcoin Cash? [14:47] If you had 1 bitcoin, over night your bitcoin split and now you have almost doubled your total value. [14:49] lol @ ubuntu podcast sting: "are you looking after your bits? why not help other people look after their bits too.." [14:50] Want to look after your bits and bytes. Put it on ZFS ;) [14:50] :-p [14:50] ZFS IS AWESOME btw.. [14:50] well btrfs is going the way of the donkey so ... [14:50] I should have gone to Debconf [14:50] It's down the road from where I live [14:50] plus btrfs really hasn't ever reached "usable" [14:50] put on clay tablets, umpteen symrian scribes can't be wrong [14:51] diddledan: We don't talk about Butter FS. [14:51] "using raid 5 ish btrfs? yeah, we killed all your data!" [14:51] and ibm are now talking about a 300tb theoretical tape drive... [14:51] yikes [14:51] ...if only i trusted tape... :-) [14:51] That'll be the next LTO generation. [14:52] I'm wondering if I should switch back to IRCCloud and drop Quassel. [14:53] now if they made a version that fitted in your phone like their micro hd in the nokia n95... [14:53] you're being very indecisive about your ircing :-D [14:53] Quassel is nice, but I miss push notifications and the ability to log-on from anywhere and not use a client. [14:53] bouncy bouncy [14:53] Yeah, you're right. I'll stick with Quassel for now. [14:53] i use irssi on a rasp pi which i can connect to from anywhere in the house from any device up to and including my nokia dumbphone use a java irc client [14:54] "there are two reviews on itunes for the ubuntu podcast, and one of them is from my mum!" [14:55] we've hit peek your mother running linux... sell! sell! sell! [14:55] diddledan: I'm getting to the point where I don't want to self host anymore. With two kids and other stuff going on, I don't really have the time to maintain it all. [14:55] yeah I hear that [14:56] I like IRCCloud. Push notifications, log-on from any browser, decent mobile app. [14:56] Quassel has an excelent Android app. [14:56] But no push :( [14:57] the nice thing i liked about quassel was that at the time i used i had a mac, windows and linux at home and quassel ran on all of them exactly the same [14:57] zmoylan-pi: That's why I like it. [14:57] Doesn't matter what device I'm on, config follows me. [14:57] Same goes with IRCCloud. [14:58] The only thing missing from IRCCloud, which I will miss in Quassel is command aliases. [15:00] diddledan: you still use IRCCloud, can you do command aliases yet? [15:03] I haven't seen anything about aliases :-( [15:05] There's probably a script or something I can install in the browser to do that anyway. [15:27] * TwistedLucidity feels like they are missing out all this l33t IRC madness [15:27] I just use Konversation, like an unwashed peasant. [15:32] lol [15:32] Eeewwh.. KDE.. [15:32] :) [15:33] It's okay, I use explorer.exe as my window manager. [15:47] I don't like pheasant [15:48] too gamey [15:48] love me a drop of bambi tho [18:19] * m0nkey_ dances \o\ /o/ \o_ _o/ === enclude1 is now known as enclude [19:56] m0nkey_: ┏(-_-)┛┗(-_-)┓┗(-_-)┛┏(-_-)┓ [20:16] So it's a dance off you want? [20:18] Wtf. The price of LastPass has doubled! [20:20] wat? [20:21] https://twitter.com/LastPass/status/893111735309275136 [20:23] Double the price for less features [20:23] I shall not be renewing. [20:23] that's really suckynuts [20:24] is there an opensauce equivalent I wonder [20:24] keypass and passwordsafe [20:25] I hear good things about DashLane, don't know how much it costs. [20:43] I did try 1Password a while back. But it's expensive, but has a shit ton of features. [20:52] I might try 1Password again. I recall the Windows and Mac apps were pretty decent. Don't recall Android. [20:57] just download a hacked version of a russian server... :-P [21:15] riiight [21:19] Hmm, 1Password is $35USD/year [21:28] I think I'm gonna go with: https://passman.cc/ [21:28] open sauce and has an android app - it's a nextcloud plooooogin [21:29] and it's integrated with nextcloud? [21:30] yup [21:31] Hmm [21:31] I don't want to self host. [22:03] I'm really disappointed with LastPass. [22:03] Everything else wants $50 or more a year. [22:06] post-its dont't :-) [22:07] lol [23:01] wow: https://www.theregister.co.uk/2017/08/03/linux_kernel_grsecurity_sues_bruce_perens_for_defamation/ [23:06] oh dear: https://www.grahamcluley.com/fbi-arrests-wannacrys-accidental-hero-connection-kronos-banking-trojan/ [23:07] in the good old days some one would have held their pints while they beat the bejebus out of one another at a convention... linux is getting all grown up now :'-) [23:07] that wannacry hero arrest seems hokey [23:22] i can't wait for all the security patches... :-) http://boingboing.net/2017/08/03/java-ported-to-commodore-64.html [23:25] wait. what? [23:59] diddledan: just found Enpass. Seems to do browser autofill and app fill on Android :)