[00:16] <Unit193> Yeah, don't know why one would need another way to launch them.  And what happens when you uninstall it? :3
[01:19] <bluesabre> Unit193: it checks for the desktop files, so they would just disappear
[01:32] <Unit193> While I haven't tried it yet, nice!  And yeah, that seems extra to me. :)
[05:42] <ochosi> bluesabre: would you think that merging the "mute" checkbox line into the icon on the left would not be discoverable enough?
[05:43] <ochosi> bluesabre: or maybe it's just the titles that make the rows really tall
[09:33] <bluesabre> ochosi: I don't think it looks bad as is, but the titles could be removed and the icon and scale could share the same line
[11:15] <flocculant> 16.04.3 marked ready
[19:22] <ochosi> bluesabre: sorry, that came out wrong then. it *really* *doesnt* look *bad* =)
[19:24] <flocculant> evening ochosi 
[19:24] <ochosi> evening flocculant 
[19:25]  * ochosi is almost on his way out again ;)
[19:25] <ochosi> prepping for holidays
[19:25] <flocculant> nice
[19:27] <flocculant> bluesabre: simple question - how do I force your pa plugin on to panel - not sure I have yours or the 'normal' one
[19:27] <ochosi> flocculant: you need the correct arguments for ./autogen.sh
[19:27] <ochosi> this is a good default: https://github.com/schuellerf/xfce-test/blob/master/Dockerfile#L42
[19:27] <ochosi> you can also try to check it out in the docker container
[19:30] <flocculant> never managed to get that docker thing to do anything but be black lol 
[19:30] <ali1234> same
[19:30] <flocculant> hi ali1234 
[19:30] <ali1234> i didn't try very hard though
[19:31] <flocculant> well yea same
[19:31] <flocculant> ochosi: thanks re L42
[19:34] <flocculant> and I'm guessing that worked - not got enormous icon now either 
[19:36] <flocculant> bluesabre: just fyi - I see cantata (mpd front end) in your pa plugin
[19:42] <flocculant> but strangely I do not see parole
[19:54] <flocculant> bluesabre: a usability thought - method to switch off volume(s) eg personally I would never use the audio input so would disable that
[20:42] <ochosi> flocculant: i also don't see parole, but tbh it also doesn't show in indicator-sound anymore, so something must be broken in the mpris2 plugin
[20:43] <ochosi> bluesabre: ^
[20:43] <knome> bluesabre, the breaker of things
[21:44] <bluesabre> ochosi: fun!
[21:45] <bluesabre> flocculant: so, muting players individually?
[21:47] <bluesabre> and I know nothing about cantana, suppose I'll take a peek at that
[21:49] <bluesabre> any reason it should not show as a player?
[21:50] <bluesabre> flocculant: and re volume, you're talking about enabling or disabling the input/output channels, right?
[23:43] <flocculant> bluesabre: ack to disabling input channel at least :D
[23:46] <flocculant> also maybe open player if you click on it in plugin - assuming it's minimised
[23:46] <flocculant> cantata is just yet another front end for mpd
[23:56] <flocculant> https://github.com/CDrummond/cantata - but in repos too