[08:59] <BluesKaj> 'Morning all
[09:21] <Zhigalin> Hi
[09:22] <BluesKaj> hi Zhigalin
[10:03] <lordievader> Good morning
[10:04] <BluesKaj> 'Morning lordievader
[10:04] <lordievader> Hey BluesKaj , how are you doing?
[10:05] <BluesKaj> good here, lordievader, and you?
[10:06] <lordievader> Doing good here :)
[10:18] <user|77184> hi
[10:35] <john85> hello :)
[10:42] <BluesKaj> hi john85
[10:44] <john85> Hi again BluesKaj
[10:45] <john85> sorry I was just posting on the forums
[10:46] <BluesKaj> no need to be sorry
[10:48] <john85> hows u?
[10:49] <BluesKaj> good here,l and you?
[10:51] <john85> not so bad
[10:51] <john85> having a few issues
[10:54] <BluesKaj> could you expand on that
[10:55] <john85> ill give you a link to my post
[10:56] <john85> https://www.kubuntuforums.net/showthread.php?t=72191
[11:05] <john85> its not a major issue,  not until i decide to want to install more software anyway
[11:08] <BluesKaj> john85, which kubuntu arte you running ?
[11:09] <john85> 14.04
[11:09] <BluesKaj> oh 14.04 , ok
[11:12] <BluesKaj> well. the change from kde/plasma 4 to kde/plasma5 is quite a big one in terms of looks and features, some better some not so much IMO ...14.04 is very stable and if you're happy with it then i recommend keeping it
[11:12] <john85> ok
[11:17] <BluesKaj> john85, google earth requires the lsb-core app to run properly , install it and GE should run fine on 14.04, but remove the present GE app first, then start over.
[11:18] <john85> GE doesnt appear to have installed at all
[11:18] <john85> and I cant install anythign at the moment
[11:19] <john85> although i have not tried to install anything through xterm
[11:20] <john85> is there a command for installing the lsb-core?
[11:24] <BluesKaj> sudo apt install lsb-core
[11:26] <BluesKaj> just a regular konsole/terminal will do
[11:33] <john85> ok...i just tried installing audacity,  and I get a message saying i need to disable third party dependancies...how do I do that?
[11:33] <john85> sorry,  third part repositories
[11:33] <john85> *party
[11:40] <BluesKaj> john85, can you pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list please
[11:44] <john85> you lost me
[11:45] <BluesKaj> that's your repository list
[11:45] <BluesKaj> !pastebin
[11:47] <BluesKaj> we need to see those 3rd party repositories
[11:50] <john85> ok,  i have taken a screen shot
[11:52] <BluesKaj> you can click on edit in the file, select all, then copy and paste to pastebin
[11:52] <john85> brb
[11:54] <john85> http://imgur.com/a/XqJwy
[11:54] <BluesKaj> forget the screenshot
[11:55] <john85> ok
[11:56] <BluesKaj> nevermind, just uncheck the 3rd party  lines there, then update
[11:57] <john85> k...updating....
[11:58] <john85> ok..finished...anything else i need to do?
[11:59] <BluesKaj> did you install some special apps from those 3rd party repos?
[11:59] <john85> only skype
[12:00] <john85> tbo not sure if skype was from any of those
[12:00] <BluesKaj> ok , open a konsole and run sudo apt update && sudo apt upgrade
[12:01] <john85> done
[12:02] <john85> oh hang on...
[12:02] <BluesKaj> no errors?
[12:02] <john85> You might want to run ‘apt-get -f install’ to correct these.
[12:02] <john85> The following packages have unmet dependencies.
[12:02] <john85>  google-earth-pro-stable : Depends: lsb-core (>= 3.2)
[12:02] <john85> E: Unmet dependencies. Try using -f.
[12:03] <john85> should i do what it says?
[12:04] <john85> looks like google earth is there...somewhere, afterall
[12:04] <BluesKaj> sudo apt install lsb-core
[12:06] <john85> did something...but at the end got...
[12:06] <john85> Unmet dependencies. Try 'apt-get -f install' with no packages (or specify a solution).
[12:08] <john85> brb
[12:08] <BluesKaj> ok, try, sudo apt-get -f install , I forgot apt-get works better on 14.04 than plain apt
[12:12] <BluesKaj> if that doesn't work you may need to do,  sudo dpkg -r google-earth-pro-stable , or whatever the correct package name is, then  apt-get update and apt-get upgrade, again
[12:31] <john85> back
[12:31] <john85> sorry about that...at work and keep getting called down to shop floor
[12:34] <BluesKaj> sudo dpkg -r  removes the package
[12:35] <BluesKaj> may need to start from scratch to get rid of the errors
[12:35] <john85> well im not getting any more error messages from the software center :)
[12:36] <BluesKaj> after running apt-get -f install?
[12:36] <john85> after running sudo apt-get -f install
[12:37] <john85> and succesfully installed audacity
[12:37] <john85> think ill give google earth a miss though
[12:37] <john85> thanks for your help
[12:39] <BluesKaj> john85, don't forget to install lsb-core
[12:39] <BluesKaj> :-)
[12:39] <john85> ok
[12:40] <BluesKaj> the google earth will work very nicely on your laptop , it's very stable on 14.04
[12:41] <john85> im afraid i will end up going though all that again though
[12:42] <john85> might save this log actually
[12:42] <BluesKaj> maybe the pro version isn't ready for prime time :/
[12:43] <BluesKaj> I had a lot of tearing on google earth pro, on Kubuntu 17.0, but that's a devel OS and one expects problems
[12:44] <BluesKaj> 17.10
[12:44] <john85> i got a real scare a couple of weeks ago just after installing KDE
[12:45] <john85> wanted to gibe
[12:45] <john85> watnted to give another version of kubuntu a try
[12:46] <john85> I had to go into UEFI to change boot order so i could boot from CD,  but i must have clicked on something i shouldnt have,  no idea what,  but it rebooted and came up with...
[12:46] <john85> "preparing automatic repair"
[12:47] <john85> I just panicked and held down the power button to shut it down
[12:47] <BluesKaj> 14,04 LTS is avery good choice for a work machine
[12:47] <john85> went to turn the computer on again....nothing
[12:47] <john85> blank screen
[12:47] <john85> not even the HDD light blinked
[12:48] <john85> i said a four letter profanity..thinking the worse
[12:49] <john85> i tried a few times,  before leaving it for an hour and trying one more time before bed...when it fired up just fine
[12:49] <john85> so I have no idea what the problem was
[12:49] <BluesKaj> ok good
[12:50] <john85> i had a windows recovery disc (which is supposed to work even if the computer does not power up) but that was about as useful as a chocolate tea pot
[12:51] <BluesKaj> dunno much about uefi machines, I don't even use gpt tableor the uefi settings on my lenovo g500 laptop
[12:51] <john85> brb again
[12:51] <BluesKaj> ok
[12:53] <john85> back
[12:54] <john85> i have windows 8.1 on mine as well,  since i use programs like reason and FL studio for music production
[12:54] <john85> i have heard of wine,  but I know reason has issues running on wine
[12:58] <BluesKaj> reason ? no clue
[13:00] <BluesKaj> the few times we've recorded some tunes was with Reaper ...seemed to easy enough to use
[13:00] <BluesKaj> err easy enough
[13:00] <john85> music production package  https://www.propellerheads.se/en/reason :)
[13:01] <john85> have ypu heard of LMMS?
[13:04] <BluesKaj> no
[13:06] <BluesKaj> we're an old school rock and country-rock band ...basically a garage band actually :-)
[13:06] <john85> cool :)
[13:08] <john85> i had another question,  but cant remember what it was now :(
[13:11] <john85> so what is your band called?
[13:12] <BluesKaj> you mentioned anti virus ... as long as your windows install is well protected that's mostly what matters ...there aren't many viruses that affect linux ,,I haven't come across any in my 12 yrs of linux use...but linux can poas a virus to windows , so one has to be careful
[13:12] <BluesKaj> pass
[13:12] <john85> ok thanks
[13:13] <BluesKaj> our band doesn't have a name anymore, onr of core members who gave the band a name passed away last fall so we're withot a handle right now
[13:15] <BluesKaj> we used to be called "the house of battered men"   :-)
[13:15] <john85> i go by the name Prototype,  for a long time i didn't go by a name at all since I have only ever shared my music with one other person
[13:15] <john85> cool name
[13:17] <BluesKaj> we recorded a cd about 15yrs ago , but it was pretty rough around the edges sound-wise ...for internal use only :-)
[13:17] <john85> i only make music for myself...I'm not confident enough to share it
[13:18] <BluesKaj> yeah, I understand.
[13:24] <john85> i gtg....i need to get some work done
[13:24] <john85> thanks again for your help,  speak again soon i hope
[13:28] <user|61409> update kubuntu 16.04
[13:29] <user|61409> how to update kubuntu 16.04 ?
[13:29] <yellowfinluna> sudo apt update && sudo apt upgrade
[13:29] <yellowfinluna> put that into konsole
[13:29] <yellowfinluna> or terminal
[13:30] <user|61409> think you veryyr much
[13:30] <yellowfinluna> you're very welcome c:
 Good day everyone!
[18:51] <clivejo> hi
[21:17] <user|28999> how easy is Kubntu to install on Mac Sierra OS x