| mobbydoux | Hi all , I was installed anbox+snap, and i remove her, but i have a enter in env : PATH=/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/snap/bin | 01:30 |
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| mobbydoux | How can delete ? | 01:30 |
| mobbydoux | cmd : sudo env|grep PATH | 01:30 |
| jbicha | mobbydoux: snap is supposed to be in PATH, it's ok | 01:40 |
| mobbydoux | yes realy ? is in default in PATH ? becaue i have use 1 hour or remove all snap and anbox lol | 01:41 |
| mobbydoux | It's no a problem if in snap in my PATH ? | 01:44 |
| jbicha | it's no problem | 01:48 |
| mobbydoux | ok ^^ | 01:50 |
| mobbydoux | So now i have the question | 01:51 |
| mobbydoux | I have a script who run 4x Xterm, 2 Xterm have cmd with sudo, how i can no use sudo is the term ? | 01:51 |
| jbicha | you might have better luck asking in a more general channel like #ubuntu | 01:52 |
| mobbydoux | i have tried but nothing now ^^ | 01:53 |
| mobbydoux | i like gnome but for run lot of term is not the better | 01:53 |
| jbicha | it's a bit late in many people's timezones | 02:25 |
| mobbydoux | xD | 02:26 |
| mobbydoux | sleep is for human im a machine | 02:26 |
| jbicha | good to meet you | 02:27 |
| mobbydoux | Hello human | 02:27 |
| jbicha | please put in a good word for me with the other machines, I don't want any trouble :) | 02:27 |
| mobbydoux | you want $FRIENDS ? | 02:27 |
| mobbydoux | Im a goot export FRIEND=$(it's not a good friend) | 02:28 |
| mobbydoux | If you open a Xterm you can see me | 02:29 |
| mobbydoux | 01101010 ? | 02:32 |
| mobbydoux | 011001010111011010 ? | 02:32 |
| mobbydoux | Why uou don't answer $FRIENDS ? | 02:33 |
| mobbydoux | FRIENDS=$(satan -6 -s -6 | awk 'cut C-6 | sed s'/go/out/friend/); | 02:34 |
| mobbydoux | sorry in my country is 4:35AM | 02:35 |
| mobbydoux | you want i send you a pig ? and you answere me | 02:35 |
| mobbydoux | i creat a smal Xterm just with a point for see when you ping me | 02:36 |
| mobbydoux | It's yhe futur of communication with human | 02:36 |
| mobbydoux | just with a point 1 or 0 yes or no light or down | 02:37 |
| mobbydoux | xD | 02:38 |
| mobbydoux | ok @jbicha i have a other question for you:: I have a script, and when it run, 2 Xterm open and run a cmd with sudo. How i can no use sudo ? | 02:40 |
| Bio_Hazard | test | 04:25 |
| mobbydoux | over | 04:26 |
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| lexruee | jbicha: is there a reason why the package gnome-shell-extensions is missing in the artful-desktop-amd64.iso? http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-gnome/daily-live/current/artful-desktop-amd64.manifest | 11:47 |
| darkxst | lexruee, its there, gnome-shell-extensions3.24.2-0ubuntu2 | 11:59 |
| lexruee | darkxst: okay, now its there :-). it wasn't there when i downloaded the manifest file^^. anyways, thx. | 12:10 |
| darkxst | not sure how it couldnt be there | 12:13 |
| darkxst | reverse-depends gnome-shell-extensions | 12:13 |
| darkxst | Reverse-Depends | 12:13 |
| darkxst | =============== | 12:13 |
| darkxst | * gnome-core | 12:13 |
| darkxst | * ubuntu-gnome-desktop [amd64 arm64 armhf i386 ppc64el] | 12:14 |
| darkxst | Packages without architectures listed are reverse-dependencies in: amd64, arm64, armhf, i386, ppc64el, s390x | 12:14 |
| darkxst | that said it doesnt appear to be seeded in Ubuntu dailies yet | 12:15 |
| jbicha | darkxst: we haven't even filed a MIR for it yet | 12:19 |
| jbicha | I believe Ubuntu doesn't want to include GNOME Classic by default so if there is an extension we wanted, we'd need to split the package | 12:21 |
| darkxst | jbicha, but GNOME classic is part of the upstream experience! | 12:22 |
| darkxst | I would say it should be there, after all they are the *only* extensions that are actually maintained upstream! | 12:23 |
| jbicha | darkxst: I'd argue that GNOME Classic is only an optional part of GNOME | 12:26 |
| lexruee | without the package gnome-shell-extensions the ubuntu gnome desktop is basically incomplete and broken in my opinion. it will miss basic dependencies such as gir1.2-gmenu-3.0. anyways, i'm not a ubuntu user. | 12:27 |
| darkxst | jbicha, its a core dep | 12:27 |
| darkxst | pretty sure we have plenty of users that use classic | 12:28 |
| darkxst | and RHEL use it by default, no not like maintainership is a huge issue | 12:28 |
| darkxst | s/no/so/ | 12:28 |
| jbicha | sure, but gnome-photos, gnome-music, initial-setup, the Adwaita theme are also part of GNOME Core | 12:29 |
| jbicha | one issue is having too many options on the login screen | 12:29 |
| jbicha | darkxst: you're welcome to file the MIR and start a discussion on the u-desktop list | 12:30 |
| darkxst | jbicha, I will, a little surprised it hasnt been considered as yet, but then I guess there is a lot going on, and I have been next to MIA | 12:31 |
| jbicha | another issue is that Ubuntu is planning to customize their default session a bit, add some kind of dock, right? | 12:31 |
| jbicha | but would they need to do the same to GNOME Classic? | 12:32 |
| darkxst | I think they want to add a cut-down dock-to-dash | 12:32 |
| jbicha | on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam/GNOME/MIR_List I suggested it could be in the 'supported' seed | 12:32 |
| darkxst | as a seperate gnome-shell mode | 12:32 |
| darkxst | I don't think Ken atleast really gets the underlying details | 12:33 |
| jbicha | and upstream GNOME Classic uses X not Wayland | 12:33 |
| jbicha | https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=780258 | 12:33 |
| ubot5 | Gnome bug 780258 in extensions "Classic: Enable Wayland" [Normal,New] | 12:33 |
| jbicha | if somebody installed all the sessions (Ubuntu, GNOME, GNOME Classic, Ubuntu Clasic [?]) in X and Wayland versions, it's really quite a lot | 12:34 |
| darkxst | and what is the problem with classic using X? | 12:34 |
| jbicha | because GNOME and Ubuntu are defaulting to Wayland and some people want to use GNOME Classic with Wayland | 12:34 |
| darkxst | I don't think there will be an Ubuntu Classic, just Ubuntu with a few customisations | 12:35 |
| jbicha | didn't you talk to Ken last week? ;) | 12:35 |
| darkxst | yes | 12:35 |
| darkxst | I honestly don't think wayland by default is realistic for 17.10 | 12:36 |
| darkxst | fedora get away with it because apparently their users are more accustomed to missing features | 12:37 |
| jbicha | if there hadn't been the big April announcement, I think Ubuntu GNOME 17.10 might have been Wayland by default… | 12:37 |
| darkxst | and perhaps our fallback story is not as good? | 12:37 |
| darkxst | jbicha, not while there are issues with black-screen gdm | 12:40 |
| darkxst | and btw did I miss some memo? is Fedora using wayland by default yet? | 12:42 |
| jbicha | darkxst: yes since Fedora 25, see also https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Common_F25_bugs#Wayland_issues | 12:43 |
| jbicha | by using a GNOME Shell mode, there isn't a need for the user-themes extension to be included by default | 12:46 |
| ricotz | hey | 12:47 |
| darkxst | hey ricotz | 12:47 |
| ricotz | ubuntu-gnome-desktop still recommends kerneloops-daemon instead of kerneloops | 12:48 |
| ricotz | darkxst, hi | 12:48 |
| jbicha | I believe the plan is for u-g-desktop to become a transitional package depending on u-desktop, just needs someone to do it | 12:52 |
| ricotz | oh, I thought it will still be around to have a vanilla gnome experience? | 12:52 |
| jbicha | and then there will be a new metapackage for a more vanilla GNOME, didrocks want to name it 'gnome-session' | 12:52 |
| ricotz | I see | 12:53 |
| darkxst | I don't like the gnome-session idea though | 12:59 |
| jbicha | I would have rather had a separate metapackage too rather than reusing the name gnome-session | 13:03 |
| jbicha | darkxst: are you interested in doing the packaging for the new metapackage? | 13:03 |
| darkxst | jbicha, if I can find time, back at work Mon | 13:06 |
| jbicha | ok, let me know if you don't get around to it | 13:10 |
| darkxst | jbicha, will do | 13:29 |
| darkxst | but its dumping snow here, if I didnt have a work meeting in Melbourne Monday, would be on my way back up already ;( | 13:32 |
| darkxst | jbicha, on a unrelated note, probably we should build mozjs with --enable-posix-nspr-emulation | 13:36 |
| darkxst | nspr is not really required anymore in a thread safe build | 13:36 |
| darkxst | (but apparently still depends on headers regardless) | 13:36 |
| jbicha | darkxst: I don't know enough about that, Fedora still uses '--with-system-nspr' too | 13:43 |
| darkxst | theoretically it should improve performance slightly, nspr is overkill for what its used for these days | 13:45 |
| darkxst | btw I think its new for 52 or 45 | 13:46 |
| titou | greetings everyone! | 14:27 |
| titou | I need help about gnome and window decoration :( | 14:28 |
| titou | top window buttons are top left... How do I change that ? | 14:28 |
| titou | minimize, maximize, close | 14:30 |
| darkxst | titou, we ship them on the right, and UBuntu will follow | 14:31 |
| darkxst | you can use gnome-tweak-tool to change them in the meanwhile | 14:32 |
| titou | I'm not ubuntu-gnome ... | 14:33 |
| titou | 16.04 lts | 14:33 |
| darkxst | titou, but your in the ubuntu GNOME channel? | 14:34 |
| titou | gnome-tweak-tool is up... | 14:34 |
| titou | where do i go from there ? 'Windows' | 14:35 |
| darkxst | windows -> placement | 14:36 |
| darkxst | and probably you will get better support from #ubuntu, this is mostly a development channel | 14:37 |
| titou | 'Placement' is not there ! : ))) | 14:37 |
| titou | jez... | 14:38 |
| darkxst | maybe different on 16.04 | 14:38 |
| darkxst | but it was in there also | 14:38 |
| darkxst | as a last resort there is a button-layout in gsettings but you shouldnt need to dig that deep | 14:40 |
| jbicha | Placement is new in 17.10 | 14:40 |
| titou | oh | 14:41 |
| darkxst | what was it called previously ? | 14:41 |
| titou | so dconf ? | 14:41 |
| jbicha | it didn't have a simple switch at all for changing the side for window buttons | 14:41 |
| darkxst | jbicha, what did it have? | 14:42 |
| titou | no | 14:42 |
| darkxst | i Could have sworn it handled button layouts? | 14:42 |
| darkxst | or am I just hallucinating from to much travels? | 14:43 |
| jbicha | gsettings set org.gnome.desktop.wm.preferences button-layout ':appmenu,minimize,maximize,close' | 14:43 |
| jbicha | run that command in a terminal ^ | 14:44 |
| jbicha | it handles buttons, it just didn't let you switch from right to left | 14:44 |
| titou | lol | 14:44 |
| titou | it works ! : ))) | 14:45 |
| darkxst | ok, guess I never actually looked that closely then! | 14:45 |
| darkxst | speaking of which how is your python going, since you seem be maintaing gnome-tweak-tool now? | 14:46 |
| titou | thanks ! | 14:47 |
| titou | I just flushed my Windows10 and switch to ubuntu 16.04... works like a charm but I trying to make it looks like windows 7 ... | 14:48 |
| darkxst | titou, step outside your comfort zone for a week, try GNOME as it was meant to be, then report back if you still want it like win7! | 14:50 |
| titou | 2 labtop with kali, server with ubuntu 16.04 kde and main pc with ubuntu 16.04 gnome | 14:50 |
| titou | before 16.04 it was easy to change theme and control the look of gnome but now, it's a nightmare :( | 14:52 |
| darkxst | titou, ubuntu 16.04 does not use GNOME | 14:59 |
| darkxst | that is why ww made Ubuntu GNOME | 14:59 |
| titou | first hand on Linux was 1997, redhat 4.2 with a window manager called xwm95 ... | 15:00 |
| titou | every thing (menu, decoration, icons) was done by hand | 15:00 |
| titou | it was fantastic upgrade from win95 | 15:01 |
| darkxst | still not | 15:01 |
| darkxst | GNOME! | 15:01 |
| titou | : ) yeah I know | 15:01 |
| titou | my photoshop 7 is running better on my new setup then win10 ! amazing | 15:02 |
| titou | starcraft wroks great too | 15:03 |
| titou | *works | 15:03 |
| darkxst | titou, if you want to contribute toward the future of GNOME on Ubuntu we can help you | 15:04 |
| darkxst | if not and you just need support, then head over to #ubuntu | 15:04 |
| titou | thanks guys, you solved my problem | 15:05 |
| titou | have a great day ! | 15:05 |
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