[00:27] <mate|23378> Hello
[00:28] <mate|23378> I am new to Linux, currently installing ubuntu mate, I am having some issues and it d be very helpful if someone can help me
[00:28] <mate|23378> My installation has been stuck for 1h30 on installing grub2 packages, is this normal?
[00:30] <Jack_Sparrow> no
[00:31] <Jack_Sparrow> did you have decent internet running live usb ?
[00:35] <mate|23378> Yes I do
[00:35] <mate|23378> But it s a slow notebook however
[00:36] <mate|23378> 4gb ram, Intel celeron dual core (1,1 to 2,4 ghz)
[00:36] <Jack_Sparrow> My install takes 15 minutes if I reuse existing partitions
[00:36] <Jack_Sparrow> 32 bit ?
[00:36] <mate|23378> I am doing a full install, removing windows 10 completely
[00:37] <mate|23378> 64 bits
[00:37] <Jack_Sparrow> 90 minutes is too log
[00:37] <mate|23378> Should I restart the notebook and try starting the installation from scratch?
[00:40] <Jack_Sparrow> yes and dont connect to the internet this time
[00:41] <mate|23378> I am doing that right now
[00:41] <Jack_Sparrow> Ill be around
[00:42] <mate|23378> Jack, thank you a lot for your time, I am hoping it goes smoothly this time
[00:43] <Jack_Sparrow> If not try the mint mate flavor also headed by Clem
[00:44] <Jack_Sparrow> xfce might be lighter on that hardware
[00:44] <Jack_Sparrow> lmde
[00:45] <mate|23378> Mint mate would be lighter?
[00:45] <Jack_Sparrow> no
[00:45] <Jack_Sparrow> xfce or lmde
[00:46] <mate|23378> I will take a look at those if the installation gets stuck once again
[00:46] <mate|23378> Or if the machine seems to under perform
[00:46] <Jack_Sparrow> getting stuck is not necessarilly pointing to that though
[00:48] <mate|23378> It just got to the grub2 package
[00:48] <Jack_Sparrow> progress
[00:48] <mate|23378> I am timing it
[00:49] <mate|23378> Once it gets to grub2 package the mouse cursor also gets stuck
[00:50] <Jack_Sparrow> but it ran fine live usb ?
[00:51] <Jack_Sparrow> I have no answer for you then
[00:52] <Jack_Sparrow> not bluetooth mouse is it?
[00:52] <mate|23378> It ran very well liveon usb
[00:52] <Jack_Sparrow> nothing special
[00:52] <mate|23378> It is the notebooks mouse
[00:53] <Jack_Sparrow> I got nothing that will help you here guy
[00:54] <Jack_Sparrow> At least try mint mate, thats what I use , im not trying to steal users just get yo something that works
[00:54] <mate|23378> Thank you for your time either way, windows already got erased
[00:54] <mate|23378> So I can only run on the live version from the usb
[00:54] <Jack_Sparrow> dl mint mate and mint xfce
[00:55] <mate|23378> Is there a way for me to make an usb stick of that from the ubuntu mate live version?
[00:55] <mate|23378> My windows seems to have been erased already
[00:55] <Jack_Sparrow> have a second usb port
[00:56] <mate|23378> Is there some Rufus replacement for linux?
[00:56] <Jack_Sparrow> grab the iso and use usb image writer to end it to the other usb
[00:56] <Jack_Sparrow> hit super key type USB
[00:57] <Jack_Sparrow> damn, hope that is the same for you
[00:58] <mate|23378> I have no operating system besides the usb, not the situation I was hoping to be at
[00:58] <Jack_Sparrow> Thats why I want to see if I can help you here.  what make model of notebook
[00:58] <ubuntu-mate> Hello
[00:59] <Jack_Sparrow> Welcome to Mae Support
[00:59] <Jack_Sparrow> Mate
[00:59] <mate|23378> Acer aspire es15
[00:59] <Jack_Sparrow> acer here
[01:00] <Jack_Sparrow> gimme a min to reseach
[01:00] <Jack_Sparrow> Are you booting in compatibility mode ?
[01:02] <Jack_Sparrow> http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-laptop-and-netbook-25/linux-mint-17-3-on-acer-aspire-e15-freezing-during-boot-and-randomly-during-use-4175574952/
[01:02] <mate|23378> I don't know, all I know is I am booting from the usb stick
[01:02] <Jack_Sparrow> reading now
[01:03] <Jack_Sparrow> When you boot the live system, move your selection to 'Try Elementary OS without installing', then press 'E' on your keyboard (for editing the boot options).
[01:03] <Jack_Sparrow> Move the cursor to the line where it says "Linux ....... splash screen" at the end of the line insert a space and then write 'modprobe.blacklist=dw_dmac,dw_dmac_core'.
[01:03] <Jack_Sparrow> Hit F10 for booting. Now install Elementary OS and reboot.
[01:03] <Jack_Sparrow> -Turn on your notebook and do all the updates (sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade).
[01:03] <Jack_Sparrow> Next open a terminal and write 'sudo nano /etc/default/grub', go to the line where it says 'GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash"' and change it to 'GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash modprobe.blacklist=dw_dmac,dw_dmac_core"'. On your keyboard press 'Control + X', then 'Y' and 'Enter' to save and exit. Now write 'sudo update-grub' in the terminal.
[01:03] <Jack_Sparrow> Reboot and you should be done!
[01:03] <Jack_Sparrow> dmac was my deamon here too
[01:03] <Jack_Sparrow> you there...
[01:04] <Jack_Sparrow> kernel above 4.5 will fix most of that
[01:05] <mate|23378> I am going to try that
[01:05] <mate|23378> Not sure how to do it
[01:06] <Jack_Sparrow> you will reboot the usb and edit it..
[01:06] <mate|23378> So I try to open the lI've version, press e before it loads
[01:06] <Jack_Sparrow> E or tab and replace quiet ans splash with  modprobe.blacklist=dw_dmac,dw_dmac_core
[01:07] <Jack_Sparrow> and do the install with internet and if that fails.. without
[01:07] <Jack_Sparrow> Ill wait
[01:08] <mate|23378> So after I pressed e I see the following
[01:08] <Jack_Sparrow> go down that page
[01:09] <Jack_Sparrow> a lot of backspaces to get to quiet and splash
[01:10] <mate|23378> Linux   /casper/vmlinuz.efi.   file=/cdrom/pressed/ubuntu-mate.seed boot=casper  quiet splash ---
[01:10] <Jack_Sparrow> yep
[01:10] <Jack_Sparrow>  Linux   /casper/vmlinuz.efi.   file=/cdrom/pressed/ubuntu-mate.seed boot=casper   modprobe.blacklist=dw_dmac,dw_dmac_core ---
[01:11] <Jack_Sparrow> then boot it
[01:12] <mate|23378> It is booting
[01:12] <Jack_Sparrow> good luck
[01:13] <Jack_Sparrow> updating kerenel needs to be a priority or live with newer then 4.5 kernel
[01:13] <mate|23378> I am going to try to install again with Internet on as you suggested
[01:13] <Jack_Sparrow> gotta have some luck here too
[01:14] <Jack_Sparrow> that prob has an atheros wifi which also has a fix if you have one
[01:15] <mate|23378> Should I download updates and install third party software during the installation?
[01:16] <Jack_Sparrow> sure
[01:22] <Jack_Sparrow> still there
[01:23] <mate|23378> Yes
[01:23] <mate|23378> It is retrieving files, creating user
[01:23] <mate|23378> Not stuck so far
[01:23] <Jack_Sparrow> keep fingers crossed..
[01:27] <Jack_Sparrow> Best guess is three minutes
[01:28] <mate|23378> It is at grub2 package
[01:28] <mate|23378> Cursor stuck
[01:28] <Jack_Sparrow> damn
[01:28] <Jack_Sparrow> ok without internet
[01:29] <Jack_Sparrow> If that fails we need to try a copy of Mint 18.2
[01:30] <mate|23378> I am trying without Internet
[01:30] <Jack_Sparrow> UMate 17.4 shouls be fine though
[01:31] <Jack_Sparrow> I feel bad for you ..  this is last option for UMate unless you got a bad image on that USB
[01:33] <mate|23378> The problem is windows 10 is already gone
[01:33] <Jack_Sparrow> I know
[01:34] <Jack_Sparrow> time for dinner, but I will keep an eye open here
[01:35] <mate|23378> Perfect, bon appetitravail
[01:35] <mate|23378> Appétit
[01:41] <mate|23378> It just got back to grub2
[01:41] <Jack_Sparrow> k
[01:42] <mate|23378> Cursor stuck again
[01:42] <Jack_Sparrow> use live usb to make new image of any live usb and try agaon
[01:44] <mate|23378> How can I get live usb
[01:52] <Jack_Sparrow> are you on usb now?
[01:53] <mate|23378> I am
[01:53] <mate|23378> I am trying a last time
[01:53] <mate|23378> I doubt it will work
[01:53] <Jack_Sparrow> download another linux
[01:53] <mate|23378> Wich one would you recommend ? Lite ?
[01:54] <Jack_Sparrow> xfce perhaps and write that to a differnt usb
[01:54] <Jack_Sparrow> I love Mate, sorry you are having issues
[01:55] <Jack_Sparrow> did you check integrity if you have that option
[01:56] <mate|23378> The thing is I want something light wich can be easy to adapt to coming from Windows
[01:56] <mate|23378> I don't know much about linux
[01:57] <Jack_Sparrow> What version mate is that?
[01:57] <mate|23378> 17.10
[01:57] <mate|23378> 64 bits
[01:58] <Jack_Sparrow> Not sure why but I would try Mint Mate 17.3  64
[01:58] <Jack_Sparrow> I know we are on 18.2
[01:58] <mate|23378> And adaptateur downloading it, how can I make the Bootable usb on Linux?
[01:59] <Jack_Sparrow> usb image writer
[01:59] <mate|23378> After*
[01:59] <mate|23378> Can I download that from Mozilla as I would do in Windows ?
[02:00] <Jack_Sparrow> Running live save a copy of your dl to a spare flash of burn a dvd
[02:00] <Jack_Sparrow> !find usb image writer
[02:00] <ubottu> image is not a valid distribution: artful, artful-backports, artful-proposed, kubuntu-backports, kubuntu-experimental, kubuntu-updates, partner, precise, precise-backports, precise-proposed, stable, testing, trusty, trusty-backports, trusty-proposed, unstable, utopic, utopic-backports, utopic-proposed, vivid, vivid-backports, vivid-proposed, wily, wily-backports, wily-proposed, xenial, xenial-backports, xenial-proposed, yakkety, yakkety-backports, ya
[02:01] <Jack_Sparrow> !info mintstick
[02:01] <ubottu> Package mintstick does not exist in zesty
[02:01] <Jack_Sparrow> damn
[02:05] <mate|23378> I am installing etcher
[02:05] <mate|23378> From mate software boutique
[02:05] <Jack_Sparrow> good
[02:06] <mate|23378> To make the usb image
[02:06] <mate|23378> Wich distro should I try for an easy to install one, light ?
[02:07] <Jack_Sparrow> xfce but i am biased
[02:08] <mate|23378> Is it easy to use for someone new to Linux?
[02:08] <Jack_Sparrow> yes
[02:08] <mate|23378> I am new so I don't have any preferences, I just want to get something working
[02:09] <mate|23378> Xfce.organismes
[02:09] <mate|23378> .org?
[02:09] <mate|23378> It says it is a desktop environment
[02:09] <Jack_Sparrow> go to mint
[02:10] <mate|23378> I am there, on the main page
[02:10] <mate|23378> I am on Linux mint on download, I have the list of all versions in front of me
[02:11] <Jack_Sparrow> 4 flavors..  try xfce
[02:12] <mate|23378> Downloading
[02:12] <mate|23378> 1,5 gb it should be done in about 5 mins
[02:13] <mate|23378> How can I format the usb on Ubuntu?
[02:14] <mate|23378> Right click is not working as it does in Windows to format the usb
[02:17] <Jack_Sparrow> !find image
[02:17] <ubottu> Found: cloud-image-utils, genisoimage, imagemagick, imagemagick-6-common, imagemagick-6.q16, libcupsimage2, libcupsimage2-dev, libimage-magick-perl, libimage-magick-q16-perl, libnginx-mod-http-image-filter (and 329 others) http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=image&searchon=names&suite=zesty&section=all
[02:17] <Jack_Sparrow> !find usb
[02:17] <ubottu> Found: gir1.2-gusb-1.0, ippusbxd, libgusb-dev, libgusb-doc, libgusb2, libusb-0.1-4, libusb-1.0-0, libusb-1.0-0-dev, libusb-1.0-doc, libusb-dev (and 69 others) http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=usb&searchon=names&suite=zesty&section=all
[02:18] <Jack_Sparrow> image writer should handle it all but dont know name of ubuntu's
[02:19] <mate|23378> I can't download it
[02:19] <mate|23378> Not enough space
[02:19] <Jack_Sparrow> burn to dvd
[02:19] <mate|23378> It is a notebook
[02:19] <Jack_Sparrow> is iso on desktop?
[02:19] <mate|23378> No CD
[02:20] <mate|23378> The notebook doesn't have a cd option
[02:20] <Jack_Sparrow> in a terminal..  sudo dd if=/path/to/source/.iso of=/path/to/usb/
[02:20] <Jack_Sparrow> in a terminal..  sudo dd if=/path/to/source/.iso of=/path/to/usb/
[02:21] <Jack_Sparrow> need to finish dinner
[02:21] <Jack_Sparrow> read up on dd
[02:21] <Jack_Sparrow> aka disk destroyer.. but great tool
[09:57] <wallie> did anyone download the ubuntu mate 16.04.3. amd64 iso in the past 24 hours? Would like to compare the sha256 sum. the one given on the website is the one of the 16.04.2 amd64 image
[10:02] <karjala> if you download from torrents, is there a reason to check the hash anymore?
[10:02] <karjala> I don't know, just asking
[10:06] <wallie> I guss so, to make sure that the download is not corrupted?! I have not setup a torrent client on this machine so I took the http download. I can say that the USB stick built fine with the 16.04.3 image. As I plan to put this image on my main machine, I wanted to play it safe.
[10:27] <firstclass> hola
[10:36] <sixwheeledbeast^> I would say corruption is a good reason to check hashes
[12:15] <Jack_Sparrow> Aloha
[16:45] <deskwizard> Howdy :)
[16:54] <Jack_Sparrow> Aloha
[16:55] <Jack_Sparrow> Thats Howdy sideways coming or going
[16:56] <deskwizard> lol
[16:56]  * deskwizard bows down
[17:05] <clay> Greetings, I'm trying to get Mate working on my raspberry but no matter the install method It doesn't read it /produce a green light.  I'm following the directoins on the site - any suggestions?
[17:08] <Jack_Sparrow> They get mad when I tell you raspberry guys to go to pi.. their help room.     so good luck be patient
[17:09] <deskwizard> Oh while I'm here... any of you guys had any luck getting gnome-maps location working? if not it's okay, I'll somewhat hunt through the code but i figured I'd ask before getting too much into that
[17:12] <deskwizard> I tried running it from command line to see if it would give me an error of some sort when I try to get to the location settings, but no luck
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=== mel is now known as Guest12567
[18:37] <Guest12567> hi all
[18:46] <magkneetoe> jey
[19:26] <lonelyduck> hi, how do I disable the minimzation effect on windows ? its a bit annoying for me
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[20:22] <sixwheeledbeast^> minimisation effect? Fancy compositing window manager?
[20:34] <Jack_Sparrow> !info os-prober
[20:34] <ubottu> os-prober (source: os-prober): utility to detect other OSes on a set of drives. In component main, is optional. Version 1.74ubuntu1 (zesty), package size 19 kB, installed size 103 kB
[21:49] <tony_> wolflander
[23:40] <Jack_Sparrow> !find qtbase5
[23:40] <ubottu> Found: qtbase5-dev, qtbase5-dev-tools, qtbase5-doc, qtbase5-examples, qtbase5-private-dev
[23:41] <Jack_Sparrow> !info qtbase5-dev
[23:41] <ubottu> qtbase5-dev (source: qtbase-opensource-src): Qt 5 base development files. In component main, is optional. Version 5.7.1+dfsg-2ubuntu4~1.17.04.1 (zesty), package size 1009 kB, installed size 12862 kB