[00:00] <drab> dunno what your hw is, but thought I'd mention because after finally being able to install in EFI I thought I had it
[00:00] <drab> and I was soooo wrong...
[00:00] <drab> :)
[00:00] <drab> yeah, sucked to be me that week
[00:00] <drab> on the up side I learned quite a bit through the process
[00:00] <drab> so I don't really mind, just need to take a step back for perspective, in the moment it quite sucked I admit
[00:04] <sarnold> plus no nvme booting :/ on a machine that could probably stand to use some help booting more quickly :)
[00:04] <drab> nah, I think I got that covered, I put in a pci-e adapter and slapped a m2-ssd in it :P
[00:05] <drab> that's one of the many nice things I found out about in that week
[00:05] <sarnold> that worked but the nvme didn't? o_O how's that different?
[00:05] <drab> there's actually some surprisingly cheap things you can do with pci-e expansion slots and m2
[00:06] <drab> yeah, the pci-e adapter still has a sata cable going to the sata port on the mobo
[00:06] <drab> so the disk is still presented to the bios as a sas device
[00:06] <sarnold> really? is that just for booting? or .. now.. now I'm confused again
[00:06] <drab> for booting and OS, I got a dual card, one side is a m2sata, the other is nvme
[00:07] <drab> so the sata is for OS/booting, the nvme for app
[00:07] <drab> all in one pci-e
[00:07] <sarnold> ohho
[00:07] <sarnold> that's clever
[00:07] <drab> and the nvme is accessed through pci-e bus, which in the X9 feeds right into the CPU, it's pretty neat
[00:07] <drab> while the m2 goes through standard sata bus, but it's plenty for Os/boot
[00:08] <drab> it's both a headache and fun to find creative way to make the little donation money work
[00:09] <drab> but you can build a 32cores, 128GB of ram with nvme for ~$700 on a good day
[00:09] <drab> and beats in reliability, power comsumption and maintenance all the donated desktops they were using
[00:10] <drab> (moving some off to containers on that srv as I type... finishing cups instance up)
[00:12] <sarnold> zounds nice work
[00:13] <drab> I'd rather be doing woodwork all the time :P
[00:13] <sarnold> you resisted the temptation to just keep looking at slightly newer and slightly newer gear..
[00:13] <drab> but they need this more than they need work, so whatever, I'm here to help after all
[00:13] <drab> sarnold: well there just isn't the money... :P
[00:13] <sarnold> drab: oh that helps
[00:14] <drab> at this point I figured that 2 generations old is the sweet spot... you get new features and relatively upgradable tech while costs have dropped substantially
[00:14] <sarnold> I started out skimming ebay and deepdiscountservers and kept going for better efficiency and quieter and so on..
[00:14] <drab> in the case of SM for example the X10 and X11 have of course many improvements, but to this business case it really doesn't make a difference
[00:15] <drab> and we have a remote basement :P
[00:15] <drab> wouldn't want this in a homelab for sure
[00:15] <drab> yeah, I've done that too, then I look at the budget I was given and hit the back button :)
[00:16] <sarnold> :)
[00:16] <drab> it's very time consuming to build custom like this tho, I'd never do it for a business
[00:16] <drab> you can save quite a bit and get quite a lot out of each $$, but it's a huge time sink, you'd spend more in wages at that point
[00:18] <sarnold> I was happy to pay thinkmate to build and test it for me; I don't have any parts tha I could use for troubleshooting, and that class of hardware was entirely new to me. I didn't want to wind up with a few thousand dollars worth of parts that didn't want to play well together
[00:18] <drab> yeah totally, I was on the edge for the whole week because no matter how much I gogoled I just couldn't be sure
[00:18] <drab> but there's also 30 days return
[00:19] <sarnold> well done with the neato sata + pci mixed thing. crazy.
[00:20] <drab> the worst part was to get the power cable over since the chassis aren't really designed for that...
[00:20] <drab> it's a SAS case with a backplane, no SATA business even tho it has sata connectors on the mobo
[00:21] <sarnold> heh that was half of why I liked thinkmate there -- even though it's got a sas expander they were prepared to sell it with sata drives plugged in. :)
[00:55] <rose_> can someone tell me why downloading from an internet ip like using http is faster than using http from a local pc on the lan. the download speed from the internet is 3megabytes/s while local pc source is 30kb/s!! can someone tell me what's up? I'm downloading to a laptop pentium 3 with gigabit card from a iis web server on windows 7 that has also gigabit card
[01:03] <cncr04s> something is wrong then
[01:04] <cncr04s> you would need to diagnose the issue
[01:04] <cncr04s> its either the nic, cable, the server/config
[01:05] <rose_> I can test with samba if I knew how
[01:05] <rose_> cncr04s: do you know about iis
[01:08] <cncr04s> I used it once a long time ago, I'm an apache person
[01:11] <rose_> I know my nic is fine cause it can download a 3MB from the internet must be the iis
[01:11] <rose_> I'll use another pc good idea
[01:15] <rose_> a third laptop with windows 10 on wireless n downloads at 5mb/s is not iis
[01:25] <rose_> i'm using links2 to download the file could that be why? where to change download speed? I checked couldn't find
[01:27] <sarnold> I guess that's a possibility; try wget or curl, those should hit almost-wire speeds no trouble
[01:27] <sarnold> even on a p3
[01:27] <sarnold> maybe not full gig,but hopefullysomething better than 30kbps :)
[01:28] <sarnold> the next debugging steps might be to use tshark or wireshark or tcpdump to see what's actually being sent
[01:31] <rose_> sarnold: yea  I forgot about curl or wget! gez
[01:31] <rose_> sarnold: btw what mime type do I set for pk3 files
[01:32] <rose_> application/x-pk3?
[01:33] <sarnold> rose_: sorry, no idea; what application would you use to read those?
[01:33] <rose_> urban terror
[01:36] <rose_> sarnold: I tried wget I have no curl and the speed is 50kb/s slow too
[01:36] <sarnold> hrm, not much docs around the web about the mime type to set. I think I'd use application/octet-stream unless you can find something specific..
[01:37] <rose_> sarnold: why? is not iis why downloading from other lan pc is slow I can donwload faster from internet
[01:37] <rose_> sarnold: ok
[01:38] <sarnold> rose_: you'll just have to figure out what's wrong one step at a time; you can try replacing components one at a time or maybe tcpdump, wireshark, tshark, etc., to watch the transfers and try to spot protocol problems, or excessive arps, or whatever
[01:40] <rose_> sarnold: unfortunately I don't know how I'll have to post it on like a forum
[01:41] <rose_> I can record with tcpdump but then I wouldn't know where to start
[01:41] <sarnold> unless you're familiar with what normal looks like it could be hard to spot abnormal..
[01:46] <rose_> sarnold: do u know how to connect to my windows shares?
[01:46] <rose_> I type smbclient IP 10.0.0.6 and it shows help info
[01:47] <sarnold> it's something like smbclient \\\\servername\\sharename
[01:47] <sarnold> if you need to use an IP because the servername isn't automatically resolved then I think -I will let you specify the IP
[01:54] <rose_> I did that I'll try again
[01:59] <rose_> sarnold: it doesn't work
[01:59] <rose_> sarnold: I get the screen with all the swtiches
[01:59] <rose_> I'm typing smbclient -I 10.0.0.6
[02:00] <rose_> I tried -p 445 too
[02:00] <sarnold> I think the server name may be mandatory
[02:00] <sarnold> either smbclient -I 10.0.0.6 -L \\\\servername    or smbclient -I 10.0.0.6 \\\\servername\\sharename
[02:01] <rose_> sarnold: however -L and hostname shows my shares
[02:01] <rose_> yea I'll keep digging
[02:07] <rose_> sarnold: ok I'm in
[02:08] <rose_> sarnold: I typed get file.mp4 and it gave me an error
[02:08] <rose_> it kinda hanged for like 30sec
[02:08] <sarnold> what error?
[02:08] <rose_> sarnold: I can download files from that share from other pcs
[02:08] <rose_> I'll know in a second
[02:10] <rose_> it says paralle read returned nt_status_io_timeout
[02:20] <rose_> sarnold: I got the same problem than a guy on superuser forum
[02:20] <rose_> nt timeouts and slow file sharing
[02:21] <sarnold> rose_: maybe that means there's something in the windows event viewer
[02:41] <rose_> sarnold: not much
[02:58] <rose_> sarnold: just some errors not related to file sharing
[02:58] <rose_> sarnold: asI can share with like my laptop and phone
[02:58] <sarnold> rose_: dang :/ time for me to run; good luck
[02:59] <rose_> cool
[10:03] <lordievader> Good afternoon
[14:54] <hosas> hello. how do I setup my ubuntu 16.04 to use my school proxy? the normal gui just not working for me. thanks
[15:06] <gunix> hosas: i don't think this question is for ubuntu server, but i will help you anyway
[15:06] <gunix> hosas: you have 2 options of setting up your proxy. via GUI (write proxy or network in search box) and you will have a window to configure manual proxy. however, this will work for chromium/firefox but it might not always work for bash
[15:07] <gunix> hosas: for bash, you should run the following commands: "export http_proxy=http://10.10.10.10:8080/" and "export https_proxy=https://10.10.10.10:8080"
[15:07] <gunix> hosas: of course, replace 10.10.10.10 with your ip
[15:07] <hosas> gunix: thanks
[15:08] <gunix> hosas: adding the exports within the terminal will fix your proxy for stuff like apt and wget within the terminal, but not for stuff from the Desktop environment. you need to add them with the network interface in order to get proxy to work with chromium or whatever browse you use
[15:13] <hosas> gunix: the proxy has a username and password- how do I add that to the bash-option?
[15:14] <gunix> hosas: i forgot
[15:15] <gunix> hosas: there were multiple ways, but i found a proxy within my company that works without auth, so i use that
[15:16] <hosas> ok
[15:16] <hosas> it's school proxy I just need to use to activate an academic license of a software
[15:17] <gunix> hosas: export http_proxy='username:password@http://proxy_hostname:proxy_port'
[15:17] <gunix> try that
[15:17] <hosas> gunix:  wait in the network interface I can't see proxy option there
[15:17] <hosas> ok
[15:18] <hosas> thanks
[15:18] <gunix> hosas: from GUI you should find this: https://i.stack.imgur.com/YkO3x.png
[15:18] <hosas> oh that
[15:19] <gunix> hosas: if this works for you, please confirm so you can make me happy i helped someone
[15:19] <hosas> I didn't work with the terminal
[15:19] <hosas> but thanks
[15:20] <gunix> hosas: if your password has some special characters you might need to escape them
[15:20] <hosas> gunix: It doesn't have to work for to know you've helped. you've helped already by just replying me.
[15:21] <hosas> gunix: of course my password has special characters
[15:22] <gunix> hosas: i thought so ... that will give you some work :D try to do some "wget google.com" and you should receive the error from the proxy. if the credentials fail, try escaping the characters
[15:22] <hosas> ok
[15:22] <hosas> let me give it a try
[16:09] <hosas> the proxy didn't work, but thanks man. I think it's because of the special character:-D
[16:09] <gunix> ...
[16:10] <gunix> hosas: did you try to google it?
[16:10] <hosas> I did
[16:10] <gunix> hosas: and still nothing?
[16:10] <hosas> someone suggest character encoding
[16:10] <gunix> hosas: give me your password so i can try it locally
[16:10] <gunix> cool joke, right?
[16:11] <hosas> hahahahaha
[16:11] <hosas> maybe I drink too much
[16:12] <hosas> gunix: would try it when I'm more sober. thanks again.
[16:13] <gunix> hosas: too much wine in paris and you have been tasked to clean all the bottles?
[16:13] <hosas> :)
[16:13] <hosas> it's weekend man
[16:14] <gunix> hosas: i don't judge
[21:19] <shrouder> how does nm-applet do I.C.S. I want to copy over the settings for doing I.C.S. without the gui or x running.
[21:20] <shrouder> something for #ubuntu-router
[21:33] <Poster> If you're referring to Internet Connection Sharing, you can setup a very basic NAT system by enabling IP forwarding and applying one iptables rule
[21:34] <Poster> in /etc/sysctl.conf, set net.ipv4.ip_forward=1 (it may be commented out), you can activate it with "sudo sysctl -w net.ipv4.ip_forward=1" the last thing is to apply NAT on your external interface, assuming it's eth0, it would be "sudo iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -o eth0 -j MASQUERADE"
[21:34] <Poster> there are much better ways to set all of this up, but that should get you started