[09:14] <brobostigon> morning boys and girls.
[10:34] <zed_> mh
[11:16] <diddledan> I wonder if anyone is working on something for the mac "touch bar" in linuxland..?
[11:20] <zmoylan-pi> do you think the touch bar is anything more than a gimmick that will be there in a few years?
[11:21] <diddledan> I don't really know what to think about it
[11:22] <zmoylan-pi> any other companies rushing to copy it?
[11:23] <diddledan> not that I've seen, but those other companies generally do touchable main displays
[11:42] <zmoylan-pi> the keyboard, a device professionals train to never look at... let's put a tiny display there away from the actual display...
[14:47] <Nokaji> can anyone help me get my printer back to working, it's a software issue caused by upgrading to software that was later 'rolled-back'. This was some months ago and I've never found a fix,  - here's the latest errors - https://justpaste.it/edit/17486113/231d3c4d
[14:51] <Nokaji> ubuntu 16.04
[17:21] <daftykins> Nokaji: did you go and ask in #ubuntu in the end?
[17:30] <Nokaji> daftykins: Yes, sorry, am in there now - thanks
[18:26] <daftykins> popped by this restored gun placement in the south-west of the island today: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rS_CAYA_fmA
[18:57] <Cacciatore> Hi, got me a bit of a situation here - After some mods and deletes I've lost access to ubuntu 16.04, unable to reboot. I'm considering downloading & installing over with the latest version
[18:58] <Cacciatore> My current concern is losing data, eg settings, passwords, files
[19:00] <penguin42> Cacciatore: Boot off a live cd, mount the disc and copy your critical data off
[19:01] <Cacciatore> penguin42, good thinking
[19:01] <Cacciatore> I guess I can only lose stuff in the install drive
[19:24] <Nokaji> okay, installed ubuntu on usb, ... will installing this corrupt my windows partion?
[19:25] <Nokaji> partition*
[19:25] <Nokaji> I guess I'll find out - nothing else for it
[19:25] <Nokaji> ciao for now...
[19:34] <daftykins> figured it'd be the same guy
[19:34] <daftykins> lmao
[20:17] <zmoylan-pi> these days i just blitz the windows partition, not worth the hassle of windows 'updating' and breaking a dual boot
[21:12] <diddledan> daftykins: is that not part of the UK's brexit plans to maintain borders?
[21:40] <Cacciatore> so, ... I've lost access to my ubuntu o/s partition. only option so far is 'install', which threatens to over-write everything there. That means unless I'm mistaken I shall lose everything such as emails and even email account settings. My next option is get another drive and at leisure try to recover the data - anyone any thoughts?
[21:42] <zmoylan-pi> boot off a live distro to copy the data off?
[21:44] <Cacciatore> zmoylan-pi, Yup, tried that, wasn't giving me access, maybe I screwed my password up
[21:45] <Cacciatore> tried logging in as the 'old' me also, it wouldn't have it
[21:46] <Cacciatore> not sure I'd even be able to retrieve the date if I add a drive but at least I have a chance, it's possible also that a frsh install won't wipe the old & 'extra' data/ settings but I'd have to push 'yes' to find out
[21:48] <Cacciatore> so get a new drive and take a crash course in advanced ubuntu for seasoned pro, or beginner to pro in 10001 not so easy lessonss
[21:50] <Cacciatore> is the  SAMSUNG 850 Evo 2.5" Internal SSD - 500 GB  still a good drive these days?
[22:03] <Cacciatore> damn, this is a right mess
[22:34] <Cacciatore> well, i guess the good news is I've been meaning to get one of those for a while AND I found me something worth finding whilst looking for a sata cable
[22:46] <Cacciatore> So, ... any tips on how to make this work, folks? - My first problem is gonna be transferring over my windows 10 partition without it balking at a 'changed system config' security check
[23:15] <enclude> Hi, which encryption software would you suggest for linux ? I used truecrypt on windows 8.1 and windows 10, also in the phase where it was not updated any more.
[23:16] <penguin42> enclude: During installation if you ask for full disk encryption or LUKS encryption that's built into Linux
[23:17] <enclude> penguin42: I meant for genereal encryption for data, e.g. from smartphone
[23:32] <enclude> 01:29:17 - enclude: when i download doubtful software  or software that i know that is malicious, then I usually shred it ( On Windows with eraser software). But sometimes I forget to shred it and only delete it via the dustbin. How can I LATER guarantee an APPROPRIATE SHREDDING of that Bytes within my Harddisk an RAM, where the malicious software has been stored? Is there any way on linux? Can I see where it was stored and over
[23:32] <enclude> 01:29:17 - enclude: with zeros and bits (SHREDDING). Or do I have to wait until new installed data does that work? Or does defragmenting like processes do the job? Sorry for my long text!