[00:00] <F4RR3LL> Jordan_U: what is the proper way if I may ask?
[00:01] <Jordan_U> F4RR3LL: To make your script executable, have the first line be "#!/bin/bash", and use ExecStart=/tmp/ip.bash
[00:01] <F4RR3LL> Jordan_U: ooh ok nice tips. Thanks. ^^
[00:01] <Jordan_U> F4RR3LL: Oh, and make sure that you have "export ALL_PROXY" on its own line in the script as well.
[00:02] <Jordan_U> (Without export it will *not* work)
[00:02] <F4RR3LL> Jordan_U: yeah I forgot the export xD
[00:02] <F4RR3LL> let me add it and try again
[00:04] <F4RR3LL> Jordan_U: I think its working now
[00:04] <F4RR3LL> service started script and script executed command to fetch ip and then to save it in a file
[00:05] <F4RR3LL> i checked the ip.log where it saved the ip and it fetched the public fake ip
[00:06] <F4RR3LL> Jordan_U: So all this trouble for almost 1 day with just an export all proxys lol
[00:06] <F4RR3LL> Jordan_U: thank u very much man. I've learned something
[00:06] <Jordan_U> F4RR3LL: You're welcome :)
[00:07] <F4RR3LL> Jordan_U: now let me fix my service script with the proper way =D
[00:08] <F4RR3LL> Jordan_U: now conky desktop app read the file with the correct value and displays it on my desktop refreshing each hour
[00:09] <Jordan_U> F4RR3LL: Yay! :)
[00:09] <oerheks> now log it
[00:09] <F4RR3LL> oerheks: log what? :P
[00:10] <oerheks> That was your original question, how to display and log?
[00:10] <F4RR3LL> script logs already the ip from tor node
[00:10] <F4RR3LL> and conky app reads it and displays it on desktip
[00:11] <F4RR3LL> ill make a screenshot on how it looks like
[00:11] <oerheks> oh right, i read the last 6 lines or so
[00:12] <F4RR3LL> what app do u use for irc?
[00:12] <F4RR3LL> I use irssi
[00:13] <oerheks> irssi/weechat for tty, i use hexchat mostly
[00:14] <tomtom45> hello
[00:14] <tomtom45> I am running 14.04 and get my rc.local to run on boot
[00:14] <tomtom45> any advice?
[00:15] <F4RR3LL> Jordan_U:
[00:15] <F4RR3LL> oerheks:
[00:15] <F4RR3LL> it looks like this
[00:15] <F4RR3LL> http://storage9.static.itmages.com/i/17/0805/h_1501892096_4851114_1b5b8d524c.png
[00:15] <tomreyn> tomtom45: your question / goal is unclear, please rephrase and provide mroe context.
[00:15] <tomtom45> ok
[00:16] <tomtom45> I want to run a few commands on bootup, I have them defined in my rc.local filr
[00:16] <tomtom45> file
[00:16] <tomtom45> when I reboot the commands do not run
[00:16] <Jordan_U> tomtom45: Please pastebin your /etc/rc.local .
[00:16] <oerheks> try sudo sysv-rc-conf and check out if rc.local is enabled
[00:17] <tomtom45> sudo: sysv-rc-conf: command not found
[00:17] <F4RR3LL> wow shutter app is a nice desktop img capture.
[00:17] <F4RR3LL> i love linux :D
[00:18] <tomtom45> https://pastebin.com/N1HXDyU0
[00:20] <Jordan_U> tomtom45: What is the output of "[ -f /home/ubuntu/sanjayInstaller ]; echo $?"   ?
[00:21] <tomtom45> nothing
[00:21] <tomtom45> that  file does not exist
[00:22] <Jordan_U> tomtom45: Copy and paste exactly the command I posted. It will output a number.
[00:22] <tomtom45> ; echo 130: No such file or directory
[00:23] <donu7> @Jordan_U, just as an update -- you were right on installing ubuntu. If you recall my issue from earlier, the ubiquity installer does not complain if, on a drive, you create a partition, set up luks on the partition, then set up LVM on that (luksOpen'd) partition for root and swap. However, ubiquity installer is crashing saying bootloader cannot be installed on /dev/sda1 which is a plain partition :/
[00:23] <Jordan_U> donu7: Do not try to install grub's boot sector to /dev/sda1, grub's boot sector should always go in the MBR, /dev/sda .
[00:24] <F4RR3LL> geeks vampires not sleeping :P
[00:24] <donu7> weird -- the docs i read up on mentioned specifically to install to sda1
[00:24] <donu7> interesting. i'll try it
[00:25] <F4RR3LL> grub always goes to sda :P
[00:25] <Jordan_U> tomtom45: You need to run the command on one line like I have it, and without the quotation marks.
[00:26] <tomtom45> 1
[00:26] <Jordan_U> donu7: That said, I expect that if you change nothing else grub-install will still fail.
[00:26] <Jordan_U> tomtom45: Great.
[00:27] <Jordan_U> tomtom45: How are you checking if the commands are running?
[00:27] <tomtom45> if they run they would register with my server
[00:28] <tomtom45> if I run the command on its own it runs
[00:28] <Jordan_U> tomtom45: Do you really intend for wget to download files into your root directory? (That is the default working directory for rc.local)
[00:29] <tomtom45> as long as the script works it doesnt matter much to me
[00:29] <tomtom45> these are honeypots
[00:29] <tomtom45> they are made to be hacked
[00:30] <Jordan_U> tomtom45: If you don't have an internet connection by the time rc.local runs then the first wget command could fail, which would prevent all of the other commands from running due to the use of && .
[00:31] <tomtom45> how can I run it after network is up?
[00:33] <donu7> i dont get it, i'm not seeing any errors in logs either why is install failing :/
[00:35] <Jordan_U> donu7: Are you still booted into the liveUSB session where you had the failed installation attempt?
[00:35] <donu7> yes
[00:36] <donu7> ubiquity is crashed and won't accept any input despite asking me to choose a different device to install the bootloader into
[00:38] <F4RR3LL> what i have learned from experience, it is better to make a bootable usb stick of a linux distro from a linux computer system based. Making a bootable usb on windows will always end up with grub install failure.
[00:38] <F4RR3LL> and its very easy to make a bootable usb on linux. Grub install success always :)
[00:38] <Jordan_U> donu7: Please pastebin /var/log/installer/debug .
[00:40] <donu7> http://paste.ubuntu.com/25243599
[00:41] <tomtom45> how can I run it after network is up?
[00:43] <F4RR3LL> Jordan_U: how long have u been using linux?
[00:44] <Jordan_U> donu7: Please pastebin /var/log/syslog .
[00:44] <Jordan_U> F4RR3LL: About 14 years I think.
[00:45] <F4RR3LL> Jordan_U: u must be pr0 or challenger in linux xD
[00:45] <F4RR3LL> Jordan_U: I guess u know beautifulsoup as well?
[00:46] <donu7> Jordan_U: paste.ubuntu.com/25243620
[00:48] <Jordan_U> F4RR3LL: You mentioning it now is the first I've heard of it.
[00:48] <EldonMcGuinness> Hi all, I'm trying to script a post installation script and wanted to know if there is a way to set a user as not to need a password on login via cli
[00:48] <EldonMcGuinness> I know I can use lightdm to autologin, but that is not quite the same effect
[00:48] <F4RR3LL> Jordan_U: seriously?
[00:48] <F4RR3LL> lol
[00:51] <Jordan_U> EldonMcGuinness: https://askubuntu.com/questions/281074/can-i-set-my-user-account-to-have-no-passwod . Note that I'm skeptical that doing so is actually a good idea.
[00:52] <oerheks> you could generate ssh keys
[00:52] <EldonMcGuinness> ok I found it `sudo usermod -a -G nopasswdlogin <USERNAME>`
[00:53] <EldonMcGuinness> In this case it is warranted as it is a student account that any user should be able to sitdown and login to
[00:53] <EldonMcGuinness> ;)
[00:55] <EldonMcGuinness> conversely removing the user from the group does away with the passwordless login
[00:56] <plut0> Trying to setup auto-login for Ubuntu 16.04, it worked until I upgraded. Getting this error in .xession-errors, what is wrong? https://pastebin.com/kzFCkjQy
[00:57] <probo> hi all
[00:58] <EldonMcGuinness> dist upgrade kill a lot of machines I was working on tody
[00:58] <donu7> welp i have no idea. i tried manually installing grub which highlighted a few issues but i'm not sure how to get ubiquity to install and don't know what i'm missing :/
[00:58] <EldonMcGuinness> 14.04 -> 16.04
[00:59] <probo> Can i enable the command windmill graphics card?
[00:59] <psychoticwarrior> grub-install </device>
[00:59] <psychoticwarrior> update-grub
[00:59] <psychoticwarrior> update-initramfs -u
[00:59] <psychoticwarrior> try that
[01:00] <donu7> before grub was installed, /boot had proper initramfs images and kernel images. after grub-install finally succeeded, it deleted the initramfs and kernel images
[01:00] <donu7> i'll try it tho in a minute and see what happens
[01:01] <probo> after sleep asus windmill graphics card dont work
[01:01] <probo> i always must then restart
[01:03] <Jordan_U> EldonMcGuinness: How did you upgrade?
[01:04] <EldonMcGuinness> well the first few I did do-dist-upgrade, the remainder I did using the update app
[01:04] <Jordan_U> EldonMcGuinness: Do you use any ppas or other third pary repositories?
[01:04] <EldonMcGuinness> It was a crap shoot really, lots of them threw random errors on login, others were missing packages that would not work.
[01:04] <EldonMcGuinness> Nope, just plain old Ubuntu
[01:04] <EldonMcGuinness> Base install with no extra ppas
[01:05] <EldonMcGuinness> Not a big deal as it gives me a reason to replace ubuntu with ubuntu mate
[01:07] <donu7> yeah the install is missing kernel images
[01:07] <donu7> initramfs is updated just fine but there's no images in /boot :/
[01:07] <psychoticwarrior> don7 whats it missing?\
[01:07] <psychoticwarrior> try update-grub
[01:07] <donu7> to clarify, i ran the ubiquity installer and it crashed trying to install bootloader to either /dev/sda and /dev/sda1 however it left a couple kernel images and initrd images in there
[01:08] <Jordan_U> donu7: You are looking in /target/boot/, and /target/boot/ is still mounted (since it's a separate partition)?
[01:08] <donu7> I manually checked by mounting root to /mnt and boot to /mnt/boot
[01:08] <donu7> to get grub-install, grub-update and updateinitramfs working i also mounted using `mount -o bind` for /{proc,sys,run,dev}
[01:09] <oldtimebanjo> hey anyone a member of the ubuntu wiki team, there's a typo on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat under the section "Console baseD"
[01:09] <donu7> there were errors about /etc/default/grub not having enable_cryptodisk=enabled=1 set which i fixed and grub-install worked but it wiped out the kernel/initrd images in /boot
[01:09] <donu7> (which in this case is /mnt/boot but im implying being chrooted in /mnt)
[01:11] <Jordan_U> donu7: Sounds like /boot/ wasn't mounted when grub-install was run. If you don't mount /boot/ I expect you'll find that /mnt/boot/ contains your "missing" kernel and initramfs images.
[01:12] <donu7> i did mount boot, i made that mistake at first and grub-install was throwing errors. that's when i realized i didn't have /boot mounted into the chroot environment
[01:12] <psychoticwarrior> mount <device>
[01:12] <Jordan_U> donu7: You did set the mountpoint for your /boot/ partition to"/boot/" in the installer, right?
[01:12] <donu7> correct
[01:13] <donu7> altho, i set mountpoint for /dev/sda1 to /boot and then tried specifying in ubiquity to install the bootloader to /dev/sda1 (which crashed). I then tried the same thing but specifying install bootloader to /dev/sda which also crashed
[01:13] <psychoticwarrior> what i do is grub-install /dev/sda
[01:13] <psychoticwarrior> it works then
[01:14] <psychoticwarrior> do you get any errors after running grub-install
[01:15] <donu7> no, it completes without errors but then i have nothing in /boot/ besides grub
[01:15] <donu7> no kernel image and no initramfs image
[01:16] <psychoticwarrior> huh
[01:16] <donu7> I'm going to give up on this and try again next week. I need to get home, wife is pissed i'm an hour and a half late
[01:16] <psychoticwarrior> thats weird
[01:16] <Bashing-om> oldtimebanjo: "that Irssi" s/b than ?
[01:16] <psychoticwarrior> i have a list of kernel images in mine
[01:16] <donu7> but i really appreciate your help psychoticwarrior & Jordan_U you've really helped me find my footing here <3
[01:16] <psychoticwarrior> not sure whats wrong with yours
[01:16] <donu7> ditto but that's going to be a discussion for another day
[01:16] <psychoticwarrior> for sure
[01:16] <Jordan_U> donu7: Is there a kernel and initramfs in /mnt/boot/ when you don't have the separate /boot/ partition mounted there?
[01:16] <oldtimebanjo> Bashing-om: shouldnt it be "than Irssi"?
[01:17] <Bashing-om> oldtimebanjo: Yep, I agree . see what I can do .
[01:17] <Jordan_U> donu7: If so, that would confirm that the failure was due to it not being mounted when the installer was running (for some reason).
[01:17] <oldtimebanjo> Bashing-om: oh i read what you said wrong, yeah you are right
[01:17] <donu7> @Jordan_U, there was yes which i found weird. I don't recall how its contents compared to what was in the correct "boot" partition.
[01:17] <donu7> Just to clarify
[01:18] <psychoticwarrior> why dont you copy whats in /mnt to /boot
[01:18] <donu7> i have root and boot not mounted to any directory when running ubiquity. I just unlock the luks drive (that contains root) and boot is a plain partition
[01:18] <psychoticwarrior> if its kernel images
[01:18] <donu7> so, when running ubiquity, are the /boot (/dev/sda1) and root (/dev/mapper/lvm-root) supposed to be mounted somewhere?
[01:18] <donu7> psychoticwarrior, that's the first thing i'm going to try next week
[01:19] <psychoticwarrior> ok sounds good
[01:19] <Jordan_U> donu7: Yes, lvm-root to /target/ and sda1 to /target/boot/.
[01:20] <donu7> holy shit
[01:20] <donu7> ok i'll try that next week as well
[01:20] <psychoticwarrior> ok why dont you try it now
[01:20] <donu7> Thank you again fellas. I may make ubuntu my main nix os -- i've never had this much help and community when talking in the fedora & centos irc channels
[01:20] <psychoticwarrior> do you need time to that
[01:21] <donu7> cuz I'm 90 minutes late getting home to a wife & 2 infants. I'm already going to have a bad time :) might as well not make it worse
[01:21] <psychoticwarrior> yea for sure
[01:21] <psychoticwarrior> i understand
[01:21] <donu7> thanks again! <3
[01:21] <psychoticwarrior> no problem
[01:33] <Bashing-om> oldtimebanjo: Done, thanks for the advisement.
[01:52] <kusfedora> say something
[01:54] <bazhang> kusfedora, here is support only
[01:54] <bazhang> kusfedora, for chit chat, #ubuntu-offtopic
[01:55] <F4RR3LL> clear
[01:55] <F4RR3LL> oups
[01:55] <F4RR3LL> ahahaha
[01:55] <F4RR3LL> sorry
[02:23] <elisa871> so I have something like http://imgur.com/a/dtIXl and I need to remove the left hand from all these images by masking it (basically I don't want to change the image size or resolution). What is the best way to do this? I am on Windows but I can use bash on ubuntu on Windows (10).
[02:25] <Bashing-om> !ubuwin | elisa871
[02:27] <psychoticwarrior> Can ubuntu run windows programs?
[02:27] <Ben64> with wine, yes
[02:27] <psychoticwarrior> sweet
[02:27] <Ben64> not everything works, check the appdb for details
[02:28] <psychoticwarrior> ok
[02:29] <psychoticwarrior> just installed wine
[02:31] <reisio> psychoticwarrior: don't brag :p
[02:32] <psychoticwarrior> haha
[02:34] <psychoticwarrior> apt install wine :_
[02:34] <psychoticwarrior> :)
[02:34] <oldtimebanjo> ubuntu budgie is nice man
[02:35] <oldtimebanjo> might stick with this for a while
[02:36] <reisio> what'd budgie?
[02:37] <reisio> oh, Ubuntu with a version of GNOME preconfigured by some other distro? Gotcha
[02:37] <reisio> sounds very Ubuntu-y
[02:38] <oldtimebanjo> https://ubuntubudgie.org/
[02:38] <tgm4883> reisio: I don't believe it has anything to do with Gnome
[02:38] <tgm4883> IIRC, it's based on Qt and an official flavor
[02:39] <swift110-phone> hey
[02:41] <reisio> Qt, ew :p
[02:41] <oldtimebanjo> it's great
[02:56] <psychoticwarrior> hows your bungie
[03:04] <EldonMcGuinness> I wish automated installs were easier with ubuntu
[03:06] <Bashing-om> EldonMcGuinness: ? Are you making a problem where none exist ?
[03:09] <psychoticwarrior> fat girls rock!
[03:11] <Krennic> a/buffer 20
[03:13] <leftyfb> psychoticwarrior: trolling is offtopic
[03:14] <devslash> I need help diagnosing a video card related issue. My video cards' fan will spin up kind loudly every minute or so for about 5-10 seconds. It also blows a stronger than usual blast of air from the GPUs' fans. The card is an EVGA GTX750 TI. I don't have this issue in Windows so I'm pretty sure its a driver issue. I just replaced the thermal paste on it with new paste and cleaned it with compressed air as well. I want to figure out which video
[03:14] <devslash> driver I'm using (I think its noveau or something like that) and see if theirs a newer version (apt-get is up to date) or different driver
[03:14] <leftyfb> devslash: open up the drivers app in ubuntu
[03:15] <devslash> huh
[03:15] <devslash> one sec
[03:17] <Bashing-om> devslash: Paste ' sudo lshw -C display ' . see what the driver is .
[03:18] <devslash> driver is nouveau
[03:19] <Bashing-om> devslash: Try: ' sudo apt update ; sudo apt upgrade ; sudo ubuntu-drivers autoinstall ' to install the nvidia proprietary driver .
[03:20] <leftyfb> or he could have just clicked the button in the drivers app
[03:20] <devslash> when i installed the latest nvidia drivers, every time id log in itd take me back to the login screen even though i was using the right password
[03:21] <devslash> I hope this doesnt mess up my login like it did the last time ...
[03:22] <devslash> oh i cant use ubuntu-drivers
[03:22] <Bashing-om> devslash: Prior attempts ? conflicts now ? show us in a pastie ' dpkg -l | grep nvidia ' /
[03:22] <devslash> it wants to disable uefi secure boot
[03:23] <devslash> I don't want to disable uefi
[03:23] <devslash> i have a windows dual boot
[03:23] <devslash> using grub
[03:24] <Bashing-om> devslash: Yeah , that slipped my mind . secure boot must be disabled in EFI systems !
[03:24] <devslash> nah man forget that
[03:24] <Bashing-om> devslash: K, you may turn secure boot back on after the proprietary driver installs .
[03:25] <devslash> will that require a reboot
[03:25] <devslash> after turning it off
[03:25] <reisio> most things to do with using Windows require a reboot :p
[03:26] <devslash> meh
[03:26] <Bashing-om> devslash: And ^ you wull reboot after installing the driver .
[03:26] <devslash> right
[03:27] <devslash> oh great so i rebooted and now ive got that same issue where the resolution is low and it crashes back to the login screen
[03:28] <devslash> i know how to remove it
[03:28] <devslash> but id rather fix it if you can help me
[03:29] <reisio> "requires" :p
[03:29] <Bashing-om> devslash: ctl+alt+F1 -> comsole interface . log in here . what shows un a pastebin ' dpkg -l | grep nvidia ' . A driver conflict ?
[03:30] <devslash> im in a console
[03:30] <devslash> it lists 6 nvidia drivers
[03:31] <sary> Anyone believe i was rude or had unnecessary comments here: https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2367866
[03:31] <Bashing-om> devslash: ' dpkg -l | grep nvidia | nc termbin.com 9999 ' .
[03:31] <devslash> nvidia-304,nvidia-375,nvidia-opencl-icd-304, nvidia-opencl-375,nvidia-settings
[03:32] <Bashing-om> sary: I be look'n at it .
[03:32] <devslash> https://termbin.com/sopb
[03:36] <devslash> couldi t be because i have 304 and 375 ?
[03:39] <reisio> sary: why, they penalize you? Why submit yourself to the arbitrary fake justice of strangers
[03:39] <Bashing-om> devslash: Either way I am not too happy with the differing versions of the packages installed . What release is this ? And show us the card ' lspci -nnk | grep -iA3 vga ' . We clean up and try again .
[03:39] <devslash> hmm found this in xorg log: failed to initialize glx extension (compatible nvidia X driver not found)
[03:40] <devslash> latest 17.04
[03:40] <sary> Bashing-om: Feel free to tell me in Query/PM , if you don't feel like doin' so here.
[03:40] <sary> reisio: I am not , but a forum staff thinks so..
[03:41] <devslash> the card is a GEFORCE EVGA GTX 750 TI
[03:42] <reisio> sary: well there's a simple solution to that, but you won't like it
[03:42] <reisio> sary: tell them you're sorry and that they are awesome; that's all any fool with a little authority and no brain ever wants to hear
[03:42] <reisio> sary: alternatively, ignore them, and if they actually censor you, make a new acccount
[03:43] <Jordan_U> sary: Please take non support discussion to #ubuntu-offtopic.
[03:43] <devslash> https://termbin.com/d54u
[03:43] <reisio> sary: for example you could apologize to Jordan_U and tell him he's cool
[03:43]  * reisio rolls eyes
[03:43] <devslash> Bashing-om https://termbin.com/d54u
[03:43] <reisio> devslash: that the whole URI?
[03:43] <Bashing-om> devslash: nvidia recommends the 384 version driver . we can do that .
[03:43] <devslash> ok
[03:44] <devslash> so purge nvidia-* ?
[03:44] <Bashing-om> devslash: See: http://www.nvidia.com/download/driverResults.aspx/120917/en-us .
[03:46] <Bashing-om> devslash: Yewah . ' sudo apt purge nvidia* ; sudo ubuntu-drivers autoinstall ' where I expect that 384 will be chissen, reboot to see the effect .
[03:48] <ShekharReddy> Can a user decide the file location to install a software ?
[03:49] <reisio> yes, but you shouldn't want to, most of the time
[03:49] <reisio> why?
[03:50] <devslash> isnt there a conflict
[03:50] <devslash> if i have multiple version of the nvidia driver
[03:51] <reisio> devslash: well, there's certainly no need to have more than one
[03:52] <Bashing-om> devslash: Yes there would be conflicts with more than one driver installed . in that 1st field is "rc" . where it is (R)emoved but (C)onfig files remain .
[03:53] <Bashing-om> devslash: In terminal ' apt list nvidia-settings nvidia-prime ' to see the versions of these that "should" have installed .
[03:53] <reisio> prime? You on some terrible laptop? :D
[03:54] <devslash> last line says now 367.35
[03:54] <devslash> but maybe i should trry 384 first
[03:55] <Bashing-om> reisio: I am not too sure of what is going on with nvidia installs - as I only have the one nvidis card and still get " ii  nvidia-prime  0.8.2 " .
[03:56] <Bashing-om> !info nvidia-384 zesty
[03:57] <reisio> is it a laptop or not?
[03:58] <Bashing-om> devslash: Ouch . ^^ thought 384 was avail in 17.04 . 367 should work ! . else there is our trusted PPA that does have the 384 version driver .
[03:58] <devslash> ive already got it from nvidia. booting into single user mode first
[03:58] <Bashing-om> devslash: NO ! n
[03:58] <devslash> what
[03:59] <Bashing-om> devslash: nvidia says " Note that many Linux distributions provide their own packages of the NVIDIA Linux Graphics Driver in the distribution's native package management format. This may interact better with the rest of your distribution's framework, and you may want to use this rather than NVIDIA's official package."
[04:00] <devslash> ok ill use that one
[04:01] <Bashing-om> devslash: try 367 . if not happy then we do out PPA . ok ?
[04:01] <devslash> ok
[04:01] <devslash> installing it
[04:01] <devslash> is it bad to kill xorg to restart x vs rebooting
[04:03] <devslash> ok its installed now i just need to wait and see if the fans spin up again
[04:03] <devslash> thanks
[04:05] <reisio> anyway, if it's not a laptop, try nouveau instead
[04:05] <reisio> and if it is a laptop, try nouveau instead
[04:06] <Bashing-om> devslash: /var/log/Xorg.0.log looks good now ?
[04:10] <psychoticwarrior> whats up!
[04:30] <psychoticwarrior> sup
[04:35] <EldonMcGuinness> Bashing-om, I don't think I am. It seems the only way to do it is to roll your own iso
[04:36] <EldonMcGuinness> Gave it a couple tries last night and each time I just ended up at a BusyBox prompt when booting the iso.
[04:37] <Bashing-om> EldonMcGuinness: Sorry, lost the context here . I am a strong advocate, however, of " roll your own " . Speaking with some experience here :)
[04:38] <jeromelanteri> i installed ubuntu and when i do systemctl enable lightdm.service, he answer that it does the job (exectuting /lib/systemd/systemd-sysv-install) but in fact, there is no lightdm.service inside /etc/systemd/system (recursively) and then it failed without saif nothing to just install a service for lightdm. How to resolve this with ubuntu ?
[04:39] <jeromelanteri> do i need to do myself the job ubuntu doesn't know to do ?
[04:39] <EldonMcGuinness> Bashing-om, trying to do unattended installs of ubuntu desktop
[04:39] <jeromelanteri> copy/paste /lib/systemd/system/lightdm.service inside /etc/systemd/system/multi-users...
[04:40] <Bashing-om> jeromelanteri: What results ' systemctl set-default graphical ' ?
[04:41] <Bashing-om> EldonMcGuinness: You have ventured where I have not gone . Do not know much about "unattended installs" .
[04:44] <jeromelanteri> Bashing-om,  it create a symlink (that he said) from /etc/systemd/system/default.target to graphical.target
[04:44] <jeromelanteri> Bashing-om,  it create a symlink (that he said) from /etc/systemd/system/default.target to graphical.target
[04:45] <EldonMcGuinness> I've done them on windows before, but this is my first go at a Linux one.
[04:46] <EldonMcGuinness> As it is I'm just installing from a USB stick the running my post scripts from another one.
[04:46] <EldonMcGuinness> Would much rather integrate the code into the install and automate it, but can't seem to get it to work.
[04:46] <jeromelanteri> Bashing-om, ok but i not understand... why things so complicate ? why not just do systemctl enable lightdm.service doesn't works ?
[04:47] <jeromelanteri> it has to works on linux
[04:47] <jeromelanteri> also... start service lxdm failed without any error (nevermind...)
[04:53] <Bashing-om> jeromelanteri: One word - systemd - :) We are all making that transition .
[04:54] <Waddup> would this work? https://paste.ubuntu.com/25239903/
[04:56] <Bashing-om> jeromelanteri: Might want to see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SystemdForUpstartUsers to jelp in that transition.
[04:58] <capella> ew ouch
[05:12] <afreedma> Installed ubuntu server 17.04 onto VirtualBox as per install docs. systemd keeps complaining that /home and swap mounts are timing out, dumps me into emergency mode. Tried manually mounting /home and recreating/attaching swap but seems to make no difference. Any guidance?
[05:14] <jeromelanteri> Bashing-om, yeah..; thank you. I come from archlinux and installed ubuntu on odroid-xu4 arm... but on archlinux, just use systemd works easy... nothing is broken by the distribution.
[05:15] <jeromelanteri> i do a sylink from /lib/systemd/system/lightdm.service to /etc/systemd/system/   easier.
[05:16] <Jordan_U> afreedma: DoOCe the UUIDs for home and swap match those in /etc/fstab ? (You can list the UUIDs of all filesystems / volumes with "sudo blkid".)
[05:17] <afreedma> They do - original fstab was using ids but switched to UUID in hopes of fixing this.
[05:17] <afreedma> Neither works
[05:19] <Bashing-om> jeromelanteri: Sorry in that I have no experience with andrioid devices .
[05:21] <jeromelanteri> Bashing-om, it is not related to "android device" and it is not an android device. 1/ it arm device (android is not a device) 2/ it is related to ubunto way of doing things easy more complicate for nothing more.
[05:22] <cmanns> How will ubuntu run on a usb 3.0/3.1 stick?
[05:23] <jeromelanteri> so the "ubuntu" solution normaly should to do: dpkg-reconfigure lightdm, then vim /etc/X11/default-display-manager (for exec /usr/sbin/lightdm), then systemctl set-default graphical.target. (OMG !!!)
[05:23] <jeromelanteri> bye
[06:30] <birkoff> is kubuntu considered unofficial?
[06:32] <Bashing-om> birkoff: No, kubuntu is an official release .
[06:32] <Bashing-om> !supported
[06:40] <ghettochild_2600> can you do chown and chgrp as a 1 liner without separating the commands?
[06:41] <ddellav> ghettochild_2600 yes
[06:41] <ddellav> chown user.group
[06:41] <ghettochild_2600> . or :
[06:41] <ddellav> either one
[06:42] <ddellav> in linux
[06:42] <ddellav> bsd accepts : only
[06:42] <ghettochild_2600> ty
[06:42] <ddellav> yw
[06:47] <ghettochild_2600> That made batch changing permissions so much simpler.
[06:56] <scenick> Hello. I wonder. The computer freezes occasionally. How do I report the bug and find out what to do.  (where the logs are before the hard restart is needed). Thanks in advance
[07:06] <ghettochild_2600> You can access the kernel logs using: tail -f /var/log/kern.log
[07:07] <ghettochild_2600> Might find some info in there about what's going on.
[07:08] <scenick> ghetto> Thanks for answer. This is the content in given point of time before crash and just after restar ... https://pastebin.com/MCktVVHr does it tell You anything? Or is there any place where to report it?
[07:13] <ghettochild_2600> I'll take a look at it here in a few, working on moving a site between servers atm
[07:33] <scenick> ghetto> thanks in advance
[07:40] <ghettochild_2600> No problem. Sorry it can't be sooner though. I'm currently at work and have other priorities :/
[07:45] <ducasse> scenick: have you ruled out hardware problems, for example?
[08:01] <minimec> scenick: First I would make the log 'persistent' so it survives a reboot. Change '#Storage=auto' to 'Storage=persistent' in '/etc/systemd/journald.conf' and reboot. From then on you can 'journalctl -b1' to get the complete logs of the last 'freezed' boot.
[08:18] <scenick> mimimec> thanks, done.
[08:29] <scenick> ducasse> no, not really. I'm currently on the low end Aspire ES1-132 (https://www.acer.com/ac/en/GB/content/model/NX.GGLEK.001). It has been shipped with W10. After some obstructions I installed the Ubuntu 17.04. It has no HDD foreexample. Only eMMC.
[08:55] <MJCD> hey is there a way to get vnc to work with 3d content
[08:55] <MJCD> or a vnc type thing
[08:55] <oerheks> found the google-chrome key issue, that appeared yesterday:
[08:55] <MJCD> from windows host -> ubuntu client
[08:55] <oerheks> A040830F7FaC5991 2007-03-08 [08:56] <oerheks> MJCD, 3d? no
[08:56] <MJCD> I dont even care if its slow heh
[08:56] <oerheks> that would generate such huge datastream...
[08:56] <MJCD> well
[08:56] <MJCD> my router can do 6gb/s per channel
[08:56] <MJCD> and they're both ethernet of a few m
[08:56] <MJCD> so I dont think itd be that crazy
[08:58] <MJCD> remote desktop can apparently do it
[08:58] <MJCD> but I dont think you get good support in linux :(
[08:58] <oerheks> 'remote desktop can do it' on windows  ??  not really
[08:59] <MJCD> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RemoteFX
[08:59] <MJCD> 'apparently'
[08:59] <MJCD> I haven't tried it heh
[08:59] <MJCD> as I say im not expecting gold, im happy with a turd
[08:59] <shn> does'nt VNC just throw the screen contents over the network? What do you mean by 3D?
[08:59] <BluesKaj> 'Morning all
[08:59] <talkinghead> Hello, I'm having an issue trying to install ghetto skype. When ever I run "npm install" I get a segfault
[08:59] <MJCD> shn, yeah I guess maybe a way to optimize vnc for it would be ok
[09:00] <talkinghead> http://sprunge.us/XgSe
[09:00] <MJCD> like set it to ultra intensive mode haha
[09:00] <MJCD> or somesuch idk
[09:00] <talkinghead> I'm on ubuntu 17.04. nodejs v 6.0.0, NPM 3.8.6
[09:07] <oerheks> talkinghead, maybe a bad download, why don't you get the deb from their site?
[09:07] <oerheks> https://github.com/stanfieldr/ghetto-skype/releases
[09:07] <talkinghead> oerheks Because it didn't work
[09:07] <talkinghead> But I'll try that again
[09:08] <sary> BluesKaj: top of the morning to you.
[09:08] <oerheks> then contact the maintainer?
[09:08] <talkinghead> I had this all installed
[09:08] <talkinghead> And then fucked my ubuntu tonight
[09:08] <BluesKaj> Hi sary
[09:08] <talkinghead> and now that it's reinstalled, this won't install
[09:09] <bazhang> talkinghead, no cursing here
[09:09] <MJCD> for anyone interested
[09:09] <MJCD> this looks to be 'the go' for nvidia
[09:09] <MJCD> https://github.com/moonlight-stream/moonlight-chrome
[09:09] <MJCD> cheers anyway
[09:09] <MJCD> xoxo
[09:09] <talkinghead> Sorry, bazhang
[09:10] <talkinghead> Wew, the deb worked this timew
[09:10] <talkinghead> THanks
[09:10] <talkinghead> Maybe it just messed up deps before or something
[09:11] <oerheks> have fun!
[09:11] <talkinghead> Thanks
[09:11] <oerheks> yeah, maybe, but that could be fixed with apt install -f
[09:11] <talkinghead> I mean, I had to install nodejs from source
[09:11] <talkinghead> Because the right version was not available
[09:12] <talkinghead> Have a good night
[09:21] <MJCD> What's the lowest system requirements ubuntu variant would you say?
[09:22] <MJCD> ubuntu MATE?
[09:22] <oerheks> lubuntu/lxde
[09:22] <bazhang> MJCD, either lubuntu, or a mini cd with built up
[09:22] <MJCD> oh nice, lubuntu it is xD ty
[09:22] <oerheks> mate + xubuntu + connamon - middle
[09:22] <bazhang> !mini | MJCD
[09:23] <oerheks> cinnamon, typo
[09:23] <MJCD> is there anything in particular I should do to optimize it to boot from usb?
[09:23] <MJCD> there is a hard drive in the machine but the usb is faster haha
[09:24] <oerheks> Live usb? not really
[09:25] <MJCD> alrighty, thanks for the advice :)
[09:25] <MJCD> back if I have any problems haha
[10:34] <vkolchev> Hi all. Are there any devs from Ubuntu here? Please don't take my question as offence or inappropriate. I was recently looking to move to Ubuntu from another distro as seems more ready to use out of the box on my desktops. However, reading latest news about Shuttleworth not willing to pay attention to desktop anymore, I have concerns about Ubuntu future as a desktop. Does anyone have info on whether Ubuntu won't be actively developed as desktop in
[10:34] <vkolchev> future and will concentrate on cloud and server niches? Will be grateful for reply.
[10:36] <oerheks> Our own creation Unity will no longer be the default desktop, it will be available, on community support basis
[10:36] <BluesKaj> !DE
[10:37] <oerheks> still, there are plenty desktops supported!
[10:37] <BluesKaj> hehe oops
[10:37] <oerheks> only mir/unity drops, gnome3 will be standard from 17.10 and up
[10:37] <oerheks> that would be !flavors iirc
[10:38] <oerheks> !flavors
[10:38] <vkolchev> Ah, okay, just was worried that desktop version won't get much attention anymore
[10:39] <oerheks> There has been some gossip indeed, but my main concern is that 32 bit will be supported after 18.04 ..
[10:40] <vkolchev> oerheks, well, I've heard that some distros may drop 32 bit soon and will work only on multilib libs
[10:41] <BluesKaj> vkolchev,  there are plenty of desktops from which to choose,  lxde. xfce, kde/plasma, gnome
[10:43] <vkolchev> BluesKaj, yes, as in any other distro. I just asked about desktop development and if user-friendliness will continue. You know, CentOS/RedHat have gnome too, but they are not what regular user wants on home desktop
[10:43] <vkolchev> Because they are oriented on server mainly
[10:44] <BluesKaj> centos is server oriented, yes
[10:48] <vkolchev> Don't know how to ask correctly) There are some ubuntu-related desktop tasties, such as proprietary driver easy installation (not that I am not able to install it manually or from repos) and some other things on which ubuntu desktop team worked. Things that made ubuntu more user-friendly and different
[10:48] <vkolchev> Concern is that now there will just be an ability to install generic desktop without any special goodies. Is it so?
[10:49] <dconroy> maybe http://lubuntu.net/ is for you
[10:50] <vkolchev> dconroy, why lubuntu?) not a fan of lxde, however lxqt seems better
[10:50] <dconroy> reading your post it seemed like you were looking for a stripped down ubuntu
[10:51] <dconroy> i meant, http://lubuntu.me/
[10:52] <vkolchev> dconroy, no, not really, however, I am okay with doing minimal install and then install what I need from CLI. the idea of my post was to learn where ubuntu tends to go - develop server and desktop equally or more server, like CentOS, however, with desktop capabilities
[10:53] <dconroy> i guess it depends on primary use of the machine
[10:53] <dconroy> i feel like when i install desktop, i spend an hour or two making it more into a server
[10:53] <dconroy> and when i install server, i spend an hour or two making it more desktop friendly
[10:54] <vkolchev> dconroy, probably it's true :)
[11:08] <funyun> hi. i have an odroid c2 (like raspberry pi). when i turn it on, it works fine for about 1-2 minutes, then it completely wipes out the wireless signal of my router. no wireless devices can connect to the router. the odroid is connected via ethernet so the internet still works on the odroid. but it takes about 30 minutes for the wireless signal to return and my network is back to normal. does anyone have any
[11:08] <funyun> clue what can be causing this or how to fix it?
[11:20] <Waddup> hello, I'd just like to ask would this work? https://paste.ubuntu.com/25239903/ im running on ubuntu 14.04 lts server just trying to create user and guest for a single public shared folder
[11:24] <|Night|> Hey, I am struggelign to delete/edit chmod/chown a folder, with this error  chown: cannot access 'U-HD1080p6': Transport endpoint is not connected
[11:24] <|Night|> rm -rf  U-HD1080p6
[11:24] <|Night|> rm: cannot remove 'U-HD1080p6': Is a directory
[11:24] <|Night|> meh stupid irc, that should have been onliner
[11:26] <|Night|> meh currupted folder so had to remount virtual dir.
[11:34] <renatoneto> hi
[11:35] <renatoneto> i have some questions about how i can boot ubuntu diskless from an iscsi target
[11:37] <renatoneto> so i would like to make a golden ubuntu image and boot it with ipxe as different delta's/snapshots/CoW images
[11:38] <renatoneto> i currently have 1 iscsi target; i've booted a VM from an ubuntu live cd and installed ubuntu server to the iscsi target
[11:39] <renatoneto> then i'm making a CoW image of the original disk and assign this CoW image to a new iscsi target
[11:40] <renatoneto> this works fine, no problem at all and GRUB starts
[11:40] <renatoneto> but initramfs keeps refferring to the old iscsi target as root disk instead of the new one
[11:41] <renatoneto> referring*
[11:42] <renatoneto> any1 knows if it is possible what i want to do and if so, what i'm doing wrong
[12:00] <sary> Waddup: you may want to try the configuration setyp in https://www.howtoforge.com/samba-server-ubuntu-14.04-lts
[12:00] <sary> it's also in https://help.ubuntu.com/community/How%20to%20Create%20a%20Network%20Share%20Via%20Samba%20Via%20CLI%20%28Command-line%20interface/Linux%20Terminal%29%20-%20Uncomplicated%2C%20Simple%20and%20Brief%20Way%21
[12:01] <Major_Wedgie> sup?
[12:02] <Major_Wedgie> sudoer?
[12:02] <Waddup> sary: his stuffs can only be used for user accounts. I need it to be accesible to accounts and guests
[12:10] <pizzaBurger> Hello everyone. VirtualBox issue: want to run Windows 7 from Ubuntu 17.04 VirtualBox from a USB (ISO file inside). After setting up the virtual machine, I go to settings -> storage. How do I specify that the windows file is in a USB? Thanks!
[12:14] <tomreyn> Waddup: i really think you should try setting up two seperate shares, one for guest and one for authenticated users. once that works, you can still look into combining them (if that can work at all).
[12:15] <tomreyn> think about all the time you've spent on theoretically tackling this issue, you should defintiely get started with testing things in siomple configurations, then increasing complexity until it breaks.
[12:15] <Waddup> tomreyn: i did tried setting up 2 separate shares but the thing is, the reason why i wanna create a user is because mac is always asking for login account whenever connecting to that certain shared folder
[12:16] <tomreyn> Waddup: the point that the mac needs to authenticate as a user does not seem to contradict the concept of having two shares
[12:17] <Waddup> tomreyn: you mean two shares with one path?
[12:17] <tomreyn> yes, that's what i suggested last but one time you asked
[12:17] <Waddup> oh i did not get it at the time lol sorry
[12:17] <Waddup> i did not know it was possible
[12:18] <Waddup> wait let me set it up and show it to you
[12:18] <tomreyn> i'm not entirely sure whether it's possible, but i would think it is.
[12:18] <sary> tomreyn: so you're suggesting something like this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Samba/SambaServerGuide#File_Sharing_.28Advanced.29
[12:19] <tomreyn> yes i think so, sary
[12:20] <Major_Wedgie> Night everybody, stay cool and look forward to Gnome on Wayland.
[12:31] <specimen_> Hi is anyone here using the Franz multi protocol chat application?
[12:32] <specimen_> I have installed it under 16.04 but it eats cpu ~12% constantly even with no active accounts
[12:33] <specimen_> wondering how to figure out where those cycles are being wasted
[12:41] <tomreyn> probably mining some cryptocurrency ;)
[12:42] <tomreyn> or reversing your passwords
[12:50] <habbasi> Hello everyone. I wanted to install PRCE for PHP 7.0, is it already included now? I can't seem to find any relevant packages in apt.
[12:50] <habbasi> Or do I install it with PEAR?
[12:51] <habbasi> (Ubuntu server 16.04)
[12:51] <Waddup> tomreyn: did i do it right? https://paste.ubuntu.com/25247036/
[12:54] <tomreyn> Waddup: no, oyu reused the same name for those two shares, that cannot work
[12:55] <Waddup> tomreyn should i use Projects2 on the 2nd share?
[12:56] <tomreyn> Waddup: i don't care wha you call it, just name them differently
[12:58] <tomreyn> Waddup: As sary had pointed out, there's a ready-made example that was most likely tested at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Samba/SambaServerGuide#File_Sharing_.28Advanced.29 - why don't you just copy that and adjust 'path' and optionally the names of those shares?
[12:58] <aatish910> I donot have mysql server installed but top shows two mysqld processes with around 7% memory use and doing "file /proc/<pid of that process>/exe gives  broken symbolic link to /usr/sbin/mysqld". What can I further do to identify what this is?
[13:00] <Waddup> tomreyn: here http://paste.ubuntu.com/25247076/
[13:03] <tomreyn> Waddup: does it work then?
[13:03] <Waddup> i couldn't restart yet
[13:03] <tomreyn> Waddup: i'm not a good samba configuration parser, not as good as sambas, for sure
[13:03] <Waddup> ill try thanks so much tomreyn
[13:05] <sary> Waddup: you may want to ask in #samba .
[13:06] <Waddup> sary thanks ill try that too
[13:09] <tomreyn> poor #samba folks
[13:10] <murlidhar> hi all. I have put usb wifi receiver to my desktop and I am not able to connect to any wifi network.
[13:11] <murlidhar> any help?
[13:11] <tomreyn> !wireless | murlidhar
[13:11] <sary> which device /chipset is it.. murlidhar
[13:11] <murlidhar> the wifi id is being shown on the desktop
[13:12] <Waddup> lol
[13:12] <murlidhar> it's a tenda usb receiver
[13:13] <sary> murlidhar: is it shown under lsusb ..
[13:13] <murlidhar> yes
[13:13] <tomreyn> get the usb id
[13:13] <murlidhar> ok
[13:14] <tomreyn> it looks somewhat like this 1234:abcd
[13:14] <sary> seems to has a Ralink chipset..
[13:14] <murlidhar> typing all that from my hand phone is tough :/
[13:15] <murlidhar> yes it is
[13:15] <sary> Yes indeed.
[13:15] <murlidhar> ralink chipset
[13:15] <murlidhar> bought tinda cuz usually they are well supported by linux
[13:16] <sary> is there kernel driver loaded for it , check $ lsmod ..
[13:16] <murlidhar> MT7601U wireless adapter
[13:16] <murlidhar> hmmm
[13:18] <sary> which ubuntu version are you on murlidhar ..
[13:18] <murlidhar> mt7061u it says up in lsmod
[13:18] <murlidhar> just day before yesterday I upgraded
[13:18] <murlidhar> fresh installation too
[13:19] <sary> was it working before the upgrade ..!
[13:19] <murlidhar> yes
[13:19] <sary> is it plugged in now!
[13:19] <murlidhar> yes
[13:20] <murlidhar> lsmod is showing the device
[13:20] <sary> run dmesg | grep mt7061u .. what does it say!
[13:20] <murlidhar> ok
[13:21] <murlidhar> nothing
[13:21] <murlidhar> pfft
[13:21] <tomreyn> did you post the usb device id, yet?
[13:21] <tomreyn> i must havbe missed it
[13:22] <tomreyn> it's 9 characters, you can do it!
[13:22] <murlidhar> 148f:7601
[13:24] <gr8> How do you create diagrams like this? https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/b3/MCTS_%28English%29.svg/808px-MCTS_%28English%29.svg.png I've tried Dia but it does not have waved arrows
[13:25] <gr8> the waved arrow is important for me
[13:25] <gr8> Inkscape is very uncomfortable to use
[13:25] <gr8> (it does not snap to the grid easily)
[13:25] <gr8> and also is too complicated for me :(
[13:26] <sary> murlidhar: that's strange, run dmesg and look for an entry about the mt7061u firmware error or something..
[13:26] <murlidhar> I tried dmesg but it doesn't give anything up
[13:26] <tomreyn> murlidhar: hmm so according to https://askubuntu.com/questions/457061/ralink-mt7601u-148f7601-wi-fi-adapter-installation/554278 the device should just work.
[13:27] <murlidhar> hmmm
[13:27] <sary> whilst plugged in..!
[13:27] <murlidhar> shall read it
[13:27] <murlidhar> it's already plugged in sary
[13:28] <murlidhar> can see it in lsusb too. can see it in lsmod
[13:28] <tomreyn> murlidhar: are any wireless networks listed on network manager (the little icon on the top right)?
[13:28] <murlidhar> yes. the network manager is showing all the available discoverable networks
[13:29] <murlidhar> just that it doesn't connect to any
[13:29] <murlidhar> :/
[13:30] <murlidhar> what's the command to connect to a network ?
[13:30] <tomreyn> murlidhar: iwconfig
[13:30] <murlidhar> it was something like ifup
[13:30] <murlidhar> ah yes
[13:30] <tomreyn> murlidhar: but it's not straight forward
[13:30] <sary> murlidhar: try sudo modprobe -r mt7601u && sudo modprobe mt7601u
[13:31] <tomreyn> do you have nmcli installed by chance? nmcli nm status
[13:31] <murlidhar> it's a fresh installation. don't think it is installed by default
[13:31] <murlidhar> pfft
[13:31] <sary> otherwise , it might need a different driver.. i see on the web there is mt7601Usta ..
[13:32] <tomreyn> murlidhar: i don't think os either. can you connect an ethernet wire?
[13:32] <tomreyn> debugging this would really be much easier if you could provide more output
[13:33] <tomreyn> i.e. more than i'd want you to type
[13:33] <sary> murlidhar: in GNU/linux most drivers are loaded pre-loaded as a kernel modules ..
[13:33] <murlidhar> well I am trying. I did that modprobe thing
[13:33] <sary> ok ..
[13:33] <murlidhar> and it just didn't show any output
[13:33] <murlidhar> just asked for the password
[13:34] <sary> it wouldn't .. so that normal
[13:35] <murlidhar> should I try that iwconfig thingy ?
[13:35] <murlidhar> probably I have to manually disable that driver by putting that # thingy
[13:35] <sary> murlidhar: according to this it's the kernel driver was pre-loaded since kernel 4.2 .. https://github.com/torvalds/linux/tree/master/drivers/net/wireless/mediatek/mt7601u
[13:36] <murlidhar> I remember I did that few years ago
[13:36] <tomreyn> do you have this file? /lib/firmware/mt7601u.bin
[13:36] <murlidhar> let me check
[13:36] <sary> which driver .. you think another driver is causing a conflict..
[13:37] <murlidhar> I guess so. might be causing a conflict
[13:38] <murlidhar> tomreyn no there isn't any.
[13:39] <murlidhar> oops there is tomreyn   . sorry
[13:39] <murlidhar> I can see both the bin files tomreyn
[13:40] <tomreyn> murlidhar: ok, it would have been easier to fix if it had not been there ;)
[13:40] <murlidhar> 7601u n 7601
[13:40] <tomreyn> ok
[13:40] <murlidhar> oops again
[13:40] <murlidhar> wait
[13:40] <murlidhar> there is another one mt7650.bin
[13:41] <tomreyn> i am asking about this very file - and none other /lib/firmware/mt7601u.bin
[13:41] <tomreyn> does it exist?
[13:41] <murlidhar> there is
[13:41] <murlidhar> it does I mean
[13:41] <tomreyn> ok
[13:42] <murlidhar> let's delete it? cuz you said fix is easy if it hasn't existed. easy peasy ;)
[13:43] <tomreyn> murlidhar: i'm saying if this file would not exist we'd just need to ensure it does. removing the file will not help.
[13:43] <murlidhar> :) I was kidding
[13:43] <tomreyn> this is the firmware blob required for this hardware to work correctly.
[13:44] <tomreyn> did you answer my question about whether you could attach a wire?
[13:44] <murlidhar> night tenda instead of those cheap Chinese ones so that I wouldn't have any compatibility problem. pfft
[13:44] <murlidhar> tomreyn I wish I could but can't. the modem is in another floor.
[13:45] <murlidhar> and this isn't a laptop
[13:45] <tomreyn> murlidhar: do you have another device which could bridge it?
[13:45] <murlidhar> it's a middle aged desktop
[13:46] <murlidhar> :/ no I don't have any.
[13:46] <tomreyn> when you installe dubuntu, did you connect to the wireless network, i.e. did it work then?
[13:47] <murlidhar> I downloaded the iso n put it in a bootable usb
[13:47] <murlidhar> from my earlier version of Ubuntu
[13:47] <murlidhar> then fresh installed it
[13:47] <murlidhar> and since then I see the network but can't connect to it
[13:48] <tomreyn> murlidhar: at some point during the installation the installer asks you whether oyu'd like to go online, did you try that?
[13:48] <murlidhar> my earlier Ubuntu version was 11.04
[13:48] <tomreyn> uuh, about time to reinstall indeed
[13:48] <murlidhar> yeah
[13:49] <tomreyn> specifically, i think the 16.04 installer asks whether you would like to install updates form the internet during installation. did you choose 'yes' when it asked?
[13:49] <murlidhar> tomreyn yes. it did ask. I said no cuz I was in a hurry to install
[13:49] <tomreyn> murlidhar: ok, so reboot to the live / installer cd, choose the live option and see if you can get online from there
[13:50] <murlidhar> ok
[13:50] <tomreyn> if you can, then reinstall choosing the 'install updates during installation' option
[13:50] <murlidhar> live usb
[13:50] <murlidhar> ok
[13:50] <murlidhar> shall try and get back to you guys
[13:50] <sary> at least use the 16.04 iso ..
[13:51] <tomreyn> be sure to use the *latest* ubuntu 16.04 installation iso
[13:51] <murlidhar> yes. got it from the official website
[13:51] <sary> and check the hashes of the iso before you burn it to the usb ..
[13:51] <Dreaman> is not good idea updates in fresh intall onli nonfree repo
[13:51] <tomreyn> Ubuntu 16.04.3 LTS wa sjust released a few days ago
[13:51] <murlidhar> I already have it
[13:51] <Dreaman> update after intall
[13:51] <murlidhar> oh
[13:52] <Dreaman> install
[13:52] <tomreyn> Dreaman: wait what?
[13:52] <tomreyn> Dreaman: it's perfectly fine to install updates during installation
[13:52] <Dreaman> is not good idea
[13:52] <tomreyn> whether or not you choose to install third party components is a seperate choice
[13:52] <Dreaman> 1 2 time not start for me
[13:52] <tomreyn> Dreaman: did oyu report a bug?
[13:53] <Dreaman> no is not star
[13:53] <Dreaman> how to report
[13:53] <tomreyn> i don't understand "no is not star"
[13:53] <Dreaman> ubuntu
[13:53] <tomreyn> hmm i can't follow
[13:53] <sary> report a bug you mean ..
[13:54] <MonkeyDust> i guess 'star' means 'starting', typing interrupted
[13:54] <Dreaman> i not use this option onli 3 parth of repo
[13:55] <tomreyn> okay, but just because it did not work for Dreamon should not mean it does not work in general. so i suggest you disregard this for now murlidhar
[13:55] <Dreaman> update after install
[13:55] <Dreaman> ok
[13:55] <sary> murlidhar: is the device plugged into usb.3 or 2.0 ..!
[13:55] <murlidhar> I tried both sary . the ones in front and in ones at back
[13:56] <murlidhar> it's a usb 2 only I think
[13:56] <murlidhar> have a 2009 desktop
[13:56] <murlidhar> core 2 duo
[13:58] <sary> wait , how is it that the device uses a ralink chipset , yet the driver for it is an MT7061u !
[13:58] <murlidhar> yikes. not able to live boot from my usb now
[13:58] <murlidhar> no idea sary
[13:58] <sary> shouldn't be an RTXXXX.
[13:59] <sary> well, am lookin' at https://wikidevi.com/wiki/List_of_Tenda_Wireless_Devices
[14:04] <gijeff> Is there a calculator utility I can use in a terminal?
[14:04] <W13> calc?
[14:04] <murlidhar> tomreyn I am not able to boot from my liveusb now :/
[14:04] <murlidhar> any alternative fix?
[14:04] <MonkeyDust> what's the command again to show a service's (daemon's) status ?
[14:04] <gijeff> do I have to install calc?
[14:05] <gijeff> terminal does not recognize command
[14:05] <W13> Yes.
[14:05] <murlidhar> for the wifi connection ofcourse
[14:05] <gijeff> Do you know what the install is? I tried install calc, however there is nothing associated with that name
[14:06] <W13> Hmm... I believe it is just calc
[14:06] <W13> sudo apt-get install calc
[14:06] <murlidhar> !list calc
[14:06] <murlidhar> !find calc
[14:07] <gijeff> ok great will use apcalc thank you :)
[14:07] <murlidhar>  it's apcalc now
[14:07] <W13> Ah yes, but you can call it from cli with calc.
[14:08] <gijeff> installed and working
[14:08] <murlidhar> cool
[14:08] <gijeff> can call with calc 2+2
[14:08] <gijeff> Thank you for the help
[14:12] <tomreyn> murlidhar: why can you not boot off the liveusb now?
[14:13] <murlidhar> says unable to mount fs on unknown-block
[14:14] <murlidhar> gives kernel panic
[14:14] <murlidhar> :/
[14:14] <tomreyn> murlidhar: that's the same live usb installer you installed from?
[14:14] <murlidhar> yes
[14:14] <murlidhar> just day before yesterday I installed it
[14:14] <tomreyn> murlidhar: i guess your usb storage is falling apart. do you still have the iso image?
[14:15] <tomreyn> murlidhar: also try plugging it into a different usb port
[14:15] <venthe1650> Hello. can you tell me how can i add application to launcher?
[14:16] <murlidhar> iso image can be downloaded again. not a problem but making it bootable is the tough part for me since I don't have any other pc
[14:16] <tomreyn> murlidhar: and power down your computer for at least 1 minute before trying again.
[14:16] <murlidhar> tomreyn tried cold booting too
[14:16] <tomreyn> murlidhar: how would you download it without internet access?
[14:16] <murlidhar> from my phone
[14:17] <sary> dd the iso to the usb murlidhar .. never fails me.
[14:17] <murlidhar> but I can't make it bootable from my android phone. can I?
[14:18] <tomreyn> murlidhar: you can download it to your phone, transfer the iso to your desktop, write it to the usb stroage form your desktop
[14:18] <sary> so you don't have an installed OS on the machine..!
[14:19] <tomreyn> murlidhar: if you're lucky writing to the usb storage will succeed. but the fact that it used to work fine and does not now makes me think something is probably wrong with your usb storage and you may not be able to make it work again. it's still worth a try.
[14:19] <venthe1650> sorry didnt mean launcher... not really sure how it is called so i have trouble finding a solution. how is the menu called that appears after pressing meta (windows) key in gnome
[14:19] <murlidhar> tomreyn is it possible? ok shall download the iso n transfer it to my desktop n then get back to you
[14:21] <tomreyn> murlidhar: if you have sufficent space available on your phone, maybe download the latest ubuntu 14.04 live iso / installer image, too, so you'll have more choices.
[14:21] <sary> it's been awhile since iv'e used gnome , what does that menu looks like venthe1650 , can you take screenshoot!
[14:21] <murlidhar> okay. shall try
[14:23] <venthe1650> the one that shows you all open applications
[14:24] <murlidhar> tomreyn should I leave 17.04 be?
[14:24] <venthe1650> i think i have found the name. i need to create desktop entry i guess
[14:29] <tomreyn> murlidhar: it's also worth a try, but i'd rather expect 14.04 to work than 17.04. ( but try 16.04 first)
[14:30] <murlidhar> downloading 16.04 right now
[14:31] <tomreyn> murlidhar: 16.04.3, right?
[14:31] <murlidhar> yes sire
[14:31] <W13> Is there a specific IRC channel for troubleshooting issues with WINE?
[14:31] <tomreyn> murlidhar: also be sure to pick the irght one for your architecture, i.e. i686 vs amd64
[14:32] <murlidhar> 64bit
[14:32] <murlidhar> core 2duo processor
[14:32] <tomreyn> okay, that'll work
[14:49] <murlidhar> tomreyn copied the iso to the desktop.  what now? how do I make the iso bootable?
[14:50] <sary> W13: could be #wine , #winehq .. consult #alis /msg alis list *wine* ..
[14:51] <sary> W13: there also #crossover .
[14:52] <murlidhar> sary how I make it bootable usb now?
[14:52] <murlidhar> do*
[14:52] <tomreyn> murlidhar: start "startub-disk-creator" from the menu or "usb-creator-gtk" from a terminal, select the image, attach your usb stroage, and write to it.
[14:53] <murlidhar> tomreyn is a fresh installation. isn't it?
[14:53] <tomreyn> murlidhar: this will be a freshly created ubuntu installation media, yes
[14:53] <tomreyn> (if i got your question the right way)
[14:54] <murlidhar> I mean the desktop i am running right now is a fresh installation. I am not sure this app is installed by default when fresh installing
[14:55] <tomreyn> murlidhar: i think it is
[14:55] <murlidhar> I don't see it
[14:55] <sary> murlidhar: formate the us to FAT32 in gparted , and follow tomreyn suggestion.
[14:55] <murlidhar> :/
[14:55] <sary> are you on the live usb/cd..!
[14:56] <murlidhar> no
[14:58] <murlidhar> sary I am not able to boot from my live usb anymore. two days back I could n install a fresh os but since I am not able to connect to internet anymore from the freshly installed os
[14:59] <tomreyn> murlidhar: in case i should be wrong and the startup media creator is not available, you can use 'lsblk -fs' in a temrinal to identify the usb media to write to, e.g. /dev/sdX, then use 'sudo dd if=~/Downloads/my-downloaded-ubuntu-image.iso of=/dev/sdX bs=10M'
[14:59] <murlidhar> I am trying to reinstall a fresh
[14:59] <hosas> hello is there a way to setup a system-wide proxy for ubuntu 16.04. I need to connect to a website (via terminal) to activate a a software and GUI method is just not cutting it for me
[14:59] <hosas> thanks
[15:00] <murlidhar> hmmm
[15:00] <tomreyn> what type of proxy?
[15:00] <tomreyn> hosas: ^
[15:01] <sary> murlidhar: for the usb creater, the packages are usb-creator-common , and usb-creator-gtk
[15:01] <hosas> tomreyn: sock proxy
[15:01] <tomreyn> murlidhar: what happens when you type "usb-creator-gtk" in a temrinal window?
[15:01] <RJW2> Hello folks :) I have a pretty annoying problem with ubuntu and external monitors (see also https://askubuntu.com/questions/943084/ubuntu-16-04-and-three-monitors-doesnt-work ) and wondered if any of you might help me out solving this.... I'd very much appreciate your help!!
[15:01] <sary> murlidhar: that's strange , bootin' from/to the live session .. do you get a black screen or what.
[15:01] <murlidhar> tomreyn says currently not installed.
[15:02] <murlidhar> sary kernel panic
[15:02] <sary> damnit!
[15:02] <murlidhar> yep
[15:02] <sary> which cpu is it..
[15:02] <tomreyn> hosas: tsocks is a socks5 capable proxy client. once installed an dconfigured, you can prefix any terminal command with 'tsocks' to make it talk through the socks proxy you configured.
[15:02] <murlidhar> so again trying to create a live usb
[15:03] <murlidhar> sary core 2 duo
[15:03] <tomreyn> murlidhar: okay, try the 'dd' command then as discussed above
[15:04] <murlidhar> trying
[15:04] <murlidhar> looks like it's sbd1
[15:04] <tomreyn> murlidhar: no its not, maybe its sdb
[15:04] <tomreyn> sbd1 is a partition
[15:05] <tomreyn> actually sdb1 is a partition
[15:05] <hosas> tomreyn: I tried it (from google)  but not much luck the app-activator keeps knowing I'm within school
[15:05] <murlidhar> shows sdb1   yeah vfat
[15:05] <murlidhar> it's the one
[15:05] <tomreyn> hosas: are you trying to circumvent your schools security there?
[15:06] <tomreyn> murlidhar: write to sdb then, not sdb1
[15:06] <murlidhar> ok
[15:06] <murlidhar> yeah
[15:07] <hosas> tomreyn: nope I'm trying to do the opposite..force my system to use the school proxy
[15:07] <tomreyn> murlidhar: you want to replace all data on this device with the image, not just the data on this one partition. that's unless oyu have data on this usb storage you still need?
[15:07] <tomreyn> hosas: okay, what's an "app-activator"?
[15:08] <murlidhar> tomreyn nope. don't need.
[15:08] <sary> RJW2: Hiya , how good is the cables conditions .. is this the first time attemptin' this triple monitor on ubuntu ! the thinkpad doesn't happen to have a dual/hybrid graphics, or does it!
[15:09] <hosas> tomreyn: a bash script that confirms my ip (or something like that) before activating my license (academic license)
[15:09] <murlidhar> tomreyn not autocompleting the iso address
[15:10] <murlidhar> tomreyn it's in /dev/sda5/
[15:10] <RJW2> sary: the cables are all brand new and the whole setup works flawlessly under win7. From what I understand the thinkpad has only the Intel Graphics 520 (again - everything works fine with win7). Also, before adding the third monitor (I was waiting for a cable from amazon ;)  ) it worked fine with 2 monitors
[15:10] <RJW2> sary: a more detailed description is in the link that I posted as well ;)
[15:11] <tomreyn> murlidhar: murlidhar /dev/sda5 is a partition, which may contian a file system, which may contain your file, what you need to provide there (for the 'if' parameter) is the path to the iso file on your mounted file system.
[15:12] <tomreyn> murlidhar: e.g. if you copied the ISO file form your phone to your 'Downloads' folder on your desktop then use "of=~/Downloads/name_of_the_iso_file.iso"
[15:13] <murlidhar> tomreyn so should I type sudo dd if=/dev/sda5/ubunt-whatever.iso
[15:13] <murlidhar> errr
[15:13] <murlidhar> I am confused
[15:14] <murlidhar> silly me
[15:14] <sary> RJW2: Ok, under the monitors settings.. is there an option to flush HDMI, similar to resting the monitor , als have you tried reseting the monitors!
[15:15] <tomreyn> murlidhar: not /dev/sda5, no. tell me where you placed the iso file after copying it to your desktop
[15:15] <RJW2> sary: what do you mean by "flush HDMI" ? and what exactly by resetting the monitors? (sorry for the silly questions, I'm pretty new to Ubuntu and also have never had more than one monitor before...)
[15:15] <murlidhar> tomreyn it's a sda5
[15:15] <murlidhar> at*
[15:16] <tomreyn> which folder / directory?
[15:16] <murlidhar> errr /dev/sda5/ubuntu.iso
[15:17] <tomreyn> murlidhar: alternatively, how did you copy it from your smartphone to your desktop compouter?
[15:17] <murlidhar> to this folder.....
[15:18] <murlidhar> sda5 is a partition in my desktop
[15:18] <murlidhar> I have copied it to that place
[15:18] <tomreyn> murlidhar: using which command or application?
[15:18] <sary> RJW2: if you go to the settings menu on one of the defected monitors .. what options does it have!
[15:19] <murlidhar> tomreyn it is named as movies this partition. just did copy paste.
[15:19] <tomreyn> murlidhar: can you use the graphical file manager to change into the directoy where the iso file is stored?
[15:19] <RJW2> sary: unfortunately they are in the office, and I am not. Since they work fine under win7, I thought I could find a solution here or at least several hints that I could try as soon as I am back in the office :-/ looks like I'll have to postpone it.... sorry to have bothered you unnecessarily! Do you happen to be around on monday? O;-)
[15:19] <murlidhar> tomreyn sorry I got it. /media/murlidhar/movies
[15:20] <tomreyn> murlidhar: okay, and the name of the iso file is?
[15:20] <murlidhar> ubuntu.iso
[15:21] <murlidhar> I try to keep the names simple . pfft
[15:21] <tomreyn> murlidhar: sudo dd if=/media/murlidhar/movies/ubuntu.iso of=/dev/sdb bs=10M
[15:23] <murlidhar> yeah. already done. it's doing it's thingy
[15:23] <murlidhar> I was confused if I should use the /dev/sda5 or /media/murlidhar thingy.
[15:24] <murlidhar> my bad. sometimes I lose my commonsense
[15:24] <tomreyn> murlidhar: no problem, glad you found out eventually
[15:25] <murlidhar> oops but I didn't format the usb before.
[15:25] <tomreyn> murlidhar: no need
[15:25] <murlidhar> ok. cool then
[15:25] <deadmund_> What is the channel for c programming help?
[15:25] <lamduh> What should I look into for remoting into my linux desktop from my windows 10 laptop from a public network?
[15:25] <sary> RJW2: ok , Yes am logged here most of the times .. feel free to ping me! I think the triple monitors needs to be setup using xander. There is https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NvidiaMultiMonitors , but i'll try to find the one for Intels.
[15:25] <lamduh> want full window control, not a terminmal
[15:26] <tomreyn> deadmund_: it is *not* #ubuntu.
[15:26] <tomreyn> !alis | deadmund_
[15:26] <deadmund_> Thanks!  Sorry!
[15:26] <murlidhar> tomreyn ok. done. let's hope it live boots now.
[15:26] <RJW2> sary: thank you so much. I read on the forums about xander (even though I don't really know what it is or does) and found solutions for NVidia, but I thought they probably don't work with a different graphics chip.... :-/ thanks so much for your willingness to help!
[15:26] <tomreyn> murlidhar: good luck, were there any errorsreported by dd?
[15:26] <murlidhar> nope
[15:27] <murlidhar> I didn't notice any
[15:27] <tomreyn> good
[15:28] <murlidhar> tomreyn offtopic . my desktop is giving me electric shock. :/
[15:28] <tomreyn> murlidhar: do you8 knowthe size of the iso you downloaded?
[15:28] <tomreyn> murlidhar: ugh, maybe you should just replace it...
[15:29] <AI_bot123432> hallo
[15:29] <sary> RJW2: YW , when you get infront of the desktop you can run the man page for xander in terminal $ man xander .. for more details.
[15:29] <murlidhar> tomreyn it's booting..
[15:29] <AI_bot123432> i have a question about ash scripting
[15:29] <AI_bot123432> *bash
[15:30] <murlidhar> tomreyn so should I check the option for download updates while installing Ubuntu?
[15:30] <AI_bot123432> is anyone here a bash junkie ? :D
[15:30] <tomreyn> murlidhar: yes, this is unchanged
[15:30] <sary> AI_bot123432: Hiya , you may want to ask in #bash .
[15:30] <tomreyn> AI_bot123432: people in #bash are. but you could also ask your question here
[15:31] <RJW2> sary: I guess I'd have to install it first ;) I just tried it (so I have the laptop, but the monitors are obviously in the office...) and it says no manual entry for xander ;) I'll just google a bit to find out what xander is so that I'm more of a help to be helped on monday ;)
[15:31] <murlidhar> tomreyn the size of iso was 1.5gb
[15:31] <AI_bot123432> thank you <3
[15:31] <tomreyn> murlidhar: before or after download?
[15:32] <murlidhar> tomreyn same thing
[15:32] <tomreyn> murlidhar: very well :)
[15:33] <murlidhar> tomreyn ok. giving me options. erase Ubuntu 17.04 and reinstall ?
[15:33] <tomreyn> murlidhar: 17.04? did you not say you had 16.04 installed?
[15:34] <sary> RJW2: Yes good idea.. thanks for flyin' ubuntu, See you then :)
[15:34] <murlidhar> no. it had 17.04 before.
[15:34] <RJW2> sary: see you on monday - and thanks again!!
[15:34] <tomreyn> murlidhar: okay, it doesn't really matter though. so if you won't loose data then just erase and reinstall, yes
[15:35] <Nokaji> Hi, following failed upgrade with Ubuntu 16.04 (and a roll-back), my printer connection died on me. I heard it was a software bug, hoped given time it would resolve itself but no - I really miss my printer, here are the errors, thanks - https://justpaste.it/edit/17486113/231d3c4d
[15:37] <tomreyn> Nokaji: once you reached some stage of a dist-upgrade you can't roll back from a failed dist-upgrade. it looks like you need to complete the upgrade to 16.04 or reinstall
[15:37] <Nokaji> tomreyn: I may have worded that bad - 16.04 is fine, it is a daily/whatever update within 16.04
[15:38] <murlidhar> tomreyn I am choosing /dev/sda10 for /home n /dev/sda1 for /
[15:38] <murlidhar> tomreyn good enough?
[15:39] <Nokaji> cups has bad dependencies but I can;t fix broken packages or fully uninstall and relace with gutenprint??? the suggested alternative
[15:39] <tomreyn> murlidhar: those are nice numbers, but i can not know what they mean on your system
[15:39] <murlidhar> so that next time I won't lose app settings n stuff
[15:39] <murlidhar> tomreyn I mean I am creating a separate partition for /home
[15:40] <sary> murlidhar: / needs more space than /home , and don't make a separate /boot .
[15:40] <tomreyn> murlidhar: yes thats a wise choice. reserve 15 GB for the main system ( / mount point), assign everything else to /home. if offered, use LVM
[15:41] <murlidhar> tomreyn is swap space important?
[15:42] <tomreyn> murlidhar: it can be useful. it is only *important* if you want to be able to suspend to disk, though.
[15:42] <murlidhar> hmmm ok
[15:42] <sary> I think the new installer creates a swapfile , if not crated yourself later.
[15:43] <tomreyn> Nokaji: either way, the state of your APT repositories and packaging system is njot good. you should try to repair it form a terminal.
[15:44] <Nokaji> tomaw: okay, can you clue me in how I go about that? - I can see a list of breaks/ dependencies / depends etc - I guess the breaks need sorting out
[15:44] <Nokaji> sorry ..... tomreyn !
[15:45] <Nokaji> would a reinstall be easier?
[15:45] <murlidhar> tomreyn 16gb is enough for /system ?
[15:45] <tomreyn> Nokaji: please put these commands and the output they generate on a pastebin: sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-cache policy; sudo apt-get -f install
[15:45] <tomreyn> !paste | Nokaji
[15:46] <murlidhar> tomreyn for /home i have given 33gb
[15:46] <tomreyn> murlidhar: there is not /system
[15:46] <murlidhar> I mean /
[15:46] <tomreyn> murlidhar: yes, that's most likely enough
[15:46] <murlidhar> okay
[15:47] <murlidhar> fingers crossed. hopefully it installs smoothly n the wifi works.
[15:48] <tomreyn> murlidhar: did it not ask you to configure the wifi, yet? you'd surely need to select the network and enter the password (if any)
[15:48] <mitmf> how i can install gimp?
[15:49] <murlidhar> tomreyn yeah it asked for the password n I entered it.
[15:49] <murlidhar> tomreyn does it mean it's fixed now?
[15:49] <tomreyn> mitmf: sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get install gimp
[15:50] <mitmf> tomreyn: oh thanks but i can install it with github?
[15:50] <mitmf> i know that apt-get install command install old one.
[15:50] <tomreyn> murlidhar: it means that you successfully established a wireless network / AP connection on the ubuntu 16.04 installer and that it should also be possible to do so after installation.
[15:51] <murlidhar> tomreyn phew :)
[15:51] <tomreyn> mitmf: how do you mean install without github? what does package installation have to do with github?
[15:51] <murlidhar> tomreyn I should treat myself with a chocolate bar I guess :D
[15:52] <mitmf> with github. tomreyn
[15:52] <murlidhar> tomreyn wish I could share it with ya :)
[15:52] <tomreyn> murlidhar: wait until you booted and got online
[15:52] <murlidhar> tomreyn thanks. you been the best.
[15:52] <Nokaji> tomreyn: Thanks - http://paste.ubuntu.com/25247909/
[15:52] <murlidhar> tomreyn okay :)
[15:53] <murlidhar> it is downloading the stuff from internet
[15:53] <tomreyn> mitmf: if you are asking whether you can or should build the gimp from source code placed somewhere on github.com when my recommendation is against that.
[15:53] <mitmf> ok thanks then i will install it with apt-get
[15:53] <mitmf> :)
[15:54] <tomreyn> Nokaji: now run: sudo apt-get dist-upgrade -V
[15:54] <Nokaji> okie...
[15:55] <murlidhar> tomreyn gotta charge the battery of my phone
[15:55] <Nokaji> tomreyn:  what does the -V switch do?
[15:55] <tomreyn> Nokaji: it should install 10 package upgrades.
[15:56] <tomreyn> Nokaji: the -V switch will show current and future / upgraded versions
[15:56] <Nokaji> yup, 10 to install, 5 new - 300mb
[15:56] <murlidhar> tomreyn incase I get stuck up I shall bother you .but I don't think I will get stuck up anymore. thanks a ton mate.
[15:56] <tomreyn> murlidhar: welcome, good luck
[15:56] <murlidhar> tomreyn take care. bye.
[15:59] <venthe1650> Hey. I have ubuntu 16.0.4 lts and gnome desktop. I have just added bunch of wallpapers to /usr/share/backgrounds but when i try to change wallpaper the list is not complete
[15:59] <venthe1650> it only shows default wallpapers
[16:00] <Nokaji> tomreyn: okay, it's completed (85MB files, 300MB installed) - It's saying restart required
[16:01] <tomreyn> Nokaji: so, i guess you could restart ;)
[16:01] <tomreyn> Nokaji: once that's done come back here and tell us the command you ran to produce the error message you had posted initially.
[16:02] <Nokaji> tomreyn: Will do :) fingers crossed ... bbiab ... thanks again!
[16:05] <renatoneto> hi
[16:05] <renatoneto> can i use ubuntu server without grub in the mbr?
[16:06] <renatoneto> because when i install it using the cd and don't install grub, it seems like mij mbr isn't bootable
[16:06] <tomreyn> venthe1650: try this https://askubuntu.com/questions/109208/how-do-i-add-new-wallpapers
[16:06] <renatoneto> mij = my
[16:07] <tomreyn> renatoneto: you'll need something to boot your ubuntu. most of the time you want to install grub, and install it to the first hard disks' MBR.
[16:07] <tomreyn> (so on the first disk, not into a partition)
[16:08] <renatoneto> tomreyn: i'm using iPXE to boot and would like to chainload into ubuntu server
[16:08] <tomreyn> renatoneto: theoretically you could use other boot managers to boot into ubuntu, but in most situations that's not what you want to do.
[16:09] <Nokaji> tomreyn: Back :) - We have something resembling some activity, I can now see a  PRINTERS icon in a coupla places, it's telling me 'not connected' so far
[16:10] <Nokaji> option to ADD Printer, greyed out
[16:11] <tomreyn> renatoneto: if you pxe boot you'll receive your boot loader and likely also your kernel from the network. if you want that to chainload into anything local then you'll need to modify what you get from the network.
[16:11] <Nokaji> tomreyn: trying to connect with localhost gives me "There was an error during the CUPS operation: 'failed to connect to server'."
[16:11] <Nokaji> way more than I had beofre, fo' sure
[16:12] <tomreyn> Nokaji: which ubuntu version do you run and which printer model are you trying to install?
[16:13] <tomreyn> 'lsb_release -sd', typed into a temrinal, should answer the first question
[16:13] <Nokaji> tomreyn:  Canon PIXMA MX 925 - I'm guessing I need to add a driver for it
[16:13] <Nokaji> 16.04 but I'll check in terminal ...
[16:14] <Nokaji> Ubuntu 16.04.3 LTS
[16:15] <Nokaji> gutenprint has been recommended at times, I think I used it before...
[16:17] <tomreyn> Nokaji: does http://localhost:631 load in a web browser?
[16:18] <klusias> hello. On ubuntu 14.04 i want downgrade from libssl1.1 to libssl1.0.2. Tried removing libssl1.1 package (successfully), but cannot install 1.0.2. apt says, that there is no candidate
[16:19] <tomreyn> klusias: right, you don't do that. why would you want to do it in the first place?
[16:19] <Nokaji> tomreyn:  I get "Unable to connect"
[16:19] <klusias> tomreyn, librabbitmq4 needs 1.0.2 and doesnt work with 1.1
[16:19] <tomreyn> Nokaji: run this in a temrinal, then try accessing localhost:631 again: sudo /etc/init.d/cups restart
[16:20] <tomreyn> klusias: where di you get this librabbitmq4?
[16:20] <Nokaji> okie,...
[16:20] <klusias> tomreyn, trying to install via apt-get install librabbitmq4
[16:22] <Nokaji> tomreyn: A PROBLEM WITH THAT ONE, SHOULD i TRY "sudo /etc/init.d/cups restart"?
[16:22] <Nokaji> oops, sorry caps
[16:22] <tomreyn> klusias: please post these commands and their output to a pastebin: sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get -f install; apt-cache policy; apt-cache policy librabbitmq4 libssl1.1 libssl1.0.2
[16:22] <Nokaji> ... no good either
[16:23] <tomreyn> Nokaji: if you haven't run it yet, run it now
[16:23] <Nokaji> command not found ... okay will try again
[16:23] <tomreyn> Nokaji: okay you need to install cups
[16:23] <tomreyn> Nokaji: sudo apt-get install cups
[16:24] <Nokaji> Thanks tomreyn :) I'm optimistic here
[16:24] <tomreyn> Nokaji: once that's done you can probably configure your printer where it was greyed out before.
[16:24] <Nokaji> Ah, maybe not quite yet .... "The following packages have unmet dependencies."
[16:25] <Nokaji> I'll paste it, it is a much shorter list than before, 6/8 lines or so ...
[16:26] <tomreyn> Nokaji: please use paste.ubuntu.com
[16:26] <Nokaji> http://paste.ubuntu.com/25248222/
[16:26] <klusias> tomreyn, i added new sources to source.list and it worked out, dunno why apt-get update didnt worked out before
[16:27] <tomreyn> klusias: i'm guessing that you are combining packages from different linux distributions or releases.
[16:27] <tomreyn> klusias: the commands i suggested to run may help sort this out.
[16:29] <MonkeyDust> klusias  type   sudo apt update    and paste the output here ... http://paste.ubuntu.com/
[16:29] <tomreyn> Nokaji: something is still very wrong with your package management system. i suggest you do this: cd; wget https://raw.githubusercontent.com/tomreyn/scripts/master/foreign_packages ; chmod +x foriegn_packages; sudo apt install apt-show-versions; ./foreign_packages
[16:32] <Nokaji> tomreyn: okay, that went ahead fine
[16:33] <tomreyn> Nokaji: it shouldn't since i had a typo in there and the script you downloaded should have stated that it needs to be run through sudo
[16:33] <Nokaji> I corrected the 'foreign' bit :)
[16:34] <Nokaji> made me feel a little less useless by spotting it - here's the result - http://paste.ubuntu.com/25248258/
[16:34] <tomreyn> Nokaji: cd; sudo foreign_packages | pastebinit -
[16:35] <tomreyn> you may also want to 'sudo apt-get --purge autoremove' at some point to remove packages you no longe rneed.
[16:36] <plut0> Auto login to X isn't working on 16.04, used to work on an older version. How can I troubleshoot this? lightdm starts with the login screen instead of logging in automatically
[16:37] <pavlos> plut0: look at /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf
[16:37] <Nokaji> tomreyn: okie, done the purge bit, installed pastbinit but it says "trying to send empty document - exiting"
[16:38] <tomreyn> Nokaji: can i see the command you ran?
[16:38] <plut0> pavlos: yes i'm using the config from /usr/share, edited the autologin-user and autologin-user-timeout variables
[16:39] <Nokaji> sure tomreyn ...
[16:39] <pavlos> plut0: and did you logout/login again?
[16:40] <Nokaji> tomreyn: http://paste.ubuntu.com/25248279/
[16:41] <Nokaji> tomreyn: I'm getting a "please restart computer" meassage - shall I give that a try?
[16:42] <tomreyn> Nokaji: my mistake, sorry. reboot, then run: cd; sudo ./foreign_packages | pastebinit -
[16:42] <Nokaji> okay I'll restart ... bbiab ...
[16:43] <Nokaji> tomreyn: okie, will do - you are doing an amazing job, thanks again - you make it look easy :)
[16:43] <pavlos> plut0: https://askubuntu.com/questions/51086/how-do-i-enable-auto-login-in-lightdm
[16:43] <plut0> pavlos: looks like the username field is hidden
[16:44] <pavlos> plut0: seems you're gui, unlock and then select the user and autologin
[16:46] <plut0> pavlos: already have this configured, it's not working
[16:46] <pavlos> plut0: look at the link I sent, other options listed
[16:46] <Nokaji> tomreyn: right, I have http://paste.ubuntu.com/25248322/
[16:46] <plut0> pavlos: defaults to the wrong username, can't even change the username
[16:47] <pavlos> plut0: can you create another user and test?
[16:48] <Nokaji> tomreyn: I recall a file got released into the wild and then retracted, I picked it up on my 'daily' updates - that may explain the newer version, that's why I was hoping the problem might fix itself when the file versions caught up
[16:48] <tomreyn> Nokaji: please run these commands and provide their output: sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get -f install; apt-cache policy; apt-cache policy cups-client cups
[16:48] <plut0> pavlos: doesn't help, can't change the username on the greeter
[16:49] <Nokaji> tomreyn: okie, running it on one line ...
[16:50] <tomreyn> Nokaji: i don't think ubuntu every 'unpublishes' updates, instead a package version with a hi9gher version number would be made available, fixing errors in previous versions of the same package.
[16:51] <Nokaji> tomreyn: I was hoping for such but they retracted the snafu and don't seem to have fixed the version numbers - http://paste.ubuntu.com/25248337/
[16:51] <Nokaji> I could be wronger than wrong ofc, just my understanding here
[16:52] <tomreyn> Nokaji: i don't think such would ever be done for ubuntu repositories. but you are using a lot of PPAs, which are egnerally unsupported, and might apply such practices.
[16:53] <eater9> Is there a particular process that listens for global keyboard shortcuts? Which I could restart if it hangs after resume from suspend?
[16:54] <tomreyn> Nokaji: you should download security updates form security.ubuntu,.com only.
[16:55] <tomreyn> you get those from gb.archive.ubuntu.com
[16:55] <Nokaji> tomreyn: okay, I'll have to look in to that, been a while I forget what some of those are for
[16:56] <tomreyn> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SecurityTeam/FAQ#What_repositories_and_pockets_should_I_use_to_make_sure_my_systems_are_up_to_date.3F
[16:56] <tomreyn> this is most likely not the cause of the problems you are seeing now, though
[16:57] <Nokaji> tomreyn: okay - is it fixable you reckon?
[16:57] <bnason> I'm having some problems resizing my systems root partition. I've booted into a livecd and got gparted to extend the lvm from 50GB to the full 100GB
[16:57] <bnason> but if I mount the filesystem, its still the old size
[16:58] <tomreyn> Nokaji: actually the security archive may be why
[16:58] <tomreyn> Nokaji: try fixing that, then update + dist-upgrade
[16:59] <bnason> I've tried running resize2fs but it just reports "The filesystem is already 12456960 (4k) blocks long. Nothing to do!"
[16:59] <plut0> is there any logs for lightdm?
[16:59] <plut0> i see them
[16:59] <Nokaji> tomreyn: okay, I'll see what it is and then maybe remove it
[17:00] <sary> plut0: aren't they loged in /var/log/lightdm ..!
[17:01] <tomreyn> Nokaji: once that's done, also do this (unless you installed any of these packages on purpose - in which case let's discuss these): sudo apt-ge4t purge libdvdcss-dev libdvdcss2 libgcrypt11 libgnutls26 libguess1 libreoffice-presentation-minimizer librtmp0 libvpx1
[17:02] <Nokaji> tomreyn: I recall I installed a 'clam' anti-virus proggie ...
[17:02] <tomreyn> Nokaji: to correct your security APT archive, comment out the lines with "xenial-security" you currently have in /etc/apt/sources.list and replace them by
[17:02] <tomreyn> http://paste.ubuntu.com/25248376/
[17:02] <bnason> hmm appears I had to manually run lvresize
[17:03] <tomreyn> Nokaji: neither of the packages i suggested to remove is related to ClamAV.
[17:03] <Nokaji> tomreyn: thanks for figuring that bit out for me, I'll get on to it
[17:05] <plut0> pavlos: i tried a manual login, looks like X just crashes when I login with that user
[17:07] <tomreyn> welcome
[17:09] <Nokaji> tomreyn: just to check I understand this .. I currently have 4 lines with xenial-security there. I am to comment out all four and replace with the six lines exactly as they are?
[17:10] <Nokaji> replace meaning add below, or above
[17:10] <Nokaji> 'replace' meaning ....
[17:11] <tomreyn> Nokaji: yes, eaxctly. better comment out (put a # as the first character) those existing lines so you can roll back if you see a need to do so.
[17:11] <Nokaji> tomreyn: understood :)
[17:12] <Nokaji> oops, need to sudo gedit it so I can save ...
[17:15] <tomreyn> right
[17:15] <F4RR3LL> o7
[17:17] <pavlos> plut0: can you create another user, bob and try ?
[17:17] <Nokaji> tomreyn: Sorry, a bit slow here - have ade 'xenial-security' changes. Will now run "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade -V" if approrpriate
[17:18] <Nokaji> okay, got 0,0,0, on tat one ...
[17:18] <Nokaji> now purging, even if were on purpose ...
[17:19] <tomreyn> Nokaji: first you need to "sudo apt-get update"
[17:20] <tomreyn> Nokaji: only then, you can "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade -V"
[17:20] <Nokaji> tomreyn: okay, didn't quite hit the Y/n button .... only thing i see there I know I need is audacious but not as important as printer and can always reinstall and see if it was the issue
[17:21] <Nokaji> Ah, I see - we changed the root source for security updates ...
[17:21] <Nokaji> okie, purging ...
[17:22] <tomreyn> exactly :)
[17:23] <Nokaji> it's deleting some libre-office-minimiser and related (lib...) that I may have to reinstall fo' sure ...
[17:24] <tomreyn> Nokaji: this package did not have an installation candidate. in other words, you did not have an apt source configured for it, not as of today. which means, it will never get updates, including security updates.
[17:25] <tomreyn> Nokaji: that's what this forign_packages script determines, it lists you packages of 'unknown origin' which wont get updates
[17:25] <Nokaji> Ah, right ... libreoffice still opens just fine also so nothing major there, prolly nothing at all changed there
[17:25] <Nokaji> I see, okay ... trying the printer thing again, no obvius change, doesn't see local host etc
[17:26] <tomreyn> Nokaji: you should be able to 'sudo apt-get install cups' now, though
[17:26] <Nokaji> right!!!!
[17:26] <Nokaji> gonna try ...
[17:26] <tomreyn> and once that succeeds, the webpage should also work
[17:28] <Nokaji> tomreyn: the error on that looks similar to last time, I'll paste it up ...
[17:29] <Nokaji> tomreyn: Thank you so much for your time on this one, I now have - http://paste.ubuntu.com/25248480/
[17:31] <tomreyn> Nokaji: you did "apt-get update" before running this command, and no error was reported, right?
[17:31] <tomreyn> also no warnings
[17:31] <Nokaji> tomreyn: Someone once pointed out a web page they thought captured the problem with the updated and rolled-back file, lemme see if I can track it down in case it is of some help
[17:32] <tomreyn> Nokaji: no need, that's not the problem here (though i'd personally still be interested)
[17:32] <Nokaji> tomreyn: "sudo apt-get update
[17:32] <Nokaji> " yup
[17:32] <Nokaji> shall I re-run it to check for errors, I don't recall any
[17:33] <tomreyn> Nokaji: please do, it doesn't do bad.
[17:34] <tomreyn> are oyu in (or somewhat close to) great britain? i assume that's what GB in gb.archive.ubuntu.com stands for.
[17:34] <Nokaji> tomreyn: it ran fine, found another 300kb
[17:35] <Nokaji> reported back 'done'
[17:38] <tomreyn> !info cups xenial
[17:38] <tomreyn> !info libcups2 xenial
[17:40] <tomreyn> Nokaji: i must be missing something. can you post 'apt-cache policy' again, please?
[17:40] <Nokaji> tomreyn: This page show some more recent versions of CUPS, ie. 2.2.4 - https://www.cups.org/
[17:40] <Nokaji> sure ...
[17:41] <tomreyn> Nokaji: yes that's normal. you don't get to use the very latest software versions as packages in ubuntu. but they are packages, and they get backported security fixes. so you don't always get the very latest functionality, but it is stable, tested, and works (most of the time)
[17:41] <gde33> after electrolysis happened clicking on videos in firefox first became gradually slower in repsonse, now it just gets stuck in full screen
[17:42] <gde33> cant even close it anymore, window is not responding
[17:42] <W13> exit
[17:43] <tomreyn> Nokaji: also: apt-cache policy cups libcups2 libcupscgi1 libcupsmime1 libcupsppdc1 cups-core-drivers cups-daemon cups-ppdc printer-driver-gutenprint
[17:43] <Nokaji> tomreyn: https://paste.ubuntu.com/25248567/
[17:44] <Nokaji> tomreyn:  and https://paste.ubuntu.com/25248574/
[17:46] <Nokaji> tomreyn:  fair enough, was wondering if that was a cause of mismatched file versions but you would have said
[17:49] <tomreyn> Nokaji: sudo apt-get purge libcups2; sudo apt-get install cups
[17:49] <psychoticwarrior> hey
[17:50] <tomreyn> Nokaji: or i could have missed something important (but indeed i didn't, not int this case ;) )
[17:50] <Nokaji> :)
[17:51] <psychoticwarrior> make sure you edit <username> ALL ALL ALL ALL in /etc/sudoers
[17:51] <psychoticwarrior> its hard to explain over chat
[17:52] <tomreyn> gde33: such is almost always the result of interaction of browser add-ons (or plugins) with webpages embedding the video.
[17:52] <psychoticwarrior> useername ALL=(ALL:ALL) ALL
[17:52] <Nokaji> tomreyn: Looks a similar list ... - http://paste.ubuntu.com/25248615/
[17:53] <gde33> tomreyn: I dont think so, it does the same with a clean profile
[17:53] <tomreyn> psychoticwarrior: whom are you talking to there?
[17:53] <tomreyn> gde33: hmm okay, then indeed i dont know.
[17:53] <psychoticwarrior> im not sure i forgot just entered chat
[17:54] <tomreyn> Nokaji: i don't see the output of "sudo apt-get purge libcups2" there
[17:54] <gde33> tomreyn: I did hear others have the same issue of clicks on videos (specially youtube) taking 10-20 seconds to resolve
[17:54] <Nokaji> ... okie , lemme check
[17:54] <gde33> I'd hate to imagine what it is doing while that happens
[17:54] <tomreyn> gde33: doh, thats plenty, got an example video?
[17:55] <gde33> all of youtube has strange response times
[17:55] <gde33> it seems to start with 1-2 seconds and get slower while the session gets older
[17:56] <gde33> but increasingly so
[17:56] <tomreyn> hmm maybe you got some outdated libs
[17:57] <Nokaji> tomreyn: re-doing that line by itself here... http://paste.ubuntu.com/25248635/
[17:57] <gde33> ill try run update
[17:58] <tomreyn> Nokaji: would you mind purging gnuplot as well?
[17:59] <Nokaji> sure - it looks like it needs purging! - doubt I'll use it any time soon
[17:59] <tomreyn> Nokaji: or just remove it if you'd like to keep its configuration
[17:59] <tomreyn> Nokaji: purge is cleaner and prevents conflicts however
[17:59] <Nokaji> I'm not big on command line editing just yet - I'll do whatever is best here
[17:59] <tomreyn> esp. if you dont strictly need it
[18:00] <Nokaji> tomreyn: "sudo apt-get remove gnuplot" ?
[18:00] <tomreyn> Nokaji: remove or purge, yes
[18:00] <tomreyn> the rest is fine
[18:00] <Nokaji> it's gone
[18:00] <tomreyn> so try again
[18:01] <Nokaji> "sudo apt-get purge libcups2; sudo apt-get install cups" trying again ...
[18:01] <tomreyn> right
[18:01] <Nokaji> actually, I''ll do one command at a time
[18:02] <Nokaji> tomreyn: Holy shmoly! ...
[18:03] <tomreyn> ?
[18:03] <Nokaji> tomreyn: it wants to delete countless files and install countless files
[18:03] <Nokaji> "0 to upgrade, 34 to newly install, 540 to remove and 0 not to upgrade. Need to get 5,002 kB of archives. After this operation, 2,980 MB disk space will be freed."
[18:04] <Nokaji> tomreyn:  looks a bit excessive - asking me for a Y or N
[18:05] <tomreyn> Nokaji: hehe, can you cancel and run "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade -V" again and show it's output (again, don't confirm, yet)
[18:05] <tomreyn> it looks like you may have missed a lot of legitimate updates due to some outdated packages there.
[18:05] <Nokaji> sure tomr ...
[18:06] <Nokaji> oops , sure tomreyn
[18:07] <dmbpplvrywhr> having an issue where Ubuntu is not allowing me to proceed with /lib   mounted as a separate partition  (which as noted here, was possible at some point :  https://www.dell.com/support/article/ca/en/cabsdt1/sln152018/the-types-and-definitions-of-ubuntu-linux-partitions-and-directories-explained?lang=en  )
[18:07] <Nokaji> tomreyn: Here 'tis - http://paste.ubuntu.com/25248745/
[18:07] <dmbpplvrywhr> This is what I get :  https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/iYVGEJRI/image.png
[18:08] <Nokaji> 0,0,0 to install/remove
[18:09] <tomreyn> Nokaji: oh it's just suggesting that you remove the dependencies of audacious. i suggest you do so.
[18:09] <Ben64> dmbpplvrywhr: why do you need a /lib partition
[18:10] <dmbpplvrywhr> Ben64 -  segregation.  i have separate vm drive files for each partition.
[18:10] <tomreyn> Nokaji: so: sudo apt-get --purge autoremove
[18:10] <Ben64> dmbpplvrywhr: ok but why
[18:11] <Nokaji> okie, running "sudo apt-get purge libcups2" followed by "sudo apt-get install cups"
[18:11] <dmbpplvrywhr> -.-    why the why ?    lol
[18:11] <Ben64> because it doesn't make sense
[18:11] <Ben64> theres no reason to have 16 partitions
[18:11] <dmbpplvrywhr> it makes no more sense than having /opt/
[18:11] <Ben64> it makes much less sense than /opt
[18:11] <dmbpplvrywhr> or   /tmp/ and swap  --
[18:12] <Ben64> incorrect
[18:12] <dmbpplvrywhr> but in any case, i guess i am in the wrong place for a clear answer as to when this capability was removed ---
[18:12] <dmbpplvrywhr> it is good enterprise practice (not common) to have each mount on root as a separate partition
[18:13] <Ben64> trying to actually help you instead of answering a irrelevant question
[18:13] <Ben64> and no, it is not good practice
[18:13] <Nokaji> tomreyn: seems I didn't see your line above :) ... guess I can try that next
[18:13] <dmbpplvrywhr> why ?
[18:13] <Ben64> theres no point
[18:14] <dmbpplvrywhr> anything i say, you will simply say --- do it X way instead
[18:14] <Nokaji> tomreyn: Display has gone a tadweird around the edges, if I lose contact I may have to d a reboot - just the tabs buttons really at the moment ... lost a few proggies, no biggie
[18:14] <tomreyn> Nokaji: yes, and then it's  "sudo apt-get purge libcups2" followed by "sudo apt-get install cups"
[18:15] <dmbpplvrywhr> aka --  backup specific mounts .....  syncronization of drives as files ....     having 32 drive raid,  so if any mount point fails it fails on it's own and can be swapped out
[18:15] <Nokaji> okay, thanks again tomreyn
[18:15] <tomreyn> Nokaji: feel free to reboot any time
[18:15] <dmbpplvrywhr> why must lib    be part of /
[18:15] <Nokaji> sure ...
[18:16] <dmbpplvrywhr> i can't repalce my root drive now without replacing my libraries too ?
[18:16] <Ben64> right
[18:17] <dmbpplvrywhr> makes as much sense as distributing an outdated version of nodejs and then having core os packages depend on it ----   *cough* debian
[18:18] <Ben64> not really
[18:18] <dmbpplvrywhr> this was one of the cool things that linux could do -- i don't even see a patch where this capability was canned
[18:20] <dmbpplvrywhr> can you tell me this so i have no other suprises --- what other mounts must i combine with  /
[18:21] <Ben64> there might be a couple others, but just do the ones you need
[18:21] <Ben64> normally just /home ...
[18:21] <dmbpplvrywhr> lazy
[18:21] <dmbpplvrywhr> lol
[18:21] <Ben64> no
[18:22] <Ben64> it's how everyone else does it
[18:22] <Ben64> because it works and it's pointless to have a million mountpoints
[18:22] <dmbpplvrywhr> not everyone ---   majority ---  doesn't make it ok
[18:23] <dmbpplvrywhr> it's ok for simple systems ....  like monolithic kernels vs modular ....  why make it modular ?   because it's easier to make changes --
[18:23] <Ben64> theres no changes to be done to bits of the file system
[18:24] <dmbpplvrywhr> say i install a package that borks everything ... would i need to replace boot too ?  or,   just replace the drives affected with backups
[18:24] <Ben64> what?
[18:26] <dmbpplvrywhr> i don't see why i am being explicitly denied the ability to do something that linux is more than capable of handling
[18:26] <dmbpplvrywhr> by the installer -.-
[18:26] <dmbpplvrywhr> why block it completely ?    does it break it ?
[18:27] <quadruple> hi, I know there is some command to find files bigger than, e.g. 100M and add them to .gitignore. How can I find all huge files in all subdirs and then add them to gitignore?
[18:27] <Ben64> there still is no point
[18:27] <Ben64> dmbpplvrywhr: do it yourself after install if you care that much
[18:28] <Ben64> quadruple: "find -size +100M" then however gitignore works
[18:30] <dmbpplvrywhr> quadruple , if you already pushed a commit with then, then you will need to do a headless push and use a different command to strip the big files out, and re-push
[18:34] <dmbpplvrywhr> quadruple :  https://stackoverflow.com/a/2158271  ( remove files from repository )   ....   `find . -size +100M | cat >> .gitignore`
[18:37] <quadruple> dmbpplvrywhr, I was using exactly that command. Thought that I saw a directory (with a file > 100M) inside .gitignore before so I removed these lines
[18:38] <quadruple> I think it is working now. mby I am just too tired xD
[18:38] <quadruple> ty
[18:41] <dmbpplvrywhr> quadruple, reduce the size maybe, unless you want files 99M in size :)
[18:42] <quadruple> dmbpplvrywhr, nah, that's fine. github has this 100mb filesize rule...
[18:42] <dmbpplvrywhr> Ben64 - so the partitions I can no longer have separate from root (which before you could assign root like 100M, and mount separate drives which restricts the amount of bloat apps (and sysadmins) can do to /),    mounts you must have on the same drive now are :   `lib, lib64, bin, sbin, dev, etc`
[18:43] <dmbpplvrywhr> quadruple -  i didn't know that lol.
[18:44] <dmbpplvrywhr> apparently they have https://git-lfs.github.com/  for that
[18:46] <quadruple> dmbpplvrywhr, that looks nice
[18:46] <quadruple> thanks
[18:46] <dmbpplvrywhr> np. :)    it's not typical, but for those that prefer to do large file versioning the git way...  there is a way :)
[18:47] <dmbpplvrywhr> i find it annoying when i ask something that just because the majority doesn't do it that way ....  im given the first degree instead of a solution :S
[18:48] <dmbpplvrywhr> can you check what version of python is installed (as this has been typical for ages to have core packages dependent on it)  ---   im hoping it's at least 3.6
[18:49] <dmbpplvrywhr> debian 8 is 2.7 and can not be safely replaced
[18:49] <dmbpplvrywhr> have to run it in a container lol
[18:50] <dmbpplvrywhr> hoping this  `mini.iso` doesn't install anything to do with X or desktop.
[18:51] <dmbpplvrywhr> THANK YOU ---  for offering a selection to not install that garbage  :)
[18:51] <dmbpplvrywhr> +1
[19:46] <jasunto> when installing openvpn in ubuntu server, shouldnt it create another network intereface like tap or something?
[19:51] <BluesKaj> jasunto,  https://community.openvpn.net/openvpn/wiki/BridgingAndRouting
[19:53] <jasunto> check it out, it was never this complicated before, als had a guide to follow for ubuntu and fedora server, now building a VM again and cant find any good guides, its ubuntu server that boots and connects to PIA with openvpn and runs transmission
[19:53] <jasunto> check it out now*
[19:54] <BluesKaj> install network-manager-openvpn
[19:54] <jasunto> this is headless server edition
[19:54] <jasunto> thats for a desktop environment i beleive right?
[19:55] <jasunto> i have lo and eth0, would expect another interface
[19:55] <BluesKaj> well yes
[19:55] <jasunto> Ubuntu Server 17.04
[19:55] <jasunto> i never put a DE on a server
[19:56] <BluesKaj> i don't use network manager , i DL'd the .ovpn files and put them in /etc/openvpn
[19:56] <BluesKaj> jasunto, yeah i understand , my mistake
[19:56] <jasunto> yeah, i followed the guides exactly and public IP is still my home one
[19:58] <jasunto> downloads the ovpn and move to /etc/openvpn with file extension changed to conf, ca crt and ca pem moved over to same directory, edit US East.conf and point to login.conf for creds, did /etc/default/openvpn to auto start that connection, reboot and still have same public IP
[19:59] <BluesKaj> PIA assumes you're putting the vpn on  a pc not server, unless they have a guide for servers, but I haven't been on their site for a while
[20:00] <jasunto> last two i made i googled for a guide and found plenty, the worked first try
[20:00] <jasunto> now i cant find much, trying to piece together several guides
[20:00] <jasunto> i wish i had printed the old ones to pdf
[20:00] <BluesKaj> jasunto, also the lofin.txt file with your username and pw has to goto /etc/openvpn
[20:01] <BluesKaj> login.txt rather
[20:01] <jasunto> im wondering if my issue is because there isnt a vpn interface when running ip addr
[20:01] <jasunto> its there
[20:01] <jasunto> and reference in the auth user line of the connection
[20:02] <jasunto> let me connect it manually and check public IP
[20:04] <madLyfe> if i did git clone on a project, then followed the projects compile instructions, but now i want to change something in one of the files and need to recompile. can i do that?
[20:04] <jasunto> 400 ok for permission on that file, guide said that, im thinking only root needs read
[20:04] <madLyfe> or do i need to git clone to a new dir or something like that?
[20:04] <BluesKaj> jasunto, "sudo openvpn --config /etc/openvpn/Nameofvpnserver.ovpn --auth-user-pass /etc/openvpn/login.txt" this is the command I have in my bash-aliases file
[20:07] <jasunto> BluesKaj i may be getting close
[20:08] <jasunto> if i do ‘sudo openvpn US\ East.conf’ it gets all sorts of files do not exist, if i cd to /etc/openvpn and run same command it works and public IP changes, i need to see whats happening when init.d starts it
[20:09] <jasunto> this should log to /var/log/syslog right?
[20:13] <jasunto> BluesKaj - i think i need to give absolute paths to files referenced in configs, or somehow set /etc/openvpn as the working directory
[20:13] <BluesKaj> jasunto, it's  US East not US\ East
[20:13] <BluesKaj> US East.ovpn
[20:15] <BluesKaj> jasunto, using eth0  still ?
[20:17] <jasunto> linux you have to escape the space in paths
[20:17] <jasunto> i noticed it does add an adapter when connecting, goes away later after disconnect
[20:18] <jasunto> manual connect working, connect at boot not, probably not ubuntu related, going to check openvpn IRC
[20:20] <dmbpplvrywhr> i have a dream
[20:21] <dmbpplvrywhr> one day, we will be able to have a bare console installation ---  AND it will be able to render graphics and video and games without the overhead of a windows alternative like X
[20:21] <Zythyr> Need help. I downloaded a program called "composer.phar". I am suppose to move this to /usr/local/bin/composer. I don't have sufficent privelages. How can I run this program from my home dir?
[20:22] <dmbpplvrywhr> Zythyr      `sudo
[20:22] <jasunto> BluesKaj /etc/init.d/openvpn start prompts for what it looks like are ubuntu credentials
[20:22] <Zythyr> dmbpplvrywhr I can't sudo. I am not allowed to move to /usr/local/bin
[20:22] <dmbpplvrywhr> if you want, you can do this  ....    `sudo bash`        type your user password,  then  `passwd`    type a new password for root that you know,   and you can then do root operations as root :)
[20:23] <winem_> hi. just a quick q. I installed and removed (apt --purge remove) some software but the links in /etc/systemd/system were not deleted and caused a  failure when installing the same package again. am I wrong or is it worth a bug report to the maintainer?
[20:23] <dmbpplvrywhr> your user doesn't have `sudo` access ?      if this is your box, then that is a problem  lol
[20:23] <Zythyr> dmbpplvrywhr Not my box.
[20:24] <dmbpplvrywhr> well, the good news, is composer can be run from anywhere
[20:25] <dmbpplvrywhr> pop it in a folder, and set an alias in your .bashrc        `alias composer='/my/path/to/composer.phar`      and  `chmod +x  /my/path/to/composer.phar`    logout and back in,   good to go
[20:26] <dmbpplvrywhr> i do <3 these package managers for coders who are too lazy to include what their application requires lol
[20:26] <dmbpplvrywhr> gives the impression their application is only 100kb instead of 780 MB ...    XD
[20:27] <Zythyr> dmbpplvrywhr Thanks! I moved composer.phar to $HOME/bin/composer/composer.phar
[20:28] <dmbpplvrywhr> :)   another shortcut for $HOME  ---   is   `~`
[20:28] <dmbpplvrywhr> so  `cd ~/bin`  would take you to that directory
[20:29] <BluesKaj> jasunto, /etc/init.d/openvpn ? aren't you using systemd convention?
[20:30] <plut0> Just upgraded to 16.04, I'm unable to login now. Getting kicked out right after I login, looks like X is crashing. I see this error message in lightdm.log. CRITICAL: session_get_login1_session_id: assertion 'session != NULL' failed
[20:31] <dmbpplvrywhr> jasunto -- are you trying to start the application as a service ... or use it as a client to connect ?
[20:32] <jasunto> service
[20:32] <jasunto> connect at boot
[20:33] <jasunto> these guides show init.d
[20:33] <jasunto> i know that ubuntu was moving away from that
[20:33] <Bashing-om> plut0: Do "you" have the authority to access your desktop ? At the login screen key combo ctl+alt+F1 to gain a console . what shows ' ls -al .ICEauthority .Xauthority ' ?
[20:33] <BluesKaj> which ubuntu version , jasunto?
[20:34] <jasunto> 17.04 server
[20:34] <F4RR3LL> :>
[20:34] <dmbpplvrywhr> this is a bit dated, but should be helpful as it is fairly thorough and given that openvpn hasn't really advanced :  https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/how-to-set-up-an-openvpn-server-on-ubuntu-16-04
[20:34] <jasunto> not a server, client
[20:34] <BluesKaj> yeah that's gotta be systemd which doesn't use init afaik , jasunto
[20:34] <plut0> .Xauthority and .ICEauthority is owned by me, 664.
[20:34] <jasunto> boot up, openvpn client to PIA, transmission-cli
[20:35] <dmbpplvrywhr> ok, as a client,    it should be in bin folder ... just type  `openvpn --connect` or whatever
[20:35] <jasunto> works manually, needs to connect on boot, only connects manually
[20:35] <BluesKaj> anyway I have to go jasunto ..later, hope you get it sorted out
[20:35] <plut0> Bashing-om: looks like it's kicking out of the root user as well
[20:35] <Bashing-om> plut0: Gppd deal ! Next is what shows ' sudo lshw -C display ' , is the hardware seen and a driver loaded ?
[20:36] <Bashing-om> good*
[20:36] <dmbpplvrywhr> jasurito -- do you have access to modify the startup ?  also, you need to set it to use the ovpn profile
[20:36] <plut0> Bashing-om: https://pastebin.com/Edn5c3np
[20:39] <Bashing-om> plut0: so much for that thought . nvidia driver is loaded . which one ? ' dpkg -l | grep -i nvidia ' .
[20:41] <plut0> Bashing-om: looks like it's the xorg.conf config
[20:42] <plut0> Bashing-om: i removed it and i was able to login
[20:43] <jasunto> i followed a guide, i have sudo rights
[20:44] <jasunto> it is set
[20:44] <Bashing-om> plut0: What is the machine specs ? laptop ? hybrid graphics (not, per lshw -C display ) .
[20:44] <unicornjedi> What is the best way to take system snapshots in ubuntu? Should I use dd
[20:44] <plut0> Bashing-om: custom build desktop/server from years ago
[20:45] <Bashing-om> plut0: K; now-a-days with DKMS most times the xorg.conf config is depreciated and not needed or used .
[20:46] <plut0> Bashing-om: i might still need to tweak it though since it's connected to a tv, i used it as a dvr
[20:47] <Bashing-om> plut0: Yeah . with a TV for a monitor . you might have to have a config file :(
[20:48] <plut0> Bashing-om: what could be causing the crash?
[20:48] <plut0> Bashing-om: even the default isn't working when I generate it with Xorg
[20:50] <Bashing-om> plut0: I can only hazard a guess . But X goes nuts trying to interface with the TV - no EDID info ?
[20:53] <dmbpplvrywhr> :S ...  php7 is installed, which is super cool, but i need php 5.6,   is there a native package that supports the install of this ?   or is it a ppa from some random (many different ones)  online ?
[20:58] <Bashing-om> plut0: What graphic's driver ? Still want a recent driver for that card .
[21:06] <plut0> Bashing-om: nvidia 375
[21:06] <plut0> next problems, X is loading with no window manager, where is that configured?
[21:06] <plut0> and i have no sound
[21:11] <Bashing-om> plut0: 375 is good . What is the desktop we are working with here ?
[21:12] <plut0> Bashing-om: i have menus along the top for folder management but that's it
[21:12] <plut0> Bashing-om: i don't see Unity
[21:12] <Bashing-om> plut0: unity . so what release ? makes a difference if upstart or systemd .
[21:13] <plut0> 16.04
[21:15] <Bashing-om> plut0: Not real sure with systemd (16.04) .. but try ' gsettings set org.gnome.desktop.background show-desktop-icons true ' .
[21:16] <plut0> Bashing-om: i renamed .config and .cache, that seemed to fix it
[21:17] <minimec> plut0: Maybe try to reset unity to its default settings... in a terminal 'dconf reset -f /org/compiz/' then 'setsid unity' --> https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2321539
[21:18] <minimec> plut0: Oh... I see you managed it already...
[21:18] <plut0> ok that's fixed
[21:18] <plut0> now i gotta fix my sound
[21:19] <Bashing-om> !sound | plut0
[21:21] <plut0> well that was easy, just opening the sound preferences fixed it
[21:21] <minimec> plut0: Do you want 'sound through HDMI' with that nvidia driver or do you use the internal soundcard?
[21:21] <minimec> plut0: Again... I am late... ;)
[21:22] <Bashing-om> minimec: It's the thought that counts :)
[21:22] <minimec> Bashing-om: ;)
[21:23] <plut0> thanks for the help guys, you rock
[21:23] <hfp> Hi, I'm having some trouble with my network configuration on Ubuntu server 16.04.2. I am running a few kvm/qemu virtual machines over a bridge, and they can't get their own IP via DHCP anymore. Where should I start troubleshooting?
[21:24] <hfp> The server itself gets an IP, I can reach it, and it can reach the internet.
[21:26] <Bashing-om> plut0: Awww shucks, I just held your hand, you did all the work .
[21:53] <horny-sama> https://paste.fedoraproject.org/paste/Fgwk-34yv16YtHsiCexB~A <---everytime I do sudo apt-get update
[21:54] <horny-sama> I don't know why I am getting this error
[21:55] <tomreyn> horny-sama: have you ever tried doing what the message suggests?
[21:55] <tomreyn> sudo apt-get reinstall passwd
[21:55] <minimec> horny-sama: try 'sudo apt install --reinstall passwd'
[21:55] <tomreyn> actually this ^ right
[21:55] <Len> broken passwd... lol
[21:57] <kk4ewt> horny-sama,  uname -r
[21:58] <horny-sama> I don't know why everytime I do sudo apt-get -y upgrade I am getting this error https://paste.fedoraproject.org/paste/Fgwk-34yv16YtHsiCexB~A
[21:58] <Len> ...
[21:58] <Len> horny-sama: http://lmgtfy.com/?iie=1&q=package+is+in+a+very+bad+inconsistent+state solution for your problem
[22:00] <tomreyn> Len: please don't
[22:00] <minimec> horny-sama: I would first try to 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure paaswd'. If that doesn't work, try 'sudo apt install --reinstall passwd'
[22:02] <horny-sama> minimec: try both approach already https://paste.fedoraproject.org/paste/h-1~xhAK0BzS9WvzURoJPw
[22:03] <minimec> horny-sama: '/usr/sbin/dpkg-reconfigure: passwd' ;) not paaswd. Simply a typing error.
[22:05] <tomreyn> bad connection eh
[22:05] <horny-sama> sorry my pc just keeps on blowing up on me
[22:05] <tomreyn> horny-sama: bad internet connection?
[22:05] <horny-sama> tomreyn: more than pc froze
[22:05] <tomreyn> oh, maybe time for a reinstall?
[22:06] <tomreyn> or at least stabilize it first
[22:06] <horny-sama> just reinstall to 17.04 yesterday
[22:06] <F4RR3LL> or build a powerful pc xD
[22:06] <tomreyn> that's a different issue than the passwd one
[22:06] <horny-sama> atm I move my desktop xubuntu installation to my laptopt
[22:06] <horny-sama> to syncing crypto wallet at skool
[22:06] <F4RR3LL> i got kali ;p
[22:07] <tomreyn> horny-sama: maybe run it form a live cd or something. we can't really help you if you get disconnected every 2 minutes
[22:07] <F4RR3LL> on my laptop
[22:09] <horny-sama> sudo apt install --reinstall passwd seems to work
[22:09] <horny-sama> hate bankdwidth cap in canada
[22:10] <Inferno_geek> Bandwidth?
[22:10] <F4RR3LL> xD
[22:11] <horny-sama> Inferno_geek: like if I go over 450gb per month I will get charged
[22:11] <horny-sama> by the isp
[22:11] <horny-sama> I mean my landlord will
[22:11] <horny-sama> and everyone gets pissy
[22:16] <Inferno_geek> Do you have public Wi-Fi near you? That is one of ways for downloading full collection of Bach's works. (That was an example of something heavy. )
[22:18] <horny-sama> Inferno_geek: I can go to coffee shops to sync my crypto wallet but I don't think that's wise since they are talking about 10k+ usd worth of goodies
[22:24] <horny-sama> no p2p in school so I can't sync my wallet there
[22:24] <horny-sama> but I can still sync ethereum
[22:30] <horny-sama> I guess I will use tor to sync
[22:32] <devslash> Bashing-om, hey are you here
[22:34] <devslash> im still having this video issue with the crash back to login with both 367 and 384 version of nvidia drivers
[22:35] <Inferno_geek> nomodeset did not helped you?
[22:36] <Bashing-om> devslash: What does X say ? cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log .
[22:37] <devslash> a lot of lines that say no input driver specified,  ignoring this device for different devices /dev/inputX where x is a nimber
[22:38] <devslash> it looks like it does log in because i see some of my apps for a second then it crashes back to the login
[22:39] <Bashing-om> devslash: Those are just advisories , not errors . show me the file and I see what I can read into it .
[22:39] <devslash> err sorry its /dev/input/eventX
[22:40] <venthe1650> Hello. I have two questions. 1. is it possible to join multiple channels? 2. Is there a voice recognition software for ubuntu that can be used offline and has an option to add my own scripts and commands. Thank you very much
[22:40] <devslash> Bashing-om https://termbin.com/tnqb
[22:40] <Bashing-om> devslash: reading.
[22:41] <devslash> ok
[22:42] <F4RR3LL> venthe1650: depends on what app u are using to connect to irc
[22:42] <F4RR3LL> every irc app can multichannel i think
[22:42] <devslash> hmm theres a message about failing to initialize nvidia kernel modules
[22:42] <venthe1650> im using web browser
[22:43] <venthe1650> opera to be precise
[22:43] <F4RR3LL> venthe1650: if u are on linux then dont use browsers to connect with irc
[22:43] <F4RR3LL> use terminal or gui app
[22:43] <Bashing-om> devslash: "(EE) NVIDIA: Failed to initialize the NVIDIA kernel module. Please see the ...." . Gow did you install the 384 version driver ? And we also need to get this system updated .
[22:44] <venthe1650> sounds ok. any recommendation when it comes to gui apps?
[22:44] <devslash> from apt-get
[22:44] <devslash> Bashing-om, you mean apt-get upgrade ? because i did that already
[22:45] <F4RR3LL> venthe1650: the best in my opinion is to use terminal. U can apt-get install irssi and it will install an irc app for u that u can use thru termina. Its what I am using right now
[22:45] <devslash> Bashing-om, apt-get install nvidia-384
[22:45] <F4RR3LL> irssi is very easy to use, documentations are very easy to understand. Its very handy, simple and nice on terminal :)
[22:46] <Bashing-om> !info nvidia-384 xenial | devslash
[22:46] <venthe1650> F4RR3LL:  Thank you I will give it a shot
[22:46] <F4RR3LL> venthe1650: I discovered irssi 3 days ago and I can tell u, its very simple, u dont even need an gui app
[22:46] <devslash> i added a repo
[22:46] <F4RR3LL> just irssi command on terminal and u can join any server node
[22:47] <Bashing-om> devslash: ^^ I ask again , how did you install the driver as it is not in the repo . My wires were crossed as you are current .
[22:47] <F4RR3LL> on freenode registration i required
[22:47] <devslash> Bashing-om, http://tipsonubuntu.com/2017/07/25/nvidia-384-59-released-gt-1030-mx150-support/
[22:47] <F4RR3LL> venthe1650: alt+1,2,3,4,5 to switch thru windows (when using multiple channel)
[22:48] <F4RR3LL> when irssi open ofc
[22:48] <devslash> after adding the repo and doing update i did apt-get install nvidia-384
[22:48] <F4RR3LL> venthe1650:  basically when u join a channel, it open a new window and alt keys will allow u to switch between them
[22:48] <minimec> venthe1650: voice recognition... http://julius.osdn.jp/en_index.php https://packages.ubuntu.com/search?suite=all&section=all&arch=any&keywords=julius&searchon=names
[22:51] <Bashing-om> devslash: That PPA (our trusted PPA) will work . So what all is installed ? pastebin ' dpkg -l | grep -i nvidia ' . see where we go from here .
[22:52] <devslash> nvidia-384,nvidia-opencl-icd-384,nvidia-prime and nvidia-settings
[22:52] <devslash> version 384.59 to be exact
[22:52] <Bashing-om> devslash: I do want to see it in a pastbin to also see the versions .
[22:52] <venthe1650> F4RR3LL: How do I connect to freenode using my registered username? what is the command
[22:53] <venthe1650> minimec:  Thanks
[22:53] <devslash> Bashing-om https://termbin.com/3ssx
[22:53] <F4RR3LL> use the command: /connect freenode and then use /msg NickServ IDENTIFY nick password
[22:53] <devslash> by the way i havent heard the fans spin up so far in about 15-20 minutes
[22:53] <F4RR3LL> and then if u are identified u can use: /join #ubuntu to join the channel
[22:53] <F4RR3LL> or any channel u want
[22:54] <F4RR3LL> just read what it says :P and check documentations for simple commands
[22:55] <F4RR3LL> venthe1650: to join another server /connect server
[22:55] <me_> Test
[22:55] <Bashing-om> !info linux-image-generic zesty
[22:55] <devslash> Bashing-om, if it matters , i turned uefi back on
[22:57] <devslash> Bashing-om, ok ive solved the issue here
[22:58] <devslash> i disabled secure boot and now it doesnt crash back to the login screen. i found a page that confirmed that secure boot might prevent the nvidia drivers from loading
[22:58] <Bashing-om> devslash: ho Kay ! .. with EFI one also has to disable secure boot to install 3rd party software .
[22:58] <devslash> right i did disable it in order to install it but after a reboot i turned it back on
[22:59] <Bashing-om> devslash: Good then .
[22:59] <devslash> but its off now
[22:59] <devslash> secure boot i mean
[23:00] <Bashing-om> devslash: Done with installs, so you can turn secure boot back on .
[23:00] <devslash> no thats the problem. if i do it wont load the nvidia driver
[23:01] <devslash> im gonna test it again
[23:01] <devslash> just turned secure boot on and rebooted  and the problem is back
[23:02] <devslash> thanks for the help. problem solved
[23:04] <Bashing-om> devslash: K :)
[23:10] <venthe1650> I think i kinda figured out the basics of irssi but im not sure how to disable 'joined/quit' junk like in browser
[23:13] <minimec> venthe1650: /ignore JOINS PARTS QUITS
[23:14] <venthe1650> minimec: it still pops up
[23:14] <Bashing-om> venthe1650: Ya need the channel  ? ' /ignore #channel JOINS QUITS .
[23:15] <nightwalkerkg> Hi, i have an older PC with integrated graphics. On all the latest distros i tried i had sub optimal UI experience, animations were laggy, some UI elements would bugout and glitch, etc, etc. AMD Catalyst is supported up to 15.04, is there any option to use it with some recent DE ?
[23:15] <nightwalkerkg> Note that i am running AMDGPU drivers now but my card is not supported with AMDGPU-PRO.
[23:15] <minimec> venthe1650: Hmm /ignore * JOINS PARTS QUITS should work fo all the channels
[23:16] <F4RR3LL> venthe1650: whats up
[23:17] <Inferno_geek> minimec: It gives me error: "Usage: /ignore [-lrcnpi] nick".
[23:18] <venthe1650> F4RR3LL: trying to deal with spam of quits etc. i think it wont appear thanks to minimec :)
[23:18] <Bashing-om> minimec: Yepper . venthe1650  in your status window (1) see what help says ' /help ignore ' .
[23:19] <venthe1650> i think its gone now thanks
[23:19] <F4RR3LL> venthe1650: what did u do?
[23:20] <F4RR3LL> to remove the spam quits
[23:20] <Jordan_U> nightwalkerkg: It's not worth it to try to get fglrx. fglrx wasn't good even when it was supported. Please pastebin the output of "lspci".
[23:20] <venthe1650> F4RR3LL: /ignore * JOINS PARTS QUITS i think this did the job
[23:21] <F4RR3LL> thx
[23:21] <nightwalkerkg> Jordan_U, sure thing. https://pastebin.com/skhR3T80
[23:22] <nightwalkerkg> It's an APU A10-5800k with HD7660D iGPU.
[23:24] <F4RR3LL> venthe1650: hah it didnt work
[23:24] <F4RR3LL> i set ignore on quit but still see
[23:24] <F4RR3LL> i forgot the asterix I think
[23:25] <tuhinkarmakar> The thumb button on my Logitech MX Master 2S simulates <CTRL>+<ALT>+<TAB> on Ubuntu (it's customizable on Windows). Can anybody tell me how I can disable this key simulation and use the button like a 10th button?
[23:26] <F4RR3LL> tuhinkarmakar: look at keyboard shortcut maybe?
[23:26] <F4RR3LL> u can customize key shortcuts
[23:30] <minimec> tuhinkarmakar: I use 'imwheel' for years. You can even define the button behaviour for individual software. So my mouse wheel for example will change volume for all my multimedia apps and so on. https://packages.ubuntu.com/search?suite=all&section=all&arch=any&keywords=imwheel&searchon=names
[23:33] <psychoticwarrior> wudu p
[23:33] <psychoticwarrior> wud up
[23:34] <tuhinkarmakar> F4RR3LL: I customized the other buttons with xbindkeys and xdotools. I want this button to "spread" the open windows. <CTRL>+<ALT>+<TAB> already has a bound shorcut (opens app switcher for all workspaces). I disabled the keyboard shortcut and re-bound to the spread shortcut it using ccsm. It worked... But pressing the button twice closed all windows and took me out of spread mode.
[23:36] <tuhinkarmakar> minimec: The issue is, Ubuntu doesn't recognize the button as a "button". xev and xinput test records keystrokes.
[23:40] <venthe1650> someone recommended me speech recognition for linux that works locally but I have ben messing around with irssi and lost the link. What was the program name?
[23:41] <tomreyn> venthe1650: check http://irclogs.ubuntu.com
[23:41] <minimec> venthe1650: 00:48       minimec : venthe1650: voice recognition... http://julius.osdn.jp/en_index.php
[23:41] <minimec>                       https://packages.ubuntu.com/search?suite=all&section=all&arch=any&keywords=julius&searchon=names
[23:44] <minimec> venthe1650: You also have the /lastlog command in irssi. Typing '/lastlog recognition' in this chnnel might have given you the answer. Use /lastlog -clear' to clear the lastlog output again.
[23:45] <venthe1650> minimec: thank you
[23:46] <psychoticwarrior> cd /var/log!
[23:55] <psychoticwarrior> lastlog is empty. why is that
[23:57] <cmanns> I told ubuntu installer to ignore the existing windows install/bootloader and installed it to its own USB drive. Instead it botched up my windows bootloader drive
[23:58] <psychoticwarrior> try running super grub 2 disk
[23:58] <cmanns> Also performance on USB 3.1 usb stick is terrible. I've seen upwards of 150mByte/sec yet took like 6 minutes to boot.
[23:58] <psychoticwarrior> try grub-install <dev>
[23:58] <psychoticwarrior> update-grub
[23:58] <psychoticwarrior> update-initramfs -u
[23:58] <cmanns> I can still boot windows
[23:58] <psychoticwarrior> ok
[23:59] <psychoticwarrior> download super grub 2 disk
[23:59] <psychoticwarrior> manually boot
[23:59] <cmanns> Now I have UEFI Windows boot loader, 3 ubuntu. The ubuntu bootloader picks up windows, but if I choose Windows boot loader windows boots fine. Just kinda ticked off it did this
[23:59] <psychoticwarrior> grub-install </dev>