[04:04] <Unit193> bluesabre: New policy, https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2017/08/msg00003.html
[15:07] <ali1234> nvm i think i found it
[16:55] <bluesabre> Unit193: won't be moving to statusnotifier without an indicator-sound replacement
[16:55] <Unit193> Why not?  But OK..
[16:56] <bluesabre> volume controls are important... mpris control is handy
[16:57] <bluesabre> but... I might have the mpris stuff ready today
[16:57] <bluesabre> tracking one more crash and another bug
[16:59] <Unit193> You know you can use sn-plug and indicator-sound, right?
[16:59] <bluesabre> oh?
[17:00] <bluesabre> indicator-messages as well?
[17:01] <Unit193> It's -application you can't use with sn-plugin.
[17:01] <bluesabre> so, things that use libappindicat*?
[17:02] <Unit193> You forgot sni-qt. :>
[17:02] <Unit193> (But yes.)
[17:02] <bluesabre> gotcha
[17:02] <bluesabre> how do I add -sound to it?
[17:03] <Unit193> You use xfce4-indicator-plugin.
[17:04] <bluesabre> ok, so sn grabs them first, and anything remaining goes to the indicator plugin?
[17:05] <Unit193> indicator-plugin displays a different type.  -application is what sn-plugin is.
[17:06] <bluesabre> I think I'm confused now, but I see that having both active I don't have double indicators
[17:07] <Unit193> Just make sure -application isn't running, sn-plugin is a bit more configurable than indicator-application (basically because you can only configure xfce4-indicator-plugin, which "displays" indicator-application.)
[17:12] <bluesabre> suppose we should start getting this into debian/ubuntu then
[17:17] <bluesabre> It's interesting seeing how different players implement mpris differently
[17:17] <bluesabre> and how some are very broken in different ways
[17:18] <Unit193> I mean, I did push it to pkg-xfce, just waiting now...We should push to Ubuntu otherwise though.
[17:18] <bluesabre> yeah
[17:18] <Unit193> Well, I mean if we're going to go with it, or offer it as an option.
[17:21] <bluesabre> I think it would be good to have
[17:24] <bluesabre> looks like the symbolic prev/play/next icons don't work so well with greybird
[17:26] <Unit193> But the real question, do they work in Numix? :P
[17:26] <bluesabre> yep
[17:27] <bluesabre> look really nice with Adwaita and Arc
[17:27] <Unit193> Meh.
[18:31] <ninetls> bluesabre: xfce4-indicator-plugin shows ubuntu indicator, such as indicator-application, indicator-sound, indicator-messages
[18:32] <ninetls> consider them as "subplugins" for panel
[18:32] <ninetls> sn-plugin is replacement for indicator-application "subplugin"
[18:32] <ninetls> while your patched pa-plugin will be replacement for indicator-sound "subplugin"
[23:55] <bluesabre> ninetls: gotcha, thanks!