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user|12465i seem to have borked my kubuntu 17.04 update00:32
valorieuser|12465: try `sudo apt install -f` in the commandline00:32
valoriewhere f=fix00:32
valorieperhaps something was incompletely downloaded00:33
valorieor so00:33
user|12465it tells me i have packages that i can autoremove, should i do that?00:34
user|12465the message i'm getting when i try to install kubuntu-desktop is about unmet dependencies00:34
user|12465things like "kubuntu-desktop: Depends breeze but it is not going to be installed ...."00:36
user|12465i assume this means that i have a package installed that isn't compatible, but i'm not sure how to find what package it is00:37
IrcsomeBot<acheronuk> did you have the backports ppa enabled for 16.10?00:46
IrcsomeBot<acheronuk> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ZestyZapus/ReleaseNotes/Kubuntu#Getting_Kubuntu_17.0400:46
user|12465i think that i purged them before updating00:47
user|12465when i trun ppa-purge now though00:48
user|12465i get00:48
user|12465PPA to be removed: kubuntu-ppa backports00:48
user|12465Warning: Could not find package list for PPA: kubuntu-ppa backports00:49
user|12465in my software sources, i see zesty-backports00:50
user|12465but i assume that is from after the upgrade00:51
IrcsomeBot<acheronuk> is zesty backports disabled?00:53
user|12465no00:54
IrcsomeBot<acheronuk> one option could be to enable it. update your sources (sudo apt-get update) then retry the upgrade00:55
user|12465it was already enabled, so i disabled it and tried, but no luck00:57
user|12465one of the things that is missing is breeze00:57
user|12465so if i try to install that00:57
user|12465i get that breeze depends on libkf5kcmutils500:58
IrcsomeBot<acheronuk> do-release-upgrade should disable ppa, so it shouldn't have been enabled unless you did it yourself00:59
user|12465so it sounds like what you're saying is that the problem i have is that i have some backport packages installed that are creating dependencies on packages that need to be removed01:01
user|12465is there someway to find all the dependencies of kubuntu-desktop, and then find the installed packages that are in conflict with any of those?01:02
user|12465some sort of dpkg magic?01:02
IrcsomeBot<acheronuk> that is one possible reason. packages from frameworks 5.34 from Yakkety backports may need downgrading to the 5.31 version in normal zesty if the ppa-purge you did before upgrading somehow missed some01:08
user|12465i tried tracing the libkf5kcmutils5 back farther01:10
user|12465that depends on01:10
user|12465"libkf5kcmutils-data (=5.31.0-ubuntu1) but 5.36.0-0ubuntu1~ubuntu16.04~ppa1 is to be installed"01:11
user|12465so i see a unbuntu16.04 in that, which looks questionable01:12
IrcsomeBot<acheronuk> that's a package from Xenial backports!01:14
user|12465the ! makes that sound bad01:15
user|12465apt-cache rdepends libkf5kcmutils-5.36.0-0ubuntu1~.... doesn't return anything01:17
user|12465do i have the syntax wrong?01:17
IrcsomeBot<acheronuk> well, it sounds like you have upgraded twice without removing the previous backports, or for some reason have the Xenail ppa enabled on a release it should never be on01:18
IrcsomeBot<acheronuk> afraid it's gone 2am here, so I ahve to go01:21
user|12465thanks for the help01:21
IrcsomeBot<acheronuk> that Xenial package version is less than a month old, so really it should never be available on a 16.10 box being updated to zesty. that it is says to me you have a muddle with wrong ppas added somewhere01:24
IrcsomeBot<acheronuk> no problem. hope you can sort it out without the pain of a fresh install!01:25
user|12465me too01:25
IrcsomeBot<acheronuk> a last resort could be to set in /etc/apt/preferences.d/downgrade … to http://paste.ubuntu.com/25260018/01:31
IrcsomeBot<acheronuk> replacing the url there with your mirror01:31
IrcsomeBot<acheronuk> that would make apt force all packages to the official zesty ones01:31
IrcsomeBot<acheronuk> then you remove that file again once fixed01:32
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sobersabrehi. I think my kde installation is missing some packages.05:26
sobersabreI used one of those 'how to install kde on ubuntu', and this is not good enough.05:26
sobersabresymptoms: when using mouse and pressing the left-bottom "K" menu, all works ok.05:26
sobersabrewhen trying to type in the names of the apps in there - 1st char gets printed, but next ones don't get printed.05:27
sobersabresymptom #2: cannot add google stuff via accounts05:27
sobersabrehelp would be appreciated.05:28
sobersabreof course by 'kde installation' I mean plasma desktop etc.05:29
sobersabrethis is of course a mix of user/admin questions.05:40
sobersabreb/c to make it work I'll probably need to do some admin tasks.05:40
sobersabremaybe a more concise question would be:05:43
sobersabremy searches are broken.05:43
sobersabreand my online accounts don't allow google05:43
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sobersabreI have tried going into settings and turning on/off various types of searches.05:46
sobersabreAlso, I see I have akonadi server running.05:46
sobersabreit is supposed to be searches/indexes server.05:46
sobersabrehow can I test it is doing what it is supposed to?05:47
sobersabremaybe it got stuck/corrupted?05:47
hateballsobersabre: akonadictl status05:49
hateballakonadictl -h, for other commands05:49
valoriesobersabre: if you think you are missing packages, try `sudo apt-get install -f`05:50
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valoriewhere f=fix05:50
valoriecan you explain where you are trying to add google accounts?05:51
* valorie has no problems with google accounts on either of my Kubuntu laptops05:51
sobersabreakonadi is running.05:52
sobersabrevalorie: apt-get install -f did nothing.05:53
valorieok, so you are missing no dependencies or other vital packages05:53
sobersabreI'm using gui, via KDE settings -> Personalization -> Online accounts05:53
valoriehuh, I've never used that05:54
valorieI think it's part of KDE-telepathy?05:54
sobersabrewhen I'm pressing '+', click on Google, I'm getting a dialog with error: There was an error while trying to process the request: userActionFinished error: 205:54
valorieafaik that is no longer maintained05:54
sobersabrevalorie: ok.05:54
sobersabrethen let's focus on searches only.05:55
valorietoo bad, it used to work great05:55
valorieall these sites have changed their APIs and it became impossible05:55
sobersabresearches valorie I don't want sites.05:56
sobersabreI'm talking about the freaking local applications.05:56
valoriesure05:56
sobersabreI don't want to search inside files. I want to use keyboard to launch things.05:56
sobersabrelike I do with all desktops.05:56
sobersabrenot keyboard shortcuts.05:57
sobersabreso is this feature known to be broken?05:57
valorieah, I think you want krunner05:57
valoriealt+f105:57
valorietype what you want,05:57
valorieusually it's at the top, and you can just hit return to launch05:57
sobersabrevalorie: 'krunner' is using the same input processing as 'K' menu. so it's also crippled.05:57
valorieyou may have to arrow down05:58
sobersabremaybe input processing is messed up?05:58
sobersabrevalorie, I am checking kde once in a while. initially, It worked.05:58
sobersabreI used to type in, and get completions. and if there were more than 1 results I'd arrow down and choose.05:58
valoriehmmm, it works well here in the newest alpha 205:59
sobersabrebut now I can type 1 character.05:59
sobersabrevalorie: don't you dare selling me alphas.05:59
sobersabremake stable work :)05:59
valoriewell, it did lose focus after the first letter05:59
valoriebut if I continued typing, it worked05:59
valorielet my try my LTS05:59
sobersabrevalorie: does not continue typing on my machine05:59
hateballsobersabre: if you want to disable file indexing, that's baloo and not akonadi05:59
sobersabrehateball: I want K menu and krunner to work.06:00
sobersabreI don't care about how.06:00
hateballalt+f2 -> baloo, first option, untick checkbox06:00
hateballsobersabre: oh krunner is broken for you?06:00
valoriekrunner working in 16.0406:01
sobersabrekrunner and K menu.06:02
valorienot even the losing focus06:02
sobersabrehateball: I've been grudging at KDE all this time.06:02
valoriealt+space work to pop it up as well, in both06:02
sobersabrejust think how amazingly bad it is...06:02
valoriehmmm, it seems amazingly good to me06:02
sobersabrevalorie: this is yet another very annoying thing to say :)06:03
sobersabreI mean 'works for me'06:03
valorieif you don't like the software, perhaps it's time to find something you like better06:03
hateballsobersabre: do you have the same issue with a fresh profile?06:03
sobersabrehateball: good point.06:03
sobersabrehateball: and do you mean by fresh user account?06:04
sobersabreor is there 'profile' concept for the same user?06:04
hateballsobersabre: I mean user account yes06:04
hateballit's probably something broken in your personal plasma config rather than systemwide breakage06:04
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sobersabrehateball: then maybe I should clean it the f*** up ?06:13
sobersabrelet me test.06:13
titikakahi, anybody knows if kubuntu's IM Contacts support pgp?06:25
valorietitikaka: the former IM client kde-telepathy is no longer maintained or supported06:28
valorieI'm not sure about the other choices06:28
valoriethere is Pidgin, Kopete, Bitlbee that I know of06:30
valoriesorry, heading to bed06:33
lordievaderGood morning07:19
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john85hi folks07:33
lordievadero/07:35
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m_veskovHello !10:52
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m_veskov_BGwave :)10:53
m_veskov_BGEi pedarugi kajete pone edno zdrasti10:54
m_veskov_BGDa vi go na4ukam do madete !!!10:55
hateballweird10:58
BluesKajHi folks11:48
john85hello12:02
BluesKajhi john8512:04
john85Hi again :)12:04
john85hows u?12:04
BluesKajfine thanks, and you?12:05
john85not so bad thanks12:05
john85have another minor issue though...i have a widget that I cant get rid of on my panel12:06
BluesKajok, in the system tray ?12:07
john85yep12:07
john85i added a system monitor12:07
john85last time this happened i just removed the whole panel and replaced it,   but i thought there has to be another way12:08
BluesKajclick on the add widgets triple dash icon, then pas th cursor over the widget and you should get apopup with a red X, click on the red X12:09
BluesKajpass the cursor12:10
john85done,  thanks :) i never would have thought to click on add widgets to remove them12:11
BluesKajyeah, it's one of those quirky things devs dream up :-)12:12
BluesKajsimple tho12:12
john85ye,  when you know how12:13
BluesKaji just add the system monitor from the menu/system to favs if I need to monitor something12:14
john85k12:15
john85what version of Kubuntu are you using BluesKaj?12:21
BluesKajjohn85, I'm on the devel 17.10 version12:22
john85does that have the option of the search and launch style desktop?12:22
BluesKajactually I'm on debian stretch atm , but I switch back and forth12:23
BluesKajhang oh , I'll brb12:23
john85ok12:23
BluesKajok, john51 could you repost your question12:27
BluesKajerr john8512:28
john85does your version have the option of a search and launch destop?12:28
BluesKajlike a different desktop backfrounds/wallpaper etc with differnt apps12:30
BluesKaj?12:30
john85one background,  but there is a search function and all there are icons for categories of apps (internet, office etc..),  and clicking on one will bring up all the apps in that category12:33
john85my typing is terrible12:33
lordievaderSearch and Lauch, now that is old. Haven't seen it in a while.12:34
lordievaderI suppose the Dashboard launcher is somewhat of a replacement.12:34
john85i quite like the look of it12:35
BluesKajthink only if you set up categorized apps in "activities" by creating a different activity for each category with related apps, but you don't need a search function for that12:36
lordievaderBluesKaj: This used to be a desktop option in KDE4 times. It would put a search bar on your desktop.12:38
BluesKajquick launch just launchess single apps altho you can drag or add as many apps into the launcher as you want12:38
BluesKajlordievader, never used the desktop search in kde412:39
lordievaderNow there are only two desktop types, `Desktop` and `Folder View`.12:39
john85ye,  i dont like folder view12:40
BluesKajdashboard launch is something i avoid , prefer to keep everything in the panel without a menu covering the whole desktop12:41
BluesKajactivities works but it's a bit of a of pita to setup12:42
BluesKajI preferred the virtual desktop pager above any other option, but now the separate background for each has been eliminated12:44
BluesKajbut I still use it12:44
john85its a matter of personal preference i suppose12:44
BluesKajyup, one has live with one's choices, we all have different tastes12:45
john85search and launch does obstuct my nice background...but i rarely see that anyway12:45
BluesKajthat's another option that was deleted from kde/plasma 5, or is it?12:47
lordievaderjohn51: The Krunner doesn't fit your needs?12:47
lordievaderBluesKaj: Never knew it was possible before.12:47
BluesKajyeah same here :-)12:48
john85sorry lordievader..got distracted12:54
john85whats Krunner?12:54
BluesKajalt+F2/runcommand12:56
john85i forgot i could have just typed krunner in to search12:56
lordievaderQuite useful for searching and launching applications ;)12:57
john85sorry i have to go guys...Im neglecting my duties12:59
john85speak again soon12:59
ray_Bonjsoir15:17
ray_qui et sous Vayager ??15:18
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oerheksray_, voyager linux? it is based on ubuntu, but not supported here, guess they have their own issues.15:26
ray_@oerheks THX15:27
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john85hey :)16:36
HeroYoojinxev doesn't show an input event for this one particular button on my laptop (it works for the others, and i took advantage of this to set up a custom terminal-launching shortcut with a special programmable key)16:42
HeroYoojinso, how can use a tool other than xev to show a button that doesn't show up on xev?16:43
HeroYoojinbtw, LOVE kubuntu.  i think it's my new favorite16:43
john85sorry I cant help you,  I'm new to Kubuntu myself, but stick around and I'm sure someone will be able to16:44
HeroYoojini'm gonna take this to #ubuntu since theres more people there.16:45
john85ok16:45
BluesKajheh, don't see him in #ubuntu ..he just quit irc16:57
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poloff17:23
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chris__hello everyone19:48
chris__i want to open a file i select in dolphin in a specific app via shortcut, but i don't know how to get the filename as an argument. is this possible?19:49
valoriechris__: I usually use krunner for that - alt + space, type the name of the file, and return20:12
benniihi20:14
benniiwhy there are only changelog and copyright files in the packages libnetfilter-queue1 and libnetfilter-queue-dev? (16.04)20:15
benniiwhere are the libraries? oO20:16
valoriebennii: not sure how many of the packagers are in this chan, so you might ask your question in #kubuntu-devel20:20
krytarikbennii: Look again.20:43
benniikrytarik: ?21:04
acheronukbennii: https://packages.ubuntu.com/xenial/amd64/libnetfilter-queue1/filelist21:10
acheronukand if i peek inside the deb file, they are there21:12
benniiacheronuk: yea, youre right.21:17
benniiomg, i looked at /usr/lib/libnetfilter-queue...21:17
acheronukah. that explains why you didn't didn't them21:20

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