[00:32] <user|12465> i seem to have borked my kubuntu 17.04 update
[00:32] <valorie> user|12465: try `sudo apt install -f` in the commandline
[00:32] <valorie> where f=fix
[00:33] <valorie> perhaps something was incompletely downloaded
[00:33] <valorie> or so
[00:34] <user|12465> it tells me i have packages that i can autoremove, should i do that?
[00:34] <user|12465> the message i'm getting when i try to install kubuntu-desktop is about unmet dependencies
[00:36] <user|12465> things like "kubuntu-desktop: Depends breeze but it is not going to be installed ...."
[00:37] <user|12465> i assume this means that i have a package installed that isn't compatible, but i'm not sure how to find what package it is
 did you have the backports ppa enabled for 16.10?
 https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ZestyZapus/ReleaseNotes/Kubuntu#Getting_Kubuntu_17.04
[00:47] <user|12465> i think that i purged them before updating
[00:48] <user|12465> when i trun ppa-purge now though
[00:48] <user|12465> i get
[00:48] <user|12465> PPA to be removed: kubuntu-ppa backports
[00:49] <user|12465> Warning: Could not find package list for PPA: kubuntu-ppa backports
[00:50] <user|12465> in my software sources, i see zesty-backports
[00:51] <user|12465> but i assume that is from after the upgrade
 is zesty backports disabled?
[00:54] <user|12465> no
 one option could be to enable it. update your sources (sudo apt-get update) then retry the upgrade
[00:57] <user|12465> it was already enabled, so i disabled it and tried, but no luck
[00:57] <user|12465> one of the things that is missing is breeze
[00:57] <user|12465> so if i try to install that
[00:58] <user|12465> i get that breeze depends on libkf5kcmutils5
 do-release-upgrade should disable ppa, so it shouldn't have been enabled unless you did it yourself
[01:01] <user|12465> so it sounds like what you're saying is that the problem i have is that i have some backport packages installed that are creating dependencies on packages that need to be removed
[01:02] <user|12465> is there someway to find all the dependencies of kubuntu-desktop, and then find the installed packages that are in conflict with any of those?
[01:02] <user|12465> some sort of dpkg magic?
 that is one possible reason. packages from frameworks 5.34 from Yakkety backports may need downgrading to the 5.31 version in normal zesty if the ppa-purge you did before upgrading somehow missed some
[01:10] <user|12465> i tried tracing the libkf5kcmutils5 back farther
[01:10] <user|12465> that depends on
[01:11] <user|12465> "libkf5kcmutils-data (=5.31.0-ubuntu1) but 5.36.0-0ubuntu1~ubuntu16.04~ppa1 is to be installed"
[01:12] <user|12465> so i see a unbuntu16.04 in that, which looks questionable
 that's a package from Xenial backports!
[01:15] <user|12465> the ! makes that sound bad
[01:17] <user|12465> apt-cache rdepends libkf5kcmutils-5.36.0-0ubuntu1~.... doesn't return anything
[01:17] <user|12465> do i have the syntax wrong?
 well, it sounds like you have upgraded twice without removing the previous backports, or for some reason have the Xenail ppa enabled on a release it should never be on
 afraid it's gone 2am here, so I ahve to go
[01:21] <user|12465> thanks for the help
 that Xenial package version is less than a month old, so really it should never be available on a 16.10 box being updated to zesty. that it is says to me you have a muddle with wrong ppas added somewhere
 no problem. hope you can sort it out without the pain of a fresh install!
[01:25] <user|12465> me too
 a last resort could be to set in /etc/apt/preferences.d/downgrade … to http://paste.ubuntu.com/25260018/
 replacing the url there with your mirror
 that would make apt force all packages to the official zesty ones
 then you remove that file again once fixed
[05:26] <sobersabre> hi. I think my kde installation is missing some packages.
[05:26] <sobersabre> I used one of those 'how to install kde on ubuntu', and this is not good enough.
[05:26] <sobersabre> symptoms: when using mouse and pressing the left-bottom "K" menu, all works ok.
[05:27] <sobersabre> when trying to type in the names of the apps in there - 1st char gets printed, but next ones don't get printed.
[05:27] <sobersabre> symptom #2: cannot add google stuff via accounts
[05:28] <sobersabre> help would be appreciated.
[05:29] <sobersabre> of course by 'kde installation' I mean plasma desktop etc.
[05:40] <sobersabre> this is of course a mix of user/admin questions.
[05:40] <sobersabre> b/c to make it work I'll probably need to do some admin tasks.
[05:43] <sobersabre> maybe a more concise question would be:
[05:43] <sobersabre> my searches are broken.
[05:43] <sobersabre> and my online accounts don't allow google
[05:46] <sobersabre> I have tried going into settings and turning on/off various types of searches.
[05:46] <sobersabre> Also, I see I have akonadi server running.
[05:46] <sobersabre> it is supposed to be searches/indexes server.
[05:47] <sobersabre> how can I test it is doing what it is supposed to?
[05:47] <sobersabre> maybe it got stuck/corrupted?
[05:49] <hateball> sobersabre: akonadictl status
[05:49] <hateball> akonadictl -h, for other commands
[05:50] <valorie> sobersabre: if you think you are missing packages, try `sudo apt-get install -f`
[05:50] <valorie> where f=fix
[05:51] <valorie> can you explain where you are trying to add google accounts?
[05:51]  * valorie has no problems with google accounts on either of my Kubuntu laptops
[05:52] <sobersabre> akonadi is running.
[05:53] <sobersabre> valorie: apt-get install -f did nothing.
[05:53] <valorie> ok, so you are missing no dependencies or other vital packages
[05:53] <sobersabre> I'm using gui, via KDE settings -> Personalization -> Online accounts
[05:54] <valorie> huh, I've never used that
[05:54] <valorie> I think it's part of KDE-telepathy?
[05:54] <sobersabre> when I'm pressing '+', click on Google, I'm getting a dialog with error: There was an error while trying to process the request: userActionFinished error: 2
[05:54] <valorie> afaik that is no longer maintained
[05:54] <sobersabre> valorie: ok.
[05:55] <sobersabre> then let's focus on searches only.
[05:55] <valorie> too bad, it used to work great
[05:55] <valorie> all these sites have changed their APIs and it became impossible
[05:56] <sobersabre> searches valorie I don't want sites.
[05:56] <sobersabre> I'm talking about the freaking local applications.
[05:56] <valorie> sure
[05:56] <sobersabre> I don't want to search inside files. I want to use keyboard to launch things.
[05:56] <sobersabre> like I do with all desktops.
[05:57] <sobersabre> not keyboard shortcuts.
[05:57] <sobersabre> so is this feature known to be broken?
[05:57] <valorie> ah, I think you want krunner
[05:57] <valorie> alt+f1
[05:57] <valorie> type what you want,
[05:57] <valorie> usually it's at the top, and you can just hit return to launch
[05:57] <sobersabre> valorie: 'krunner' is using the same input processing as 'K' menu. so it's also crippled.
[05:58] <valorie> you may have to arrow down
[05:58] <sobersabre> maybe input processing is messed up?
[05:58] <sobersabre> valorie, I am checking kde once in a while. initially, It worked.
[05:58] <sobersabre> I used to type in, and get completions. and if there were more than 1 results I'd arrow down and choose.
[05:59] <valorie> hmmm, it works well here in the newest alpha 2
[05:59] <sobersabre> but now I can type 1 character.
[05:59] <sobersabre> valorie: don't you dare selling me alphas.
[05:59] <sobersabre> make stable work :)
[05:59] <valorie> well, it did lose focus after the first letter
[05:59] <valorie> but if I continued typing, it worked
[05:59] <valorie> let my try my LTS
[05:59] <sobersabre> valorie: does not continue typing on my machine
[05:59] <hateball> sobersabre: if you want to disable file indexing, that's baloo and not akonadi
[06:00] <sobersabre> hateball: I want K menu and krunner to work.
[06:00] <sobersabre> I don't care about how.
[06:00] <hateball> alt+f2 -> baloo, first option, untick checkbox
[06:00] <hateball> sobersabre: oh krunner is broken for you?
[06:01] <valorie> krunner working in 16.04
[06:02] <sobersabre> krunner and K menu.
[06:02] <valorie> not even the losing focus
[06:02] <sobersabre> hateball: I've been grudging at KDE all this time.
[06:02] <valorie> alt+space work to pop it up as well, in both
[06:02] <sobersabre> just think how amazingly bad it is...
[06:02] <valorie> hmmm, it seems amazingly good to me
[06:03] <sobersabre> valorie: this is yet another very annoying thing to say :)
[06:03] <sobersabre> I mean 'works for me'
[06:03] <valorie> if you don't like the software, perhaps it's time to find something you like better
[06:03] <hateball> sobersabre: do you have the same issue with a fresh profile?
[06:03] <sobersabre> hateball: good point.
[06:04] <sobersabre> hateball: and do you mean by fresh user account?
[06:04] <sobersabre> or is there 'profile' concept for the same user?
[06:04] <hateball> sobersabre: I mean user account yes
[06:04] <hateball> it's probably something broken in your personal plasma config rather than systemwide breakage
[06:13] <sobersabre> hateball: then maybe I should clean it the f*** up ?
[06:13] <sobersabre> let me test.
[06:25] <titikaka> hi, anybody knows if kubuntu's IM Contacts support pgp?
[06:28] <valorie> titikaka: the former IM client kde-telepathy is no longer maintained or supported
[06:28] <valorie> I'm not sure about the other choices
[06:30] <valorie> there is Pidgin, Kopete, Bitlbee that I know of
[06:33] <valorie> sorry, heading to bed
[07:19] <lordievader> Good morning
[07:33] <john85> hi folks
[07:35] <lordievader> o/
[10:52] <m_veskov> Hello !
[10:53] <m_veskov_BG> wave :)
[10:54] <m_veskov_BG> Ei pedarugi kajete pone edno zdrasti
[10:55] <m_veskov_BG> Da vi go na4ukam do madete !!!
[10:58] <hateball> weird
[11:48] <BluesKaj> Hi folks
[12:02] <john85> hello
[12:04] <BluesKaj> hi john85
[12:04] <john85> Hi again :)
[12:04] <john85> hows u?
[12:05] <BluesKaj> fine thanks, and you?
[12:05] <john85> not so bad thanks
[12:06] <john85> have another minor issue though...i have a widget that I cant get rid of on my panel
[12:07] <BluesKaj> ok, in the system tray ?
[12:07] <john85> yep
[12:07] <john85> i added a system monitor
[12:08] <john85> last time this happened i just removed the whole panel and replaced it,   but i thought there has to be another way
[12:09] <BluesKaj> click on the add widgets triple dash icon, then pas th cursor over the widget and you should get apopup with a red X, click on the red X
[12:10] <BluesKaj> pass the cursor
[12:11] <john85> done,  thanks :) i never would have thought to click on add widgets to remove them
[12:12] <BluesKaj> yeah, it's one of those quirky things devs dream up :-)
[12:12] <BluesKaj> simple tho
[12:13] <john85> ye,  when you know how
[12:14] <BluesKaj> i just add the system monitor from the menu/system to favs if I need to monitor something
[12:15] <john85> k
[12:21] <john85> what version of Kubuntu are you using BluesKaj?
[12:22] <BluesKaj> john85, I'm on the devel 17.10 version
[12:22] <john85> does that have the option of the search and launch style desktop?
[12:23] <BluesKaj> actually I'm on debian stretch atm , but I switch back and forth
[12:23] <BluesKaj> hang oh , I'll brb
[12:23] <john85> ok
[12:27] <BluesKaj> ok, john51 could you repost your question
[12:28] <BluesKaj> err john85
[12:28] <john85> does your version have the option of a search and launch destop?
[12:30] <BluesKaj> like a different desktop backfrounds/wallpaper etc with differnt apps
[12:30] <BluesKaj> ?
[12:33] <john85> one background,  but there is a search function and all there are icons for categories of apps (internet, office etc..),  and clicking on one will bring up all the apps in that category
[12:33] <john85> my typing is terrible
[12:34] <lordievader> Search and Lauch, now that is old. Haven't seen it in a while.
[12:34] <lordievader> I suppose the Dashboard launcher is somewhat of a replacement.
[12:35] <john85> i quite like the look of it
[12:36] <BluesKaj> think only if you set up categorized apps in "activities" by creating a different activity for each category with related apps, but you don't need a search function for that
[12:38] <lordievader> BluesKaj: This used to be a desktop option in KDE4 times. It would put a search bar on your desktop.
[12:38] <BluesKaj> quick launch just launchess single apps altho you can drag or add as many apps into the launcher as you want
[12:39] <BluesKaj> lordievader, never used the desktop search in kde4
[12:39] <lordievader> Now there are only two desktop types, `Desktop` and `Folder View`.
[12:40] <john85> ye,  i dont like folder view
[12:41] <BluesKaj> dashboard launch is something i avoid , prefer to keep everything in the panel without a menu covering the whole desktop
[12:42] <BluesKaj> activities works but it's a bit of a of pita to setup
[12:44] <BluesKaj> I preferred the virtual desktop pager above any other option, but now the separate background for each has been eliminated
[12:44] <BluesKaj> but I still use it
[12:44] <john85> its a matter of personal preference i suppose
[12:45] <BluesKaj> yup, one has live with one's choices, we all have different tastes
[12:45] <john85> search and launch does obstuct my nice background...but i rarely see that anyway
[12:47] <BluesKaj> that's another option that was deleted from kde/plasma 5, or is it?
[12:47] <lordievader> john51: The Krunner doesn't fit your needs?
[12:47] <lordievader> BluesKaj: Never knew it was possible before.
[12:48] <BluesKaj> yeah same here :-)
[12:54] <john85> sorry lordievader..got distracted
[12:54] <john85> whats Krunner?
[12:56] <BluesKaj> alt+F2/runcommand
[12:56] <john85> i forgot i could have just typed krunner in to search
[12:57] <lordievader> Quite useful for searching and launching applications ;)
[12:59] <john85> sorry i have to go guys...Im neglecting my duties
[12:59] <john85> speak again soon
[15:17] <ray_> Bonjsoir
[15:18] <ray_> qui et sous Vayager ??
[15:26] <oerheks> ray_, voyager linux? it is based on ubuntu, but not supported here, guess they have their own issues.
[15:27] <ray_> @oerheks THX
[16:36] <john85> hey :)
[16:42] <HeroYoojin> xev doesn't show an input event for this one particular button on my laptop (it works for the others, and i took advantage of this to set up a custom terminal-launching shortcut with a special programmable key)
[16:43] <HeroYoojin> so, how can use a tool other than xev to show a button that doesn't show up on xev?
[16:43] <HeroYoojin> btw, LOVE kubuntu.  i think it's my new favorite
[16:44] <john85> sorry I cant help you,  I'm new to Kubuntu myself, but stick around and I'm sure someone will be able to
[16:45] <HeroYoojin> i'm gonna take this to #ubuntu since theres more people there.
[16:45] <john85> ok
[16:57] <BluesKaj> heh, don't see him in #ubuntu ..he just quit irc
[17:23] <polo> ff
[19:48] <chris__> hello everyone
[19:49] <chris__> i want to open a file i select in dolphin in a specific app via shortcut, but i don't know how to get the filename as an argument. is this possible?
[20:12] <valorie> chris__: I usually use krunner for that - alt + space, type the name of the file, and return
[20:14] <bennii> hi
[20:15] <bennii> why there are only changelog and copyright files in the packages libnetfilter-queue1 and libnetfilter-queue-dev? (16.04)
[20:16] <bennii> where are the libraries? oO
[20:20] <valorie> bennii: not sure how many of the packagers are in this chan, so you might ask your question in #kubuntu-devel
[20:43] <krytarik> bennii: Look again.
[21:04] <bennii> krytarik: ?
[21:10] <acheronuk> bennii: https://packages.ubuntu.com/xenial/amd64/libnetfilter-queue1/filelist
[21:12] <acheronuk> and if i peek inside the deb file, they are there
[21:17] <bennii> acheronuk: yea, youre right.
[21:17] <bennii> omg, i looked at /usr/lib/libnetfilter-queue...
[21:20] <acheronuk> ah. that explains why you didn't didn't them