[02:44] <oerheks> yay, Joey used my tip :-) http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2017/08/fix-google-gpg-key-linux-repository-error
[02:44] <oerheks> but not the remove the old key part..
[02:48] <Bashing-om> oerheks: Need then to ping on Joey to finish the good work :D
[02:49] <oerheks> well, nomally one could revoke the key from sources menu
[02:50] <oerheks> but that apt command is fancy :-D
[02:50] <oerheks> .. and he did not mention that the key is revoked after 10 years
[02:51] <oerheks> ...which is a milestone
[02:53] <Bashing-om> oerheks: Let's face it -- oerheks does it better :)
[02:59] <oerheks> *everybody* does it better than oerheks
[02:59] <oerheks> :-D
[03:02] <Bashing-om> nooooo ........
[05:30] <Bashing-om> oerheks: is psychoticwarrior giving out bumm advise again ?
[06:43] <somesh> helloo, i was working with arp command but after some time it is cached and i do not see new updates.
[07:19] <lordievader> Good morning
[11:48] <BluesKaj> Hi folks
[11:57] <lordievader> Hey BluesKaj
[11:57] <lordievader> How are you doing?
[11:59] <BluesKaj> Hey lordievader, fine thanks, and you?
[11:59] <lordievader> Doing good here :)
[12:03] <ducasse> \o lordievader, BluesKaj
[12:03] <lordievader> Hey ducasse, how are you doing?
[12:03] <BluesKaj> o/ ducasse :-)
[12:04] <ducasse> ok, thanks - same with you i hope?
[12:24] <lordievader> Yes, I am doing allright.
[12:24] <lordievader> Do you use tmux a lot?
[12:25] <ducasse> lordievader: tmux, yes
[12:25] <lordievader> Then you might be interested in tmuxinator, makes static configs easy/
[12:26] <ducasse> i've noticed the package in the repos, never tried it.
[12:27] <lordievader> Lets you write a yaml config file on how the window and pane layout should be, what command should be running where, etc.
[12:27] <lordievader> For static-ish setups it seems quite useful, only started using it today ;)
[12:29] <ducasse> hmm, intersting :)
[12:29] <ducasse> "hi, i've deleted python and my system is borked"
[12:29] <ducasse> you don't say...
[12:32] <lordievader> Apt ain't python right? In gentoo you would have a problem, portage, the package manager, is python.
[12:32] <lordievader> Though, I suppose that if you run Gentoo you would be able to compile your own Python.
[12:33] <ducasse> not apt itself, afaik, but several of the apt-* tools are, i think.
[12:34] <ducasse> got it working again, but why do something like that (apt purge python) on a remote system with no snapshots/backups?
[12:35] <ducasse> i wonder what pacman is written in...
[12:38] <ducasse> c++, it seems
[12:51] <BluesKaj> heh, what about the guy who deleted /usr/lib and asked how to get it back ? :-)
[12:55] <ducasse> i remember him, this summer has been fun that way :)
[12:58] <lordievader> Nuking tar/ar is fun too :)
[12:59] <ducasse> my favorite is still libc, though :)
[13:03] <lordievader> Hahaha
[13:04] <lordievader> I did that once, wanted to downgrade libc for some reason.
[13:04] <lordievader> Believe it was a testbox, so I was like. Meh, worst that could happen is that it breaks.
[13:05] <ducasse> libpcre is also fun, amazing how much needs regular expressions :)
[13:06] <BluesKaj> I've deleted a whole dir wuth rm -rf while tryin to just remove a folder in the dir , with a slip of a finger on the KB
[13:07] <lordievader> Running 'rm -rf /' is so much fun. `ls`: `command 'ls' not found`.
[13:07] <BluesKaj> mucked up the test OS , but I have my /home dir backed up on the outboard drive
[14:33] <JanC> lordievader: unless you were running a shell with a built-in ls  :)
[15:06] <lordievader> True, I thought my shell didn't have it, last time I tried.
[15:28] <nicomachus> ugh. looks like Chrome screwed up their repo again. Pubkeys are bad.
[15:29] <oerheks> known issue nicomachus
[15:29] <oerheks> http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2017/08/fix-google-gpg-key-linux-repository-error
[15:29] <nicomachus> yea I know, they just seem to do it a lot. This is at least the 3rd occasion I remember.
[15:29] <nicomachus> in the last year.
[15:29] <oerheks> and to remove the key: sudo apt-key del 7FAC5991
[15:30] <oerheks> yeah,it happened before, key expired after 10 years?
[15:30] <JanC> well, what's the point of a signing key if you have to re-download it all the time?
[15:30] <oerheks> hmm.. they are hacked?
[15:30] <oerheks> :-D
[15:31] <JanC> if their servers are compromised the hacker could possibly have replaced that key file too, so...
[15:31] <JanC> is the key signed?
[15:32] <nicomachus> JanC: here's the warning: https://paste.ubuntu.com/25263594/
[15:33] <JanC> that doesn't say much about whether the key is signed  :)
[15:33] <oerheks> https://www.google.com/linuxrepositories/
[15:33] <nicomachus> oerheks: instead of deleting hte key, that omgubuntu article has me downloading a new one.
[15:34] <oerheks> that is oke, nicomachus , but the old key remains
[15:34] <oerheks> you can revoke it in sources, or this prof. command line
[15:35] <nicomachus> cool.
[15:36] <nicomachus> now to mess around with how to make gifs from this longggg video I have.
[15:38] <oerheks> hmmm .. http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2017/08/green-recorder-3-0-update
[15:40] <nicomachus> I think I'm just gonna snip the video down to a manageable size and use an online tool I'm familiar with. Imgur's Video to Gif or Gfycat.
[15:41] <nicomachus> but this looks interesting, oerheks
[15:42] <oerheks> yeah, i thought you were reading that already
[15:42] <nicomachus> I like the looks of Peek too
[15:43] <nicomachus> (linked in the article you posted: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2017/03/peek-gif-recorder-1-0-flatpak)
[15:44] <immu> yo
[15:45] <nicomachus> I do like that omgubuntu has started putting `apt` in their install instructions instead of `apt-get`.
[15:45] <nicomachus> They used to always say `apt-get update` then new line `apt-get install <package>`, but now they've started using `apt update && apt install <package>` which is just so much cleaner and better.
[15:47] <immu> nicomachus, yup
[15:47] <oerheks> i started to use apt full-upgrade standard, should write an alias for that
[15:48] <oerheks> sudo doitnow
[15:50] <immu> oerheks, lovely
[15:52] <oerheks> hi immu
[15:52] <immu> http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2017/08/ubuntu-moves-window-controls-right
[15:52] <immu> any comments
[15:53] <oerheks> the controls were static due to mir/unity8 development, i thinkit is oke to release that again
[15:58] <immu> they are moving back to right
[15:58] <oerheks> from apple-side to windows-side .. i hope gnome-tweak does give a choise
[16:02] <nicomachus> oerheks: gnome tweak doesn't give a choice, but dconf editor can be used to switch them to either side.
[16:02] <nicomachus> org > gnome > desktop > wm > preferences
[16:02] <oerheks> ah, the old way, ':close,minimize,maximize'
[16:03] <nicomachus> yep.
[16:03] <oerheks> or ':close,minimize,close,maximize,close' :-D
[16:03] <nicomachus> http://i.imgur.com/Kyyed5B.png
[16:04] <nicomachus> `button-layout`
[16:04] <nicomachus> that's mine denoting left buttons.
[16:05] <nicomachus> hmmm.... I'v lost ssh access to one of my home machines.... No route to host. that's not good.
[16:05] <nicomachus> I can reach one, but I can usually then kinda daisy-chain around the network. not working now.
[16:50] <nicomachus> "I'm running an outdated, unsupported version of Ubuntu. Lemme just paste my (root!) username and password into this publicly logged channel to try to fix it"
[16:50]  * nicomachus slams his head against his desk
[16:52] <oerheks> silly monday
[16:52] <nicomachus> I never could get hte hang of Mondays
[16:54] <DArqueBishop> With that simple of a password, chances are it was compromised well before now, especially if it was on a public IP.
[16:54] <nicomachus> ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
[16:54] <nicomachus> she couldn't connect over SSH, so hopefully no one else could either. ufw saves the day again.