[00:00] <dos000> and how doi start the 3rdparty drivers from the command line as well
[00:00] <dos000> i am using i3 as my shell
[00:03] <pconwell> Okay, figured it out (sort of). Seems to be an issue with installing the creators update. Used the AU iso and it seems to be working.
[00:29] <doug16k> my ctrl-alt-t doesn't focus the new terminal. it focuses some random other terminal and creates a new one too. anyone know why?
[00:32] <Tin_man> i think ctrl alt 'T' always brings up a new terminal. it does on mine anyway.
[00:32] <doug16k> it does on mine too, but it focuses some random terminal
[00:32] <doug16k> usually not the new one
[00:32] <Tin_man> ahh ok
[00:32] <Tin_man> mine does the new one.
[00:32] <doug16k> lucky you :)
[00:33] <B105PH3RE> anyone know how to start pidgin only in a xsession did a .desktop file for it with Exce=pidgin but I don't see it open up
[00:33] <Tin_man> i guess so, usually just have one open at a time.
[00:34] <Tin_man> have you tried restarting, maybe a glitch that restarting will cure.
[00:35] <doug16k> I think this is the same issue https://bugs.launchpad.net/terminator/+bug/1508531
[00:35] <doug16k> just found it :)
[00:38] <Tin_man> what version?
[00:38] <doug16k> this workaround fixes it: https://bugs.launchpad.net/terminator/+bug/1508531/comments/8
[00:39] <doug16k> 1.90
[00:39] <Tin_man> at least you found a fix.
[00:43] <psychoticwarrior> im having streaming problems with ubuntu and kali linux. youtube seems to freeze sometime
[00:45] <oerheks> psychoticwarrior, kali ?
[00:45] <psychoticwarrior> yea kali linux
[00:45] <psychoticwarrior> the distro
[00:46] <oerheks> oh, that is not supported here
[00:46] <psychoticwarrior> ok
[00:46] <psychoticwarrior> i need to figure out why ubuntu freezes
[00:46] <psychoticwarrior> with youtube
[00:46] <oerheks> mr hacker wants to see a youtube.. lolz .. kali is dabian based now, but seek help in their own channels
[00:46] <oerheks> !kali
[00:47] <psychoticwarrior> dont talk shit
[00:48] <psychoticwarrior> i know how to install and configure kali and ubuntu
[00:48] <psychoticwarrior> just need help with a driver problem
[00:48] <psychoticwarrior> and im not a hacjker
[00:48] <psychoticwarrior> hacker
[00:51] <psychoticwarrior> chromium seems to work really well
[00:52] <oerheks> oh then you fixed your own k̶a̶l̶i̶ ubuntu
[00:52] <psychoticwarrior> hopefully
[00:52] <azi`> when I try to install ubuntu alongside windows 7 it does not let me resize the corresponding partition. it says its used % is unknown
[00:52] <azi`> is there any known reason for this?
[00:52] <psychoticwarrior> always install windows before ubuntu
[00:53] <azi`> psychoticwarrior: windows is installed
[00:53] <psychoticwarrior> good
[00:53] <psychoticwarrior> thats a start
[00:53] <azi`> now I want to install ubuntu and it does not seem to be possible to resize windows
[00:53] <oerheks> azi`, only if windows 7 is on a disklocker drive, that cannot be changed AFAIK
[00:53] <azi`> oerheks: hm what does that mean
[00:53] <oerheks> err bitlocker
[00:53] <azi`> oerheks: if that is the case, is there a way to overcome it?
[00:54] <psychoticwarrior> why dont you try to resize the partitions using something else
[00:54] <psychoticwarrior> and try to resize windows and then install linux
[00:54] <psychoticwarrior> its hard to say cause i dont have it up on my screen
[00:55] <psychoticwarrior> what version of ubuntu
[00:55] <Bashing-om> azi`: Pastebin ' sudo fdisk -lu ' from the live installer ; let's see what we are working with .
[00:55] <oerheks> let windows resize itself, as advised in the wiki
[00:56] <azi`> oerheks: which wiki page?
[00:56] <oerheks> if it *is* bitlocker, it  takes the wole drive, no solution to that.
[00:56] <azi`> Bashing-om: this might take a while I am just in the process of downloading the latest ubuntu version
[00:56] <psychoticwarrior> have you ever messed with diskcryptor
[00:56] <oerheks> installing besies windows or something
[00:56] <azi`> in hope the installer can handle it
[00:57] <Bashing-om> azi`: K; we work at your pace :)
[00:57] <psychoticwarrior> just create a swap space and a / filesystem for ubuntu you'll be good :)
[00:58] <oerheks> 17.04 is one partition now, a swapfile instead of partition
[00:59] <Bashing-om> psychoticwarrior: Win7 likely is MBR partitoning, with the limitation of 4 primary partitions .
[01:01] <psychoticwarrior> for example i have 17.04 and I have triple boot system. I dont have a swap space for my system
[01:01] <psychoticwarrior> its hard for me to explain
[01:04] <unholymachine> how do i save a file in MS-ANSI/windows-1252 under linux? iconv is not working for me ... when i check the file with "file file.bat" it still says ASCII even after i convert it
[01:06] <psychoticwarrior> chromium seems to help
[01:46] <crc32> how do I get rid of /dev/md0 which is a raid 1 device thats spread across /dev/sda3 /dev/sdb3 /dev/sdc3
[01:48] <crc32> I've already stopped the raid device with mdadm -S /dev/md1 (Sorry this is actually about /dev/md1 and not /dev/md0) but when I try to "mdadm --remove /dev/md0" I still get the MD device in my /proc/mdstat
[01:48] <crc32> I'm on ubuntu 14.04
[01:52] <crc32> sorry I'm on ubuntu 17.04
[01:54] <psychoticwarrior> yes 17.04 is great
[01:54] <psychoticwarrior> did u resolve your issue
[01:55] <crc32> no. /dev/md1 just sticks around.
[01:55] <crc32> I can't get rid of it. Its like a curse
[01:55] <psychoticwarrior> sucks
[01:55] <psychoticwarrior> dont know how to telp
[01:55] <psychoticwarrior> help
[01:56] <crc32> rebooting. :(
[01:56] <psychoticwarrior> yea try that
[01:57] <someone_> Hi , I'm using ubuntu and I removed folder .mozilla from my home by mistake and my bookmark has been removed, Is there any solution for that ?
[01:59] <crc32> oh well. At least /dev/md1 says inactive. :/
[01:59] <bex> any ideas what a default login & Pw would be ?
[01:59] <crc32> last time I ever try raid0
[02:00] <bex> for ubuntu
[02:00] <bex> i tried ubuntu/ubuntu ubuntu/blank blank/blank
[02:00] <crc32> I didn't think ubuntu had default logins. It usually forces you to make a passwd when first installing it.
[02:00] <psychoticwarrior> passwd root <password>
[02:01] <psychoticwarrior> passwd <user> <password>
[02:01] <crc32> you can boot off a live disk then chroot to your ubuntu box then set the passwd
[02:01] <bex> i'm at the login screen though
[02:01] <bex> i had a password before but that one doesnt work
[02:02] <psychoticwarrior> boot into advanced options try at the end of the kernel live. init=/bin/bash ctrl x
[02:02] <psychoticwarrior> then type
[02:02] <crc32> err chrootto your ubuntu partition. If your logged in as root you won't need to enter a password. And since your disk isn't entcrypted booting off a live CD to edit yourbox should work.
[02:02] <psychoticwarrior> mount -rw -o remount /
[02:02] <psychoticwarrior> passwd <user>
[02:02] <psychoticwarrior> reboot
[02:03] <bex> yea i did advanced options, then some lowlatency recovery versino because i cant boot normally
[02:03] <psychoticwarrior> then ctrl x after init=/bin/bash
[02:03] <psychoticwarrior> ok so you cant boot normally now?
[02:03] <bex> no
[02:03] <psychoticwarrior> damn
[02:03] <bex> this is the first time i got to a login screen
[02:03] <psychoticwarrior> do you remember any passwords?
[02:03] <oerheks> try recovery and follow the guide to reset your password
[02:03] <bex> yes i saved them but they dont wokr
[02:03] <oerheks> !password
[02:04] <bex> ok ill try that
[02:05] <psychoticwarrior> yea edit your sudoers
[02:05] <psychoticwarrior> and edit it the same as root so you can run commands using sudo
[02:05] <oerheks> dumb advise
[02:05] <psychoticwarrior> not really
[02:05] <psychoticwarrior> your just on my case
[02:06] <psychoticwarrior> i have trouble explaining things. give me a break
[02:06] <crc32> Am I the only one that boots off a live CD then chroots to the ubuntu partition?
[02:06] <crc32> I've been doing it wrong the whole time?
[02:06] <psychoticwarrior> i dont use live discs
[02:06] <oerheks> please don't try to explain it, such fixes are not supported here in ubuntu, try you kali channel perhaps?
[02:06] <bex> what prompt am i entering this at? grub? it doesnt know the mount command
[02:06] <psychoticwarrior> shit
[02:07] <psychoticwarrior> cause mount -rw -o remount /
[02:07] <psychoticwarrior> would work
[02:07] <psychoticwarrior> what does it say
[02:07] <crc32> yea but as long as you can mount the ubuntu partition and boot into root on a live CD you can use "passwd". It sounds creepy that grub provides an option to just let you screw with the passwd directly.
[02:08] <oerheks> no, grub does not do that..
[02:08] <crc32> ok what is manageig this "boot advanced mode"?
[02:09] <psychoticwarrior> ok
[02:09] <psychoticwarrior> you may need super grub 2 disk
[02:09] <psychoticwarrior> then boot manually
[02:09] <psychoticwarrior> at the end of the linux kernel line type. init=/bin/bash
[02:09] <psychoticwarrior> once you get that
[02:09] <psychoticwarrior> mount -rw -o remount .
[02:09] <psychoticwarrior> mount -rw -o remount /
[02:10] <psychoticwarrior> then passwd <user>
[02:10] <psychoticwarrior> ctrl alt del
[02:10] <psychoticwarrior> reboot
[02:11] <bex> i'm still confused
[02:11] <psychoticwarrior> download super grub 2 disk
[02:11] <psychoticwarrior> imgburn
[02:11] <psychoticwarrior> burn disc
[02:11] <bex> wait
[02:11] <bex> i just hit enter this time
[02:11] <bex> and got root
[02:11] <psychoticwarrior> ok
[02:11] <psychoticwarrior> mount -rw -o remount /
[02:11] <psychoticwarrior> passwd <root>
[02:11] <crc32> see look how creepy that is. He didn't even need to break in with a live CD.
[02:12] <crc32> its like why have passwords. :)
[02:12] <psychoticwarrior> creepy stuff
[02:12] <Bashing-om> bex: Here are easy instructions to reset your password in Ubuntu: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/resetpassword
[02:12] <bex> i just did
[02:12] <crc32> tooless break in.
[02:12] <crc32> toolless I mean.
[02:12] <bex> i ddintg hve those options
[02:13] <oerheks> then use encryption, and this password reset is useless
[02:13] <psychoticwarrior> bex did you reset it using my advice?
[02:13] <crc32> yea I got that.
[02:13] <bex> no
[02:13] <bex> i mean a different way but yes
[02:13] <psychoticwarrior> ok
[02:14] <psychoticwarrior> init=/bin/bash
[02:14] <psychoticwarrior> works when you are completely screwed
[02:14] <bex> yea but i still dont know where i was supposed to put that
[02:14] <psychoticwarrior> you press e for edit
[02:14] <psychoticwarrior> at the boot screen
[02:14] <bex> ok
[02:15] <psychoticwarrior> then at the end of the kernel line type init=/bin/bash
[02:17] <crc32> what a fail. md1 is listed as inactive and I can't remove /dev/md1 so now I can't even reformat the partitions /dev/sdb3 and /dev/sda3 on it. How do I get rid of /dev/md1.
[02:17] <psychoticwarrior> rm -rf /dev/md1
[02:17] <psychoticwarrior> just a thought
[02:18] <psychoticwarrior> might screw up the system
[02:18] <crc32> yea I figured that which is why I didn't run it. Thanks for trying to expose me to that risk.
[02:18] <oerheks> unmount it first, perhaps? then remove from mdadm
[02:18] <crc32> its not mounted.
[02:19] <SomeDamnBody> I want to use an older version of the linux kernel than what I've got. How can I downgrade my kernel?
[02:19] <crc32> only /dev/md0 and /dev/md127 are mounted. /dev/md1 is like in pergatory or some wierd nonexistent yet still locking the 3rd partition on my drives for some reason
[02:20] <psychoticwarrior> sudo umount /dev/md1
[02:20] <psychoticwarrior> can you even get thru with that
[02:20] <dos000> i am trying to install the nvidia-384.59 on ubuntu 17.04 its asking if i need the 32 bit version
[02:20] <dos000> should i say yes or no ? i normally dont need 32 bit
[02:20] <crc32> umount: /dev/md1: not mounted
[02:21] <crc32> mkswap: cannot open /dev/sda3: Device or resource busy
[02:21] <crc32> how can I check what is holding that device open?
[02:23] <Bashing-om> dos000: 384 is late hardware is 64 bit unless you have some strong reason to even consider 32 bit .
[02:23] <dos000> Bashing-om: cool ... so i will say no. My hardware is nvidia gtx745 .. not too old not too new as well
[02:23] <doug16k> crc32, mount | grep md1
[02:24] <doug16k> probably already mounted
[02:24] <Bashing-om> dos000: How and why 384 ? that driver is in our trusted PPA .
[02:24] <doug16k> oh wait, umount. oops
[02:25] <doug16k> crc32, I'd grep mount for the device, and see the mount path then lsof | grep {the mount path}
[02:25] <psychoticwarrior> bex you can also bypass systems using init=/bin/bash
[02:25] <psychoticwarrior> same with your system
[02:25] <crc32> yea lsof shows nothing holding on to the device and neither does mount. its like the machine still thinks /dev/md1 is active
[02:25] <crc32> :/
[02:25] <Bashing-om> dos000: If OEM : " Note that many Linux distributions provide their own packages of the NVIDIA Linux Graphics Driver in the distribution's native package management format. This may interact better with the rest of your distribution's framework, and you may want to use this rather than NVIDIA's official package." .
[02:26] <dos000> Bashing-om: i downloaded the nvidia driver from the nvidia web site
[02:27] <dos000> Bashing-om: i am out of luck and out of X for now .. i am loggin in from my laptop here
[02:27] <dos000> Bashing-om: i will try installing the driver from the ppa
[02:28] <dos000> Bashing-om: whats the command line to start the additional drivers from the command line ?
[02:28] <dos000> :/start/select/
[02:29] <psychoticwarrior> systemctl
[02:29] <psychoticwarrior> or /etc/init.d/
[02:29] <oerheks> sudo ubuntu-drivers autoinstall # and reboot
[02:29] <Bashing-om> Did you install ' https://launchpad.net/~graphics-drivers/+archive/ubuntu/ppa ' ? then it is ' sudo apt update ; sudo ubuntu-drivers autoinstall ' .
[02:30] <bex> if im missing hte /lib/modules directory, is there a way to fix that
[02:30] <psychoticwarrior> what happened to it bex
[02:30] <bex> i dont know
[02:31] <crc32> ok its gone. Not sure what killed it.
[02:32] <psychoticwarrior> not sure how you would fix /lib/modules
[02:35] <dos000> Bashing-om: i am getting some missed keys now when i do apt-get update https://pastebin.ubuntu.com/25260369/
[02:35] <Bashing-om> crc32: Might be interesting to see if 'sudo apt install --reinstall linux-image-extra-3.13.0-49 ' for eacj and every image that is /boot . Maybe ??
[02:35] <dos000> something in google chrome is messed up which is weird
[02:36] <Bashing-om> dos000: looking .
[02:37] <crc32> yea its like google keeps changing their keys or something. :/
[02:37] <dos000> weird !!!
[02:37] <psychoticwarrior> chromium works great
[02:37] <dos000> is this normal behaviour ?
[02:37] <crc32> unfgortunetly for google repos yea.
[02:38] <crc32> https://askubuntu.com/questions/943146/apt-update-error-an-error-occurred-during-the-signature-verification-chrome <-- you'll have to download their new signing key.
[02:38] <crc32> dos000^
[02:38] <Bashing-om> dos000: Google changed the key . readd it 'wget -q -O - https://dl.google.com/linux/linux_signing_key.pub | sudo apt-key add - ' . to remove the old key ' sudo apt-key del 7FAC5991 ' .
[02:39] <dos000> Bashing-om: thank you sir :)) thank you all :))
[02:40] <Bashing-om> dos000: Help is what we do :)
[02:40] <crc32> I still get warnings after installing the new key. :/
[02:43] <dos000> Bashing-om: happy to report .. may machine is back to normal and 384.59 is well installed :))
[02:44] <Bashing-om> dos000: Outstanding ! You do good work :)
[02:45] <dos000> great !!!
[02:46] <dos000> if i want to start the ubuntu settings from the command line what do i do ?
[02:47] <oerheks> dos000, just use the icon on your panel?
[02:48] <dos000> oerheks: i am using i3 as my shell :(
[02:50] <dos000> is this something that cant be done ? i looked around the interweb and cant find this answer
[02:51] <Bashing-om> dos000: Ya need X installed . then the terminal command ' nvidia-settings ' will launch .
[02:52] <dos000> yeah my X is good now since i rebooted .. and i have the latest drivers thanks to you
[02:53] <dos000> Bashing-om: i dont mean the nvidia settings .. the ubuntu settings one which is accessible from ubuntu top right corner
[02:54] <upm> doees ubuntu come with union or overlay2 filesystem support?
[02:54] <upm> 17.04*
[02:54] <upm> does*
[02:56] <upm> does overlay filesystem support binding and merging multiple directories into a single directory?
[03:01] <Bashing-om> dos000: Try ' unity-control-center ' .
[03:10] <Bashing-om> dos000: Did you not say you were running i3 as your manager ? 17.04 ?
[03:39] <polymathy> hi
[03:39] <reisio> ohio
[03:39] <polymathy> how do i upgrade to ubuntu 16.04lts thru terminal?
[03:39] <polymathy> from 14.04lts
[03:40] <bex> can someone tell me whats going on with my system and how to fix it? http://paste.ubuntu.com/25260701/
[03:41] <Bashing-om> polymathy: ' sudo apt update; sudo apt full-upgrade ; sudo do-release-upgrade ' .
[03:41] <wodencafe> polymathy: https://askubuntu.com/questions/125392/why-is-no-new-release-found-when-upgrading-from-a-lts-to-the-next
[03:41] <reisio> bex: you can tell us what's going on
[03:41] <polymathy> ty
[03:42] <polymathy> its sudo apt-get for ubuntu 14.04lts
[03:43] <polymathy> polymathy@linuxbox:~$ sudo apt full-upgrade
[03:43] <polymathy> Reading package lists... Done
[03:43] <polymathy> Building dependency tree
[03:43] <polymathy> Reading state information... Done
[03:43] <polymathy> Calculating upgrade... Done
[03:43] <polymathy> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[03:44] <bex> well it wont boot normally
[03:45] <reisio> bex: how does it not boot normally?
[03:45] <bex> i can only get into recovery mode
[03:45] <bex> but i'm not sure what to do now
[03:45] <wodencafe> can you resume a normal boot from within recovery mode?
[03:45] <reisio> bex: did something happen?
[03:47] <bex> my original error was "end kernel panic - not syncing VFS: unable to mount root fs on unknown-block"
[03:47] <polymathy> hi
[03:47] <reisio> bex: for a system that used to work fine in the past?
[03:47] <reisio> polymathy: hi
[03:48] <bex> yes
[03:48] <bex> i think i deleeted some initrd images from /boot/
[03:48] <leaftype> bex, you were here last night too. I thought we ended with you going to reinstall the OS
[03:49] <bex> i thought i made some breakthroughs
[03:49] <polymathy> https://paste.ubuntu.com/25260774/
[03:49] <reisio> usually that happens after a failed install, not just randomly
[03:49] <bex> i dont want to lose all my data if at all possible
[03:49] <bex> failed update maybe
[03:49] <reisio> IIRC, it could mean your fstab is misconfigured, or your kernel config (including your initrd)
[03:50] <reisio> bex: your data is probably fine, although that depends on the explanation for why your system has changed
[03:50] <reisio> bex: if you boot a live OS, that would confirm the former
[03:50] <bex> i did before
[03:50] <polymathy> https://paste.ubuntu.com/25260776/
[03:50] <bex> i think its still there
[03:50] <bex> i guess i can try moving the data if i have enough room on another hard drive
[03:51] <psychoticwarrior> bex did you figure out the boot?
[03:51] <psychoticwarrior> havent been paying attention
[03:51] <bex> not really
[03:51] <psychoticwarrior> hmm
[03:51] <psychoticwarrior> what was the problem again
[03:52] <bex> ok ill just try saving the data then
[03:52] <bex> and reinstall
[03:53] <unicornjedi> Is it wise to use duplicity for a bare-metal backup?
[03:53] <reisio> why wouldn't it be
[03:53] <leaftype> bex, From the recovery, you can access the original data via terminal, right?
[03:53] <polymathy> installing java 7 i think thats the problem
[03:53] <polymathy> https://paste.ubuntu.com/25260774/
[03:54] <leaftype> nvm, that's what I get for split attention, you just said that's what you're doin
[03:54] <reisio> bex: you don't need to move personal data
[03:54] <psychoticwarrior> what i do is update stuff on an external hd then reinstal
[03:54] <psychoticwarrior> reinstall
[03:54] <reisio> bex: even if you were to reinstall the OS, as long as you don't alter (destroy/reformat/etc.) the partitions and file systems, any personal data should endure
[03:55] <unicornjedi> reisio: If backup to an external hard-drive, would I be able to boot from that external hard drive?
[03:55] <Bashing-om> polymathy: "'main/binary-i38/Packages'" there is a typo in your sources.list file .
[03:56] <polymathy> oh
[03:56] <leaftype> unicornjedi, technically "it depends", but realistically "no"
[03:56] <polymathy> what do i do
[03:56] <polymathy> i386?
[03:56] <reisio> unicornjedi: if you had an OS on that drive
[03:56] <polymathy> isnt that install im amd
[03:57] <polymathy> intel
[03:57] <reisio> unicornjedi: you could first install an OS to that external, then move your personal data, if you wanted
[03:57] <reisio> I don't think that's what I would do in this situation _but_
[03:57] <reisio> it sounds like you don't already have any backup system
[03:57] <reisio> so _you_ should probably go ahead and make a backup
[03:57] <reisio> and since making a backup will also necessarily create a second copy of your personal data, you could kill two birds and reinstall an OS on that second drive
[03:58] <reisio> or, y'know, whoever has the problem
[03:58] <unicornjedi> lol
[03:58] <reisio> alternatively: don't talk for other people
[03:58] <Bashing-om> polymathy: Yeah i would think should be i386 . ' cat -n /etc/apt/sources.list ; tail -v -n +1 /etc/apt/sources.list.d/* ' .
[03:58] <polymathy> ty
[03:59] <unicornjedi> reisio: I have a complex set-up on my system... I configured it for PCI passthrough via OVMF and I wanted to clone it or use snapshots
[03:59] <polymathy> ubuntu paste?
[03:59] <Bashing-om> !paste | polymathy
[04:00] <reisio> unicornjedi: oh you're duplicity guy
[04:00] <polymathy> k
[04:00] <reisio> unicornjedi: duplicity looks fine compared to, for example, awful closed source and/or Windows software
[04:01] <reisio> my bar for backup software is rdiff-backup
[04:01] <polymathy> done what you said Bashing-om and now doing sudo apt-get update
[04:01] <polymathy> same error
[04:01] <reisio> which does incremental, deduplication, and uses deltas also for deduplication
[04:01] <upm> never upload to pastebin
[04:01] <reisio> any other open source, properly licensed software that does all that is probably okay by me
[04:01] <upm> it is limited in uploads per day]
[04:01] <upm> day*
[04:02] <unicornjedi> I can try rdiff-backup, it sounds effective at saving space
[04:02] <Bashing-om> polymathy: You could not have checked/fixed the typo that fast . there is an error somewhere in the sources file(s) that will have to be fixed .
[04:03] <reisio> for example, with rsnapshot if it found a file was changed, even if it was a huge multi-gig file, it'd copy a new copy of that file into your backup space, doubling the file space used to keep track of that data, at least
[04:03] <polymathy> Bashing-om, https://paste.ubuntu.com/25260810/
[04:03] <reisio> rdiff-backup would only keep the original copy & deltas (diffs) to be able to get the new version from the old
[04:04] <reisio> I've heard 'bup' and 'obnam' _might_ potentially work similarly
[04:04] <reisio> but not checked
[04:04] <unicornjedi> reisio: ah
[04:04] <polymathy> Bashing-om, https://paste.ubuntu.com/25260816/
[04:04] <unicornjedi> reisio: would it be easy to rollback to a restore point?
[04:04] <reisio> also not everybody needs incremental at all
[04:05] <polymathy> its java netbeans
[04:05] <reisio> unicornjedi: yes, there's another app called rdiff-backup-fs which cascades all the snapshots into a virtual timestamped directory hierarchy
[04:05] <reisio> wherein they just act like ordinary directories of your data
[04:05] <reisio> but again, not everyone even needs incremental
[04:05] <polymathy> how i remove em
[04:05] <reisio> if you want to guard against losing a day's worth of data, for example
[04:05] <reisio> you can just rsync once every 24 hours
[04:06] <reisio> and keep a 1:1 backup
[04:06] <polymathy> doing this Bashing-om https://askubuntu.com/questions/76908/how-to-uninstall-netbeans
[04:08] <unicornjedi> reisio: okay, I'll install rdiff-backup.. I might need some help with it :P  I'll read the man pages first so I won't drive you crazy with questions
[04:09] <reisio> unicornjedi: it's so crazy straightforward: rdiff-backup backup-source/path backup-destination/path, IIRC
[04:09] <reisio> unicornjedi: https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Rdiff-backup
[04:09] <reisio> https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Rdiff-backup#Usage rather
[04:10] <polymathy> Bashing-om, how do i find out which netbeans
[04:10] <polymathy>  cd /usr/local/netbeans-x.x
[04:10] <reisio> it's very rsync-like (and derived), and generally straightforward & lovely
[04:11] <upm> does /var/crash get erased on reboot?
[04:13] <Bashing-om> polymathy: what returns ' dpkg --print-foreign-architectures ' ?
[04:14] <Bashing-om> polymathy: Netbeans is valid . not to worried about it at this time .
[04:14] <polymathy> k
[04:14] <upm> is there any way to make data accessable to all users wich persists across reboots and can be modified/created by any user?
[04:15] <polymathy> polymathy@linuxbox:~$ dpkg --print-foreign-architecture
[04:15] <polymathy> dpkg: error: unknown option --print-foreign-architecture
[04:15] <Bashing-om> polymathy: checking .
[04:16] <upm> that does not require root to initially create and setpermissions on the file/folder
[04:18] <Bashing-om> polymathy: command is valid as given you left off a final 's' . ' dpkg --print-foreign-architectures ' .
[04:18] <unicornjedi> brb reisio
[04:19] <upm> a fk it, ASSUMING you have root access, i recommend using http://bpaste.net/raw/882555d11e7f for pastes (curl http://bpaste.net/raw/882555d11e7f -o /usr/bin/wgetpaste ; chmod +X /usr/bin/wgetpaste ; wgetpaste --help)
[04:20] <reisio> pastebinit would probably suffice
[04:20] <upm> no it wont since it limits uploads to x amy per 24 hours
[04:20] <upm> x amount*
[04:22] <polymathy> Bashing-om,
[04:23] <polymathy> https://paste.ubuntu.com/25261035/
[04:26] <Bashing-om> polymathy: ' sudo dpkg --remove-architecture i38 ' then do it again ' sudo apt update ; sudo apt full-upgrade ' .
[04:27] <polymathy> ok ty
[04:28] <polymathy> working..
[04:28] <polymathy> updating
[04:28] <polymathy> no errors ty
[04:29] <polymathy> doesnt install upgrade
[04:30] <polymathy> forget it thank ill stay on 14.04lts
[04:30] <polymathy> thank you
[04:30] <Bashing-om> polymathy: Nope that is the ' sudo do-release-upgrade ' command - if you are ready .
[04:31] <polymathy> k
[04:31] <polymathy> its checking
[04:31] <polymathy> downloading
[04:32] <Bashing-om> polymathy: 14.04 is good . has suport 'til 2019 :) /
[04:32] <polymathy> it started with me updating hexchat
[04:32] <polymathy> stay 14?
[04:33] <polymathy> say to continue press enter
[04:33] <Bashing-om> polymathy: If you have pulled the trigger on do-release , best to let it upgrade .
[04:33] <polymathy> ok
[04:33] <polymathy> working..
[04:34] <Bashing-om> polymathy: But if ya have no need .. why upgrade to 16.04 .. with all the headaches to learn systemd ?
[04:35] <polymathy> too late lol
[04:35] <polymathy> its asking me to continue
[04:35] <polymathy> says it can take hours
[04:36] <polymathy> im choosing n
[04:36] <Bashing-om> polymathy: At this point you can decline . up to you what you want to do .
[04:37] <polymathy> i cancel thank you
[04:37] <polymathy> bye XD
[04:45] <unicornjedi> wtf, why can't I create directories in my external hard drives
[04:47] <unicornjedi> it happened after I ran duplicity
[04:47] <unicornjedi> :/
[04:47] <Bashing-om> unicornjedi: What file system and who owns the mount point ?
[04:48] <unicornjedi> NTFS
[04:48] <unicornjedi> and the owner and group of /media/unicornjedi/myhardrive is root:root
[04:49] <unicornjedi> I hope duplicity didn't mess anything else up :(
[04:49] <Synikull_> So this is support for Ubuntu?
[04:49] <unicornjedi> aye. I'm running ubuntu
[04:52] <Synikull_> My computer crashed, either the hard drive or the windows install, I'm not sure. I have one folder I need to save before I wipe the hard drive and start over, but I can't get into it because of (as I understand it) the hibernate file and having fast boot enabled. I can't actually log in to windows to chagne that, so I followed a tutorial to mount it as read only, except the command I tried to type in gave me an error.
[04:52] <Synikull_> The command I used was mount -t ntfs-3g -o -ro /dev/sda3 /media/windows and the return was mount: only root can use "--options" option
[04:52] <Synikull_> What am I doing wrong?
[04:55] <Bashing-om> unicornjedi: Sorry (not) - I am not experienced enough with NTFS to offer solid advise .
[04:55] <Bashing-om> Synikull_: Ome cam clear the Windows diery bit from ubuntu . want to try it ? and above what you are missing is 'sudo ' .
[04:56] <Bashing-om> Synikull_: Sheeshh .. tired One can clear the Windows dirty bit *
[04:57] <Synikull_> I've read that it clears your current session, but I don't care about that right now.
[04:57] <Synikull_> and by dirty bit do you mean hibernation file?
[04:58] <Synikull_> If that's what you're talking about I would love to try that
[05:00] <Bashing-om> Synikull_: can not hurt to try ' sudo ntfsfix /dev/sdXY ' . run 'sudo fdisk -lu ' to know what XY should be .
[05:01] <Synikull_> ok, SDA 3 wasn't what I was supposed to mount
[05:02] <Synikull_> so I tried mounting SDA 4 with that same thing I tried a minute ago  (sudo mount -t ntfs-3g -o -ro /dev/sda4 /media/windows) and it told me I couldn't do it without making it read only. Isn't that what -ro is supposed to do?
[05:03] <Bashing-om> Synikull_: :) them silver linnings in dark clouds .
[05:03] <EriC^^> Synikull_: -o ro not -o -ro
[05:03] <Synikull_> HEYO
[05:04] <Synikull_> I think that worked!
[05:04] <Bashing-om> EriC^^: \o/
[05:05] <Synikull_> You are a god Bashing-om
[05:06] <unicornjedi> Bashing-om: actually, I can't write to any of my devices under /media/
[05:06] <Bashing-om> Synikull_: Naw .. I believe in KISS .
[05:07] <Synikull_> Bashing-om: Ok...you are Gene Simmons?
[05:07] <Bashing-om> unicornjedi: EriC^^ is our man for mounting NTFS properly .
[05:08] <unicornjedi> Bashing-om: but, I have a device that is EXT4 formatted and I can't access that one either
[05:09] <Bashing-om> Synikull_: Long before him was (K)eep (I)t (S)imple (S(tupid :)
[05:09] <Synikull_> I know. I'm just excited :)
[05:10] <Bashing-om> Synikull_: That now you do not have to re-install Windows ??
[05:10] <Synikull_> Oh I still have to do it, I was just able to save some files. I'm poking around now seeing if I want to save anything else
[05:11] <Synikull_> It was long overdue anyway.
[05:12] <psychoticwarrior> you dont always have to reinstall windows. Use disc and system restore to another point
[05:13] <Bashing-om> unicornjedi: with the ext4 drive connected . what is the mount point ? and who owns it ?
[05:13] <Synikull_> I thought I had system restore set up. I was mistaken.
[05:13] <psychoticwarrior> yea go for system restore
[05:13] <psychoticwarrior> backup data first
[05:13] <psychoticwarrior> it wont overwrite your linux partitions
[05:13] <psychoticwarrior> atleast it doesnt to mine
[05:13] <Synikull_> This is a live usb, my friend.
[05:13] <Synikull_> Although, this is a really elegant OS once you start getting used to it.
[05:14] <Synikull_> If it only it supported all my games :(
[05:14] <psychoticwarrior> yea for real
[05:14] <unicornjedi> Bashing-om: "/media/unicornjedi/Silly namelel" is the mount point
[05:15] <bex> can someone walk me through reinstallation so i don't overwrite any of my files i want to keep? https://www.dropbox.com/s/d0i7fuby0ndo7ye/Screenshot%20from%202017-08-07%2004-30-26.png?dl=0
[05:15] <unicornjedi> rwxrwxrwx 1 unicornjedi unicornjedi 24576 Aug  6 20:48 Spaaace
[05:15] <unicornjedi> oops wrong one
[05:15] <unicornjedi> drwxr-xr-x 3 root        root         4096 Aug  6 21:32 Silly namelel
[05:16] <psychoticwarrior> bex it seeems like what you have wont overwrite the MBR
[05:16] <bex> the first menu said i dont have any current installation of ubuntu
[05:16] <psychoticwarrior> yea im not sure
[05:17] <mingdao> I installed Ubuntu MATE 17.10 to a mSATA drive that is /dev/sdb
[05:18] <mingdao> it didn't write a proper bootloader, as I only get a grub>  prompt
[05:18] <psychoticwarrior> yea if you install to /dev/sda2 there will be no problem
[05:18] <mingdao> can the same bootable USB be used to repair it?
[05:18] <mingdao> don't want to install over sda
[05:19] <psychoticwarrior> no i was talking to bex
[05:19] <bex> oh ok
[05:19] <mingdao> np
[05:20] <Synikull_> ok mates. Going to nuke the HD. Thanks for the help!
[05:20] <Synikull_> Odd thing to say signing off...
[05:20] <psychoticwarrior> lol
[05:20] <psychoticwarrior> actually dont install to /dev/sda2
[05:21] <psychoticwarrior> its not big enough
[05:21] <bex> yea i was just going to say
[05:21] <psychoticwarrior> yea just checked that
[05:21] <Bashing-om> unicornjedi: "Silly namele" got to rither escapr the space or rename the directory without a space . ;inux sees that as 2 entities, Silly and namele .
[05:21] <Bashing-om> either escape*
[05:21] <psychoticwarrior> you could to /dev/sda1 or /dev/mapper/plexa-vg-root
[05:22] <psychoticwarrior> i think /dev/sda2 is too small you'll have to enlarge the partition
[05:23] <psychoticwarrior> bex are you still having trouble?
[05:23] <bex> yea not really sure how to proceed
[05:23] <scenick> Not sure if that counts as a bug. But when I leave virtual machine open in VMWare and lock the machine afterwards... when I unlock it again I'm able to work with it again. Just when I switch to another window there comes finally the prompt for password. Should I report it?
[05:24] <bex> maybe ill come back, im getting tired
[05:24] <bex> especially tired of transferring my mouse back and forth. i dont know where my extra one is
[05:25] <unicornjedi> Bashing-om: yeah. so I'm at a complete loss. did duplicity change my files persmissions when I backed up?
[05:27] <Bashing-om> unicornjedi: I wouild not think that duplicity did, bit the command that you used to invoke duplicity -- maybe . No experience with duplicity so do not know what to expect .
[05:28] <psychoticwarrior> bex you can install to dev/sda1
[05:28] <psychoticwarrior> or /dev/mapper/plexa-vg-root
[05:29] <bex> i think i tried but i forgot the error
[05:29] <psychoticwarrior> you can also make the swap partition like 6 gigs and have 6 gigs for / filesystem
[05:29] <psychoticwarrior> decrease the swap partition
[05:31] <bex> ok ill try that later
[05:31] <psychoticwarrior> swap is 12 decrease by 6
[05:31] <bex> thanks
[05:31] <psychoticwarrior> no problem
[05:31] <psychoticwarrior> it may take some time but you'll be good
[05:32] <mingdao> when I installed Ubuntu MATE 17.10 to /dev/sdb it did not install grub
[05:32] <psychoticwarrior> install super grub 2 disc
[05:32] <psychoticwarrior> boot manually
[05:32] <psychoticwarrior> grub-install <dev>
[05:32] <psychoticwarrior> update-grub
[05:32] <mingdao> booted back into the Ubuntu MATE 17.10 USB I see in gdisk /dev/sdb1 is EFI system
[05:32] <psychoticwarrior> update-initramfs -u
[05:33] <bex> no root file system is defined
[05:33] <mingdao> psychoticwarrior: me?
[05:33] <psychoticwarrior> yes
[05:33] <psychoticwarrior> select a / filesystem on the device
[05:33] <psychoticwarrior> bex
[05:34] <mingdao> so this is a d/l to install to USB?
[05:34] <psychoticwarrior> not sure
[05:34] <psychoticwarrior> bex you have to select a / filesystem
[05:34] <Bashing-om> mingdao: From that liveUSB pastebin ' sudo parted -l ' so we have the install targets identified .
[05:34] <psychoticwarrior> first resize partiton to 6 gigs smaller
[05:34] <bex> how?
[05:35] <psychoticwarrior> where it says change
[05:35] <bex> i dont know how to shrink it either
[05:35] <bex> change swap to something else?
[05:35] <psychoticwarrior> make it smaller
[05:35] <psychoticwarrior> then make a partition out of free space
[05:35] <mingdao> Bashing-om: is there a way to ssh into the liveUSB?
[05:35] <bex> im not sure how to shrink it
[05:35] <bex> i dont see th eoption
[05:36] <Bashing-om> mingdao: Never done that , can not adivse on access to a live .
[05:36] <psychoticwarrior> doesnt it have an option change
[05:36] <psychoticwarrior> then you can resize it
[05:36] <psychoticwarrior> or just format swap
[05:36] <Bashing-om> mingdao: Is there another linux installed on that box we can access ?
[05:36] <psychoticwarrior> that will give you space
[05:37] <mingdao> Bashing-om: http://termbin.com/36m1
[05:38] <mingdao> Bashing-om: I do have another Linux on sda
[05:38] <psychoticwarrior> to be honest i dont even use swap on my system and it runs fine
[05:39] <bex> what filesystem should i change it to
[05:39] <psychoticwarrior> you should change it to / filesystem
[05:39] <psychoticwarrior> did u format swap?
[05:39] <bex> no
[05:39] <psychoticwarrior> ok
[05:40] <psychoticwarrior> select / filesystem do you see that option
[05:40] <bex> no
[05:40] <mingdao> Bashing-om: install targets are /dev/sdb1 for /boot and /dev/sdb2 for the rest
[05:40] <bex> my screenshot shows my options
[05:40] <mingdao> Bashing-om: it didn't ask me about partitioning so I assumed it did what's needed
[05:41] <psychoticwarrior> paste the output again
[05:42] <psychoticwarrior> i would just format swap and then make a filesystem out of free space
[05:44] <bex> i dont think it will even let me format it
[05:45] <psychoticwarrior> just select where it says format
[05:45] <psychoticwarrior> it's not gonna mess up your system
[05:45] <psychoticwarrior> make sure its swap
[05:45] <bex> i cant
[05:45] <psychoticwarrior> what does it say?
[05:45] <bex> just doesnt let me select it
[05:46] <psychoticwarrior> paste your output again
[05:46] <Bashing-om> mingdao: Looks good to me . what makes you think that grub did not install ? Maybe best to try and see what is not going on ? Be aware my EFI skills reek .
[05:47] <mingdao> Bashing-om: it boots to a grub> prompt
[05:47] <mingdao> and idk what to do there
[05:47] <mingdao> searching online
[05:47] <mingdao> thought someone here might know
[05:47] <psychoticwarrior> do you remember the pasword you used
[05:47] <psychoticwarrior> yes
[05:47] <mingdao> and it didn't install to sda
[05:47] <psychoticwarrior> burn super grub 2 disc
[05:47] <psychoticwarrior> then you can select it boot manually
[05:47] <psychoticwarrior> what you need are discs
[05:47] <psychoticwarrior> imgburn
[05:48] <psychoticwarrior> and the super grub 2 .iso
[05:49] <Bashing-om> mingdao: And if ya boot sda install  and run ' sudo update-grub ' in sda what errors are shown ? - should pick up sdb - if that is what you want that you can boot sdb from sda .
[05:49] <psychoticwarrior> you need grub-install
[05:49] <psychoticwarrior> update-grub
[05:49] <psychoticwarrior> and update-initramfs -u
[05:50] <mingdao> Bashing-om: thanks
[05:50] <mingdao> psychoticwarrior: thanks
[05:50] <mingdao> I'll boot into my other Linux and try and add it to grub there
[05:50] <psychoticwarrior> no problem
[05:50] <psychoticwarrior> yes
[05:50] <mingdao> thought I might find out how to boot from grub>
[05:51] <psychoticwarrior> that will work
[05:51] <Bashing-om> mingdao: Not done nothing yet . we can install grub to sdb - see what results .
[05:51] <mingdao> have done so in the past but it's been a long time
[05:51] <psychoticwarrior> write this down'
[05:51] <psychoticwarrior> grub-install <dev>
[05:51] <psychoticwarrior> update-grub
[05:51] <psychoticwarrior> update-initramfs -u
[05:52] <mingdao> psychoticwarrior: from my other Linux?
[05:52] <Bashing-om> psychoticwarrior: You are neglecting this is a EFI system and the EFI partition must also be mounted .
[05:52] <mingdao> psychoticwarrior: the other one has a script (boot-update) that takes /etc/boot.conf and writes a grub.cfg
[05:52] <mingdao> I can just edit and do that
[05:52] <psychoticwarrior> true
[05:53] <psychoticwarrior> i have some experience with grub.cfg
[05:53] <mingdao> I did see all the files whilst in the LiveUSB
[05:53] <psychoticwarrior> grub.cfg is a pain in the ass to edirt
[05:53] <psychoticwarrior> i usually used pci=nomsi to get rid of pci e errors
[05:55] <psychoticwarrior> what time is it near you
[05:55] <psychoticwarrior> its like almost 1 in the morning near me
[05:55] <mingdao> Mon Aug  7 00:55:53 CDT 2017
[05:55] <mingdao> and little sleep last night
[05:56] <mingdao> work at 09:00
[05:56] <psychoticwarrior> damn
[05:56] <psychoticwarrior> same here
[05:57] <psychoticwarrior> bex if it doesnt let you format. sometimes you have to reboot the installation. it happened to me also
[05:58] <Bashing-om> mingdao: I too must retire . We can pick this up tomorrow if you still have troubles .
[05:58] <psychoticwarrior> see ya bashing-om
[05:59] <psychoticwarrior> Bashing-om
[05:59] <bex> ok
[05:59] <psychoticwarrior> im not going
[05:59] <psychoticwarrior> i'll still be online
[06:01] <psychoticwarrior> its weird sometimes the ubuntu installation can be a pain in the ass
[06:01] <psychoticwarrior> i had to restart it to get the better results
[06:06] <psychoticwarrior> bex u still up
[06:06] <mingdao> the installer didn't write to /dev/sdb1
[06:06] <psychoticwarrior> do you have output to the screen
[06:07] <mingdao> it's all on /dev/sdb2
[06:07] <psychoticwarrior> what is?
[06:07] <mingdao> let me ssh and show you
[06:07] <psychoticwarrior> ok
[06:10] <mingdao> http://termbin.com/ggsq
[06:10] <mingdao> so /dev/sdb1 on /check is the /boot partition that was there before doing the install with the LiveUSB
[06:10] <mingdao> and /dev/sdb2 on /msata is where the entire install was made
[06:10] <psychoticwarrior> yes it is
[06:11] <psychoticwarrior> why not try to installl on dev sdb2
[06:11] <mingdao> and /msata/boot is the Ubuntu /boot files
[06:11] <mingdao> will do
[06:11] <psychoticwarrior> ya try that
[06:13] <mingdao> that doesn't work
[06:13] <psychoticwarrior> hmm
[06:13] <mingdao> probably because /dev/sdb2 is ext4 and not an EFI partition
[06:13] <psychoticwarrior> yea could be
[06:14] <psychoticwarrior> bex you still theree
[06:14] <mingdao> well now maybe I got it...
[06:14] <mingdao> smoke test
[06:14] <psychoticwarrior> yea for real
[06:14] <mingdao> haha
[06:14] <mingdao> same grub>
[06:14] <psychoticwarrior> shit
[06:14] <mingdao> let me fiddle with boot options
[06:14] <psychoticwarrior> do what i do. use super grub 2 disk
[06:18] <psychoticwarrior> any luck?
[06:19] <unicornjedi> nah
[06:19] <unicornjedi> For some reason all my devices are being mounted in read-only mode
[06:19] <unicornjedi> the permissions are correct however
[06:19] <psychoticwarrior> mount -rw -o remount /
[06:19] <psychoticwarrior> mount -rw -o remount /boot
[06:21] <mingdao> it's just not going to boot because it's not on a partition the UEFI can read
[06:22] <mingdao> no worries, I'll rm the partitions and let the installer run again
[06:22] <mingdao> psychoticwarrior: ^^
[06:22] <bex> no i'm leaving now
[06:22] <psychoticwarrior> go for it
[06:23] <psychoticwarrior> have you backed up your data
[06:23] <mingdao> me?
[06:23] <psychoticwarrior> yes\
[06:23] <inerkick> Hi Guys, I Got Ubuntu 16.04 in my laptop right now, and even installed Wifi drivers, but my smartphone wife doesn't show up or the wifi options to see the existing wifi. Kindly help with this issue
[06:24] <mingdao> psychoticwarrior: I'm just blowing away everything on /dev/sdb
[06:24] <psychoticwarrior> ok cool
[06:26] <inerkick> sorry I actually got Ubuntu 17.10
[06:26] <psychoticwarrior> sweet
[06:26] <inerkick> Hi Guys, I Got Ubuntu 17.10 in my laptop right now, and even installed Wifi drivers, but my smartphone wife doesn't show up or the wifi options to see the existing wifi. Kindly help with this issue
[06:27] <psychoticwarrior> ip link set <device> up
[06:27] <psychoticwarrior> whats the device
[06:27] <psychoticwarrior> termianl
[06:27] <psychoticwarrior> ifconfig]
[06:27] <psychoticwarrior> ifconfig
[06:28] <inerkick> psychoticwarrior, http://paste.ubuntu.com/25261430/
[06:29] <psychoticwarrior> try
[06:29] <psychoticwarrior> ip link set enp5s0 up
[06:29] <psychoticwarrior> which device are you using
[06:30] <inerkick> me? psychoticwarrior ?
[06:30] <psychoticwarrior> yes
[06:30] <inerkick> you mean laptop?
[06:30] <inerkick> Toshiba C640
[06:30] <psychoticwarrior> no enp5s0 or ppp0
[06:31] <inerkick> not working
[06:31] <psychoticwarrior> so the wifi option doesnt exist?
[06:31] <psychoticwarrior> the symbol
[06:31] <psychoticwarrior> ?
[06:32] <mingdao> inerkick: ip a
[06:32] <mingdao> will tell you the interface names
[06:32] <mingdao> psychoticwarrior: used parted to remove the partitions and am installing agian
[06:32] <psychoticwarrior> good
[06:33] <psychoticwarrior> gparted is a good tool
[06:33] <mingdao> psychoticwarrior: I didn't realize the LiveUSB is not doing a UEFI install
[06:33] <psychoticwarrior> ok
[06:33] <inerkick> mingdao, http://paste.ubuntu.com/25261439/
[06:33] <mingdao> psychoticwarrior: not sure it's going to boot; or, maybe set the options in UEFI to both (UEFI and legacy) if available
[06:33] <inerkick> No it's not showing wifi symbol psychoticwarrior
[06:33] <psychoticwarrior> try
[06:33] <mingdao> inerkick: enp5s0 is wired and wwp0s29f7u6i1 is wireless
[06:34] <mingdao> not sure what you're doing
[06:34] <mingdao> let psychoticwarrior tell you
[06:34] <psychoticwarrior> try /etc/init.d/networking restart
[06:34] <mingdao> I never used Ubuntu before
[06:34] <psychoticwarrior> ip link set epn5s0 up
[06:35] <inerkick> can't find device epn5s0
[06:35] <psychoticwarrior> its enp5s0
[06:35] <psychoticwarrior> other way around
[06:36] <inerkick> no. Enable Wifi still doesn't show
[06:36] <mingdao> inerkick: enp5s0 is wired; wwp0s29f7u6i1 is wireless
[06:37] <mingdao> inerkick: dmesg|grep -i firmware
[06:37] <mingdao> do you have firmware for your wireless NIC?
[06:38] <psychoticwarrior> lsusb
[06:38] <psychoticwarrior> and lspci
[06:38] <mingdao> inerkick: it should output something like:  iwlwifi 0000:04:00.0: loaded firmware version 22.361476.0 op_mode iwlmvm
[06:38] <sary> inerkick: Hiya , are you asking to connect and use the wifi from the android device!
[06:40] <inerkick> mingdao psychoticwarrior http://paste.ubuntu.com/25261456/
[06:40] <inerkick> yes sarcastico
[06:40] <inerkick> yes sary
[06:41] <mingdao> inerkick: lspci -k
[06:41] <mingdao> the -k will show kernel drivers
[06:41] <psychoticwarrior> its a broadcom driver
[06:41] <mingdao> you need to see it for 04:00.0 Network controller: Broadcom Limited BCM4311 802.11b/g WLAN (rev 01)
[06:42] <mingdao> Broadcom :/
[06:42] <inerkick> 04:00.0 Network controller: Broadcom Limited BCM4311 802.11b/g WLAN (rev 01)
[06:42] <inerkick> 	Subsystem: AMBIT Microsystem Corp. BCM4311 802.11b/g WLAN
[06:42] <inerkick> 	Kernel modules: ssb, wl
[06:42] <inerkick> that's what is says
[06:44] <mingdao> inerkick: idk, and must sleep
[06:44] <sary> inerkick: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lZBESujQbik , https://www.fossmint.com/connect-ubuntu-to-android-wifi/
[06:44] <mingdao> psychoticwarrior: still no joy; will try again some other time
[06:44] <inerkick> ok mingdao
[06:44] <psychoticwarrior> damn that sucks
[06:44] <psychoticwarrior> well atleast triied
[06:44] <psychoticwarrior> tried
[06:44] <mingdao> psychoticwarrior: np, thanks for your help
[06:44] <mingdao> psychoticwarrior: just needs to support UEFI booting
[06:44] <sary> so now what you have an iisue with the Broadcom pci card ..! inerkick
[06:45] <psychoticwarrior> you can change your bios settings
[06:45] <inerkick> Yeah I knew about using Bluetooth one, sary
[06:45] <mingdao> already did change it
[06:45] <mingdao> the
[06:45] <inerkick> Bios setting psychoticwarrior ?
[06:45] <psychoticwarrior> im talking about mingdao
[06:45] <inerkick> ok
[06:45] <mingdao> Choose your Architecture: says UEFI PCs booting in CSM mode
[06:46] <sary> what is mingdao issue..!
[06:46] <psychoticwarrior> but innerkick you may have to enable network controller in bios
[06:46] <psychoticwarrior> check to see if its running
[06:46] <mingdao> psychoticwarrior: maybe I needed to be in legacy mode when installing
[06:46] <psychoticwarrior> yae thats what i have
[06:46] <psychoticwarrior> is legacy mode
[06:46] <mingdao> sary: mingdao has installed twice to sdb and it won't boot
[06:46] <mingdao> mingdao can get a grub> prompt, but nothing more
[06:46] <psychoticwarrior> dl super grub 2 disk
[06:47] <mingdao> where have I heard that? ;)
[06:47] <mingdao> it's d/led ... just need to dd it to USB
[06:47] <mingdao> or whatever it requires
[06:47] <psychoticwarrior> yea a dvd-r disc will work
[06:48] <sary> mingdao: is sdb a HD/SSD or an external usb, #see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/Troubleshooting
[06:49] <mingdao> psychoticwarrior: it's still all installed to /dev/sdb2
[06:49] <mingdao> sary: sdb is a Micron mSATA 32GB inside the laptop
[06:50] <psychoticwarrior> mingdao any luck?
[06:50] <sary> mingdao: ok.
[06:51] <mingdao> sary: http://termbin.com/vl39
[06:51] <mingdao> sary: that's what we've got
[06:52] <mingdao>  it's still creating /dev/sdb1 but /boot is on /dev/sdb2
[06:52] <psychoticwarrior> 512M is small for ubuntu
[06:53] <mingdao> see /dev/sdb1 is empty http://termbin.com/1it9
[06:54] <mingdao> Ubuntu is installed...to /dev/sdb2
[06:54] <psychoticwarrior> install to /dev/sdb1
[06:54] <mingdao> I'd like to ;)
[06:54] <psychoticwarrior> nevermind its too smal
[06:54] <mingdao> guess there was an option to do it manually
[06:54] <psychoticwarrior> super grub 2 disk?
[06:56] <mingdao> guess I can try the install again http://termbin.com/ykjz
[06:56] <upm> what u trying to do?
[06:56] <mingdao> you know, I might use that super grub 2 disk yet
[06:56] <mingdao> stay up all night it seems ;)
[06:56] <psychoticwarrior> for sure
[06:56] <psychoticwarrior> super grub 2 disk works great
[06:56] <mingdao> upm: install Ubuntu to /dev/sdb and get it to boot
[06:56] <mingdao> psychoticwarrior: atm there's nothing on sdb though
[06:57] <psychoticwarrior> ok
[06:57] <psychoticwarrior> then install /boot and / fs
[06:58] <upm> "[16:49] <mingdao> sary: sdb is a Micron mSATA 32GB inside the laptop" i often get this issue aswell when trying to install an os (and usually grub itself refuses to install to anything other than /dev/sda) and usually it is fixed by inserting a nother removable device although i dont know why but it seems to always fix it)
[06:58] <upm> another*
[06:58] <mingdao> sorry, I don't understand
[06:59] <mingdao> I am downloading updates while installing and downloading 3rd party
[06:59] <mingdao> when it passes that I'll try once more tonight
[06:59] <mingdao> then must sleep
[06:59] <upm> if ur trying to install from usb, turn ur pc off then insert a spare usb or sd card then boot from usb again and ur hdd should be correctly mapped at sda
[06:59] <mingdao> my drives are mapped correctly
[07:00] <mingdao> the installer lists them by name; sda is a Samsung and sdb is a Micro
[07:00] <mingdao> it's in one of the posts
[07:00] <upm> is  Micron mSATA 32GB ur hdd or is it a removable disk
[07:01] <mingdao> as it states, a mSATA
[07:01] <mingdao> it's plugged into the laptop
[07:03] <upm> so it is hdd, mSATA, installationOS?
[07:03] <ragvri> Hi
[07:04] <upm> where instalationOS is the usb/cd ur using to boot into a live distro
[07:04] <ragvri> Mu Ubuntu is not opening after the grub menu. It freezes on the black screen
[07:04] <mingdao> upm: let me find you the lsblk output
[07:04] <upm> ok
[07:05] <ragvri> I have dual booted my system. When I click on Ubuntu, it just freezes on purple screen. It is also not opening in recovery mode.
[07:06] <mingdao> upm: http://termbin.com/vl39   http://termbin.com/ykjz
[07:06] <mingdao> upm: can't find the other atm
[07:06] <mingdao> upm: the laptop has a Samsung 840 Pro SSD as sda, the Micro mSATA as sdb, and the Ubuntu LiveUSB is sdc
[07:07] <ragvri> http://imgur.com/a/iEdmK this is the screen I get after booting into recovery mode
[07:07] <psychoticwarrior> it must be a hardware issue
[07:07] <mingdao> ragvri: kernel panic
[07:07] <psychoticwarrior> i would resintall
[07:08] <psychoticwarrior> ragvri
[07:08] <ragvri> All my data??
[07:08] <psychoticwarrior> yea you'll have to back up data
[07:08] <mingdao> ragvri: it says "unable to mout root   then the image is cutoff
[07:09] <mingdao> ragvri: assume it says "Unable to mount root filesystem on Unknown block (0,0)" or something like that
[07:09] <ragvri> So what do I do. I am a newbie
[07:10] <mingdao> ragvri: what does that entire line say?
[07:10] <ragvri> mingdao you mean the first line?
[07:10] <mingdao>  "Unable to mount root ...
[07:11] <ragvri> http://imgur.com/a/Ao2dk
[07:11] <ragvri> mingdao
[07:12] <psychoticwarrior> theres no pic
[07:12] <ragvri> Please check again
[07:13] <ragvri> Unable to mount root FS on unknown-block(0,0)
[07:13] <psychoticwarrior> its something with the CPU
[07:13] <sary> ragvri: Hiya , try booting with a previous kernel , which GPU on the machine! and what did you do/change before this situation!
[07:14] <ragvri> The last I remember, os had updates which were installing, but I shut down the computer
[07:14] <sary> mingdao: that looks to me like you're installing ubuntu on an external usb..
[07:14] <ragvri> sary
[07:15] <sary> ragvri: damsnit! so the upgrade got interrupted ..
[07:15] <ragvri> Yes sary
[07:15] <sary> Recovery mnode doesn't boot either you say ..
[07:15] <mingdao> sary: sorry, that's wrong
[07:15] <ragvri> Yes , the above is the screen I get in recovery mode
[07:16] <mingdao> psychoticwarrior: I got it partitioned this time; maybe 3rd time charms? or is this 4th?  ;)
[07:16] <ragvri> sary
[07:16] <psychoticwarrior> hopefully it works right away
[07:16] <psychoticwarrior> mingdao
[07:16] <mingdao> psychoticwarrior: either that or this old man goes to sleep
[07:16] <psychoticwarrior> yea im staying up all night
[07:16] <mingdao> 4h is better than nothing
[07:16] <psychoticwarrior> true
[07:17] <mingdao> psychoticwarrior: can't; work is too intense
[07:17] <psychoticwarrior> what do you do for a job?
[07:17] <mingdao> CPE vendor for 911 PSAPs
[07:17] <psychoticwarrior> whats CPE
[07:17] <sary> ragvri: that looks like a kernel issue, first try fixing dpkg in recover mode , then try bootin' with a previous kernel.
[07:18] <mingdao> Public Safety Answer Point
[07:18] <mingdao> oh, CPE is customer provided equipment
[07:18] <psychoticwarrior> ok
[07:18] <ragvri> sary, could you give the complete instructions? I am a newbie
[07:18] <mingdao> so it's quit important, and need to be sharp
[07:19] <sary> ragvri: which screen are at now ..
[07:19] <ragvri> sary, I was able to boot into recovery mode of previous version
[07:20] <ragvri> http://imgur.com/a/jwHrB. sary
[07:20] <sary> ragvri: okay , what about booting into normal mode with a previous kernel..
[07:20] <ragvri> sary, Lemme try
[07:21] <sary> ragvri: Yes , try repair dpkg ..
[07:21] <psychoticwarrior> you could try
[07:21] <psychoticwarrior> dpkg --configure a
[07:21] <psychoticwarrior> i forgot i think thats it
[07:21] <dja> Hey all - I'm using zesty on my laptop and I've just noticed that the menu bar on virt-manager isn't working: nothing drops down. Can someone check if it works on your system - otherwise I'll report a bug
[07:22] <mingdao> psychoticwarrior: https://www.motorolasolutions.com/en_us/products/smart-public-safety-solutions/ng911.html#taboverview
[07:22] <ragvri> sary, I am able to boot into previous version
[07:22] <sary> dja: Hiya , virt-manager !
[07:22] <psychoticwarrior> nice mingdao
[07:22] <dja> oh, nvm, it's working again now
[07:22] <dja> weeeird
[07:22] <imark> does anyone have a working knowledge of ecryptfs, I used the default tools on installation of ubuntu 16.04 to encrypt my home, after switching hard drives it says my ecryptfs passphrase is wrong, I've put the old hdd back in the laptop, so how can I get my current ecryptfs passphrase from a working machine
[07:23] <sary> ragvri: ok , did you reach the display/login manager ..!
[07:23] <ragvri> sary, yes
[07:23] <ragvri> previous version is working correctly
[07:23] <sary> ragvri: Excellent , well done.
[07:23] <ragvri> sary what to do now?
[07:24] <psychoticwarrior> imark go to the boot menu and type in e then go to the kernel line. linux then type init=/bin/bash. ctrl x
[07:24] <psychoticwarrior> then mount -rw -o remount /
[07:24] <psychoticwarrior> passwd <user>
[07:24] <psychoticwarrior> reboot
[07:25] <ragvri> psychotic warrior, is this a command?
[07:25] <sary> ragvri: is everthing woring as expected , wifi, apps ..
[07:25] <ragvri> sary, yes
[07:25] <imark> psychoticwarrior, actually this machine works now as it has the old hdd in it, I just needed the ecryptfs passphrase from it but i think ive found it
[07:25] <psychoticwarrior> ok
[07:26] <ragvri> sary, what should I do now?
[07:27] <sary> ragvri: Okay, now you may want to report a bug against that kernel , /join #ubuntu-kernel and show them the screenshoots , they should guide you on how to report a bug.
[07:27] <ragvri> sary, would sudo apt update not help me?
[07:28] <mingdao> psychoticwarrior: it's just not working http://termbin.com/fqwk
[07:28] <mingdao> idk and am too tired
[07:28] <mingdao> gn, and thanks
[07:29] <psychoticwarrior> good night
[07:29] <sary> ragvri: sure update the repo archive , and sudo apt upgrade .. but keep using this old working kernel , untill you sort out the new kernel issue with the kernel team.
[07:30] <ragvri> Ok
[07:30] <ragvri> sary, thanks a lot
[07:30] <sary> ragvri: You're welcome.
[07:31] <ragvri> join #ubuntu-kernel
[07:37] <psychoticwarrior> back
[07:39] <psychoticwarrior> sup
[07:40] <psychoticwarrior> anybody need any help
[07:54] <unicornjedi> psychoticwarrior: ey
[07:56] <psychoticwarrior> whats up unicornjedi
[07:56] <unicornjedi> psychoticwarrior: I got the mount thing sorted out. Well kinda
[07:56] <psychoticwarrior> nice
[07:56] <unicornjedi> now I'm ready to backup
[07:56] <psychoticwarrior> sweet
[07:57] <unicornjedi> so its like rdiff-backup /etc /media/unicornjedi/Spaaace
[07:57] <psychoticwarrior> what are you backing up
[07:57] <psychoticwarrior> ah ic
[07:57] <unicornjedi> I want to back up configuration files, and applications I download with apt
[07:57] <psychoticwarrior> nice
[07:57] <unicornjedi> home folder...
[07:57] <unicornjedi> I don't know what else I need to backup
[07:58] <unicornjedi> I'm hyperfocused on backing up right now, because I installed a printer driver from Brother and it messed up my system
[07:58] <unicornjedi> had to reinstall everything
[07:58] <unicornjedi> so... I don't want that to happen again - starting from scratch
[07:59] <unicornjedi> what do you recommend backign up psychoticwarrior
[08:03] <psychoticwarrior> just the stuff that you need
[08:03] <psychoticwarrior> music. files. .doc .mp3 .bat .docx whatever man
[08:03] <psychoticwarrior> whatever you need
[08:04] <unicornjedi> psychoticwarrior: anything that lessens the pain of setting everything up again after doing a fresh install
[08:05] <psychoticwarrior> right on
[08:06] <psychoticwarrior> sometimes redoing it makes it better. its just a pain in the ass to set eeerything up again
[08:06] <raga> join #ubuntu-kernel
[08:18] <hipitihop> Could someone please point me at documentation at how I can set up MahcineA with a usb dongle device and MachineB to see the usb device on the remote machine as plugged in on local machine?
[08:20] <hipitihop> Specifically, I have an Aeon z-stick which I want to plug in on one machine on the network, but primarily drive it from another machine
[08:28] <psychoticwarrior> unicornjedi whats up
[08:28] <unicornjedi> psychoticwarrior: I'm installing MSDOS in a virtualbox for my dad while I am backing up stuff lol
[08:28] <psychoticwarrior> nice
[08:29] <psychoticwarrior> lo
[08:29] <psychoticwarrior> lol
[08:29] <unicornjedi> yes he still uses MSDOS
[08:29] <psychoticwarrior> wow
[08:29] <psychoticwarrior> thats old school
[08:29] <unicornjedi> he runs his real estate business off dat shit
[08:29] <psychoticwarrior> nice
[08:30] <psychoticwarrior> im kinda bored but decided to stay up all night
[08:31] <unicornjedi> psychoticwarrior: same... I have one more thing on my list and that's to get my controller working in windows VM
[08:31] <unicornjedi> i wanna play some overwatch
[08:31] <psychoticwarrior> nice
[08:32] <psychoticwarrior> i wanna get a lox and bagel sandwich
[08:32] <psychoticwarrior> its like 8 bucks kinda expensive
[08:43] <psychoticwarrior> hows it coming on your back up
[08:43] <psychoticwarrior> unicornjedi
[08:45] <unicornjedi> psychoticwarrior: slow :( It's like 4:00am here
[08:45] <unicornjedi> psychoticwarrior: and I'm just listening to classical anime music
[08:46] <unicornjedi> mozart too mainstream
[08:46] <psychoticwarrior> nice
[08:46] <psychoticwarrior> im listening to orjan nilsen
[08:48] <unicornjedi> he kinda looks liek gibby from ICarly
[08:48] <psychoticwarrior> yea he does
[08:52] <psychoticwarrior> im bored
[09:00] <psychoticwarrior> unicornjedi
[09:00] <psychoticwarrior> hows it coming
[09:01] <unicornjedi> psychoticwarrior: I'm watching little with academia while waitng zzz
[09:01] <unicornjedi> it's a great show
[09:01] <unicornjedi> have you seen it?
[09:01] <psychoticwarrior> no i havent
[09:01] <unicornjedi> o.o
[09:02] <unicornjedi> why aren't there cute girls on IRC man
[09:02] <psychoticwarrior> idk
[09:02] <psychoticwarrior> are there any
[09:04] <unicornjedi> psychoticwarrior: nah
[09:05] <unicornjedi> okay, I'm gonna try out overwatch
[09:12] <psychoticwarrior> im watching american psycho
[09:18] <psychoticwarrior> unicornjedi. it seems to be that in american psycho hes psychotic
[09:20] <unicornjedi> LOL
[09:20] <psychoticwarrior> have you ever seen that movie
[09:20] <unicornjedi> psychoticwarrior: may I ask the reason why you are staying up late?
[09:20] <unicornjedi> nah
[09:20] <unicornjedi> I'm uncultred
[09:20] <psychoticwarrior> idk ihave trouble sleeeping
[09:20] <psychoticwarrior> havent taken my pills
[09:22] <unicornjedi> psychoticwarrior: if you like anime then you can hangout with us in #anime
[09:22] <psychoticwarrior> nah im ok im not into it
[09:22] <psychoticwarrior> no offense
[09:26] <unicornjedi> shit... my backup drive ran out of space
[09:26] <unicornjedi> asssss
[09:26] <unicornjedi> I need to reboot
[09:27] <bobandy> can you guys explain all the hate for systemd nowadays?
[09:39] <MacroMan> Can someone help me with a simple glob problem?: https://paste.ngx.cc/378f190a3e8882f3
[09:41] <EriC^^> MacroMan: what does echo $FULL give you?
[09:41] <murlidhar> how to add stuff to the repos if the link is deb https://weechat.org/ubuntu xenial main
[09:41] <murlidhar> ???
[09:42] <MacroMan> 2017-08-06
[09:42] <MacroMan> EriC^^, ^
[09:42] <MacroMan> Which is correct
[09:43] <EriC^^> MacroMan: ok, try echo 2_$FULL_*  vs echo 2_"${FULL}"_* see if it helps
[09:44] <MacroMan> EriC^^, 2_"${FULL}"_* works
[09:45] <MacroMan> So it needs quotes and curly braces?
[09:45] <EriC^^> yeah not sure which of them helped
[09:45] <MacroMan> OK, it works without the quotes
[09:45] <MacroMan> Thank you
[09:45] <EriC^^> no problem
[09:56] <pnint2> hi, i'm considering buying an iphone and i run ubuntu, is this a terrible idea?
[09:57] <psychoticwarrior> who's still up
[10:00] <brainwash> pnint2: in what regard?
[10:04] <tomeaton17_> what is dhclient can I stop it because I think it using 443
[10:40] <pizzaBurger> Hello! Can I install an app from a tarball (tar.bz2) on a fresh system (Ubuntu 17.04) without network connection? How? Thank you.
[10:40] <cfhowlett> !tar | pizzaBurger
[10:42] <kostkon> pizzaBurger, is it something you need to compile first?
[10:44] <zenguy> Hi what does it mean 'failed to download repository information'?
[10:45] <pizzaBurger> cfhowlett, kostkon, I somewhat understand that its a compressed file, and I can extract it through archive manager or 'tar xjf' command. But how do I actually install the app? After extraction, I get shell script files
[10:45] <zenguy> i was using software-update
[10:46] <cfhowlett> pizzaBurger, assuming this is a full on application, there should be a README in the extracted folder. start there.  if not, see the download page for support instructions
[10:47] <alexas> trying to install software through software center and in gnome i see pictogram 'waiting' can't click it and it apparently not moving. any advice? restart has been done and it wasn't helped
[10:48] <alexas> previously system freezed several times and i was executed hard reboot so possibly there is messing up with sys files
[10:48] <pnint2> brainwash: transfering picture files from iphone to ubuntu laptop
[10:48] <psychoticwarrior> fixed my system with pci=nomsi at the end of the linux kernel line
[10:48] <psychoticwarrior> it was going nuts
[10:48] <cfhowlett> alexas, use the terminal as it will provide clearer error messages.
[10:49] <cfhowlett> alexas, sudo apt install pictogram | pastebinit
[10:49] <alexas> thanks
[10:49] <alexas> pictogram was a metaphor for what i can see it is not the name of the program
[10:49] <cfhowlett> ahhhh, OK then
[10:50] <kostkon> pizzaBurger, what kind of app is it? For starters you could pastebin the contents of it
[10:50] <alexas> so say i like to try chrome
[10:50] <cfhowlett> same process with the program name
[10:50] <alexas> what it's name? it says chrome not found
[10:50] <cfhowlett> chromium-browser
[10:50] <alexas> thank you
[10:54] <pizzaBurger> cfhowlett, kostkon, I figured it out. Was trying to install VeraCrypt on a fresh ubuntu system with no connection. Download file - https://www.veracrypt.fr/en/Downloads.html. Downloaded tar.bz2, extracted, and got shell scripts. One is console, one is GUI. I ran 'sudo bash x-setup-gui-x64 and the installer launched.
[10:54] <cfhowlett> that's some fine detective work, pizzaBurger!
[10:54] <kostkon> pizzaBurger, well done
[10:55] <pizzaBurger> Unofrtunatelly I barelly understand the mechanics of this proccess, need to learn more. But hey, atleast I solved my problem with your help, thanks!
[10:56] <pizzaBurger> One day I hope to give advice on here same as you guys do
[10:56] <cfhowlett> you're ready to that already!  next time someone asks your question, jump in.
[10:57] <pizzaBurger> true, but I would fail to give any further details or even the explanation
[11:00] <Delons> Hello! I'm trying to install Ubuntu as I've done numerous times before, but this time I'm running into a weird error. I'm booted into a LiveUSB, I click on install, it asks to connect to a wifi network, and then the installer crashes and says an error has occured. I've tried a new LiveUSB with a fresh iso download, and that did not fix it.
[11:01] <cfhowlett> Delons, turn off wifi and install without networking.
[11:01] <Delons> Hm... I'll give that a shot.
[11:01] <Delons> THanks
[11:02] <psychoticwarrior> fixed my system using pci=nomsi
[11:02] <psychoticwarrior> why does it say pci error
[11:03] <Delons> cfhowlett: Hm... Same thing happened again.
[11:03] <Delons> With WiFi and Networking disabled
[11:06] <psychoticwarrior> Delons whats your issue
[11:07] <Delons> psychoticwarrior: Trying to install Ubuntu 17.04 Desktop. Installer crashes after first step or wifi step, it varies. I tried redownloading the iso, didn't fix it.
[11:08] <Delons> Going to try a different flash drive, just in case.
[11:08] <psychoticwarrior> ok cool
[11:08] <psychoticwarrior> just in case iw ould disable network card
[11:08] <psychoticwarrior> it worked for me when i was installing kali linux
[11:08] <psychoticwarrior> then renable the network controller once its installed
[11:09] <Delons> I tried disabling networking and wifi, as cfhowlett requested, but it still crashed.
[11:10] <psychoticwarrior> not sure
[11:10] <psychoticwarrior> what the problem is thern
[11:10] <psychoticwarrior> then
[11:10] <Delons> I'll try a different USB and see what happens.
[11:10] <Delons> brb
[11:10] <psychoticwarrior> ok
[11:31] <dedze> Hello, can anyone help me? When I logged into my user account, my background was changed and it asked me to authenticate "To update the software catalog, you need to authenticate"
[11:31] <dedze> And I didn't ask for any of it, how do I know if someone is remotely controling my laptop?
[11:32] <Delons> Well, my install is still crashing. Here's the title of the error
[11:33] <Delons> http://imgur.com/a/7r61A
[11:33] <imark> anyone familiar with ecryptfs, I have changed a hard drive and used dd to copy everything over to the new hard drive, but can't login as the home directory doesn't decrypt, I have managed to get my mount passphrase from my old hard drive and can mount the new encrypted home directory in /tmp using ecryptfs-recover-private. I need to get it mounted in /home where it should be
[11:34] <imark> ive tried using ecryptfs-mount-private but it asks for my login password and doesn't accept it, it always says its incorrect, AFAIK it's never changed
[11:36] <dedze> pavlos: Hello, can you help me please?
[11:36] <psychoticwarrior> dedze whats your problem?
[11:38] <dedze> psychoticwarrior: when I logged into my laptop today, the desktop for my user account had be reseted to the default one. I logged into one user, then went back to user selection then logged into the same user again and I got an authentification request "To update the software catalogue you need to authenticate" And wow this authentifacation window just disapeared as I was typing this".
[11:38] <dedze> psychoticwarrior: I'm always paranoid that someone is remote controling my laptop
[11:39] <psychoticwarrior> are you using ubuntu?
[11:39] <psychoticwarrior> try nmap -sS -vv -Pn <ip>
[11:39] <psychoticwarrior> check your ports
[11:40] <dedze> Yes I am using Ubuntu 16.4
[11:40] <psychoticwarrior> ok
[11:40] <psychoticwarrior> so basically your paranoid that someone will log in
[11:40] <psychoticwarrior> do you have ftp or ssh enabled
[11:41] <dedze> I don't know what it is
[11:41] <dedze> I'm a newbie with Ubuntu and computers in general
[11:41] <ioria> dedze, i think it's a problem with ubuntu-software-center ,  just check if it works
[11:41] <dedze> I tried to enter nmap -sS -vv -Pn <ip> in the terminal but it said synthax error
[11:42] <psychoticwarrior> nmap -sS -vv -Pn 127.0.0.1
[11:42] <dedze> ioria: it works
[11:42] <ioria> dedze,  can you paste ls /var/crash  ?
[11:43] <dedze> Oh nmap is not installed psychoticwarrior, I need to change user account to install it
[11:43] <psychoticwarrior> log into root
[11:43] <psychoticwarrior> or edit sudoers file
[11:44] <dedze> This account cannot use root actually thats why
[11:44] <dedze> ioria:  that file is empty
[11:44] <ioria> dedze,  ok, but it's a directory
[11:44] <dedze> Oki, well noted :)
[11:44] <dedze> I'll be back in a minute
[11:45] <romrom> imark, did you DD everything ?
[11:46] <imark> romrom, yes
[11:46] <romrom> imark, I ask because ecrypts-mount-private is a little fussy
[11:46] <imark> the whole drive, it completed without errors
[11:46] <romrom> imark, I had some issue with ecryptfs over dropbox
[11:46] <imark> the new drive is bigger but I will expand it once I can login to it
[11:46] <romrom> imark, do you have a ~/.ecryptfs/wrapped-passphrase file ?
[11:46] <imark> romrom, yes
[11:47] <dedze_> I am back
[11:48] <dedze_> Should I install nmap?
[11:48] <BluesKaj> Hi folks
[11:48] <romrom> imark, I was checking in my computer, but we have a different setup: I have a private directory in .Private, not the whole home directory
[11:49] <romrom> imark, I would say maybe check your PAM configuration
[11:49] <imark> romrom, I wouldn't have a clue how to do that
[11:49] <romrom> imark, sorry :)
[11:49] <romrom> imark, I will explain more
[11:50] <Dulcin> How can I give a model with a manytomanyfield a default value? I tried passing it a list with pk's, but the manytomanyfield remains empty?
[11:51] <Dulcin> oh shit wrong channel
[11:52] <romrom> imark, PAM is the stuff that automatically takes care of mounting ecryptfs when you login
[11:52] <dedze_> ioria: I am back
[11:52] <romrom> imark, you should have a line containing pam_ecryptfs.so in four files:
[11:53] <romrom> imark, /etc/pam.d/common-auth - /etc/pam.d/common-session - /etc/pam.d/common-password
[11:53] <romrom> imark and /etc/pam.d/common-session-noninteractive
[11:53] <romrom> imark, are the lines there ?
[11:55] <ioria> dedze_, my guess is about your user configuration, do you get the same msg logging in the sudo capable user session ?
[11:56] <dedze_> Nop, no message
[11:56] <dedze_> But my wallpaper stayed the same for a week without changing
[11:56] <romrom> imark, maybe I move a little quick, tell me when I say things that are unclear to you
[11:57] <ioria> dedze_, idk, an update maybe
[11:58] <dedze_> ioria: http://paste.ubuntu.com/25262652/
[11:58] <dedze_> Can you take a look at the end of it please?
[12:00] <psychoticwarrior> dbus is a bitch
[12:02] <dedze_> psychoticwarrior: how do I install nmap?
[12:02] <psychoticwarrior> sudo apt install nmap
[12:02] <dedze_> psychoticwarrior:  and welcome back :p
[12:02] <psychoticwarrior> thx
[12:02] <dedze_> psychoticwarrior: http://paste.ubuntu.com/25262652/       maybe I found what asked me to authentificate
[12:03] <psychoticwarrior> yea im not sure about that code
[12:03] <ioria> dedze_,  are you using kde ?
[12:04] <dedze_> ioria: I dont know what is kde
[12:04] <Exterminador> HELP! somehow i deleted python and now my server cant resolve hosnames, nothing.. what can i do?
[12:04] <ioria> dedze_,  can you paste  dpkg -l | grep wallet
[12:04] <ioria> sorry
[12:04] <ioria> dedze_,  can you paste  dpkg -l | grep kwallet
[12:04] <dedze_> I enter this command in the terminal ioria ?
[12:05] <ioria> dedze_,  yes, and paste the output
[12:05] <marahin> Hello! I'm trying to install DaVinci Resolve on ubuntu 17.04. However it relies on libpng version 12, where as I have the default libpng package installed (currently version 16.0). It throws me an error: version `PNG12_0' not found (required by /opt/resolve/bin/resolve)
[12:06] <marahin> How should I approach the issue?
[12:07] <dedze_> ioria: It didnt do anything
[12:08] <Exterminador> is there any bind9 package to install manually? i can't even do apt get update. i guess i screwed up the system
[12:08] <ioria> dedze_,  so, not installed .  lightdm wants to load kwallet  but the library is gone.
[12:09] <dedze_> Maybe it was gone when I did purge wine*
[12:09] <dedze_> But I did that like a week ago
[12:10] <ducasse> Exterminador: afaik apt and dpkg themselves require python, so the system is probably pretty hosed at this point
[12:10] <ioria> dedze_,  check /var/log/apt/history.log
[12:10] <Exterminador> ducasse: installing python mannually will solve the issue?
[12:10] <psychoticwarrior> synaptic will help
[12:11] <ducasse> Exterminador: if that is all you removed it should
[12:11] <Exterminador> i guess bind9 and all that stuff are gone
[12:12] <dedze_> ioria: http://paste.ubuntu.com/25262708/
[12:12] <dedze_> psychoticwarrior: I have nmap installed now, what should I do next?
[12:13] <ioria> dedze_,  has been zipped, i guess
[12:13] <ducasse> Exterminador: you can boot from a live usb and manually extract the python debs in place, that might solve the problem.
[12:13] <ioria> dedze_,  you  can decompress it with gunzip, or zgrep
[12:13] <Exterminador> ducasse: it's ubuntu vps
[12:15] <ducasse> Exterminador: restore from snapshot/backup.
[12:15] <Exterminador> thats the problem
[12:15] <Exterminador> i dont have one
[12:15] <Exterminador> lol
[12:15] <ioria> dedze_,  zcat, i mean
[12:15] <Exterminador> yeah, i know i'm stupid
[12:15] <munsking> Hello, i have an issue with my ubuntu installation, my /boot/ partition is full, autoremove doesn't work because of unmet dependencies (linux-image-4.4.0-70-generic) and using apt-get -f install to fix that doesn't work because there's no more space on /boot/, any idea on how to fix that?
[12:15] <Exterminador> lol
[12:15] <ducasse> Exterminador: so the vps was not important, then. make a new one.
[12:16] <Exterminador> well, it was..
[12:16] <dedze_> ioria: http://paste.ubuntu.com/25262731/
[12:16] <Exterminador> thats what i get by preppending commands with -y
[12:16] <Exterminador> lol
[12:17] <ducasse> Exterminador: can you at least see from the apt logs what you removed?
[12:17] <ioria> dedze_,  wine is there, but not kwallet
[12:17] <Exterminador> ducasse: how do i do that?
[12:17] <dedze_> ioria: I removed wine with a line using purge wine*
[12:18] <ducasse> Exterminador: check /var/log/apt/history.log for the relevant apt operation
[12:18] <Exterminador> okay
[12:19] <dedze_> ioria: How can I check for open ports with nmap?
[12:19] <sary> munsking: Hiya, you might need to free some space from /tmp and such , but #See the safely removing section here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RemoveOldKernels .
[12:19] <munsking> sary: thanks!
[12:20] <Exterminador> ducasse: http://paste.ubuntu.com/25262755/
[12:20] <ioria> dedze_,  the problem is the kwallet library, not the ports i guess
[12:20] <ioria> dedze_,  the pkg is this: libpam-kwallet5
[12:20] <dedze_> ioria: So how do I fix it?
[12:21] <ioria> dedze_,  asaik it's a kde (kubunu) lib
[12:21] <sary> munsking: You're welcome. and that's why it's a bad practice to have a separate parition for /boot , unless you give it enough space!
[12:22] <ducasse> Exterminador: what does /etc/resolv.conf contain?
[12:23] <munsking> sary: doesn't uefi NEED it? and i didn't manually size the partitions iirc, at home i usually give it 10gb or so, so i can mess around with it a bit more, auto install gives it 500mb
[12:23] <Exterminador> ducasse: root@ptirc:/var/log/apt# cat /etc/resolv.conf | # Dynamic resolv.conf(5) file for glibc resolver(3) generated by resolvconf(8) |#     DO NOT EDIT THIS FILE BY HAND -- YOUR CHANGES WILL BE OVERWRITTEN
[12:23] <Exterminador> just that
[12:23] <Exterminador> nothing else
[12:24] <sary> munsking: So, now when you try to remove kernels manually , post the output of if there are errors to http://paste.ubuntu.com/
[12:25] <dedze_> ioria: Thanks for your help, should we stop here?
[12:25] <ducasse> Exterminador: try inserting 'nameserver 8.8.8.8' on a line of it's own, then try apt update
[12:25] <sary> munsking: I'm not sure why UEFI would need a separate /boot parition , Well the ubuntu installer doesn't make a /boot parition by default.
[12:25] <ioria> dedze_,  you should know more about your system: DE, autologin enabled, etc. etc.
[12:26] <psychoticwarrior> mussking you'll have to make a boot partition
[12:26] <Exterminador> ducasse: it worked
[12:26] <imark> romrom, thanks for your help but I'm going to reattempt to DD again but using .img files this time, hopefully I can get this sorted without having to get too complicated.
[12:26] <Exterminador> now, how can i undo the things i've done?
[12:26] <ducasse> Exterminador: ok, then try reinstalling python
[12:27] <imark> last time I dd's from hard drive straight to a backup drive then straight again to new drive
[12:27] <imark> ill do it to an image file and then to new drive and see if i have more luck,
[12:27] <dedze_> I'm trying to learn ioria , it's a bit overwhelming because there is so much to learn hahaha :)
[12:28] <Exterminador> ducasse: seems to be working
[12:29] <ducasse> Exterminador: ok, then create a backup/snapshot NOW and replace anything else that is missing
[12:29] <Exterminador> ducasse: it works again now! thanks a lot. you've saved my day!
[12:29] <Exterminador> i'll do that, for sure.. :D
[12:30] <ducasse> Exterminador: np
[12:32] <Exterminador> thank god it was just python and certbot
[12:32] <Exterminador> btw, is it possible to make a spanpshot of that VPS into my laptop? instead locally?
[12:33] <Exterminador> s/spanpshot/snapshot
[12:33] <dedze_> ioria: I'm logging off, thanks again!
[12:34] <MWM> I am having trouble installing to a USB stick.  Not making a live stick, I want to install the OS to a USB stick
[12:34] <pconwell> \p
[12:34] <Exterminador> that's not very advisable I guess
[12:35] <MWM> The installer keeps claiming there is something wrong with the drive or that I should try somewhere cooler.  I have tried several drives and cooled the hell out of the system/stick
[12:36] <MWM> I know it is not ideal to install to USB but I have a use for it in conjunction with a low powered system.  Basically giving someone a USB Linux stick to play with and saving their original system also
[12:37] <MWM> I guess Im just hoping there is some sort of magic to use that will force the installation or something
[12:39] <ducasse> Exterminador: snapshot functionality depends on your vps provider, but you want it kept on their servers
[12:44] <sary> MWM: SO, you install it to Sdb1 , which needes to be formatted as as Ext4 File System , and select it on the installer to use it as such, set the 'mount point' as '/' .. then select/highlight Sdb to the device to install to .. now the question is did you install GNU GRUB to '/dev/Sdb !
[12:49] <MWM> sary:  correct.  16gb stick with 12gb formatted for OS and the rest as swap.  Set /dev/sdx as location for bootloader and then run through naming the installation and setting a password.  about 30 seconds after the install starts, I get the i/o error that I mentioned
[12:49] <ducasse> MWM: which release is this? and what is the exact error you get?
[12:49] <MWM> ducasse:  Budgie 17.04.  Ill get the exact error for you shortly.  I have to reboot the system
[12:50] <sary> MWM: What I/O error , i would do a file system check on sdb then..!
[12:50] <MWM> also cleaned the USB stick in gparted before I started just for safety sake.
[12:53] <MWM> Ill do a file systems check, but it has been the same error over multiple USB sticks, so I dont think there is anything to find there.  Still waiting on the error, rebooting now
[12:54] <munsking> sary: i manually moved the unused kernel files from /boot to /home/me/boot, did an autoremove, worked now, than i moved em back version by version and removed em with apt, that worked
[12:59] <MWM> [Errno 5] input/output error
[12:59] <sary> munsking: Ok, how many proper working kernels do keept in /boot now , as you know you only need at least one old working kernel to fall back to when needed. but other than that / Well done :)
[13:00] <munsking> sary: i've got like 5 left in there, using less than 50% space, should be fine for a while, and i'll make sure we pay more attention in the future :)
[13:02] <ducasse> MWM: where did you get the message about trying somewhere cooler?
[13:03] <sary> munsking: Excellent!
[13:04] <MWM> ducasses: in the Errno 5 popup box it states (and Im paraphrapsing):  Clean your CD/DVD drive or try somewhere cooler.  Also check your disk for errors.
[13:06] <MWM> http://dellze.blogspot.com/2016/10/mengatasi-ubuntu-installations-failed.htmlhas a pic of the error I am talking about at the top of the page
[13:08] <sary> MWM: At what speed was the CD/DVD burned with! and did you checked the hashes against the iso image!
[13:08] <MWM> no errors from fsck either
[13:08] <sary> ok, that's good..
[13:09] <ducasse> MWM: did you try rewriting the live usb, preferably on another stick?
[13:09] <MWM> sary:  It is not a CD/DVD.  It is a live USB and yes the MD5 of the iso matches.  I am not sure how to check if the iso was copied to the stick with no errors though
[13:10] <sary> But i am not sure why you'd receive the same I/O error with different usbs!
[13:11] <sary> MWM: So the live iso is on a usb stick, and you're attempting to install ubuntu to a different usb stick!
[13:11] <MWM> ducasse:  no I guess I havent tried that yet.  however I did check the integrity of the original iso.  Assuming for a second that a second live USB does not work, are there any options?
[13:11] <sary> just to be clear..
[13:12] <ducasse> MWM: this just looks like a bad live usb
[13:12] <MWM> sary:  yes live iso is on stick #1 and I am installing to stick #2
[13:12] <MWM> ducasse: fair enough I will try another USB
[13:13] <ducasse> MWM: there should also be an option to verify it when you boot from the live usb
[13:15] <MWM> Ill give that a shot also.  I know this process works because I have done it before.  Just no love from the USB today I guess :D
[13:16] <sary> MWM: on the live session before you try to reinstall , in a terminal run: ubiquity --no-migration-assistant , then install .. see what happens!
[13:17] <psychoticwarrior> back on the game
[13:18] <MWM> sary:  "ubiquity: error: no such option: --no-migration-assistant"
[13:20] <MWM> building a differnt live USB with rufus now...
[13:21] <psychoticwarrior> who's rufus
[13:21] <MWM> Rufus is the guy who mkaes my live USB sticks :D https://rufus.akeo.ie/
[13:21] <BluesKaj> a windows disk/usb OS iso/image creator
[13:23] <BluesKaj> it does work, tried it on W7 when i had it installed  afew months ago
[13:24] <BluesKaj> gave up on W7, rarely used it anyway
[13:24] <sary> MWM: Ok.. now that Error you get "  Clean your CD/DVD drive or try somewhere cooler .. seems like a hardware issue .. try to move the system to a cooler environment!
[13:24] <psychoticwarrior> yay rufus
[13:25] <sary> MWM: I would dd the iso , that never fails me.
[13:27] <BluesKaj> rufus is for windows users who want to migrate to alinux OS, dd isn't available there
[13:27] <MWM> sary:  noted about dd.  I will give that a shot also, but will have to move the iso over to a linux box.  not impossible, just figured I could get this working without the work
[13:28] <MWM> as far as moving the system to a cooler environment... I held it up the an air conditioner pushing through the fan while the process was working... still asked for a cooler environment
[13:30] <sary> MWM: Ok, also how many RAM does the machine have , memory slots, actuall memory sticks.. was there a change or a RAM upgrade recently!
[13:31] <MWM> 8gb ram 2 sticks 2 slots (laptop).  All hardware known working in Windows for over a year, and dual booting just fine with 17.04 for the past few weeks
[13:32] <MWM> New Live usb is done... trying with that one now
[13:38] <MWM> sary: The new USB seems to be doing the trick. I am much further into the install than previously.  THank your for all your help
[13:40] <sary> MWM: Excellent , I thought it would be a hardware issue with the I/O error as the software runs on the hardware so had to check the status of the RAM as well, Thanks to ducasse for suggestin a try with a new usb.
[13:41] <sary> Now i can go back and pick hardware specs for a home-bilt desktop :)
[13:42] <MWM> get a threadripper! :D
[13:46] <sary> MWM: I like Intels all the way , but what! -> http://wccftech.com/first-amd-ryzen-threadripper-benchmarks/ .. thanks for the suggestion, am going to start a thread on the forums to gather people's experiance and suggestions.
[13:48] <MWM> yeah its kind of beastly.  If you have that kind of workload I dont know that intel can match it.  Good luck with your build
[13:49] <nemo> I've been on AMD since 1999 or so through their ups and downs so was rather satisfying to read this https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=14927837
[13:54] <MWM> Im afraid that article is a bot over my knowledge grade.  I just run what I cna afford and what works.  Have a good day all :D
[13:57] <anddam> hello
[13:58] <anddam> is there a package providing current kernel source in /usr/src/linux or do I just need to go with apg-get source linux-image-<my version> ?
[14:05] <SecurityIntel> Hi all, if I cant find the param "/proc/sys/net/netfilter/nf_conntrack_max" does it meen that iptables doesnt "track" the connection or something replaces it (ubuntu16.04)
[14:06] <MasterOfDisaster> Hey, I got a question concerning the qla2xxx driver on 14.04.4 LTS. It seems that {rx,tx}_words in /sys/class/fc_host/*/statistics remain 0. The card is a Fibre Channel: QLogic Corp. ISP2532-based 8Gb Fibre Channel to PCI Express HBA (rev 02).
[14:07] <MasterOfDisaster> {rx,tx}_frames increase though. I've looked at the driver's manual by QLogic, but there's no hint on why that might be. Any ideas?
[14:14] <agentx04> hi, anyone?
[14:17] <agentx04> :'(
[14:19] <kostkon> !anyone
[14:40] <m00n_urn> hey
[14:41] <m00n_urn> any on try connecting their pi using ethernet on 14.04?
[14:41] <BluesKaj> m00n_urn, try ssh
[14:41] <lgc> Hi. My disk doesn't start spinning how can I find out what is that keeps it busy?
[14:42] <lgc> *stop spinning
[14:42] <BluesKaj> lgc, system monitor
[14:44] <m00n_urn> BluesKaj: in order to do that i need to connect it to my laptop 1st, innit?
[14:45] <BluesKaj> MonoMonkey, is yor rpi on your network?  If so make sure you have ssh and openssh-server installed on all devices you want to connect via ssh
[14:45] <oerheks> only ubuntu-core has standard ssh & key running, else you need to set it up yourself
[14:46] <oerheks> https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/serverguide/openssh-server.html
[14:47] <BluesKaj> er m00n_urn ^
[14:50] <lgc> BluesKaj, thanks, but that seems to be too generic.
[14:51] <BluesKaj> too generic.? what doe that mean ?
[14:52] <oerheks> lgc,  why should a disk stop spinning? stop spinning would take a huge time and power to start again.
[14:52] <nemo> oerheks: it also causes wear and tear
[14:52] <nemo> oerheks: in past overly aggressive linux power profiles actually damaged discs
[14:53] <lgc> oerheks, I mean busy.
[14:53] <oerheks> .. i don't believe that, nemo.
[14:53] <nemo> https://hardware.slashdot.org/story/07/10/30/1742258/ubuntu-may-be-killing-your-laptops-hard-drive
[14:53] <BluesKaj> yeah , seems we have a group of nay sayers here today
[14:53] <nemo> oerheks: it was a long time ago
[14:53] <nemo> these days is better behaved
[14:54] <oerheks> how helpfull..
[14:54] <tgm4883> geez, that was practically written on a stone tablet
[14:54] <oerheks> lgc, what do you mean exactly, why your drive is busy?
[14:54]  * BluesKaj shakes his head ....too generic...gawd
[14:54] <nemo> https://superuser.com/questions/17228/is-turning-off-hard-disks-harmful
[14:54] <lgc> Right, oerheks .
[14:55] <oerheks> nemo, please stop. we don't even know his issue
[14:55] <nemo> oerheks: ... that was in response to you.  and specifically your skepticism. not his question
[14:55] <oerheks> lgc, care to explain what drive, intenal external, what were you doing with it?
[14:55] <nemo> but yes. in general spinning it down is not that great. so at least in agreement there
[14:56] <nemo> this was a pretty big story at the time tho.
[14:57] <nemo> the bug linked in the slashdot story has some good tech details - specifically the bit about drives being rated for a certain number of spinups/downs - another similar story is google noting best way for drives to survive is just to never stop them.
[14:58] <lgc> oerheks, it's internal. I actually freed it by taking down VirtualBox.
[14:59] <DArqueBishop> nemo: to be fair, "at the time" according to your link was a decade ago.
[14:59] <nemo> DArqueBishop: yeah. it's been resolved since by making it way less aggressive - the fact that it damages drives is unchanged tho, which is why nowdays they don't spin down nearly as often
[14:59] <lgc> However, my question remains open: how can I check the activity of my HD and know which process is keeping it busy?
[14:59] <nemo> DArqueBishop: it may in fact be nothing is keeping his HD busy ☺
[14:59] <EriC^^> lgc: sudo iotop
[14:59] <lgc> EriC^^, thanks.
[15:00] <EriC^^> np
[15:00] <nemo> DArqueBishop: (nothing unusual I mean)
[15:00] <lgc> EriC^^, "command not found". It doesn't give me a candidate for installation, eiter.
[15:01] <EriC^^> lgc: install iotop
[15:01] <nemo> DArqueBishop: another annoying side effect was that was actually giving a basis for stupid manufacturer "warranty invalidation" ☹  which usually is just FUD.
[15:02] <lgc> Excellent, EriC^^. Thanks!
[15:07] <scorch> I just did do-release-upgrade from xenial to zesty but in the end I got a bunch of unconfigured packages, namely: gcc-4.9 gfortran-4.9 python3-dev cpp-4.9 python3.5-minimal libproxy1-plugin-gsettings:amd64 libasan1:amd64 python3-minimal g++-4.9 python3.5 python3-uno python3.5-dev
[15:07] <scorch> apt-get -f install says "Package python3.5-minimal is not configured yet"
[15:09] <scorch> I have python3.5 installed from source since before with prefix /usr/local, maybe causing conflicts?
[15:09] <oerheks> scorch, likely, yes.
[15:11] <scorch> some console output: https://pastebin.com/aPXXtiki
[15:12] <oerheks> scorch, not sure what to advise, logically it would be removing that manual installed python and running apt install -f again ..
[15:13] <scorch> will try
[15:32] <multifractal> My Wifi drops out intermittently all the time at home, but never at work or elsewhere. Also it never drops out on the Win7 partition of my laptop, or my phone or ipad, only Ubuntu. What is a likely cause of this?
[15:33] <multifractal> The dropping out problem doesn't happen to other people's Macbook pros in the house either (running OSX)
[15:38] <RJW2> sary: let me know if you're around and want to deal with multiple monitors ;)
[16:08] <andrefreitas> Hi, I am running the unattended-upgrades command but I still have one pending security update
[16:08] <andrefreitas> I couldn't find a way to list that one missing security update. Somebody can help me? Thanks
[16:09] <oerheks> apt list --upgradable
[16:10] <oerheks> or run sudo apt full-upgrade directly, that would grab the packages that are held back
[16:10] <andrefreitas> thanks oerheks, I already tried that way but that gives all pending updates. I cannot filter the security ones
[16:10] <oerheks> why installing security packages only??
[16:11] <andrefreitas> The problem of doing a full-upgrade, is in my case, causing the Docker upgrade, that shutdowns containers and causes downtimes
[16:11] <andrefreitas> I know this is very particular my case
[16:11] <oerheks> apt-get upgrade -s | grep -i security
[16:11] <andrefreitas> But I want to achive a minimalistic security upgrade
[16:12] <andrefreitas> Thanks, I already tried that and gives me an empty list
[16:12] <oerheks> then there are none?
[16:13] <andrefreitas> my conclusion was that, but whenever I login in the machine, always says 1 pending security update
[16:13] <oerheks> i duno, i would not risc dependencie issues by doing security updates only
[16:13] <nemo> multifractal: FWIW I get 'sact same thing on my laptop
[16:13] <nemo> lol
[16:13] <nemo> oh well
[16:14] <andrefreitas> oerheks: dependencies may breake with this strategy?
[16:14] <nemo> was going to look for/add details but clearly he got tired of waiting
[16:15] <oerheks> andrefreitas, maybe, i try to avoid that, but then again i have no production system
[16:15] <littlekitty> what ubuntu vnc servers are there? i have a problem with a pre-installed system. the vnc server always refuses the connection after a reboot but i don't even know the name of it to configure it
[16:17] <ilhami> hello
[16:17] <ilhami> how do I make Windows 10 iso bootable from Ubuntu? :)
[16:17] <nemo> littlekitty: I use Xrdp and Xvnc right now..
[16:18] <nemo> littlekitty: there are quite a few out there tho
[16:18] <jelly> ilhami: woeusb
[16:18] <nemo> littlekitty: if it is actually running you could probably figure out pretty quickly which package by getting the process from fuser, then dpkg query on the process file
[16:18] <littlekitty> memo: yep it gave me [/root]:# xrdp
[16:18] <littlekitty> It looks like xrdp is allready running,
[16:19] <littlekitty> so that must be it
[16:19] <nemo> kk
[16:19] <ilhami> woeusb does not exist in my ubuntu repo
[16:19] <littlekitty> memo: thank you :)
[16:19] <nemo> np
[16:19] <StrangeNoises> I am shocked, *shocked* I tell you, at how easy it's been so far to install ubuntu gnome (17.04) onto a 2015 macbook pro. literally just booted it and installed it and rebooted and it was in. even hidpi seems to be working. no hacks, no messing about. this is not the linux I grew up with!
[16:19] <jelly> littlekitty: verify by looking at the process list (output of ps command, eg. ps aux | grep -i rdp)
[16:20] <ilhami> do I really have to build from source?
[16:20] <nemo> jelly: I'm a fan of fuser -n tcp 5900  ☺  (or 5901 or whatever)
[16:20] <oerheks> ilhami, http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2017/06/create-bootable-windows-10-usb-ubuntu
[16:20] <littlekitty> jelly: that gave me xrdp       753  0.0  0.0  22836   460 ?        S    12:08   0:00 /usr/sbin/xrdp
[16:20] <StrangeNoises> ... however, i then shut the lid to get on with my work for a while, and when I opened it again the trackpad was completely unresponsive. had to plug in a mouse.
[16:20] <ilhami> oerheks, The requested URL /nilarimogard/webupd8/ubuntu/pool/main/w/woeusb/woeusb_2.1.2-1~webupd8~xenial_amd64.deb was not found on this server.
[16:20] <jelly> littlekitty: now, THAT means xrdp is running.
[16:21] <ilhami> oerheks, when clicking on the download link
[16:21] <littlekitty> but my next problem is xrdp -h is really spare
[16:21] <StrangeNoises> logout fixed it. i suspect Wayland. need to do more tests but thunderbird is fetching all my email right now and imma gonna let that finish
[16:21] <nemo> littlekitty: spare?
[16:21] <littlekitty> how does one check which commands are available?
[16:21] <StrangeNoises> but anyone know anything? trackpad unresponsive on wake from suspend?
[16:21] <StrangeNoises> possibly wayland specific?
[16:21] <littlekitty> memo: it gives me three options. one of them is -h
[16:21] <oerheks> ilhami, oh, then it is a dead project, make an iso on windows.
[16:22] <ilhami> are there no other projects? :D
[16:22] <jelly> ilhami: dunno, last time I'd used it it was still called winusb and there was a usable repo.
[16:22] <littlekitty> i'm searching for a command that terminates all connections
[16:22] <nemo> littlekitty: just restart the server?
[16:22] <jelly> ilhami: your URL message strongly suggests there's something like a "webupd8" repo which might contain a build.
[16:23] <jelly> ilhami: you might also delete the file path from that URL, and see if you can browse the directory.
[16:23] <nemo> littlekitty: http://www.xrdp.org/  the project btw
[16:23] <ilhami> found the deb
[16:24] <ilhami> https://www.ubuntuupdates.org/package/webupd8/xenial/main/base/woeusb from here
[16:24] <littlekitty> memo: it still refuses my connection after a kill and fresh start
[16:24] <nemo> littlekitty: check /etc/xrdp/xrdp.ini
[16:24] <nemo> littlekitty: looks like default is to bind to localhost, presumably for security
[16:25] <oerheks> ilhami, https://launchpad.net/~nilarimogard/+archive/ubuntu/webupd8/+index?field.series_filter=xenial&batch=75&direction=backwards&start=75 .. but if this is not working, i have no clue
[16:25] <nemo> littlekitty: you would want to use an ssh tunnel to forward the xrdp port or else switch that default
[16:25] <nemo> littlekitty: but maybe I'm misreading the config ☺
[16:25] <nemo> littlekitty: you could doublecheck that w/ nmap I guess
[16:25] <ilhami> oerheks, will try
[16:26] <ilhami> thanks
[16:26] <nemo> littlekitty: http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/zesty/man5/xrdp.ini.5.html
[16:26] <littlekitty> nemo: sorry I don't exactly know what that means. I'm using it from lan only, but parallel there is an ssh session running
[16:27] <littlekitty> nemo: like  tcp_keepalive=false ?
[16:27] <nemo> littlekitty: one other thing. you started out asking about vnc, then we moved to rdp - just to be clear - which protocol are you using?
[16:28] <littlekitty> nemo: oh. do you know tightvnc?
[16:28] <littlekitty> nemo: that's what i'm trying to run on client
[16:28] <nemo> ok. so you are using Xrdp to connect over vnc
[16:28] <nemo> aight
[16:28] <murlidhar> can anyone help me install themes ?
[16:29] <murlidhar> i tried copying the said files into .themes folder in the home folder but i don't see the list of updated themes in the settings to change
[16:29] <ilhami> Installation failed ! Exit code: 256 Log: WARNING: The deprecated --format option is still available but will be dropped in WoeUSB v3.0!
[16:29] <ilhami> Error: Target device is currently busy, unmount all mounted partitions in target device then try again .Target device is busy, please make sure you unmount all filesystems on target device before detaching it.
[16:29] <littlekitty> i don't think xrdp -kill was a good idea
[16:29] <ilhami> I have to unmount it I guess?
[16:30] <nemo> littlekitty: it doesn't seem to me by default that xrdp (which does support vnc) is actually listening on a vnc port
[16:30] <oerheks> murlidhar, if you copy to your /home/ folder for one user, logout/login again and use gnometweak/unity-tweak tool to set themes
[16:30] <littlekitty> usually it recovers from that error after some time. at least it felt that way, but now nothing
[16:30] <nemo> littlekitty: I just installed it on a random ubuntu server here, and fired it up, and it is only listening on the default RDP port, not VNC
[16:30] <nemo> the config does seem to have options for both
[16:30] <nemo> fiddling w/ it now
[16:30] <scorch> I just went from xenial to zesty, after a restart the window manager doesn't "work", after login I have no menus, no launcher, etc, and opening a folder on the desktop shows the files applooking like a website you removed the css for
[16:30] <murlidhar> oerheks: ah . i guess i have to logout atleast once to get it shown in the unity-tweak tool
[16:31] <littlekitty> nemo: okay thanks ill have a look on my values
[16:31] <murlidhar> oerheks: thanks a million. shall try it right away
[16:31] <oerheks> murlidhar, yes, have fun!
[16:33] <littlekitty> nemo: *
[16:34] <littlekitty> https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/JRNnwXMc/
[16:34] <nemo> littlekitty: it *does* seem to listen on RDP on both loopback and my LAN interface, so I bet that if you tried connecting over RDP instead that it would work just fine
[16:34] <littlekitty> thats what's in my ini
[16:34] <nemo> bonus, RDP might be a little more efficient than VNC - kinda like using ssh -YC - it's a protocol that's a bit more aware of the actual apps ☺
[16:34] <nemo> just a guess tho
[16:35] <nemo> littlekitty: oh. interesting. mine had a lot more stuff in it
[16:35] <nemo> littlekitty: woah. I do hope that username/password is not the actual values 😉
[16:38] <littlekitty> nemo: they are. i used to connect through them. is it that bad?
[16:42] <nicomachus> littlekitty: usually just a bad idea to share usernames and passwords on a publicly logged chat... like this one.
[16:42] <nicomachus> may wanna change that password.
[16:42] <nemo> also not a very strong password
[16:43] <nicomachus> oh wow. I didn't even look until now. That's an AWFUL password.
[16:43] <nemo> also connecting as root is not a good idea if that's the actual user privs and not just a misleading name
[16:43] <nicomachus> ^
[16:43] <oerheks> i love that username :-D
[16:44] <littlekitty> did i just compromise my system by sharing it? :o
[16:44] <oerheks> !precise
[16:44] <nemo> littlekitty: well. not if you change it now ☺
[16:44] <nemo> littlekitty: oh yeah. you should upgrade too
[16:45] <HeroYoojin> xev doesn't show an input event for this one particular button on my laptop (it works for the others, and i took advantage of this to set up a custom terminal-launching shortcut with a special programmable key)
[16:45] <HeroYoojin> so, how can use a tool other than xev to show a button that doesn't show up on xev?
[16:47] <ss23> I have an Ubuntu 16.04 system that has stalled during boot on "Found device .... [intel 10gbe card]", after I enabled the grub kernel parameter ip=(static ip config) on one of these devices
[16:47] <ss23> IS there any way to get more verbose output to see what Ubuntu is doing after it finds the device? Or does anyone know what the issue might be?
[16:47] <nicomachus> littlekitty: you've compromised your system in a couple ways... sharing that info, and running a release that is no longer supported. Upgrade to a supported released and change your password to something a BIT stronger.
[16:47] <ilhami> so if I want dual boot, can I easily do that from the Windows installation process? :)
[16:48] <littlekitty> nicomachus: okay i just changed the password and username. though it still keeps refusing my connection attempts
[16:49] <ragvri_> Hi. The latest version of ubuntu 4.10.0.30 is not working on my system. The screen freezes on the purple screen. However the previous versions of ubuntu are working properly. The problem started when my pc shut down while installing the updates. What should I do?
[16:49] <littlekitty> grep also shows me this: root       762  0.0  0.0  35364   416 ?        S    12:08   0:00 /usr/sbin/xrdp-sesman
[16:49] <nicomachus> littlekitty: after you upgrade to a supported release (14.04 or 16.04) we can help solve that problem.
[16:49] <littlekitty> thats probably causing the problem? if it means session manager I figure
[16:50] <littlekitty> nicomachus: I understand
[16:50] <oerheks> littlekitty, causing problems? we are not going to find out about that..
[16:50] <littlekitty> thanks for helping me out so far nemo, nicomachus
[16:52] <psychoticwarrior> whats up
[16:52] <ragvri_> Hi. The latest version of ubuntu 4.10.0.30 is not working on my system. The screen freezes on the purple screen. However the previous versions of ubuntu are working properly. The problem started when my pc shut down while installing the updates. What should I do?
[16:52] <nicomachus> !patience | ragvri_
[16:52] <ragvri_> Sorry.
[16:53] <nicomachus> ragvri_: what's your graphics card setup?
[16:54] <ragvri_> nicomachus, I have a nvidia graphics card. However, I dont think that is the problem. The problem is that my pc shut down while os updates were being installed.
[16:55] <nicomachus> ragvri_: ah, so the updates never finished?
[16:55] <ragvri_> nicomachus, Yes
[16:55] <nicomachus> why did it shut down? did it crash or did someone shut it down?
[16:55] <ragvri_> nicomachus, Some friend of mine :|
[16:55] <nicomachus> well, that's better than a crash then.
[16:56] <nicomachus> Someone can speak up if I'm wrong, but I think the best route is to boot up a Live USB, mount your installation in a chroot, and then finish the upgrades.
[16:56] <ragvri_> nicomachus, the ubuntu software was showing os updates at that time.
[16:57] <nicomachus> yes. do you have a live usb handy?
[16:57] <ragvri_> nicomachus, Can I do the same by booting into a previous version of ubuntu? I am currently using the previous version
[16:57] <ragvri_> nicomachus, No.
[16:57] <nicomachus> hmm... if you were able to a boot a previous version, I *think* you should just be able to run the upgrades from there.
[16:58] <nicomachus> give it a shot. Open a terminal and run `sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade`, look for any errors.
[16:58] <ragvri_> nicomachus, Can't I just delete the latest kernel and then it will automatically boot to previous version. Then I will install the updates?
[16:59] <nicomachus> can you paste the output to `ls /boot` to a pastebin and link here?
[17:00] <nicomachus> just to make sure you have the proper kernels.
[17:01] <ragvri_> nicomachus, https://pastebin.com/fJMERbjh
[17:01] <ragvri_> nicomachus, I am currently working with 4.10.0.28. The latest version is 4.10.0.30
[17:02] <nicomachus> holy cow
[17:02] <ragvri_> nicomachus, https://imgur.com/a/EgcU8
[17:03] <nicomachus> yea, delete the newest one and then reboot and upgrade.
[17:03] <nicomachus> THEN, delete all those super old kernels with `apt autoremove`
[17:03] <nicomachus> you're going to fill up /boot soon if you aren't careful.
[17:03] <nicomachus> There is absolutely no need to have all those 4.4 and 4.8 kernels still.
[17:03] <ragvri_> nicomachus, ok. Could you give me the set of commands that I need to enter in the terminal?
[17:04] <ragvri_> nicomachus, Ok
[17:04] <ragvri_> please tell me the commands that I need to enter in the terminal.
[17:06] <ragvri_> nicomachus, You there?
[17:07] <nicomachus> ragvri_: sudo dpkg --purge linux-image-4.10.0-30
[17:07] <nicomachus> ragvri_: then reboot
[17:08] <nicomachus> ragvri_: then `sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade`
[17:08] <nicomachus> reboot again just to make sure it's working with the newest kernel.
[17:08] <ragvri_> nicomachus, dpkg: warning: ignoring request to remove linux-image-4.10.0-30 which isn't installed
[17:08] <nicomachus> ugh
[17:08] <nicomachus> ok.
[17:10] <ragvri_> nicomachus, What should I do now?
[17:10] <nicomachus> ragvri_: what does this command show? `dpkg -l | tail -n +6 | grep -E 'linux-image-[0-9]+' | grep -Fv $(uname -r)`
[17:11] <ragvri_> nicomachus, https://pastebin.com/zacPeDbA
[17:12] <nicomachus> ragvri_: ok, the install failed. let's just try to finish the installation of it.
[17:12] <ragvri_> ok
[17:12] <nicomachus> ragvri_: sudo apt -f install
[17:12] <ragvri_> from the previous kernel itself?
[17:13] <nicomachus> just from whatever session you have running now.
[17:13] <ragvri_> oik
[17:15] <ragvri_> nicomachus, Done!
[17:15] <ragvri_> Should I reboot?
[17:15] <nicomachus> ragvri_: what does `uname -r` show now?
[17:16] <ragvri_> 4.10.0-28-generic. I have not yet rebooted
[17:16] <ragvri_> nicomachus
[17:16] <nicomachus> ok, reboot
[17:16] <ragvri_> Will login again on this irc
[17:17] <ragvri_> please wait
[17:17] <nicomachus> ok
[17:20] <ragvri> nicomachus, It worked!
[17:20] <scorch> I just went from xenial to zesty, after a restart the window manager doesn't "work", after login I have no menus, no launcher, etc, and opening a folder on the desktop shows the files applooking like a website you removed the css for
[17:20] <nicomachus> ragvri: great. uname -r shows -30 now?
[17:20] <ragvri> Yes. Thanks a lot
[17:21] <ragvri> nicomachus, Could you tell me the recommended way to update.
[17:21] <nicomachus> ragvri: great. now remove those old kernels! `sudo apt autoremove --purge`
[17:21] <ragvri> nicomachus, Don't I need atleast 1 older version
[17:21] <nicomachus> ragvri: autoremove will keep that 1 older version
[17:22] <ragvri> ok
[17:22] <HeroYoojin> what is snap?
[17:22] <ragvri> wow over 2gb of old kernels, nicomachus
[17:23] <nicomachus> ragvri: yea, exactly. you were going to run out of room on /boot soon
[17:23] <nicomachus> !info snaps | HeroYoojin
[17:23] <nicomachus> ugh
[17:24] <ragvri> nicomachus, What is the preferred way to install a new kernel. All I used to do was, sudo apt-get update and then `sudo apt-get upgrade`
[17:24] <HeroYoojin> !info snap
[17:25] <HeroYoojin> doesn't seem to be the same 'snap' though
[17:25] <nicomachus> ragvri: `sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade` is the new way of doing it. it will upgrade all packages and the kernel.
[17:25] <nicomachus> HeroYoojin: it's not. I hate to say "google it" but you should. you'll find a better explanation than I can provide.
[17:26] <HeroYoojin> does anyone use them?
[17:26] <ragvri> nicomachus, Would it delete the older kernels as well? Also what about the os updates from ubuntu software?
[17:26] <nicomachus> ragvri: the && tells it to run the second command once the first is complete.
[17:26] <nicomachus> ragvri: you'll need to run `sudo apt autoremove` to remove the old kernels. the terminal will remind you to do that when it sees old kernels. "os updates" form Ubuntu Software are kernel upgrades, which are installed in that command.
[17:28] <ragvri> nicomachus, So either I could use the 2 commands that you just told or use the Ubuntu Software. Also why did my os never remind me to delete the older kernels?
[17:30] <oerheks> ragvri, likely they are not installed properly, or paste us the autput of apt autoremove?
[17:30] <oerheks> autoremove kees current and one previous kernel btw
[17:30] <oerheks> c/keeps
[17:31]  * nicomachus wonders if they're marked as manually installed
[17:31] <ragvri> oerheks, I had a lot of older versions installed previously., I didn't know that I needed to remove them manually.
[17:32] <arun007> I am trying to hold packages using apt-mark but only one package can be kept on hold. What to do
[17:32] <oerheks> one version on hold? that is good
[17:33] <arun007> oerheks: ???
[17:34] <ragvri> Thanks a lot guys. My issue was resolved. Bye
[17:34] <nicomachus> o/
[17:35] <ragvri> nicomachus, Could you tell me the difference between apt-get and just apt?
[17:35] <oerheks> arun007, why holding more than one version, is it installed?
[17:36] <arun007> oerheks: Oh no not one version. I said multiple packages. ie, If I type apt-mark hold a b only package b gets on hold not a
[17:36] <oerheks> as of 16.04, it is apt, but apt-get is still available
[17:36] <nicomachus> ragvri: https://itsfoss.com/apt-vs-apt-get-difference/
[17:37] <ragvri> nicomachus, Thanks a lot. I have a class. Got to go. Bye
[17:37] <arun007> and apt-get couldn't be removed
[17:39] <psychoticwarrior> why not install synaptic
[17:39] <psychoticwarrior> apt install synaptic
[17:41] <arun007> psychoticwarrior: I love terminal ;)
[17:41] <psychoticwarrior> terminal rules
[17:41] <psychoticwarrior> :)
[17:42] <psychoticwarrior> synaptic can come in handy too
[17:42] <amirite> hey, i'm getting a cert authority invalid in chrome on a website i maintain but in firefox everything is a-okay, how do i begin to debug this
[17:43] <psychoticwarrior> yea thats a pain in the butt amirite
[17:43] <psychoticwarrior> i had the same problem
[17:43] <psychoticwarrior> try reinstalling chrome
[17:44] <oerheks> amirite,  known issue,  google key is revoked, after 10 years ( pub   dsa1024 2007-03-08 [SC] ) solution: wget -q -O - https://dl.google.com/linux/linux_signing_key.pub | sudo apt-key add -
[17:44] <oerheks> https://www.google.com/linuxrepositories/
[17:44] <RJW2> is anyone around who knows about multi-monitor-setups and could help me with the problem described here: https://askubuntu.com/questions/943084/ubuntu-16-04-and-three-monitors-doesnt-work ??
[17:44] <RJW2> I'd appreciate it a lot!
[17:45] <amirite> oerheks, server side or client side?
[17:45] <amirite> i.e. do i add that key on the server?
[17:46] <oerheks> amirite, on the machine with chrome running
[17:46] <amirite> oerheks, this is a macbook
[17:46] <amirite> and it occurs on my coworkers machines too
[17:46] <amirite> so how is that a solution? should not the solution be server side?
[17:47] <oerheks> well, on the machine with chrome running, any machine i guess? as long it is linux
[17:47] <amirite> i thought the issue would be server-side
[17:48] <oerheks> amirite, you are talking about an update problem? or chrome connecting to that website?
[17:48] <amirite> it doesn't make sense to tell my users to fix stuff on their machine. will the site work for new users who never went to this site before?
[17:48] <amirite> i'm talking about chrome connecting to that website
[17:48] <nicomachus> amirite: relying on Google to fix their repo could be awhile.
[17:48] <amirite> https://kibana.1app.cloudzilla.com/, do you also get it?
[17:48] <oerheks> this is an actual issue namely http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2017/08/fix-google-gpg-key-linux-repository-error
[17:48] <oerheks> requires authentication ..
[17:48] <nicomachus> last time they screwed up the repo, it took 3 weeks to get rid of the warning from the bad encryption alg
[17:49] <Pjaer> Hello, does anybody know if I can use three fingers drag up mouse gesture to show currently open windows?, I have an Asus Elantech touchpad.
[17:49] <nicomachus> Pjaer: I"m sure there's a way to bind that.
[17:50] <nicomachus> Pjaer: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Multitouch
[17:50] <amirite> ok, thanks all
[17:50] <psychoticwarrior> arun007. what are you doing with terminal>
[17:50] <psychoticwarrior> ?
[17:51] <nicomachus> oerheks: amirite: I know that the devs in #chromium are aware of the issue, but I'm not sure they can fix it. I htink Google has to.
[17:52] <amirite> cool, well that's one less ticket i need to deal with
[17:52] <amirite> thanks guys
[17:52] <oerheks> nicomachus, i think it is a silent gesture of google to us, to do something about checking for revoked certificates
[17:52] <nicomachus> ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
[17:53] <nicomachus> I think it's just Google's incompetence/lack of caring about linux
[17:55] <ss23> amirite: I get an error on Windows, so I'm unsure that this is some kind of linux repo problem
[17:55] <ss23> amirite: It looks like you didn't install the certificate chain properly on the server, causing the error. Some browsers will proactively go out and "find" the rest of the chain, some won't
[17:56] <ss23> amirite: https://www.ssllabs.com/ssltest/analyze.html?d=kibana.1app.cloudzilla.com&latest Use something like this to test once you fix the cert issue
[17:56] <oerheks> ss23, he is long gone
[17:57] <ss23> He's still joined to the channel
[17:57] <oerheks> oh, no, i am wrong :-D
[17:57] <ss23> He might see it, or not, but the problem definitly isn't going to be solved by anything on the Ubuntu/Chrome side
[17:57] <amirite> no
[17:57] <amirite> i am here
[17:57] <amirite> thank you
[17:57] <amirite> you are my hero and saved my face from shame and destitution
[17:58] <loppy2> im not real familiar with ssh and putty but can you set it up to where i only recieve ssh connection from particular device (andoid phone) with a fingerprint and ignore the rest even if they get the pass correct? basically like fingerprint access?
[17:58] <ss23> loppy2: To restrict access to a server so that only people who have the "key" have access, you want to use SSH keys
[17:58] <ss23> loppy2: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSH/OpenSSH/Keys
[17:59] <ss23> loppy2: The idea is you'll install a "key" on your devices that you want to allow SSH access from, then on your server, configure it to only allow access when a client presents that key. It's a little smarter than fingerprinting, and works really well
[17:59] <amirite> ss23, how did you determine that we didn't install the cert chain properly? through that ssllabs tool?
[17:59] <ss23> amirite: I just viewed the certificate in Chrome, though you could view it in Firefox the same way
[18:00] <loppy2> thats exactly what i want thanks
[18:00] <loppy2> ss23, does that work on android for instance i want to connect from android to the server so i put the key on the android phone..
[18:00] <ss23> amirite: You can open the developer tools, click Security, then "View Certificate", and (on Windows), you will get the standard Windows interface that lets you view the entire chain of ceritificates. I could only see one
[18:00] <ss23> loppy2: It does indeed. I don't know any SSH clients for Android that don't support keys, so it should be fine. Just transfer the private key to the android device and have a poke around the settings
[18:01] <amirite> hmm
[18:01] <loppy2> thanks ss23
[18:01] <amirite> but isn't it strange ss23 that the certiificate says it's issued by go daddy, expires 2018, and yet it is signed by an unknown authority?
[18:01] <amirite> how is godaddy an unknown authority?
[18:02] <psychoticwarrior> ya really
[18:02] <fosstux> Hi! I'm just trying to setup a server running Ubuntu 16.04 in my DMZ. I have problems searching for updates. Which ports are needed (outbound and inbound)?
[18:02] <psychoticwarrior> fosstux what is the service?
[18:02] <psychoticwarrior> http, ssh, ftp ? etc etc
[18:02] <ss23> amirite: The issue is that your webserver needs to provide another certificate in the chain. It goes... GoDaddy Root Certificate (which comes in all browsers and operating systems) -> GoDaddy Intermediate Certificate (firefox can find this, Chrome cannot, and you don't provide it -- not trusted by root operating systems) -> Your Certificate (which you provide)
[18:02] <fosstux> In my sources.list I use http.
[18:03] <psychoticwarrior> what router are you using?
[18:03] <amirite> ah, i see
[18:03] <ss23> amirite: You need to provide an extra ceritifcate, the one (or more) in the middle that lets Chrome see a complete chain of trust from your certificate all the way back to the root one that it knows about
[18:03] <fosstux> psychoticwarrior, Netgear
[18:03] <ss23> amirite: This should be documented in the GoDaddy SSL certificate install (as you'll need to get the exact certificate chain that is somsehwat specific to your cert)
[18:03] <psychoticwarrior> type in the ip address of the server and the port as port 80
[18:03] <psychoticwarrior> its hard to say cuase i dont have a netgear router available
[18:04] <fosstux> Look. I can access my apache on my server. This is done. But when I run apt-get update it cannot reach the external network.
[18:04] <psychoticwarrior> try synaptic
[18:05] <fosstux> I get Network unreachable.
[18:05] <psychoticwarrior> see if thwat works
[18:05] <psychoticwarrior> can you access the net?
[18:05] <fosstux> ah. okay...
[18:05] <fosstux> one moment...
[18:06] <gabrielc> fosstux: check for the default gateway, firewall rules, dns, etc
[18:06] <psychoticwarrior> check
[18:06] <psychoticwarrior> check /etc/resolv.conf
[18:06] <psychoticwarrior> for dns
[18:06] <fosstux> gabrielc, I can reach the default gateway.
[18:06] <psychoticwarrior> great
[18:07] <psychoticwarrior> try
[18:07] <psychoticwarrior> ping google.com
[18:07] <fosstux> I'm just working on the firewall rules on my Netgear Router.
[18:08] <fosstux> psychoticwarrior, I get the ip address - so dns seems to work. But no packets were received allthough 5 were sent.
[18:08] <psychoticwarrior> ping your gateway
[18:08] <psychoticwarrior> see what you get
[18:08] <gabrielc> fosstux: check nat and firewall rules on router
[18:08] <fosstux> this works.
[18:09] <psychoticwarrior> what works fosstux
[18:09] <fosstux> when I ping the gateway, I get response.
[18:09] <psychoticwarrior> ok
[18:09] <psychoticwarrior> unplug the cord to the router and wait 15 secs and plug back in
[18:10] <fosstux> Outbound I have allowed dns (tcp and udp), http, ftp and ssh. Inbound I have allowed dns (tcp and udp), http, and ftp .
[18:10] <psychoticwarrior> ok
[18:11] <fosstux> And those settings are in the DMZ WAN Rules
[18:11] <psychoticwarrior> ok
[18:11] <psychoticwarrior> you should be goood
[18:11] <fosstux> I'll restart the server
[18:11] <psychoticwarrior> are you still having problems connecting externally?
[18:12] <psychoticwarrior> ok
[18:12] <fosstux> psychoticwarrior, the problem is that I'm connected to the server via lan. This works. When I then run apt-get update, I get Netwoek is unreachable. The problem is, that somehow the server cannot access the internet...
[18:13] <ss23> fosstux: Can you access the internet? As in, ignore the apt part of it. From that server, can you even `curl www.google.com` or similar?
[18:13] <gabrielc> fosstux: test the connection with telnet to google.com (or something) port 80
[18:14] <fosstux> does not look as if... :-(
[18:14] <psychoticwarrior> check synaptic
[18:14] <psychoticwarrior> apt install synaptic
[18:14] <ss23> fosstux: Not really a problem with apt or Ubuntu then. I would go back to how you've configured the DMZ/firewall and fix that, get the internet working etc
[18:14] <psychoticwarrior> see if you can reach it
[18:15] <fosstux> nope. It says Connecting...
[18:16] <gabrielc> fosstux: run "ping -c3 8.8.8.8" and read the output
[18:16] <fosstux> But how can that be - I have allowsed http in- & outbound...
[18:16]  * fosstux is puzzled...
[18:17] <gabrielc> fosstux: and test enabling all
[18:19] <fosstux> gabrielc, so tzo allow everything... right?
[18:19] <fosstux> I get Network is unreachable....
[18:20] <gabrielc> fosstux: allow all only for testing purposes
[18:20] <fosstux> okay.
[18:21] <fosstux> Now it works...
[18:21] <gabrielc> fosstux: ok. good
[18:21] <psychoticwarrior> sweet fosstux
[18:21] <psychoticwarrior> what did you do?
[18:22] <fosstux> I allowed everything from outbound. For testing only.
[18:22] <psychoticwarrior> thats not bad
[18:22] <psychoticwarrior> dont allow everything inbound
[18:22] <psychoticwarrior> then you could get hacked
[18:23] <fosstux> But which port am I missing for outbound??
[18:23] <psychoticwarrior> no idea
[18:23] <psychoticwarrior> paste the results
[18:23] <psychoticwarrior>  http, and ftp
[18:23] <psychoticwarrior> ?
[18:23] <fosstux> What do you mean with Paste the result?
[18:23] <fosstux> ah okay.
[18:24] <gabrielc> fosstux: see the router logs, the connections blocked when running apt
[18:24] <fosstux> okay. thanks. Will do. Bye!
[18:24] <psychoticwarrior> check iptables
[18:31] <loppy2> im geting a connection refused error in putty..i looked the ip address on my pc with ifconfig and also also added a ssh rule in gufw to allow access to port 22 any ideas on what could be wrong?
[18:32] <ss23> loppy2: You are just doing it over your local network at the moment? No internet, just your own personal network?
[18:33] <loppy2> ss23, right now just on the same pc..trying to get it set up to be access from android
[18:33] <loppy2> so yes on same network
[18:33] <gabrielc> loopy2: check if sshd is listening only on 127.0.0.1
[18:34] <oerheks> sudo ufw allow ssh
[18:35] <loppy2> oerheks, i use gufw and i setup the rules you think i should also do the ufw allow ssh?
[18:35] <loppy2> with sudo?
[18:35] <ss23> loppy2: A neat way to debug is to check whether you can SSH from the server back to itself. So, on your server, type in something like "ssh (the ip address you are trying to connect to with your android)" and see if that works
[18:36] <ss23> loppy2: If that does work, it means ssh is listening on the right network interface, so it's a problem at a network level, or firewall, or something like that. If it doesn't work, it's a configuration issue with sshd itself on the server
[18:36] <oerheks> loppy2, you don't need to as you did it yourself, but this is the short route
[18:36] <loppy2> right now im trying to connected it to the computer itself or maybe thats not a good idea lol im new to this
[18:36] <loppy2> where is sshd listening on putty?
[18:37] <loppy2> ss23, i got connection refused on the terminal
[18:38] <ss23> loppy2: Okay, so it looks like sshd is not running or listening. First, we can check if it's running by using a command like "ps aux | grep ssh"
[18:38] <ss23> ps aux will list all the running processes, then the grep will filter it to only show entries that have "ssh" in them
[18:38] <loppy2> ss23, i added a extra 0 at the end i saw a tutorial doing that and it now says no route to host
[18:39] <ss23> You need to use the IP address of your server itself, you can't just copy one you saw elsewhere
[18:40] <loppy2> ss23 well either way its not working
[18:40] <pavlos> loppy2: you should see a line, /usr/sbin/sshd -D in the ps aux if not, sshd is not running
[18:41] <loppy2> do i type grep ssh?
[18:41] <loppy2> if so i did not get any feedback
[18:41] <loppy2> am i supposed to start ssh in the terminal before using putty?
[18:42] <gabrielc> loppy2: another way, run on server side and read the output "sudo netstat -atpn|grep LISTEN|grep sshd "
[18:43] <loppy2> nada
[18:43] <loppy2> ssh is installed
[18:43] <loppy2> how i start it?
[18:43] <loppy2> i though putty would run it
[18:44] <gabrielc> loopy2: android is ssh client. what is the server? name it
[18:44] <psychoticwarrior> try /etc/init.d/ssh start
[18:46] <loppy2> i think what i said maybe confusing but right now gabrielc im trying to connect to my pc from my pc..
[18:46] <loppy2> not andoird
[18:46] <loppy2> android
[18:46] <loppy2> i have not got connection from android yet
[18:46] <loppy2> im using putty on linux
[18:47] <oerheks> systemd: systemctl enable sshd.service  or just start: systemctl enable ssh
[18:47] <psychoticwarrior> or /etc/init.d/ssh start
[18:47] <loppy2> why is there no ssh in init.d when openssh is installed?
[18:48] <oerheks> you want the deamon, sshd
[18:48] <loppy2> oops
[18:48] <loppy2> its not installed rofl
[18:48] <loppy2> hang on
[18:49] <psychoticwarrior> apt install ssh
[18:50] <gabrielc> loppy2:  the package names are openssh-client openssh-server
[18:50] <loppy2> i guess it helps to have it installed huh its working
[18:50] <loppy2> lol
[18:50] <oerheks> snap list ssh
[18:50] <loppy2> i installed with synaptic
[18:50] <loppy2> so if i want to install from my android to my pc i need to have putty running no my pc right?
[18:52] <gabrielc> loppy2: putty is a ssh client, like ssh. sshd is the daemon, the server of the client
[18:52] <loppy2> yes but my question is do i leave it up?
[18:54] <gabrielc> loppy2: on android you can use connectbot as ssh client  to connect to any sshd server
[18:55] <loppy2> gabrielc, i might use that..you think that is the best i have heard about it?
[18:57] <gabrielc> loppy2. i think. it depends on what is needed
[19:00] <loppy2> puttygen -t ssh2 rsa -b 1024 -o keyfile.ppk <[19:03] <gabrielc> loopy2: i do not know. test it. i would use a key with more bits
[19:08] <loppy2> gabrielc, is the password it asks for to just encrypted the keys on the harddrive?
[19:09] <loppy2> i guess that helps prevent someone fron snatches it off the hard drive?
[19:13] <posi> Hello I'd like to make brave browser easier to install than using our custom ppa . What does it take to get into the multiverse. we have a pretty fancy build to make our deb packages
[19:15] <oerheks> https://askubuntu.com/questions/16446/how-to-get-my-software-into-ubuntu >> old answer, pretty much still valid
[19:16] <oerheks> awesome would be in Debian first ...
[19:16] <gabrielc> loppy2: see the putty documentation
[19:17] <nacc> oerheks: in non-free, if it corresponds to multiverse, i think, right?
[19:18] <oerheks> i think it is free https://github.com/brave
[19:19] <nacc> posi: oh, why are you targetting multiverse then?
[19:19] <nacc> posi: tbh, i'd say a snap might be a better choice with the current direction
[19:19] <posi> nacc: neat
[19:19] <posi> i'll check snap
[19:20] <oerheks> 	Mozilla Public License v2
[19:20] <oerheks> hmm
[19:21] <minimec> posi: Maybe ask your question for inclusion in #ubuntu-motu https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU
[19:21] <posi> Cool i didn't consider snap
[19:21] <posi> that might be the way to
[19:21] <posi> I'll try to play with it
[19:21] <oerheks> sure, we need snaps
[19:23] <nacc> and, in theory, you then would be available across multiple distributions without any effort on your part
[19:24] <oerheks> perhaps make those jolly flatpackers happy too
[19:24] <nacc> heh
[19:24] <tcikoritys> So I've got a cheaper Dell laptop here that freezes on boot unless nomodeset is in the boot parameters. It has an Intel graphics card (PCI ID 8086:22b1). This doesn't seem to even be an X problem, I disabled display-manager.service and it still freezes. I installed a missing firmware that update-initramfs wanted (kbl_dmc_ver_1_01.bin), as well as intel-microcode (suggested by `ubuntu-drivers devices`).
[19:24] <tcikoritys> What else can I do to debug/fix this?
[19:25] <brainwash> try with a newer kernel version
[19:26] <tcikoritys> I'm running 4.10, the latest in 16.04 repository I think?
[19:26] <tcikoritys> I can get the exact version if needed, along with tons more info on this thing's hardware. As seems to be the case for these sorts of things for me, Google is no help
[19:28] <Bashing-om> tcikoritys: What hardware and drivers are we working with ? pastebin ' sudo lshw -C display ' . We see were to go from there .
[19:28] <oerheks> sudo lshw -C video, does this give 'i915_bpo' ?
[19:28] <oerheks> bpo = backported
[19:30] <minimec> tcikoritys: I would enable 'persistent' mode for journalctl. You would be able to read out the log of the failed boot with 'journalctl -b1', once booted with the 'nomodeset' option. Journalctl is pretty verbose in the logs.
[19:31] <minimec> tcikoritys: modify 'etc/systemd/journald.conf' and set 'Storage=auto' to 'Storage=persistent' ...
[19:34] <minimec> tcikoritys: oh... You also have to remove the '#' in front of '#Storage' to make it work...
[19:40] <tcikoritys> I enabled persistent storage for journalctl, also here is the display hw paste: http://paste.ubuntu.com/25264899/
[19:46] <Bashing-om> tcikoritys: " *-display UNCLAIMED " ; Ouch ! no driver for an Intel product loaded; strange ! Guess we will want to look at X's log file and see what we can figure out . cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | pastebinit .
[19:46] <antilogic> Hello, is there a way to set 'digital vibrance/color vibrance/color saturation'?
[19:48] <tcikoritys> Bashing-om: Yeah, X didn't even load last time. A bit weird. That log is here: http://paste.ubuntu.com/25264931/
[19:48] <Bashing-om> tcikoritys: reading - I will be awhile .
[19:50] <EriC^^> tcikoritys: are you intentionally running with nomodeset?
[19:51] <tcikoritys> EriC^^: Unfortunately yes. I'd like not to be, but the system crashes if I do.
[19:51] <EriC^^> !info linux-image-generic xenia;
[19:52] <EriC^^> !info linux-image-generic xenial
[19:52] <EriC^^> tcikoritys: try updating the kernel to 89
[19:55] <Bashing-om> !info linux-image-generic-lts xenial
[19:55] <minimec> tcikoritys: Hmmm... I have this idea... With a default ubuntu installation you should have 'xserver-xorg-video-intel' and 'xserver-xorg-video-fbdev' installed. Both should work with intel cards. Now what if you blacklisted one of the two and then the other, to see if there is a difference. I woudl start to blacklist the 'intel' one.
[19:56] <Bashing-om> !info linux-image-generic-lts-xenial xenial
[19:56] <minimec> tcikoritys: would be 'blacklist i915' to blacklist the intel driver.
[19:57] <tcikoritys> minimec: I actually didn't have xserver-xorg-video-intel. I installed it... Come to think of it, that was the last time I had a working X. It also installed something to do with xorg-core or something. I forget the package name
[19:58] <EriC^^> tcikoritys: try "dpkg -l | grep xorg" and paste the link
[19:58] <minimec> tcikoritys: Verify that you also have 'xserver-xorg-video-all' installed.
[19:59] <Bashing-om> tcikoritys: minimec "EE) open /dev/dri/card0: No such file or directory" real strange . The file does not exist for real ? ls -al /dev/dri/card0 .
[19:59] <bipul> Hello, I think my Audio input is not working. How to resolve this issue?
[20:00] <EriC^^> bipul: try alsamixer and see the settings
[20:01] <minimec> Bashing-om: tcikoritys: If he only used the fbdev driver until now, could it be that /dev/dri/card0 is not initialized @boot?
[20:01] <bipul> EriC^^: I typed "alsamixer" Now i am able to see few options to click, like F1,F2,F6 and ESC
[20:01] <tcikoritys> Whatever I was using, it was extremely slow
[20:02] <EriC^^> bipul: look under the audio input you want and see if it's muted or no
[20:02] <bipul> I think i need to go with option F6
[20:02] <acetakwas> What's a recommended DWM? I want to make the move; I run programs like PyCharm.
[20:03] <acetakwas> Chrome, SublimeTest, HexChat and Slack
[20:03] <acetakwas> Ubuntu 16.04
[20:03] <bipul> I am able to view two sound card options 0 HDA ATI HDMI and other is 1 HD-Audio Generic
[20:03] <acetakwas> s/SublimeTest/SublimeText
[20:04] <EriC^^> bipul: is it enabled?
[20:05] <bipul> EriC^^: No by default it is not. I toggled with "M" option
[20:05] <bipul> to make it enable.
[20:05] <Bashing-om> minimec: Iwould hazard a guess that that is correct - if no module is present . Nother thought : xserver-xorg-video-intel -> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-video-intel/+bug/1568604/comments/261
[20:06] <acetakwas> My bad. I meant to ask for a recommended tiling WM
[20:06] <bipul> Now let's see if it works.
[20:08] <brainwash> acetakwas: i3 is THE recommended one
[20:09] <yuken> Does Ubuntu 17.04 come with the necessary drivers for an XBOX 360 wireless dongle?
[20:09] <Bashing-om> minimec: tcikoritys :: The use of xserver-xorg-video-intel driver is discouraged by both ubuntu and debian But we need to find something to replace it .
[20:11] <eelstrebor> interesting, i used gparted to format the thumbdrive for ext3 and it mounts as ext2/3/4!! what's the deal?
[20:11] <minimec> Bashing-om: Yeah... I think the modesetting driver is the better solution and used as default, but as he boots with 'nomodeset' ... ;) I guess it's worth a try.
[20:12] <acetakwas> bipul::  Thanks
[20:13] <bipul> acetakwas: for what? :p
[20:14] <strk> (how) can I specify a network interface alias with network-manager ?
[20:14] <Introoter> I have an ntfs disk i formatted on ubuntu with mkfs.ntfs, whenever i try to mount it, and then copy to it, it says read only
[20:14] <strk> I need two addresses on the same interface
[20:15] <Introoter> i see uid=0 being set in findmnt output
[20:15] <Introoter> why is this happening
[20:15] <Introoter> i do have ntfs-3g
[20:15] <Introoter> is ntfs write support disabled in the ubuntu kernel?
[20:15] <Introoter> but fuse should still be able to do this right?
[20:15] <marahin> Hello! I have libpng installed on my Ubuntu 17.04, however I'm trying to install software (DaVinci Resolve video editor) that requires libpng12. How do I install the older version (but still have the system-wide newest)?
[20:18] <bipul> Well EriC^^ still something is wrong!! Between i have enabled  Speaker option. And i am unable to listen my own voice. Neither I am able to view any activites iside Input section of <Setting/sound>.
[20:18] <bipul> inside*
[20:19] <bipul> I am using Earphones
[20:20] <EriC^^> bipul: mic is enabled in alsamixer?
[20:22] <bipul> EriC^^: I can't see the "Mic" options. I have only 4 options here. Master, Hadphone, Speaker, PCM
[20:26] <acetakwas> I have just install i3, but the [MOD]+D does not bring up a "dmenu"
[20:26] <acetakwas> Is this a known problem?
[20:26] <cluelessperson> hey guys, I've booted ubuntu live usb on a macbook pro, but wifi, keyboard and mouse don't wrok
[20:26] <cluelessperson> how can I at least get wifi to work?
[20:27] <Bashing-om> minimec: tcikoritys:: I have limited experience with Intel drivers, will bve glad to follow minimec lead here as I do not know what to advise presently to install a driver .
[20:27] <brainwash> acetakwas: is dmenu installed?
[20:32] <tcikoritys> Here is the xorg package listing from earlier: http://paste.ubuntu.com/25265139
[20:32] <acetakwas> brainwash::  I think
[20:32] <acetakwas> I ran $ dmenu -v
[20:33] <acetakwas> And there was a result.
[20:34] <brainwash> acetakwas: is [MOD]+D specified in you i3 config file?
[20:34] <tcikoritys> When I installed xserver-xorg-video-intel, it also installed xserver-xorg-core. I thought that would have come by default but...
[20:35] <tcikoritys> A reboot later was when I couldn't use X at all
[20:35] <acetakwas> brainwash::  How do I do that?
[20:36] <bipul> OK EriC^^Thank you very much. :) I got my answer.
[20:36] <oerheks> maybe you installed i3-wm, not the metapackage i3
[20:36] <oerheks> !info i3
[20:37] <minimec> tcikoritys: What do the logs say? Like '/var/log/Xorg.0.log' and journalctl?
[20:39] <tcikoritys> minimec: I haven't tried running X since the last xorg log I pasted. Also IDK why, but journalctl doesn't seem to have a log of the failed boots, even though I set it to use persistent storage
[20:40] <raynold> Ahh it's a wonderful day
[20:40] <minimec> tcikoritys: Did you remove the '#' in front of '#storage=persistent'? I forgot to mention that first...
[20:41] <tcikoritys> minimec: That I did. I noticed it before I saw that message actually :)
[20:45] <minimec> tcikoritys: Ok. let us get things clear again. You had system freezes with 16.04, when booting normal. You are able to boot the system, but with nomodeset, but then you don't have the xserver. Right? Then you added 'xserver-xorg-video-intel'. So with that configuration, booting with option 'nomodeset' you get nothing?
[20:45] <psychoticwarrior> i would choose pci=nomsi
[20:47] <tcikoritys> minimec: I installed the system with nomodeset, because it froze otherwise. It worked, but was slow/jumpy. Then I installed xserver-xorg-video-intel, which also installed xserver-xorg-core. X won't open now, and without nomodeset it still freezes.
[20:48] <acetakwas> oerheks::  I install i3
[20:49] <psychoticwarrior> jack that system up
[20:49] <psychoticwarrior> up up up up
[20:49] <tcikoritys> minimec: Also, journalctl is logging other boots, just not the modesetting ones
[20:51] <loppy2> is there a way to ssh into a currently running program
[20:51] <loppy2> and also can you run grapical using connectbot (android)?
[20:52] <minimec> tcikoritys: So the prevent X from starting you are in recovery mode now, I guess. Well looke like the 'xserver-xorg-video-intel' dirver is not a good solution. Guess we have to remove that one again....
[20:52] <xar-> trying to do an upgrade, packages are being held back, how do I identify the cause (specific package and/or dependency) causing this?
[20:53] <cstaffords> Hello! I need some help with my audio system.
[20:54] <cstaffords> Anyone online?
[20:54] <minimec> tcikoritys: So going back to inital configuration with 'persistent' enabled should give you the logs of the failing boot, when trying a 'normal' boot again.
[20:54] <cstaffords> ?
[20:55] <krytarik> cstaffords: Just ask your question.
[20:55] <minimec> tcikoritys: 'journalctl --list-boots' should show all logged boots...
[20:56] <cstaffords> I need to get support on my audio system on my raspberry pi. My audio control app will not save any settings.
[20:56] <xar-> cstaffords: try #raspberrypi
[20:57] <cstaffords> Thank you!
[21:00] <tcikoritys> Dude... I removed xserver-xorg-video-intel, and the autoinstalled xserver-xorg-core. X was apparently part of that, even though it was automatically pulled in when I installed xserver-xorg-video-intel. What gives?
[21:00] <tcikoritys> Reinstalling xserver-xorg-core I guess, even though I apparently didn't need it before...?
[21:00]  * tcikoritys is confused.
[21:01] <boblamont> Does anyone know of a way to get antimicro for 13.04?
[21:02] <minimec> tcikoritys: Don't install it again, if it's not needed. On the other hand, it will probably change nothing having it installed.
[21:03] <minimec> tcikoritys: Maybe a 'sudo apt autoremove' would mark it as obsolete again... ;)
[21:03] <skinux> How can I send one of my desktops through HDMI, but keep my built-in laptop screen working using the primary desktop?
[21:04] <tcikoritys> minimec: I can't open X anymore, because apparently the /usr/bin/X binary that it was using was in that package... I'm so confused
[21:04] <oerheks> boblamont, 13.04  ppa software is removed from launchpad, so build it yourself? https://github.com/AntiMicro/antimicro
[21:05] <minimec> tcikoritys: Well I do have it installed...
[21:05] <tcikoritys> minimec: So why didn't I? Weirdness abounds
[21:07] <minimec> tcikoritys: I cannot tell you, but I also have the intel driver installed... I switched form the internal intel GPU to nvidia on this installation. So I still have some old packages installed I guess.
[21:09] <boblamont> oerheks: do you think 13.04 will have the necessary dependencies?
[21:10] <oerheks> boblamont, no clue, perhaps not.
[21:10] <oerheks> you would have proper support with 14.04
[21:12] <boblamont> oerheks: I know it would be overall better to use a newer version, but upgrading (at least properly) means I should back everything up first!
[21:17] <oerheks> if you don't have a backup already .. data not important
[21:26] <tcikoritys> Ok, I got X working. Even so, if I disable X and start without nomodeset, it still freezes
[21:26] <boblamont> the files are backed up, but little things like making note of program settings and things...which files I have where for quick access...  for a "full and proper" backup, I go through all that and take screenshots and stuff... (most of which I ignore later, but I like to keep track just in case I want to refer to it later)
[21:29] <oerheks> boblamont, maybe you are better off with 16.04 too..
[21:31] <SomeDamnBody> Does anybody know how I can change the kernel version?
[21:31] <SomeDamnBody> I want to go back some in kernel version because vmware tools aren't working.
[21:31] <boblamont> oerheks: that's what I've got on my other box
[21:32] <minimec> tcikoritys: And performance is still bad I guess?
[21:34] <oerheks> SomeDamnBody, hold shift @ boot and select an older kernel in grub menu
[21:34] <tcikoritys> minimec: Yeah. Everything is very slow and jumpy.
[21:35] <tcikoritys> minimec: I don't think it's Xorg's problem, though. Modesetting freezes even if I don't run X.
[21:36] <minimec> tcikoritys: Now it would be cool to know the output of journalctl, Xorg.o.log. Also install the 'mesa-utils' package and check with 'glx-info' for your current driver state.
[21:38] <minimec> tcikoritys: 'glxinfo | grep renderer'
[21:41] <tcikoritys> minimec: This? OpenGL renderer string: Gallium 0.4 on llvmpipe (LLVM 3.8, 128 bits)
[21:41] <minimec> tcikoritys: Ok. You only have software rendering. That explains the bad performance.
[21:42] <tcikoritys> minimec: Yeah cuz of nomodeset, I'd guess. But how do I fix it freezing otherwise?
[21:44] <tcikoritys> minimec: journalctl is here: http://paste.ubuntu.com/25265538/
[21:44] <minimec> tcikoritys: can you give me the output of 'lshw -c video' again?
[21:45] <tcikoritys> minimec: lshw -C video: http://paste.ubuntu.com/25265550/
[21:46] <tcikoritys> minimec: That's with X running.
[21:46] <tcikoritys> The PCI ID for that card is 8086:22b1 if it helps
[21:49] <jakeri> hmm
[21:49] <jakeri> i have weird problem
[21:49] <minimec> tcikoritys: Yeah I crawled the logs to get the card ID ;) So there is no driver mentioned in 'lshw -c video'. So I guess you are running on the simple framebuffer 'fbdev'.
[21:49] <Bashing-om> tcikoritys: minimec Still on this . Be aware we do need to find a better alternative than booting 'nomodeset' as nomodeset defeats kernel mode setting that affects lots of things .
[21:49] <minimec> Bashing-om: Again... ;) We want back to the start ...
[21:49] <jakeri> if i format a floppy in nautilus, it becomes owned by root
[21:50] <minimec> tcikoritys: So what we would need now is the output of 'journalctl -b1' after a failed 'normal' boot with nomodeset
[21:51] <tcikoritys> minimec:  The failed boots don't log for whatever reason
[21:52] <minimec> tcikoritys: Oh... So it freezes even before journald gets started? That is strange. Because 'systemd' should be 'pid 1' and I guess journald gets started right afterwards.
[21:53] <tcikoritys> minimec: Also IDK if it matters, but it spins up the fan when it freezes
[21:53] <minimec> tcikoritys: Oups... systedmd is not 'pid 1' in ubuntu 16.04
[21:55] <arooni> are new rules added to ufw active immediately
[21:55] <arooni> ?
[21:57] <minimec> tcikoritys: What kernel are you using? 'uname -a'?
[21:58] <gabrielc> arooni: check the rules with "sudo ufw status verbose" or "sudo iptables-save"
[22:00] <punto> hi. is unity already dropped from the latest ubuntu? (17.4)
[22:00] <tcikoritys> minimec: Linux joshtop 4.10.0-30-generic #34~16.04.1-Ubuntu SMP Wed Aug 2 02:13:56 UTC 2017 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[22:02] <arooni> happy123
[22:02] <arooni> so if i cant telnet like; telnet 192.168.1.101 8112 ;; port is not open?
[22:03] <arooni> which is weird because i have an explicit rule set 8112                       ALLOW IN    192.168.0.0/16
[22:03] <gabrielc> aooni: possibly open but not from where you want to start the connection
[22:04] <minimec> tcikoritys: Strange... because I ead an ask.ubuntu.com thread wherea user was rahter pleased with a 4.4.1 kernel. That is higher than the 16.04 standard kernel but much older than the kernel you use... https://askubuntu.com/a/728725
[22:05] <gabrielc> arooni: can you connect to localhost port 8112?
[22:05] <minimec> tcikoritys: But... He is/was using ubuntu 14.04
[22:07] <gabrielc> aroon: you can run "sudo iptables-save |grep 8112" to see if there is any rule for port 8112
[22:07] <arooni> gabrielc: good question let me check
[22:07] <arooni> gabrielc: that would be a no
[22:08] <arooni> gabrielc: ok so now i'm going to do it on port 58846 the port that i can get connected via localhost; but cant connect to elsewhere on the network
[22:08] <arooni> gabrielc: i see two listed; -A ufw-user-input -s 192.168.0.0/16 -p tcp -m tcp --dport 58846 -j ACCEPT ; and -A ufw-user-input -s 192.168.0.0/16 -p udp -m udp --dport 58846 -j ACCEPT
[22:09] <gabrielc> arooni: has the application a filter too?
[22:10] <arooni> gabrielc: yes there is a username and password;  is there a way to test that via telnet ; or do i need another app
[22:11] <gabrielc> arooni: you must read the logs to see if ufw/iptables is blocking the connection attempt
[22:11] <arooni> gabrielc: /var/log/syslog?  somewhere else?
[22:12] <gabrielc> arooni: i think. or with "dmesg". check the ufw log verbosity
[22:14] <gabrielc> arooni: and make connections attemps to ports blocked by the firewall to confirm
[22:39] <arooni> gabrielc: i got it figured out thanks
[22:41] <gabrielc> arooni: you're welcome
[22:45] <donu7> hello
[22:47] <donu7> I'm hoping I can get some help. I'm trying to get an install working. The bootloader is not working. I installed using the dvd to a custom partitioned drive. The drive is partitioned as sda1 - /boot, sda5 is luks encrypted part w/ LVM and the LVM has / and swap.
[22:49] <donu7> the ubiquity installer throws errors installing to sda1 however it left enough intact in both / and and /boot for me to try to cobble something together using grub-install update-initramfs & grub-update but during boot-up i get dropped to initramfs. I get errors about lvmetad.socket -no such file- but no other hints as to what the issue is.
[22:50] <donu7> from what I can tell, lvm & luks modules are loaded but I'm not really sure how to proceed troubleshooting to see what is misconfigured, missing, or failing during bootup. Help?
[22:54] <tomreyn> donu7: you say "the ubiquity installer throws errors installing to sda1" - and you say that sda1 is /boot. what errors did it report? did you try to install grub to sda1?
[22:55] <donu7> I don't get any errors, not even in /var/log/setup/debug (where i was referred to last week) & i didnt find anything useful in syslog. I did try installing to /dev/sda1 which is a partition made for /boot
[22:56] <tomreyn> also, did you check the dvd for defects? compare the downloaded ISO against its checksum and do a live media test by choosing "check disk for defects" when starting up from the dvd
[22:56] <donu7> I actually threw the ISO up into a pxe server
[22:56] <donu7> not sure if that makes a difference
[22:56] <tomreyn> possibly
[22:57] <donu7> now, my goal is to just have the /boot partition be 1G which is 2x bigger than the default install. I haven't found any other way to get a default install w/ a 1G /boot partition.
[22:57] <donu7> actually, i need to clarify that ^
[22:57] <donu7> 1G /boot, encrypted /
[22:57] <tomreyn> but what i dont get is why you say "the ubiquity installer throws errors installing to sda1" and then you say "I don't get any errors, not even in /var/log/setup/debug (where i was referred to last week) & i didnt find anything useful in syslog."
[22:58] <tomreyn> and you should not install grub to a partition but to the MBR if possible
[22:58] <donu7> oh -- right, that's not very clear. My apologies. Using the ubiquity installer, the GUI throws me the error "unable to install bootloader to device /dev/sda1" although the GUI gives me the option to install bootloader to other locations however the GUI is completely unresponsive so i have to pkill the ubiquity process.
[22:58] <tomreyn> if you want a more custom installation you can use the serve rinstaller
[22:59] <donu7> i'll take a look but this is for an employee workstation install
[22:59] <tomreyn> doesn't matter
[22:59] <tomreyn> you'll just install ubuntu-desktop afterwards
[23:00] <tomreyn> i think you can actually choose to also install that (in the tasksel stage) in the serrver installer ("install a graphical desktop")
[23:00] <archpc> anyone here run ubuntu on an acer swift 1?
[23:01] <donu7> I see, i'm trying that now thank you tomreyn
[23:01] <tomreyn> donu7: i agree that the choice provided by the installer about where to install grub to is probably more problematic than useful.
[23:02] <histo> !anyone | archpc
[23:02] <tomreyn> plus i also think that /boot is too small by default
[23:03] <tomreyn> and that there should be a prompt about swap, explaining when to have it and what size to set (or rather doing it base don user choices)
[23:03] <donu7> that's exactly my issue. I've had several people have issues where updates crashed and some binary needed to be repaired because /boot was 100% full during an apt install
[23:03] <donu7> yeah, swap is another issue i had for a while. Even if the partition was encrypted, ubiquity would have issues detecting it
[23:04] <tomreyn> if you are managing installs for an organization there then either use the server installer with preseeding or FAI
[23:05] <clarity510> yo. I’m looking for a new work laptop. I want to run ubuntu. Are Lenovo P51 Xeon well supported?
[23:06] <kenrin> https://certification.ubuntu.com/hardware/201702-25426/
[23:07] <clarity510> sweet thanks
[23:14] <Bashing-om> archpc: Acer requires setting trust to install a different operating system : http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2330267 ; https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2333630 .
[23:17] <donu7> Yeah, I'm planning on figuring out how to automate these installs but I've never really used ubuntu until recently. I've been in centos shops up until this year so I'm familiar w/ kickstart and the such but not aware of the ubuntu version of installation automation
[23:27] <Bashing-om> !aptoncd | donu7 You may also find this interesting
[23:28] <donu7> that's amazing ty!!
[23:30] <Bashing-om> donu7: :) / Might save you a bunch of work .
[23:33] <tcikoritys> Any further advice on getting this modesetting thing to work?
[23:43] <energizer> How do I free space on /boot? I'm trying and failing to autoremove. https://dpaste.de/1cEe/raw
[23:45] <oerheks> no need for -f, try apt-get autoremove
[23:46] <histo> energizer: remove old kernels
[23:47] <oerheks> histo, he is trying that, but that -f is not needed afaik
[23:47] <oerheks> if that does not work, you might have an other problem, maybe your / got mounted ro due to fsck errors
[23:47] <energizer> here i'm trying to remove a specific kernel https://dpaste.de/1xwN
[23:47] <Bashing-om> tcikoritys: Still looking to see what I can come up with , have not abanoned you . Intel; just not that familiar with .
[23:48] <energizer> oerheks: what do you suggest?
[23:48] <oerheks> does apt-get autoremove work?
[23:48] <energizer> oerheks: no
[23:49] <oerheks> can you create any empty file on your ubuntu?
[23:49] <histo> energizer: which kernel are you running currently?
[23:49] <oerheks> or touch somefile.txt
[23:49] <histo> uname -a
[23:49] <kevr> how do i log to cron? does it just take stdout?
[23:49] <energizer> 3.13.0-111-generic
[23:50] <histo> energizer: and it's just complaining because you are removing the kernel and all the header packages no longer can see it.
[23:50] <energizer> Linux voteview 3.13.0-111-generic #158-Ubuntu SMP Wed Feb 22 16:12:03 UTC 2017 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[23:50] <histo> energizer: you can remove those as well.
[23:50] <oerheks> failed to write (No space left on device)
[23:51] <energizer> df -h https://dpaste.de/kZ1f
[23:51] <energizer> touch asdf works
[23:51] <energizer> in ~
[23:51] <Bashing-om> tcikoritys: For my think'n purposes . what results ' sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg ' ?
[23:52] <tcikoritys> Bashing-om: It just runs for a second, then returns to a bash prompt
[23:54] <oerheks> energizer, you could try the one-liner, a script used before autoremove > dpkg --list | grep linux-image | awk '{ print $2 }' | sort -V | sed -n '/'`uname -r`'/q;p' | xargs sudo apt-get -y purge >>> https://askubuntu.com/questions/2793/how-do-i-remove-old-kernel-versions-to-clean-up-the-boot-menu
[23:55] <energizer> oerheks: https://dpaste.de/pa7D
[23:56] <oerheks> :-(
[23:56] <energizer> Indeed.
[23:56] <tcikoritys> Bashing-om: Also, it does seem that systemd is process 1, but either it's not able to save logs or it's just not logging. I can get logs from successful boots with nomodeset, but any boots without it produce nothing.
[23:57] <tcikoritys> Bashing-om: ps 1 is /sbin/init. and `ls -l /sbin/init` gives a link to systemd