[00:02] <Bashing-om> tcikoritys: One issue at a time . To me getting a driver loaded ( not xserver-xorg-video-intel ) is the 1st priority . And yes systemd controls PID1 .
[00:03] <tcikoritys> Bashing-om: Also, not sure if this is the right way to do this, but it seems so from a search. I added 'blacklist i915' to /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf, and did sudo update-initramfs -u. The modesetting boots still fail.
[00:05] <energizer> oerheks: should i `rm` the old kernels?
[00:07] <kevr> how do i log to cron? does it just take stdout?
[00:08] <energizer> kevr: what do you mean log to cron
[00:08] <kevr> syslog gets CRON logging from various cron jobs
[00:08] <kevr> how does that happen
[00:09] <kevr> by the cron job printing to stdout?
[00:11] <donu7> tomreyn, I'm still running through the ubuntu-server install by dd-ing the iso to a usb and booting off of it. So far, it has been a much better experience and I'm expeting it to work -- thank you for that advice.
[00:15] <Bashing-om> tcikoritys: We have to have a driver . and I am trying to come up with a reason why not Intel® Graphics Update Tool 2.0.2 for Ubuntu* 16.04, 64-bit . I would prefer some other solution .
[00:15] <kevr> energizer: ?
[00:16] <tcikoritys> Bashing-om: Would it be good to try? Or why not?
[00:16] <Bashing-om> energizer: " should i `rm` the old kernels? " Not for the faint at heart . That leads to a long hard road to recover from .
[00:16] <energizer> Bashing-om: what do i do instead?
[00:18] <Bashing-om> energizer: Have not followed your issue . but if apt can not work . then it is the realm of dpkg .
[00:18] <energizer> Bashing-om: im out of space on /boot. cant autoremove or apt purge anything
[00:19] <Bashing-om> tcikoritys: What release are we working with ? I can not come up with a better thing than the OEM install .
[00:19] <tcikoritys> Bashing-om: 16.04
[00:22] <kevr> tcikoritys: can you run `lspci | curl -F 'sprunge=<-' sprunge.us` please?
[00:23] <Bashing-om> energizer: Then it is a dpkg thing . get a list ' sudo dpkg -l | grep linux- ' . Then this - a template only - ' sudo dpkg -P linux-image{,-extra}-4.4.0-{46,49,52}-generic linux-headers-4.4.0-{46,49,52}{,-generic} ' where you know what the booting kernel is and DO NOT mess with that booting kernel .
[00:24] <tcikoritys> From that I get: http://sprunge.us/SCYO
[00:26] <Bashing-om> tcikoritys: Yeah,. let's see what kind of issues we run into with the OEM install . http://tipsonubuntu.com/2016/09/07/install-intel-graphics-driver-ubuntu-16-04/ looks pretty easy .
[00:29] <Bashing-om> kevr: tcikoritys We have no driver loaded per lshw -C . maybe effected by nomodeset ?
[00:31] <Bashing-om> energizer: If you do not understand the syntax of the dpkg command, you can dpkg one package at a time - with patience .
[00:31] <energizer> Bashing-om: i am familiar, trying it now
[00:33] <tcikoritys> Bashing-om: That was working, up until it tried to install libglapi-mesa. It wanted to install version 12.something, but 17.0 is installed
[00:35] <tcikoritys> Bashing-om: Sorry. It was trying to install libgles1-mesa
[00:37] <Bashing-om> tcikoritys: Pastebin those outputs and we see what we can do to fix . All I can say is that we have to get some driver installed and this is - I think - a good way .
[00:38] <Bashing-om> !info libgles1-mesa xenial
[00:40] <Bashing-om> tcikoritys: ^^ so a PPA interferring ( version 17) ??
[00:42] <tcikoritys> Bashing-om: Where do I find out? Both of them say "Source: mesa" and "Origin: Ubuntu"
[00:43] <tcikoritys> !info libglapi-mesa xenial
[00:45] <tcikoritys> Bashing-om: This is what I get when I try to `sudo apt install libgles1-mesa` http://paste.ubuntu.com/25266598/
[00:46] <Bashing-om> tcikoritys: Without seeing what you see . To see the origin of the affected packages ' apt policy <package> ' .
[00:48] <tcikoritys> Bashing-om: Here's what I got for those two. Libgles1-mesa http://paste.ubuntu.com/25266611/
[00:49] <tcikoritys> Bashing-om: libglapi-mesa http://paste.ubuntu.com/25266614/
[00:49] <Bashing-om> tcikoritys: What shows ' apt policy libgles1-mesa libglapi-mesa ' ? in a pastebin .
[00:50] <energizer> Bashing-om: perfect, thanks
[00:50] <energizer> back in business
[00:50] <Bashing-om> energizer: Great :) one down 3 to go for me .
[00:51] <Bashing-om> tcikoritys: " Maintainer: Ubuntu X-SWAT " still thin'n .
[00:54] <Bashing-om> tcikoritys: A packaging error ??. lemmee see if I can pull in some additional help here .
[00:57] <nacc> Bashing-om: tcikoritys: what package is it your' trying to install? on xenial?
[00:57] <Geo> Hi, I'm trying to configure ipv6 on ubuntu in vmware and having some issues. I can ping an ipv6 address from the host machine, but get 'network unreachable' when doing it on the vm. eth0 only shows the local link ipv6 address... is there a trick to getting the vm to pick up the ipv6 address?
[00:57] <nacc> taht versioning (12.0.6-0ubuntu0.16.04.1) looks rather wrong.
[00:58] <nacc> Bashing-om: that version was published in xenial-updates on 07/26, but has since been superseded
[00:59] <nacc> oh wait, that's odd
[00:59] <tcikoritys> nacc: I'm trying to fix a problem with modesetting graphics drivers that freeze the system. Toward that end I downloaded the Intel graphics updater, which is trying to install libgles1-mesa. The version it's trying to install depends on an old version of libglapi-mesa
[01:01] <Bashing-om> nacc: when I look at libgles1-mesa, wants 12.0.6-0ubuntu0.16.04.1 . Looking at apt show libgles1-mesa it says it wants Depends: libglapi-mesa (= 12.0.6-0ubuntu0.16.04.1) . But ' sysop@x1604:~$ apt list libglapi-mesa ' has " libglapi-mesa/xenial-updates,now 17.0.7-0ubuntu0.16.04.1 amd64  " .
[01:02] <tcikoritys> nacc: The interesting thing is, this has nothing to do with X. If I don't have nomodeset in the kernel parameters, the whole system freezes before systemd gets a chance to log anything. I set journalctl to use persistent storage, in hopes that it would capture something but...
[01:02] <nacc> Bashing-om: ack, that's odd
[01:03] <nacc> Bashing-om: it's also odd that it comes from the same source (mesa) as liblapi-mesa
[01:03] <nacc> *libglapi-mesa
[01:04] <Bashing-om> nacc: Tgat is why I asked for an experienced set of eyes here :)
[01:04] <Bashing-om> That*
[01:04] <nacc> ah
[01:04] <nacc> i think i see what has happened
[01:05] <nacc> 17.0.0~rc3-1 dropped libgles1
[01:05] <nacc> in favor of libgles2
[01:05] <Bashing-om> tcikoritys: I do know from experience that if the system can not find a graphic's driver it can and does drive the system nuts .
[01:06] <Grandolf> hi, is it possible to cennect to multiple channels/servers useing irssi?
[01:06] <bazhang> Grandolf, sure is, why not ask for more in #irssi
[01:06] <Bashing-om> Grandolf: Yes. Join #irssi for assistance .
[01:07] <oerheks> Grandolf, channels yes, servers maybe, if you use a higher port to connect, there is an #irssi channel here on #freenode
[01:07] <nacc> Bashing-om: i'll ask the maintainers I know
[01:07] <Grandolf> thks
[01:07] <Bashing-om> nacc: K. in the mean time tcikoritys is on hold ?
[01:08] <nacc> Bashing-om: this is only an issue because the intel graphics driver (installer) has a dep on it?
[01:08] <tcikoritys> Also, IDK if it helps, but here are the kernel modules that are currently loaded. This is with nomodeset and X running: http://paste.ubuntu.com/25266712/
[01:08] <nacc> tcikoritys: yeah, it shouldn't have anything to do with the kernel (this particular packaging issue, at least)
[01:09] <nacc> tcikoritys: so i think in the archive itself, everything htat did depend on gles1 has been rebuilt at this point
[01:09] <nacc> tcikoritys: so it's probably a bug in the intel installer, tbh
[01:09] <nacc> tcikoritys: i'll still track down why/if gles1 needs an update so it's not present (or is a dummy package)
[01:10] <tcikoritys> nacc: Thanks :)
[01:11] <Bashing-om> nacc: Honestly, I do not know what all this effects .
[01:11] <tcikoritys> nacc: Anything potentially for the nomodeset issue? The whole reason I'm trying to use the graphics drivers tool is because I cannot use my system without nomodeset
[01:11] <nacc> tcikoritys: sorry, I don't know much about the graphics subsystem itself
[01:12] <nacc> Bashing-om: yeah, it looks like it was intentionally done (http://launchpadlibrarian.net/325594809/mesa_12.0.6-0ubuntu0.16.04.1_17.0.7-0ubuntu0.16.04.1.diff.gz), but it's unclear what the binary package itself should do (it feels like a binary package removal in a release is a bad idea (TM))
[01:13] <nacc> Bashing-om: in that, there should be dummy binary packages to replace them
[01:13] <nacc> Bashing-om: appears to be related to the 16.04.3 stack
[01:15] <nacc> (a la LP: #1687981 per changelog)
[01:16] <Bashing-om> tcikoritys: nacc Know issue ? as Intel " Due to a known issue with Ubuntu* 16.04, third party applications cannot be launched automatically via Ubuntu's package manager. Ubuntu* 16.04 users must install the gdebi tool which will enable them to successfully run the Update Tool. See the following link for detailed instructions:" .
[01:16] <nacc> Bashing-om: hrm, strange -- I don't usually use the GUI, so I'm not sure what it's referring to
[01:16] <nacc> Bashing-om: what's the link?
[01:17] <oerheks> in this situation, i would try 17.04 instead of 16.04+hwe
[01:17] <Bashing-om> nacc: That from the installer page at the bottom : https://01.org/linuxgraphics/downloads/intel-graphics-update-tool-linux-os-v2.0.2 .
[01:17] <nacc> oerheks: yeah, that might be a good idea
[01:18] <oerheks> any situation actually , with HWE :-D
[01:18] <Bashing-om> tcikoritys: ^^ Lot of skills, knowledge and experience say that .
[01:19] <nacc> just a shot in the dark, i'm guessing htat intel hasn't updated their tool for 16.04.3
[01:19] <nacc> based upon their deps and versions
[01:20] <nacc> intersting and in 17.04, they don't use those deps at all: https://01.org/linuxgraphics/downloads/intel-graphics-update-tool-linux-os-v2.0.5
[01:20] <nacc> Bashing-om: --^
[01:20] <Bashing-om> nacc: Ouch, I had not considered that in my recomendation to install ( no driver is installed ) the OEM driver .
[01:21] <nacc> Bashing-om: nor do they recommend using gdebi anymore
[01:21] <nacc> Bashing-om: even stranger, they say that 16.04 is obsolete  with 2.0.2
[01:21] <nacc> Bashing-om: ... doesn't seem quite right
[01:22] <nacc> Bashing-om: so yeah, i would avoid the intel stuff with hwe
[01:22] <nacc> Bashing-om: doesn't seem current, at least
[01:22] <nacc> stepping away for the evning, i'll let y'all know if i hear anything from the devs on that package
[01:25] <Bashing-om> nacc: Took me hours to come to the conclusion to try OEM as a means to get a driver for tcikoritys . I just had no better suggestion at that time . the use of xserver-xorg-video-intel is discouraged .
[01:27] <Bashing-om> tcikoritys: The question now is if we have a broken system on our hands ?
[01:29] <tcikoritys> Bashing-om: It's been broken :) That's what the nomodeset was for.
[01:29] <hfp> Hi, I changed mountd's port to a fixed port because of my firewall. Is there a way to have it restart using the assigned port without restarting the machine? I tried restarting nfs-kernel-server and nfs-mountd but no luck, only a full reboot changed the port.
[01:30] <Bashing-om> tcikoritys: Yeah, but with the failed driver install. is it broken to the point cannot be used ?
[01:30] <tcikoritys> Bashing-om: Nah, it's still usable, but software rendering makes it just barely usable.
[01:31] <unicornjedi> Bashing-om: yo
[01:32] <Bashing-om> tcikoritys: What kernel are you booting ( uname -r ) . Maybe we use the 17.04 installer from Intel ??
[01:32] <Bashing-om> unicornjedi: Uh Huh ?
[01:33] <unicornjedi> Bashing-om: i'm that one dude from yesterday who had trouble backing up my system. So you recommended rdiff-backup?
[01:33] <tcikoritys> Bashing-om: 4.10.0-30-generic #34~16.04.1-Ubuntu SMP Wed Aug 2 02:13:56 UTC 2017
[01:35]  * tcikoritys is getting something to eat, but will be back in  a bit
[01:37] <unicornjedi> Bashing-om: how do you back up your system?
[01:40] <Bashing-om> unicornjedi: Not recommend anything I do not use . my backup tool is rsync to be truthful .
[01:41] <oerheks> tons of options to backup
[01:41] <oerheks> !backup
[01:41] <Bashing-om> unicornjedi: I see no point in backing up a system - only my personal files . All system files are on the installer !
[01:43] <unicornjedi> Bashing-om: You don't want to rollback in case something happens to your system?
[01:44] <oerheks> backup system <> backup data
[01:44] <Bashing-om> unicornjedi: I have broke my system OH ! so many times . takes me 20 minutes to re-install and copy my data back :)
[01:46] <unicornjedi> Bashing-om: XD you are bamf
[01:47] <unicornjedi> I suppose I'll only backup /etc and home
[01:49] <unicornjedi> and maybe the apt history log so I remember what I install on my system
[01:50] <Bashing-om> unicornjedi: Took me a few times to have confidence in restoration of the system . I am a believer - for my use case - my personal data and I maintain a change log of all changes I make to the system .
[01:50] <unicornjedi> Bashing-om: so you have a journal you handtype (or write) with what you do with your system?
[01:52] <unicornjedi> oh by the way. I made some backups with rdiff and they are too big. Can I just rm -R the directory I backedup?
[01:52] <unicornjedi> Bashing-om: After talking with you, I realized I don't need to waste valuable space on my hard drive for a full system back up
[01:53] <unicornjedi> thats why I want to delete those backup's I made
[01:53] <Bashing-om> unicornjedi: dpkg --get-selections >> sudo dpkg --set-selections : http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=261366 . My file is a file I keep on the system ( and back it up too !) .
[01:53] <HeroYoojin> acpi_listen gives a keycode or scancode for a special button on my keyboard, but xev doesn't detect it as a keycode.  what do i edit or modify to enable this keypress event to actually get converted into a keycode?
[01:54] <Bashing-om> unicornjedi: an rdif backup directory . sure it is just files . remove them if ya need the space .
[01:54] <HeroYoojin> man setkeycodes --- will this help?
[01:56] <HeroYoojin> showkey -s      doesn't give me a scancode... this key might be being intercepted by acpi
[01:57] <HeroYoojin> showkey       -- this is giving me a keycode of over 255 (which x will not support)
[01:58] <unicornjedi> Bashing-om: you sure that there isn't a command to properly remove it?
[02:00] <Bashing-om> unicornjedi: Nope, do not use the ap . But I can not imagine that rm'n it can cause any alarm .
[02:00] <oerheks> heh, he didn't say such thing
[02:00] <unicornjedi> oerheks: o.o  ????
[02:02] <oerheks> " sure it is just files " so not that difficult to remove
[02:02] <unicornjedi> Hey, I'm just being careful lol
[02:03] <unicornjedi> Now the question is... How am I going to backup my 100gb Windows machine image...
[02:03] <unicornjedi> it's so big
[02:03] <Bashing-om> unicornjedi: "careful is no accident" :)
[02:03] <unicornjedi> that's what she said
[02:05] <unicornjedi> i ran ls and some of the directories are highlighted. dafuq that mean
[02:07] <cmanns> How are the video drivers 3d wise on steam games for high end AMD cards?
[02:13] <Bashing-om> unicornjedi: Color is a nicity set in .bashrc .
[02:16] <unicornjedi> Bashing-om: nicity?
[02:16] <unicornjedi> nice value?
[02:18] <Bashing-om> unicornjedi: meant a nice thing .
[02:20] <Bashing-om> unicornjedi: .bashrc : eval "$(dircolors -b)" >> alias ls='ls --color=auto' .
[02:20] <unicornjedi> ah
[02:54] <scorch> I just went from xenial to zesty, after a restart the window manager doesn't "work", after login I have no menus, no launcher, etc, and opening a folder on the desktop shows the files applooking like a website you removed the css for
[03:03] <Jordan_U> scorch: Were there any error messages during the upgrade?
[03:04] <Jordan_U> scorch: How did you upgrade?
[03:04] <scorch> Jordan_U: yeah broken python3.5 (had source built it before)
[03:04] <scorch> removed source build and apt-get install -f fixed the rest
[03:04] <scorch> after restart the above happend
[03:06] <Jordan_U> scorch: How did you upgrade?
[03:07] <scorch> do-release-upgrade
[03:07] <Jordan_U> scorch: Please pastebin the output of "sudo apt full-upgrade".
[03:09] <scorch> Jordan_U: huh, about the same about of packages as before upgrade; maybe it didn't complete
[03:10] <scorch> can't paste bin it, but I went ahead with what it said
[03:14] <Jordan_U> scorch: Yeah, apt -f install just resolved the conflicts this should get you upgraded the rest of the way (though unfortunately you won't get some of the post-upgrade cleanup that do-release-upgrade would have done had there been no errors).
[03:15] <scorch> got it, thanks for the help
[03:15] <Jordan_U> You're welcome.
[04:31] <scorch> after upgrade to 17.04 dhclient always segfaults wehn run
[04:43] <scorch> nevermind, apparmor fixed it
[04:57] <auctus> in ubuntu 16.04, i used to just go shared my wifi over an ethernet cable via the gui, im using 17.04 now and it seems not to work at all that way
[05:00] <AriSc2> Hey all. Anyone here ever get stuck on Get?
[05:01] <Nobun> AriSc2: please explain your question
[05:02] <AriSc2> @Nobun when I try to run apt-get update or apt-get upgrade nothing ever downloads, it sticks at get then the server address. Nothing doing when I swap what servers it connects to or run apt-get clean
[05:02] <Nobun> AriSc2: did you type "apt-get update" or "sudo apt-get update" ?
[05:07] <FrEtEgI> evening folks
[05:07] <AriSc2> @Nobun I'm in Su mode currently
[05:07] <FrEtEgI> so working on installing wine in a new ubuntu-mate 16.04.3 install...  am i correct that the official branch is the ppa:ubuntu-wine/ppa
[05:07] <FrEtEgI> and limited to version 1.8?
[05:08] <FrEtEgI> just need to make sure im getting the most stable stuff is the thing, coming from gentoo and I have 2.xx stable there.. just making sure i stick to the distro's stuff as best i can is all
[05:10] <Nobun> FrEtEgI: I think your question is out of topic here. However, on personal experience, I would suggest to use the lastest wine version and have multiple wine versions into your system than trying to guess wich one is more "stable"
[05:10] <Nobun> for example to run steam windows client you will now require (after last client update) at least wine 2.13 (lastest version is 2.14)
[05:11] <FrEtEgI> Nobun: well wasnt sure if it was more a directed issue to ubuntu or not.  i tried to install the winehq ppa and winetricks was a mess.  couldnt get gecko or mono to install... just a nightmare
[05:12] <Nobun> AriSc2: not sure what could be your problem. I would try to use apt-get on a standard session (not a su one) using the sudo command
[05:12] <FrEtEgI> hwo about this, are you running the 2.xx version and if so what repo did you use?
[05:13] <mobal> good morning!
[05:13] <AriSc2> @Nobun when I exit and try with sudo it's the same. Although, for whatever reason, apt-get upgrade worked. update from private PPAs still doesn't though
[05:15] <Nobun> sorry.... I have no idea how to help you, than :(
[05:16] <AriSc2> It's okay mate. I think it's a problem with the PPA I'm using
[05:17] <AriSc2> Silly runescaoe
[05:47] <lotuspsychje> good morning to all
[06:26] <SubatomicParticl> Good evening. I seem to have a broken package that is hanging apt up to the point I am considering a fresh install of Ubuntu 16.04.3, which I would like to avoid.
[06:27] <dshap> Hey everyone -- all of a sudden today my production web server (running Ubuntu 14.04) started going down, and I'm trying to figure out why. By "going down" I mean I couldn't SSH into it, and when I rebooted the server (on EC2), I checked syslog and the first time I had this problem earlier today it showed memory issues, but then a few hours later it went down again and syslog didn't seem to show the same memory issues. What else should I look int
[06:27] <dshap> diagnose what could be causing this?
[06:28] <lotuspsychje> SubatomicParticl: can you hastebin the problem of the apt error?
[06:28] <lotuspsychje> dshap: perhaps the #ubuntu-server channel can help
[06:28] <dshap> lotuspsychje: Will post in there, thanks!
[06:30] <SubatomicParticl> Sure. Give me a moment to figure out pastebin. It's only when I try to apt install or apt remove a package, which makes it spit error code 2 (i/o error on behalf of libselinux1:i386) at me.
[06:32] <SubatomicParticl> http://paste.ubuntu.com/25268216/ Here's the pastebin link.
[06:35] <SubatomicParticl> I've tried using sudo apt install --reinstall libselinux1:i386 to reinstall the package that's hanging it up, but, again, that package must contain apt since it's trying to use the package to reinstall itself. Any idea how I can fix it? I'd like to avoid a fresh install, since that would take 2-3 days due to my internet speed.
[06:36] <edwinksl> SubatomicParticl: similar problem to what you have https://askubuntu.com/a/140636/15003
[06:36] <ranjan> hi all, I have a Linux box whose / partition is 100% utilised when using df command, but then when using du -shx /, show there is a lot of free space.
[06:37] <SubatomicParticl> Ah, geez. I found that earlier, but felt uncomfortable doing such a task... Thanks.
[06:40] <SubatomicParticl> Uh. We MIGHT have a slightly bigger problem. I used ctrl+f and typed in the package name with the find function. It's red, meaning there is no entry for it.
[06:42] <lotuspsychje> ranjan: i use bleachbit to clean out & make free space
[06:43] <ranjan> lotuspsychje: this is a server, and I dont have UI.
[06:44] <lotuspsychje> ranjan: bleachbit can be used on cli also i think
[06:44] <lotuspsychje> ranjan: or perhaps #ubuntu-server channel might know better server tools for that
[06:47] <ranjan> lotuspsychje: thank you. let me try that
[06:50] <SubatomicParticl> lotuspsychje: I tried edwinksl 's post he gave me, but the dpkg status file has no entry for libselinux1:i386. It has libselinux1, but not the 32-bit edition, which is the one causing me errors.
[06:53] <SubatomicParticl> Wait, I found it. How do I remove the entry?
[06:55] <SubatomicParticl> Nevermind. I can handle it. Thanks for the help.
[07:20] <maja> ugggg i got this usb headset that ubuntu17 says is working fine but i can't get any sound out of it, though the mic seems to work fine..... any ideas ?
[07:23] <hateball> maja: did you check that it is set as primary audio device?
[07:23] <hateball> in your volume applet
[07:26] <maja> hateball: yes yes
[07:26] <maja> hateball: i had to run aslamixer as root
[07:32] <FrEtEgI> ok tring to chase down why simples-can cannot see my printer
[07:33] <FrEtEgI> it will print, but not scan... ubuntu-mate 16.04.3. now i have another linux mint17 install that works perfectly
[07:34] <FrEtEgI> on the launchpad.net/ubuntu site they have more recent gutenprint packages but not sure how to install them and the driver in use at the moment on both machines is gutenprint
[07:38] <FrEtEgI> try again tomorrow.  have a good night guys
[08:11] <auctus> i cant get ubuntu 17.04 to share my laptop internet to my desktop over ethernet cable (wifi into laptop, out over ethernet to desktop)
[08:12] <auctus> was trivially simple in 14.04-16.10, i never had a problem on any version, not sure how to diagnose this one
[08:12] <auctus> i set it to shared in the GUI network applet thing, always worked before, does, apparently, nothign now
[08:20] <vlt> auctus: I never used a gui applet. But it should be possible to `echo 1 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward` and `iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -j MASQUERADE`
[08:25] <MasterOfDisaster> Hey, I got a question concerning the qla2xxx driver on 14.04.4 LTS. It seems that {rx,tx}_words in /sys/class/fc_host/*/statistics remain 0. The card is a Fibre Channel: QLogic Corp. ISP2532-based 8Gb Fibre Channel to PCI Express HBA (rev 02).
[08:25] <MasterOfDisaster> {rx,tx}_frames increase though. I've looked at the driver's manual by QLogic, but there's no hint on why that might be. Any ideas?
[08:39] <brainwash> MasterOfDisaster: contact QLogic
[09:00] <jimbju> Hi, I want to start a process at boot time as a specific user, not runas user 'xyz' by root,
[09:01] <EriC^^> jimbju: add it to the user's crontab
[09:01] <EriC^^> @reboot command
[09:10] <roy> hi
[09:10] <roy> guyz while using apt-get dist-upgrade getting an error
[09:10] <roy> https://pastebin.com/MQ49038B
[09:10] <jimbju> EriC^^: Thanks!
[09:12] <roy> guyz while using apt-get dist-upgrade getting an error
[09:12] <roy> https://pastebin.com/MQ49038B
[09:12] <roy> the output is here
[09:13] <roy> its basically says that hash mismatch
[09:13] <roy> I have already tired sudo rm -rf /var/lib/apt/lists/*
[09:14] <roy> but no fruitful result
[09:14] <roy> TheRedQueen, please help me
[09:15] <EriC^^> jimbju: bo problem
[09:15] <EriC^^> *no problem
[09:16] <EriC^^> roy: did you try sudo apt-get update ?
[09:37] <anddam> hello, is there a way to add a kernel command option to a grub entry so that it's persistent when rd are rebuilt?
[09:44] <anddam> I figure GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT from /etc/grub.d/
[09:49] <EriC^^> anddam: yes
[09:49] <EriC^^> */etc/default/grub
[09:58] <pumba> hey all
[10:13] <pumba> what are some good video chat apps for ubuntu?
[10:45] <oost> Hi i am considering ubuntu for my parents on a medion pc. They have a printer. Can i can this printer to print on ubuntu? Printer is a "Brother MFC-L2700 DW". Thank you.
[10:50] <bobandy> yes
[10:50] <hateball> oost: they seem to provide drivers at least http://support.brother.com/g/b/downloadtop.aspx?c=eu_ot&lang=en&prod=mfcl2700dw_us_eu_as
[10:55] <oost> Ah, ok. Should i check the deb file for compabilities with (latest)ubuntu first?
[10:57] <oost> And is it possible to test the printer driver well under a live session?
[10:59] <geirha> oost: yes
[11:00] <boxrick> I have some extremely simple network config that 'service networking restart' seems to have issues with, it all appears fine to me. Anyone see anything obviously wrong? https://gist.github.com/boxrick/52c93d51e13008a0e2ddc90dc3dee95a
[11:01] <geirha> oost: first try to install the printer normally, chances are ubuntu already has the drivers in its repositories... System Settings -> Printers -> Add Printer ...
[11:04] <oost> geirha: ok. i will check that when i am with my parents... Thanks!
[11:14] <acresearch> people, i have a .mp3 file and i want to trim it (from 1 hour to just last 10 seconds), i have ffmpeg installed, how can i go about doing this?
[11:16] <hateball> acresearch: Is there a reason you need to do it with ffmpeg rather than just opening it in audacity?
[11:16] <brainwash> acresearch: I suggest asking in #ffmpeg
[11:16] <acresearch> hateball: won't audacity lose quality if i open it, trim it then export it again?
[11:18] <oost> Another question, this PC where i am about to install ubuntu on. It has UEFI and windows 8.1... Is ubuntu compatbile with UEFI? And can i just install grub on this machine? (are these two things just as easy as it was under bios with windows xp installed on hard disk)
[11:18] <hateball> acresearch: I suppose so
[11:18] <brainwash> !uefi
[11:19] <hateball> acresearch: googling suggests that mp3splt can do it lossless
[11:19] <hateball> !info mp3splt
[11:22] <oost> ty
[11:29] <EriC^^> oost: it's easy more or less, sometimes you'll keep getting windows starting and not grub and the solution to that depends on the motherboard manufacturer, just fyi in case that happens with you
[11:30] <oost> thanks again!
[11:32] <loppy2> ssh only allows for connections from authorized keys automatically right? or do i need to set up some rules to restrict access only from authorized keys?
[11:34] <EriC^^> loppy2: by default it accepts passwords
[11:35] <EriC^^> if you only want keys then edit /etc/ssh/sshd_config and set PasswordAuthentication to no
[11:36] <EriC^^> and restart ssh with "sudo service ssh restart"
[11:36] <loppy2> EriC^^, so you mean it does need a authorized key but if they know the root password they can get in?
[11:36] <loppy2> cool thanks
[11:36] <loppy2> thats what i wanted
[11:38] <EriC^^> loppy2: no by default if they know the root password it won't work i think
[11:38] <EriC^^> loppy2: pastebin /etc/ssh/sshd_config and i can tell you how it's set up right now
[11:39] <loppy2> well it has passwordauthentication commented out ..it has yes but its commented out ..not sure what that means
[11:39] <loppy2> EriC^^, you think i should uncomment and then put no and reboot?
[11:39] <EriC^^> loppy2: you're going for keys + password for any user including root?
[11:41] <loppy2> EriC^^ well either way ..just keys or keys + root..https://zerobin.net/?3111283e336bb9be#0S0UXCmljYqJH3Zl7eTQGTv8v7kbeYetY+rVM6xm0BQ=
[11:41] <lordl> Hello guys! Could you help me with something? I want automatic login for Shellinabox, is that possible?
[11:42] <loppy2> preferably just keys because i think the key login seems secure
[11:42] <loppy2> its a 4096 bit key
[11:42] <loppy2> ive already logged in with it but i dont want someone just trying to get it in with root pass
[11:43] <loppy2> just root pass
[11:43] <EriC^^> loppy2: it says paste has expired, if you just want keys then set passwordauthentication to no and uncomment it out, also setPubkeyAuthentication yes and PermitRootLogin prohibit-password
[11:44] <EriC^^> loppy2: it says paste has expired, if you just want keys then set passwordauthentication to no and uncomment it, also set PubkeyAuthentication yes and PermitRootLogin prohibit-password
[11:45] <loppy2> EriC^^, i can sent it to you by pm someone is being nosy it burns after read hand on
[11:45] <EriC^^> loppy2: oh ok
[11:46] <EriC^^> sure go ahead
[11:51] <mingdao> after installing Ubuntu Mate 17.10 it only loaded to a grub shell with grub>
[11:51] <mingdao> I managed to get it to boot
[11:51] <mingdao> now I can't ssh into the machine; how to start ssh?
[11:51] <EriC^^> mingdao: is it uefi?
[11:51] <EriC^^> mingdao: so the booting issue is solved?
[11:52] <mingdao> EriC^^: it does have sda1 as UEFI system partition, but I had to set root (hd0,2) and found files in there
[11:52] <mingdao> EriC^^: so it's not solved, but I could do that again
[11:52] <mingdao> EriC^^: if I could start ssh it would help ;)
[11:52] <mingdao> EriC^^: from ps aux it seems to have systemd as init, and I've never used systemd
[11:52] <mingdao> so a bit lax at how to start ssh
[11:53] <EriC^^> mingdao: install the ssh server "sudo apt-get install openssh-server"
[11:53] <mingdao> EriC^^: http://termbin.com/xn4i
[11:53] <mingdao> ok
[11:53] <EriC^^> "sudo systemctl enable ssh" to enable and "sudo systemctl restart ssh" to restart it
[11:54] <mingdao> EriC^^: I'm already root # so I assume I can leave off sudo now
[11:54] <mingdao> I sudo su - to root
[11:54] <EriC^^> yeah no need for sudo
[11:54] <mingdao> ;)
[11:54] <mingdao> I'm old school Linux user
[11:54] <mingdao> since 2003
[11:54] <EriC^^> cool
[11:55] <mingdao> also my wired NIC doesn't even show up in lspci output
[11:55] <mingdao> I did connect wireless, so there must be firmware
[11:55] <mingdao> I forget what the wired NIC is on here; maybe r8169
[11:55] <mingdao> but haven't found the kernel config to grep yet
[11:56] <mingdao> great, I'm in now
[11:57] <mingdao> Linux dell 4.11.0-10-generic #15-Ubuntu SMP Thu Jun 29 15:03:41 UTC 2017 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[11:57] <mingdao> maybe I selected the wrong image?
[11:57] <mingdao> should be the one w/out generic?
[11:58] <mingdao> found the config /lib/modules/4.11.0-10-generic/build/.config
[11:59] <mingdao> EriC^^: can I somehow install grub properly now?
[11:59] <EriC^^> sure
[12:00] <EriC^^> mingdao: type "(blkid; cat /boot/efi/efi/ubuntu/grub.cfg) | nc termbin.com 9999"
[12:01] <mingdao> http://termbin.com/z5y4
[12:01] <mingdao> before you did that I issued blkid and mount
[12:01] <mingdao> let me get you grub.cfg
[12:02] <mingdao>  /boot/efi/efi/ubuntu/grub.cfg: No such file or directory
[12:02] <mingdao> I'll show it ... it's on /dev/sda2
[12:02] <mingdao> no, sorry
[12:02] <mingdao> root@dell:~# ls -l /boot/efi/EFI/
[12:02] <mingdao> BOOT/   debian/ ubuntu/
[12:03] <EriC^^> yeah
[12:03] <EriC^^> what's inside "ubuntu" ?
[12:04] <mingdao>  nc termbin.com 9999 < /boot/efi/EFI/debian/grub.cfg  -->  http://termbin.com/fd7v
[12:04] <mingdao> it's in debian
[12:04] <EriC^^> mingdao: you're using ubuntu to boot though right?
[12:04] <EriC^^> that's the grub you want appearing?
[12:04] <mingdao> ubuntu and BOOT just have efi stub(s)
[12:05] <mingdao> it is all that's on the drive
[12:05] <mingdao> you saw my blkid?
[12:05] <EriC^^> mingdao: yeah, not having grub.cfg there would give you a grub> i'd imagine
[12:05] <mingdao> no, when I did the grub> I had to point it there
[12:05] <mingdao> there was no debian entry in the UEFI menu iirc
[12:06] <EriC^^> ok, type "grub-install" and see if it gets populated
[12:06] <mingdao> so how to install it?
[12:06] <mingdao> ok
[12:06] <mingdao> these 2 lines:
[12:06] <mingdao> Installing for x86_64-efi platform.
[12:06] <mingdao> Installation finished. No error reported.
[12:06] <EriC^^> ok try to ls the ubuntu dir again
[12:07] <mingdao> it now has grub.cfg
[12:07] <EriC^^> ok, cool, run "update-grub" then try rebooting
[12:08] <mingdao> http://termbin.com/5hf0
[12:09] <mingdao> if this boots, then I need to pull this SSD out, and put my other SSD and mSATA back into the laptop
[12:09] <mingdao> same install on the mSATA
[12:10] <mingdao> and another Linux disto with all my files for work (start in 1h45m) on it
[12:10] <mingdao> EriC^^: done ... booted in very few secs
[12:11] <mingdao> last time I had to change my resolution from 3200x1800 to 1920x1080 ... it kept that over the reboot
[12:12] <mingdao> now to change hard drives; at least to get work done today
[12:12] <EriC^^> ok cool
[12:12] <mingdao> when I get into it's rescue shell and boot then I need to: apt-get install nvidia-375 nvidia-primus intel-microcode
[12:13] <mingdao> or whatever nvidia works with 4.11
[12:13] <mingdao> would like the wired nic to work, also
[12:13] <mingdao> faster than wifi, even with ubiquiti <15 feet away
[12:14] <mingdao> or, maybe not
[12:14] <mingdao> wifi is ac and switch is 100Mbps
[12:34] <hfp> Hi, when I change nfs-mountd's port via its config file (/etc/default/nfs-kernel-server on ubuntu), is there a way to restart mountd and have it use the new port without restarting the host? I tried to restart the nfs-kernel-server and nfs-mountd services but it doesn't seem to change the port; the only way is a reboot (which is a pain to handle in an ansible playbook)
[12:35] <boxrick> I posted this question earlier on, hopefully someone can help me out? : I have some extremely simple network config that 'service networking restart' seems to have issues with, it all appears fine to me. Anyone see anything obviously wrong? https://gist.github.com/boxrick/52c93d51e13008a0e2ddc90dc3dee95a
[12:41] <mrpanda> tranquillo*
[12:42] <mrpanda> ubuntu still running well
[12:42] <mrpanda> after first install :D
[12:42] <atxbyea> Hmm.. is the mariadb-server-10.1 package in 17.04 broken or is it just me ? I have a fresh install of 17.04, but installing mariadb fails hard
[12:42] <mrpanda> am sticking to 16.04
[12:43] <mrpanda> till next long therm version is there.
[12:43] <mrpanda> ¨lts¨
[12:44] <atxbyea> mrpanda: I could do a reinstall with 16.04, but probably worth checking if I am the only one :-)
[12:44] <mingdao> the 17.04 I installed said "developer's edition"
[12:44] <CHVNX> Describe what you mean by "fails hard".
[12:44] <mingdao> I would think that comes with a caveate emptor
[12:44] <mrpanda> umm
[12:44] <CHVNX> How are you installing the package?
[12:46] <atxbyea> CHVNX: did a clean install of 17.04 on my esxi host, chose lamp during install and after install I did an apt install mariadb-server, this evenually times out
[12:46] <atxbyea> Setting up mariadb-server-10.1 (10.1.25-0ubuntu0.17.04.1) ...
[12:46] <atxbyea> Job for mariadb.service failed because a timeout was exceeded.
[12:46] <Krennic> / b 14
[12:46] <atxbyea> https://pastebin.com/pjtx0u91
[12:47] <atxbyea> it appears to fail because it depends on itself
[12:49] <CHVNX> atxbyea: it times out because of the remote server?
[12:51] <CHVNX> Did you install mysql first?
[12:52] <atxbyea> CHVNX: mysql came with the LAMP, I tried just running the apt install mariadb-server first, but it gave the same result, so I did a apt purge mysql and retried apt install mariadb-server, to no avail
[12:56] <CHVNX> Well, you are *not* the only one to have this problem.
[12:56] <CHVNX> https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2368004
[12:56] <CHVNX> https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2368004
[12:57] <CHVNX> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mariadb-10.1/+bug/1708966
[12:57] <atxbyea> CHVNX: Noticed those just now, but no replies to either..
[12:57] <atxbyea> Suspecting broken package then..
[12:58] <CHVNX> In the pastebin, I see [Note] /usr/sbin/mysqld (mysqld 10.1.25-MariaDB-) starting as process 6421 ...
[12:58] <CHVNX> mysql is running when you try to install maria.
[12:58] <CHVNX> Maybe that is the source of the conflict.
[12:59] <atxbyea> Aye, good catch, I did notice that too, but I thought that was just a background compatability thing for ubuntu
[12:59] <atxbyea> root@zoneminder:/home/eirikz# /usr/sbin/mysqld
[12:59] <atxbyea> 2017-08-08 14:59:27 140122852975168 [Note] /usr/sbin/mysqld (mysqld 10.1.25-MariaDB-) starting as process 6550 ...
[13:00] <atxbyea> manually doing that makes it just as confusing
[13:01] <CHVNX> Wait... is your system trying to start maria as if it were /usr/sbin/mysqld?
[13:01] <atxbyea> Appears so
[13:02] <CHVNX> But you already had mysql before you install maria?
[13:02] <CHVNX> Then you uninstalled mysql? Did you reijnstall maria?
[13:02] <atxbyea> Yes, then I did a apt purge of mysql
[13:02] <atxbyea> yes, tried reinstalling maria
[13:02] <atxbyea> but can try a purge of maria and mysql
[13:02] <atxbyea> then reinstall maria
[13:02] <CHVNX> You tried to reinstall *after* you uninstalled mysql?
[13:02] <CHVNX> How did you do the reinstall? What command?
[13:03] <atxbyea> aye
[13:03] <nemo> CHVNX: WRT /usr/sbin/mysqld  ←  maria usually calls itself that for legacy reasons
[13:03] <atxbyea> just a regular apt-get install mariadb-server
[13:03] <atxbyea> but I will retry a purge of both
[13:03] <CHVNX> sudo apt-get --reinstall mariadb-server
[13:04] <atxbyea> eirikz@zoneminder:~$ sudo apt-get --reinstall mariadb-server
[13:04] <atxbyea> E: Command line option --reinstall is not understood in combination with the other options
[13:05] <CHVNX> sudo apt-get --reinstall install <package>
[13:05] <CHVNX> Forgot an install...
[13:05] <CHVNX> Or throw the --reinstall after the install option
[13:05] <CHVNX> whatever
[13:08] <atxbyea> CHVNX: https://pastebin.com/tCgem8kj
[13:08] <atxbyea> no go :-)
[13:08] <CHVNX> Do you own a shotgun? Have you tried shooting the bastard until it works?
[13:09] <atxbyea> CHVNX: Now you just sound like my Windows co-workers ;-)
[13:09] <CHVNX> File a bug report.
[13:09] <atxbyea> will try my idea of purging first
[13:09] <atxbyea> see what happens
[13:11] <BluesKaj> howdy all
[13:11] <jink> 'sup
[13:12] <atxbyea> CHVNX: seems to be the same shit, getting my shotgun out ;-)
[13:12] <nemo> CHVNX: heh. my windows using coworker was pounding on his enter key just moments ago. so frustrated at an unresponsive OS
[13:14] <atxbyea>  mariadb-server depends on mariadb-server-10.1 (>= 10.1.25-0ubuntu0.17.04.1); however:
[13:14] <atxbyea>   Package mariadb-server-10.1 is not configured yet.
[13:14] <atxbyea> pretty sure this is the issue though
[13:14] <mingdao> how do I determine what is the latest nvidia driver that will work with the 4.10 series kernel in 17.04?
[13:15] <mingdao> apt-get <what>?
[13:22] <mingdao> what is the name of the Chrome web browser to apt-get please?\
[13:22] <mingdao> E: Package 'chromium' has no installation candidate
[13:23] <mingdao> However the following packages replace it:
[13:23] <mingdao>   chromium-bsu:i386 chromium-bsu
[13:23] <mingdao> is that it?
[13:24] <mingdao> oops, no
[13:24] <mingdao> need to uninstall that :D
[13:24] <Pici> !info chromium-browser
[13:24] <mingdao> thanks bud
[13:24] <Pici> np
[13:24] <mingdao> never ran ubuntu before
[13:25] <mingdao> no time left; work in 31m; 20m drive; need to shower
[13:25] <mingdao> thanks Pici ... ttfn
[13:26] <Pici> later
[13:30] <oost> What is the comfort of an Ubuntu LTS-release above a normal release?
[13:31] <brainwash> !lts
[13:31] <brainwash> having long term support is pretty comfortable
[13:33] <Pici> Personally I run LTSes on all the Ubuntu computers/servers that I manage. It sounds fun at first to upgrade things every 6 months, but it gets old fast.
[13:34] <Pici> Unless you *need* bleeding edge stuff, it much easier to just stick with an LTS
[13:36] <oost> tnx.
[13:36] <oost> Pici: No no bleading edge needed, just some web browsing and mailing.
[13:37] <oost> and then the mainstream documents and printing.
[13:38] <Southern_Gentlem> Pici what distro requires you to upgrade every 6 months ?
[13:38] <brainwash> ubuntu non lts
[13:38] <Pici> Southern_Gentlem: non-LTS releases are only supported for 9 months.
[13:38] <Pici> And we come out with a new release every 6 months.
[13:38] <atxbyea> CHVNX: problem does _NOT_ happen if you do not install LAMP :-)
[13:39] <atxbyea> so somehow related to LAMP messing things up
[13:42] <oost> Is the end updates on a LTS automated by a message in apt?
[13:43] <oost> Because i do want to be able to forget about it.
[13:46] <Exterminador> installing Xubuntu in dual boot in a friend machine. when installing, Xubuntu has an option to install along the Windows. someone told me that wouldn't be a good option and that we always need to partition the disk to have better results (that's what I did on my laptop). but why installing along with windows isn't a good option?
[13:50] <SlashLife^work> Morning :)
[13:52] <sary> top of the morning to you SlashLife^work .
[13:52] <SlashLife^work> Every now and then when I lock my screen, for no obvious reason the password field gets filled. Quickly at first, slowly lateron, but it keeps on filling.
[13:53] <SlashLife^work> It seems to react to turning Caps Lock on or off (shows/hides Caps Lock warning), but I can't seem to delete anything or to try that password by pressing Return to get back to an empty prompt.
[13:54] <SlashLife^work> And I don't have any clue what's happening here. Doesn't seem to be an actual keyboard input, as neither disconnecting/reconnecting the keyboard has any effect, nor do these keystrokes appear when I switch to a text console.
[14:07] <murlidhar>  hi all. i tried installing themes in my ubuntu but the list doesn't show in the unity-tweak tool at all
[14:07] <murlidhar> i put the themes in .themes folder
[14:07] <murlidhar> had to create one
[14:08] <murlidhar> but i still don't get to see those themes
[14:08] <jackhum> right now this is like my gparted looks like http://picpaste.com/pics/Selection_001-OJZFLujm.1502201185.png , i want to create one more partition on my HD , can i delete that small fat32 partition without making my computer unbootable? I have ubuntu win10 and kali as triple boot
[14:08] <murlidhar> have unity tweak tool
[14:10] <jackhum> anyone that can help me regarding this partition scenerio pls
[14:10] <jackhum> murlidhar, where are you copying those themes again?
[14:11] <murlidhar> jackhum: .themes folder
[14:11] <jackhum> murlidhar, themes folder where?
[14:11] <murlidhar> jackhum: home folder
[14:11] <jackhum> murlidhar, home/username/.themes?
[14:11] <murlidhar> yes
[14:11] <eduardas_m> hello, am experiencing massive memory leak in hud-service process on Ubuntu 14.04... might that be related to some recent update?
[14:13] <murlidhar> jackhum: i even tried installing by putting the .tar.gz directly  in the folder instead of extracting the files
[14:13] <jackhum> murlidhar, try copying them in /usr/share/themes
[14:14] <murlidhar> hmmm
[14:14] <murlidhar> shall do but didn't want to use the root to do all that stuff
[14:14] <murlidhar> jackhum: err can you help me in telling me the file manager name that we have in ubuntu ?
[14:15] <jackhum> murlidhar, nautilus?
[14:15] <murlidhar> jackhum: ah yes. thanks
[14:15] <jackhum> murlidhar, i install themes via apt-get usually , so mine works automatically
[14:17] <murlidhar> jackhum: well apt-get doesn't have many custom themes like they have in gnome-themes.org
[14:17] <murlidhar> jackhum: i mean gnome-look.org
[14:18] <CHVNX> put your themes in ~/.themes
[14:18] <murlidhar> CHVNX: i tried and failed
[14:18] <jackhum> CHVNX, can you tell me if removing http://picpaste.com/pics/Selection_001-OJZFLujm.1502201185.png , this small fat32 partition will not make my laptop unbootable
[14:19] <CHVNX> structure should be .themes/theme-name/<gtk/metacity/etc>
[14:20] <murlidhar> CHVNX: https://www.gnome-look.org/p/1180089/
[14:20] <murlidhar> CHVNX: can you let me know if it works in ubuntu?
[14:23] <eduardas_m> hello, what is the best way to permanently disable hud-service on stock Ubuntu 14.04 with Unity
[14:24] <boxrick> Where on earth is "bond0" defined, if you have no reference to in the network config it still exists once you enable the bond kernel module.
[14:25] <jackhum> murlidhar, i feel this wont work in ubuntu
[14:25] <murlidhar> jackhum: :)
[14:25] <murlidhar> you sure ?
[14:25] <jackhum> murlidhar, idk , just getting some vibes
[14:26] <murlidhar> hmm
[14:26] <murlidhar> jackhum: try it maybe.
[14:27] <murlidhar> it wasn't working for me
[14:27] <jackhum> murlidhar, try this
[14:27] <jackhum> http://www.noobslab.com/2017/07/mobo-gtk-theme-give-your-desktop.html
[14:28] <murlidhar> jackhum: wow
[14:29] <murlidhar> holy cow! it still doesn't show in the themes list
[14:30] <jackhum> murlidhar, i just tried installing this , and i cant see it in my themes list
[14:30] <murlidhar> jackhum: well i am not the only one then
[14:30] <jackhum> murlidhar, which version of ubuntu are you on?
[14:30] <jackhum> murlidhar, i am on 16.04
[14:31] <jackhum> murlidhar, maybe this will work for above version , specially gtk3
[14:31] <murlidhar> it has gtk2 too
[14:31] <jackhum> It is currently compatible with Gtk 3.20/3.22/3.24
[14:32] <murlidhar> hmm
[14:32] <murlidhar> fish
[14:33] <murlidhar> jackhum: https://www.gnome-look.org/p/1168746/
[14:33] <murlidhar> what about this one ?
[14:34] <CHVNX> What's the problem with the theme?
[14:34] <murlidhar> CHVNX: we don't know
[14:35] <jackhum> murlidhar, still its under gtk3 i guess , so wont work , you can always try , try searching for gtk2 compatible themes
[14:35] <CHVNX> No, I mean to ask what are the symptoms of the problem. What's the complaint?
[14:35] <murlidhar> CHVNX: not able to see it in the list even after installing it/putting it in .themes folder. . both of us . me and jackhum .
[14:35] <CHVNX> Linbk to the theme, please.
[14:36] <jackhum> CHVNX, this theme is not compatible with gtk2 ,
[14:36] <murlidhar> CHVNX: https://www.gnome-look.org/p/1180089/
[14:36] <CHVNX> jackhum: Is that the primary complaint?
[14:36] <murlidhar> jackhum: but it should show in the list even if it not compatible.
[14:37] <CHVNX> It is compatible.
[14:38] <murlidhar> CHVNX: the primary issue is i am not able to use the theme cuz it is not visible in the unity tweak tool
[14:38] <murlidhar> even after installing from the ppa repos
[14:38] <murlidhar> tried direct copy to the /usr/share/themes and also tried installing in .themes folder
[14:39] <murlidhar> none worked
[14:40] <sfdebug> hi, how can i resize a partition from command line?
[14:41] <sfdebug>  i tried: root@Cassandra:/home/leandro# resize2fs /dev/sda5 but it gives an error: resize2fs: Device or resource busy while trying to open /dev/sda5
[14:41] <murlidhar> sfdebug: maybe you have to unmount it first?
[14:41] <murlidhar> ;)
[14:41] <sfdebug> murlidhar, i tried to umount, but it isn't mounted: umount: /dev/sda5: not mounted
[14:42] <CHVNX> That theme works and shows up in the theme listing for xfce4-appearence-settings
[14:42] <murlidhar> CHVNX: :|
[14:42] <CHVNX> http://i.imgur.com/y2J1YFN.png
[14:42] <murlidhar> CHVNX: did you plainly extract the files to .themes folder ?
[14:42] <CHVNX> murlidhar: Yes.
[14:43] <murlidhar> fish me
[14:43] <murlidhar> i can't get it work on mine :|
[14:44] <CHVNX> Don't worry about it, it's an ugly theme anyway.
[14:44] <murlidhar> CHVNX: is any theme-engine necessary ?
[14:44] <murlidhar> CHVNX: can you list me some cool simple looking themes ?
[14:44] <CHVNX> Light or dark?
[14:44] <murlidhar> CHVNX: light
[14:46] <CHVNX> Arc, Breeze, Numix-Holo, VimixLight...
[14:47] <CHVNX> Adapta
[14:47] <murlidhar> okies thanks
[14:47] <murlidhar> noted down them and try each one of them
[14:55] <oost> Is there an easy way to view all specs of a pc where i want to install ubuntu on?
[14:55] <mingdao> dmidecode is pretty good
[14:55] <mingdao> lshw
[14:55] <mingdao> if you boot with some live distro; maybe Ubuntu LiveUSB
[14:55] <mingdao> I just installed Ubuntu for the first time from a LiveUSB
[14:55] <mingdao> you can run it and see how well it works w/out installing
[14:56] <oost> will try that, ty.
[14:56] <mingdao> SystemRescueCd is also a nice tool for that job
[14:56] <pavlos> oost: you can install inxi and run it with various flags
[14:56] <mingdao> both can be written to a flash drive
[14:57] <oost> oh there is inxi too, well i will see what works well for me. thnx.
[14:58] <mingdao> oost: this is the one I used https://ubuntu-mate.org/download/
[14:58] <eater9> I've installed pulseaudio-module-raop and paprefs and now I've lost the ability to control volume and mute with the keyboard keys. Might be a permissions prob?
[14:59] <eater9> When I mute from the pulseaudio control panel, the LED goes on still behind my keyboard Mute key ...
[15:01] <DaVinciIT> hi all. I would like 'join' ubuntu client to an Windows Active Directory . is it possible? I would like use Domain users . is it possible ? (I use Zentyal as Domain Server) thank you.
[15:04] <oost> mingdao: i do not know whether i should install mate DE. It will be for someone totally new to something different to windows. Is mate used a lot?)
[15:04] <oost> (looks well on the screenshots btw))
[15:22] <dckx> Hi. Yesterday, I installed some updates on Ubuntu 16.04.3. When I turned on the computer today, the GUI was not working and instead was redirected to the tty1 login. But then, I got this meeesage NMI watchdog (or something, can't remember) which apparently appears when ubuntu goes on a loop and nothing happens during 22seconds. Anyway, I reboted and went into recovery mode, then continued with ormal boot and got into the GUI login, but after typing my
[15:22] <dckx> password, I can only see the login screen backgroun image and nothing else... In other words, it doesn't load the actual desktop. The mouse still works though. I can't open the terminal or anything. However, on the login screen itself, before inputting the password, I can switch to terminal login, which works. I ran apt update and upgrade which didn't help me.
[15:22] <dckx> any suggestions?
[15:24] <Peyam> Hi, I was looking at my CPUs in Hardinfo program and I see that they got different frequency. Is it normal or are they getting old or has it been like this all the time without me noticing it? http://i.imgur.com/DG0eygM.png
[15:26] <ioria> dckx, have you tried the Guest Account ?
[15:26] <dckx> ioria: yes, same problem than my account
[15:26] <ioria> dckx,  can you paste sudo lshw -c Video
[15:26] <Pici> Peyam: modern processors may run each core at variable speeds
[15:26] <pavlos> Peyam: that's normail, you have 4 cores and each core is governed
[15:27] <Peyam> Pici, pavlos thanks . :)
[15:27] <dckx> I'm on windows now, so I'll have to reboot and see what happens. What was the command for pastebin things from terminal? | pastebinit ?
[15:27] <ioria> dckx,  yes
[15:27] <dckx> ok brb then
[15:41] <DaVinciIT> Hi all, can you suggest me an online guide to build up a linux LAN ? about 50 clients.
[15:41] <dckx> ioria: so the command didn't work at all think. I got a short message that disappeared but it said PCI "sys" and then the NMI watchdog : BUT soft lockup - CPU #4 stuck for 23s [kworker/4:1:70]
[15:42] <dckx> I get the NMI error a lot. The first time it said "gpu.manager" and then it said "xorg.wrap 1594"
[15:42] <ioria> dckx,  oh, so something bigger than video driver, can you run  lspci ?
[15:43] <dckx> sure
[15:43] <PanicAtTheKernel> Ermm, any ideas of why this is happening? php-mcrypt : Depends: php7.0-mcrypt but it is not going to be installed
[15:44] <ioria> dckx,  lspci -k | grep VGA -A 2
[15:44] <nacc> PanicAtTheKernel: ubuntu version and full output please
[15:44] <nacc> PanicAtTheKernel: in a pastebin
[15:44] <nacc> PanicAtTheKernel: possibly also `apt policy php-mcrypt php7.0-mcrypt` too
[15:44] <PanicAtTheKernel> https://pastebin.com/XmxqCgjs
[15:45] <dckx> ok
[15:45] <dckx> brb
[15:45] <nacc> PanicAtTheKernel: ok, the other two outputs as well, please
[15:45] <PanicAtTheKernel> Here's the other https://pastebin.com/RSKQ3MGq
[15:46] <PanicAtTheKernel> nacc: And version is Ubuntu 16.04.3
[15:46] <nacc> PanicAtTheKernel: is there a reason you are using -proposed?
[15:47] <PanicAtTheKernel> nacc, no idea
[15:47] <nacc> PanicAtTheKernel: that doesn't seem like a good answer to something that can easily break your system, but let's gloss it for now
[15:48] <nacc> PanicAtTheKernel: `sudo apt install php-mcrypt php7.0-mcrypt` in a pastebin (basically, we're telling apt how to resolve this by installing php7.0-mcrypt)
[15:48] <PanicAtTheKernel> nacc, it was probably in an answer on stackoverflow when trying to fix something else
[15:48] <PanicAtTheKernel> https://pastebin.com/zjqADiVd
[15:48] <nacc> PanicAtTheKernel: ah ha
[15:48] <nacc> PanicAtTheKernel: you are using ondrej's ppa
[15:49] <PanicAtTheKernel> Maybe o.O
[15:49] <PanicAtTheKernel> Php 7 has been a nightmare for me
[15:49] <PanicAtTheKernel> Lots of stackoverflow
[15:49] <PanicAtTheKernel> :P
[15:49] <nacc> PanicAtTheKernel: dunno, it would be good to know what you are having issues with
[15:49] <nacc> PanicAtTheKernel: and using a PPA means you aren't supported here (but need to ask ondrej for support)
[15:49] <pavlos> DaVinciIT: some reading ... https://serverfault.com/questions/274312/building-a-linux-network-for-our-company-where-do-i-start
[15:50] <PanicAtTheKernel> nacc, how can I just go back to normal version then?
[15:50] <nacc> !ppa-purge | PanicAtTheKernel
[15:50] <nacc> PanicAtTheKernel: that *should* work
[15:51] <PanicAtTheKernel> nacc how do I find the full ppa name?
[15:51] <PanicAtTheKernel> To use for the purge thing
[15:53] <nacc> PanicAtTheKernel: from the ppa's page probably
[15:53] <PanicAtTheKernel> ?
[15:54] <nacc> PanicAtTheKernel: at some point you visited this page and decided it was what you needed: https://launchpad.net/~ondrej/+archive/ubuntu/php/
[15:55] <bipul> Which is the best screen recoder with Audio Input capability. I tried with gtk-recodmydesktop but  voice is not clear in it.
[15:56] <PanicAtTheKernel> Updating packages lists
[15:56] <PanicAtTheKernel> PPA to be removed: ondrej php
[15:56] <PanicAtTheKernel> Warning:  Could not find package list for PPA: ondrej php
[15:56] <PanicAtTheKernel> o.O
[15:56] <nacc> PanicAtTheKernel: `apt policy php7.0-common` in a pastebin
[15:57] <PanicAtTheKernel> nacc, https://pastebin.com/5qiui70s
[15:57] <nacc> PanicAtTheKernel: sigh, so you added ondrej's ppa at some point, then deleted it and didn't purge it, and now your system doesn't know where your packages came from
[15:58] <PanicAtTheKernel> Oh fun
[15:58] <PanicAtTheKernel> So it's broked for good?
[15:58] <nacc> PanicAtTheKernel: you can try and fix it by something like `sudo apt install php7.0-common=7.0.18-0ubunut0.16.04.1`, but that will probalby say it can't without other packages also being dropped to that version
[15:58] <nacc> there are otherw ays to reset the packages to the state from the archive, but I dno't have them handy
[15:59] <PanicAtTheKernel> E: Version '7.0.18-0ubunut0.16.04.1' for 'php7.0-common' was not found
[15:59] <nacc> PanicAtTheKernel: err, ubuntu not ubunut, sorry
[15:59] <PanicAtTheKernel> Oh didn't see the typo :P:
[16:00] <nacc> PanicAtTheKernel: i'm taking the output from your last paste and just grabbing the version from the -updates pocket
[16:00] <madLyfe> how do i find out if im on Linux 4.10 kernel and the Mesa 17.0 graphics stack on server?
[16:00] <PanicAtTheKernel> Hrmmm
[16:00] <PanicAtTheKernel> No errors nacc
[16:01] <PanicAtTheKernel> And now mcrypt installed
[16:01] <PanicAtTheKernel> Woot
[16:01] <PanicAtTheKernel> That seemed way too easy, somethings gotta be wrong :P
[16:03] <nicomachus> madLyfe: uname -r will show current kernel
[16:03] <dckx> ioria: so, when I ran that command, nothing happens and after a while I get the message NMI watchdog: BUG etc etc, and at the end, the message lspci:v1595
[16:03] <nicomachus> madLyfe: `sudo lshw -C video` should show some graphics properties. Not sure if the mesa info will be there.
[16:04] <ioria> dckx,  ok, maybe a bug, ... are you going back and forth from windows ?
[16:04] <dckx> ioria: by the way, sometimes ubuntu freezes at the login screen. Other times I can switch to tty1 in the login screen, but it I try to go back to GUI using ctrl+alt+F7 it freezes
[16:04] <dckx> ioria: yes I am
[16:04] <madLyfe> just wondering if i got those things. if i have the 4.10 kernel im guessing i have the mesa 17.0 stack
[16:04] <ioria> dckx, what's your video card ?
[16:05] <dckx> ioria: nvidia gtx1060
[16:05] <dckx> laptop
[16:05] <madLyfe> nicomachus: guess i dont have 4.10 kernel
[16:05] <ioria> dckx, driver ? nvidia proprietary or nouveau ?
[16:05] <madLyfe> im on 16.04.3 though.
[16:06] <dckx> not sure, I haven't done anything regarding drivers so I would assume whatever comes by default. I think I can read "noveau" somewhere during boot
[16:06] <nicomachus> madLyfe: what kernel do you have?
[16:06] <nicomachus> madLyfe: and please verify release with `lsb_release -a`
[16:06] <ioria> dckx, i'd try first nomodeset then  nouveau.modeset=0 ...
[16:06] <madLyfe> 4.4.0-89-generic
[16:07] <FunnyLookinHat> Anyone here have any experience with getting docker-compose volumes to work well with Ubuntu?  I'm running docker-compose as a normal user (not root) but the created volumes are still owned by root:root - which then prevents the containers from being able to actually write them.
[16:07] <ioria> dckx,  you set it in the Grub screen
[16:07] <dckx> ioria: ok, I saw some people suggesting that on stackoverflow
[16:07] <nicomachus> madLyfe: that is the same I'm on with 16.04.3 here. If you aren't on the HWE stack then that is the correct version.
[16:08] <nacc> PanicAtTheKernel: it's possible that was the only package you had left from ondrej's ppa
[16:08] <dckx> if that works I'll connect next time from ubuntu :D
[16:08] <dckx> ybrb
[16:08] <madLyfe> ya i guess im not, though im pretty sure i install 16.04.2 or whatever was before 16.04.3
[16:09] <PanicAtTheKernel> nacc, well whatever the case, you solved my problem, so thank you :)
[16:09] <nacc> PanicAtTheKernel: yw
[16:10] <madLyfe> possible to get my servers to most up2date everything, nicomachus?
[16:10] <madLyfe> im pretty new to nix, let alone command line nix.
[16:10] <madLyfe> command line only*
[16:11] <nicomachus> madLyfe: you'd have to switch to the HWE stack but that's pointless unless you're worried about being bleeding-edge or keeping up with newer hardware (amdgpu drivers come to mind), but server isn't my area of expertise.
[16:11] <nicomachus> nacc: does server even bother with HWE?
[16:11] <nacc> nicomachus: sure, for the kernel
[16:12] <nacc> nicomachus: but i would say in the general case, it's not usually needed
[16:13] <nicomachus> and switching to the HWE stack is as simple as installing linux-generic-hwe-16.04 isn't it?
[16:13] <madLyfe> but to use the new kernel you need HWE stack?
[16:14] <madLyfe> "If you fall into the latter category but want the new HWE stack, then you can install it with a single command (server users should omit the xorg package): sudo apt install –install-recommends linux-generic-hwe-16.04 xserver-xorg-hwe-16.04"
[16:14] <madLyfe> is that accurate?
[16:14] <nacc> nicomachus: yeah
[16:14] <nacc> as documented here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/LTSEnablementStack
[16:14] <nicomachus> madLyfe: right. but keep in mind, that a newer kernel means you may see some additional bugs (with drivers, etc) that you aren't getting on the 4.4 kernel (which is tried and tested at this point)
[16:15] <nacc> also, servers typically care about stability
[16:15] <nacc> not about the latest and greatest hardware support
[16:15] <dckx> ioria: so where am I supposed to add "nomodeset" in GRUB? I searched online and people said that right before "quiet splash" but I don't have that line in GRUB. By the way, I am on ubuntu, but because I logged in failsafe graphical mode (or something along those lines)
[16:15] <nacc> it's unlikely your hardware is changing on your server :)
[16:15] <nicomachus> which is why I'm a little surprised server even offers HWE, nacc.
[16:15] <nicomachus> but I guess there's no reason not to.
[16:15] <dckx> ioria: additionally, should I run some of the commands you told me before?
[16:15] <ioria> dckx, yes, lspci -k | grep -EA2 'VGA|3D'
[16:15] <nacc> nicomachus: right, server is nothing more than a different default install
[16:15] <nacc> nicomachus: so it's not about server offering hwe, but ubuntu offering it
[16:16] <madLyfe> but newer also has security fixes?
[16:16] <nicomachus> madLyfe: they will all have security fixes.
[16:16] <nacc> madLyfe: security is unrelated to hwe
[16:16] <nicomachus> 4.4 is still being updated with security fixes. -89 was released yesterday IIRC
[16:16] <ioria> dckx, and btw, you should have that line
[16:17] <dckx> ioria: http://paste.ubuntu.com/25270796/
[16:17] <nicomachus> madLyfe: even the old 3.13 kernel from 14.04 is still being updated. It's well past -100 by now.
[16:17] <dckx> ioria: Yes, I deleted that line long ago and added something else following a recommendation on stackoverflow regarding my touchpad, which apparently won't work otherwise on ubuntu
[16:17] <ioria> dckx, dmesg | grep Kernel
[16:18] <madLyfe> but if i was to download the 16.04.3 iso from the site, it would be the new kernel/HWE stack?
[16:18] <dckx> ioria: http://paste.ubuntu.com/25270807/
[16:19] <ioria> dckx, cat /etc/default/grub
[16:20] <dckx> ioria: is that a command or a file I should open with gedit or something>
[16:21] <ioria> dckx,  you should paste it
[16:21] <nacc> madLyfe: yes
[16:21] <dckx> ioria: it says "you are trying to send an empty document, exiting"
[16:21] <ioria> dckx,    ls  /etc/default/grub
[16:22] <dckx> ioria: http://paste.ubuntu.com/25270832/
[16:22] <nicomachus> madLyfe: no, I don't think it would. You would still ahve to install the linux-generic-hwe-16.04 package.
[16:22] <nicomachus> I may be wrong, but I don't think so
[16:22] <ioria> dckx, cat /etc/default/grub | pastebinit
[16:23] <nacc> nicomachus: all fresh installs of 16.04 (using the .X ISO) will have HWe on by default
[16:23] <nacc> nicomachus: that's my understanding, at least
[16:23] <nacc> nicomachus: the apt method is only needed for 16.04.0 installers to opt-in to hwe
[16:23] <dckx> ioria: my bad, with this resolution didn't see the space between cat and /etc
[16:23] <dckx> ioria: http://paste.ubuntu.com/25270837/
[16:24] <nicomachus> nacc: ah, ok.
[16:24] <ioria> dckx, you see quiet splash"
[16:24] <madLyfe> actually, this was the iso i installed: ubuntu-16.04.2-server-amd64
[16:24] <madLyfe> why wouldnt that have the new kernel or HWE then?
[16:24] <ioria> dckx,  but this line should not be there GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="i8042.kbdreset=1"
[16:25] <dckx> ioria: I do. It is strange, I didn't see that in GRUB (what I did was I pressed "e" in the menu to select what OS to boot)
[16:25] <ioria> dckx,  it's a duplicate  , change that parameter in the line above
[16:25] <nacc> madLyfe: iirc, 16.04.2 should also have the hwe kernel by default, but i'm not sure. Perhaps the server installer makes a different default choice
[16:26] <ioria> dckx,   you got two 'GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT'
[16:27] <nicomachus> nacc: would installing linux-image-generic manually at any point revert HWE?
[16:27] <dckx> ioria: I see. So what should I do? The kbdreset I found on stackoverflow to make my touchpad work (elantch on a gigabyte aero7 laptop)
[16:27] <ioria> dckx, put that parameter in the line above
[16:27] <madLyfe> is there a server chat or a place where ppl are more familiar with it?
[16:27] <nicomachus> madLyfe: #ubuntu-server
[16:27] <dckx> ioria: https://askubuntu.com/questions/763584/elantech-touchpad-not-working-on-ubuntu-16-04-and-arch-linux
[16:28] <nacc> nicomachus: yeah, well not revert
[16:28] <dckx> ioria: although it seems they do it in the same line, and not in a new line like I did
[16:28] <nacc> nicomachus: but as well as
[16:28] <ioria> dckx, yes  " quiet splash i8042.kbdreset=1" all in one line
[16:28] <dckx> ioria: ok, should I change that and then reboot?
[16:29] <ioria> dckx, yes  but add also nouveau.modeset=0  run sudo update-grub and reboot
[16:30] <dckx> ioria: the noveai.modeset=0 in the same line as well? Does the order matter?
[16:31] <ioria> dckx,  not really afaik
[16:32] <dckx> ioria: GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="nouveau.modeset=0 i8042.kbdreset=1 quiet splash"
[16:32] <dckx> ioria: does that look good?
[16:32] <ioria> dckx,  think so
[16:32] <ioria> dckx,  sudo update-grub
[16:32] <dckx> yes, rebooting now
[16:34] <dckx> ioria: it worked.
[16:35] <ioria> dckx,  can you paste again  dmesg | grep Kernel
[16:35] <dckx> ioria: the login process after I enter my user password is a little different than before. The mouse flickers and disappears, and then changes size (like the resolution is changing in the background) and then the desktop loads
[16:36] <dckx> ioria: http://paste.ubuntu.com/25270903/
[16:37] <ioria> dckx,  can you paste  sudo lshw -c Video
[16:37] <dckx> ioria: http://paste.ubuntu.com/25270912/
[16:38] <ioria> dckx,  have you never  tried to install nvidia driver with that card ?
[16:39] <dckx> ioria: not since I reinstalled ubuntu
[16:40] <ioria> dckx,  ok,  forts sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade
[16:40] <ioria> *first
[16:40] <dckx> ioria: I tried before following some online instructions to get both gpus to work and extend battery life, and everything stopped working. Then, I had to reinstall for other reasons, but decided not to do anything
[16:40] <dckx> ioria: ok
[16:40] <ioria> dckx,  and check for any error
[16:41] <dckx> ioria: http://paste.ubuntu.com/25270936/
[16:41] <dckx> ioria: this is what I get
[16:41] <mekhami> i have a postgres process that automatically starts up and i have to stop it every time i start my desktop with `sudo service postgresql stop` how can i make this not start up on boot every time?
[16:42] <nacc> mekhami: why do you have postgres on a desktop? do you not want postgres at all?
[16:42] <nacc> mekhami: or do you want to start it at some point after boot?
[16:42] <mekhami> nacc ▸ i don't need it, i run it in docker when i need itnow
[16:42] <nacc> mekhami: so uninstall it?
[16:42] <ioria> dckx,  i'd remove those kernels
[16:42] <mekhami> nacc ▸ i always get nervous i'm goinna break something when i apt uninstall anything -.-
[16:43] <dckx> ioria: I'm on it
[16:43] <nacc> mekhami: that seems a bit silly, but you can also do `sudo systemctl disable postgresql-server` (iirc)
[16:43] <ioria> dckx,  ok, then you can try to install nvidia , if you want
[16:44] <dckx> ioria: sure. Can you recommend a guide I can follow? Or you will guide me?
[16:44] <mekhami> nacc ▸ if i were more experienced, i'd probably not have those silly preconceptions
[16:44] <mekhami> but i'm gonna uninstall it, what's the worst that could happen
[16:44] <ioria> dckx,  so sudo apt update  tells all packages updated ?
[16:45] <dckx> ioria: yes
[16:45] <ioria> dckx,  ok,  paste ubuntu-drivers list
[16:46] <dckx> ioria: http://paste.ubuntu.com/25270954/
[16:46] <ioria> dckx,  so you still don't know if nvidia-375 works ?
[16:47] <dckx> ioria: what do you mean?
[16:47] <ioria> dckx,  you never tried to install  nvidia-375 ...
[16:48] <dckx> ioria: I don't know. I don't remember what version I did install back then when I followed that online tutorial. I only know I messed something up
[16:48] <ioria> dckx,  if you need to install proprietary drivers , you go in Additional Drivers and select it
[16:49] <ioria> dckx,  using Unity ?
[16:49] <dckx> ioria: I don't know what unity is. I understand that's some sort of GUI? I have whatever it is that comes with the default ubuntu installation
[16:50] <ioria> dckx,  press the 'Win' key and type Additional driver
[16:51] <ioria> dckx,  or click on the ubuntu logo on top of the launcher
[16:51] <dckx> ioria: I'm there. I saw where to select between nouveau and Nvidia drivers. I think I will wait though because I need to read some stuff now and if anything goes wrong it will delay me
[16:52] <ioria> dckx,  ok
[16:52] <dckx> ioria: thanks for your help
[16:53] <ioria> dckx,  no problem,  once installed you need to remove nomodeset from grub
[16:53] <dckx> ioria: got it. Thanks
[16:53] <ioria> dckx,  and if 375 does not work you might need https://launchpad.net/~graphics-drivers/+archive/ubuntu/ppa
[16:54] <dckx> ioria: ok. I'll do some research to see what drivers works best wih my GPU and my laptop
[16:54] <ioria> dckx,  oky
[16:59] <CrtxReavr> Has Ubuntu dropped their "three-guys-with arms outstretched in a circle" logo?
[16:59] <CrtxReavr> 'Cause I don't see it on their website, but I saw it on another, un-related business' website.
[17:03] <oerheks> CrtxReavr, that would be an old ubuntu advertisement, or front of ubuntu 5.10
[17:03] <CrtxReavr> Actually, digging a little deeper, edubuntu.org is still using it.
[17:04] <TBotNik> All: Have 2 issues I'm working on. 1st is easy, 2nd is hard. Wrote them up at:\n 1.) grep filtering at:    www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?p=5746063#post5746063\n 2.) false apt errors at:  www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?p=5744591#post5744591\nAll help appreciated!\n\n
[17:04] <TBotNik> Thnx!\n\nTBNK
[17:04] <CrtxReavr> And Ubuntu Kylin is. . . sorta.
[17:04] <CrtxReavr> But look at https://ahsa.com/
[17:05] <sfdebug> hi... i resized a linux partition on gparted livecd, but when i go to the system, with du -h, shows the old size... but when i boot with gparted, it is resized... any idea why?
[17:06] <oerheks> TBotNik, what ubuntu version?
[17:06] <CrtxReavr> Maybe the partition you resized was a primary partition that cointains one (or more) secondary partitions that are still the same size?
[17:07] <CrtxReavr> Is lvm in play?
[17:07] <TBotNik> oerheks: 14.04 LTS
[17:07] <sfdebug> CrtxReavr, i resized the primary partition and the partition was inside that... that's a LVM partition...
[17:08] <TBotNik> oerheks: Actually Kubuntu 14.04 LTS
[17:08] <oerheks> TBotNik, installing ' wine1.6 winetricks 'should work
[17:08] <oerheks> !info wine xenial
[17:10] <TBotNik> oerheks: Nope always get the "held files" error, but as you see when I run the command for held files there are none, so have nothing to clear, yet still always hung up!
[17:10] <CrtxReavr> sfdebug, that sounds. . . .horrifying.
[17:10]  * CrtxReavr shrugs.
[17:10] <oerheks> TBotNik, so heldback packages, run sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install full-upgrade
[17:10] <oerheks> that would fix those
[17:11] <oerheks> really, you should have mentioned that in your post, waste of time
[17:11] <oost> Does anyone knows whether system76 will update their cpu's in the near future now with the new amd and intel cpu's?
[17:12] <oerheks> oost, not an ubuntu support issue, ask them?
[17:12] <oost> True.
[17:12] <TBotNik> oerheks: I'd run that but not with the "full-upgrade" only "upgrade", we'll see what happens.
[17:13] <nicomachus> oerheks: apt-get install full-upgrade?
[17:13] <oerheks> -install , good reading nicomachus
[17:14] <nicomachus> oerheks: also apt-get with full-upgrade though
[17:14] <nicomachus> TBotNik: `sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade`
[17:14]  * oerheks disables autotype
[17:14] <TBotNik> oerheks: Some of the issues started when I upgraded mysql, I think 7.0, which is available for 14.04, but not yet supported.  Not sure why
[17:15] <ioria> TBotNik, 7 available for trusty ?
[17:15] <oerheks> not sure why you don't want to run 16.04, i am not even going to look into this..
[17:15] <oerheks> ioria, worse, 14.04
[17:16] <ioria> !info mysql-server trusty
[17:16] <TBotNik> oerheks: Mgmt, will only allow LTS versions, and must be 18 months old, so can not go to 16.04 LTS until Oct 15 this year.  One app using Magento, had to have the latest MySQL, Couldn't find a down version of the app running older mysql.
[17:18] <sfdebug> CrazyEddy, i got it...
[17:18] <TBotNik> oerheks: Now have to have WINE to support a WIN based ingress/egress software we have, and installs not running!
[17:19] <sfdebug> CrazyEddy, after resize the LVM partition on gparted, i had to execute: lvextend –l +100%FREE [MOUNTPOINT] and resize2fs [MOUNTPOINT], as listed here: https://superuser.com/questions/917988/gparted-cannot-resize-extended-or-lvm-partition
[17:20] <TBotNik> oerheks: That Mgmt decision due to instabilities causing staff overwork, in LTS versions with less than 18 months of service.
[17:22] <oerheks> TBotNik, sad to hear, still does not give support.
[17:23] <MarkProffitt> How can I play a video to a fake webcam? I've tried loopback& ffmpeg and several other ways but can't get it to work. Does someone know how to do it?
[17:23] <TBotNik> oerheks: I find nothing in my /etc/apt/sources.list that says its pointing to anything but fully supported 14.04 LTS versions, except for some 3rd party S/W I run, but those have been there in sources.list for over 10 years.  Sould I pastebin the sources.list file?
[17:25] <oerheks> TBotNik, what is the output of your update && full-upgrade command?
[17:25] <oerheks> to see why it did not update heldback packages
[17:27] <TBotNik> oerheks: The "full-upgrade" errored with this msg: "E: Unable to locate package full-upgrade"
[17:27] <nicomachus> TBotNik: because apt-get doesn't use full-upgrade
[17:27] <nicomachus> it uses upgrade or dist-upgrade
[17:27] <nicomachus> you have to use just `apt` to use full-upgrade
[17:27] <nicomachus> so, pick one. oerheks combined the two above.
[17:28] <TBotNik> nicomachus: full cmd please!
[17:28] <nicomachus> with 14.04, use apt-get. `sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade`
[17:28] <oerheks> oops, full came with 16.04 ..
[17:29] <nicomachus> TBotNik: go ahead and paste the full output of those commands.
[17:29] <oerheks> so maybe the command fixes things, lets see
[17:29] <nicomachus> (to a pastebin... please)
[17:29] <oerheks> heldback kernel and such
[17:30] <nicomachus> well those commands I sent aren't going to upgrade kernel. need dist-upgrade for that. but we'll get there after update & upgrade have run successfully.
[17:30] <B14CK-SPID3R> hi everybody, i bought a new laptop (Assus N552vw - 8 gig - 256 ssd - nvidia 960m) and decided to install ubuntu (17.04). but when i'm beginning to install it, it hanged on purple page that shows ubuntu logo. i check background of this process and saw these error messages : " http://s8.picofile.com/file/8302963018/2017_08_04_23_53_01_294.jpg ". when installer crashes nothing works. (i.e: ctrl + alt + f1-f2-..) who knows what's the cause of this
[17:30] <B14CK-SPID3R> problem?
[17:31] <nicomachus> !nomodeset | B14CK-SPID3R
[17:31] <sary> B14CK-SPID3R: I would report this to #ubuntu-devel
[17:31] <TBotNik> nicomachus: Oh without the  'install' just: "apt-get update && apt-get full-upgrade"? Ok running again
[17:31] <nicomachus> B14CK-SPID3R: also, would recommend 16.04.3 with the HWE stack for that, not 17.04. Up to you though
[17:31] <nicomachus> TBotNik: no.
[17:31] <nemo> B14CK-SPID3R: looks like nouveau is erroring so nicomachus' link is appropriate
[17:31] <oerheks> troll ..
[17:32] <nicomachus> TBotNik: `sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade`
[17:32] <TBotNik> nicomachus: Now error: E: Invalid operation full-upgrade
[17:32] <nicomachus> NOT full-upgrade, that doesn't work on 14.04.
[17:32] <nicomachus> TBotNik: obviously. as I've said several times now.
[17:33] <nemo> nicomachus: my coworker's problems were solved by going to 14.04 as I'd recommended to him several times prior - he'd had ubuntu lock up and corrupt his HD about 20 times on 16.04 and 17.04 before he finally tried it ☺
[17:33] <Jordan_U> sary: B14CK-SPID3R: #ubuntu-devel is not a place to file bug reports. Please use launchpad / "ubuntu-bug packagename" for that.
[17:33] <nemo> nicomachus: everything works flawlessly now
[17:33] <TBotNik> nicomachus: Oh that! ran that 20 timems already and absolutely no change!
[17:33] <nicomachus> nemo: sorry, I'm not sure what you're talking about
[17:33] <nicomachus> TBotNik: ok, then `sudo apt-get dist-upgrade`
[17:33] <nemo> nicomachus: oh. was just agreeing overall that sometimes going further back can help a lot
[17:34] <nemo> nicomachus: and that even 16.04 might not be far enough back
[17:34] <TBotNik> nicomachus: See why I'm frustrated. All the stuff that normally works does not.
[17:34] <nicomachus> nemo: 17.04 v. 16.04 is much different than 16.04 v. 14.04
[17:34] <de-facto> is there a setting in GTK3 to *force* killing (maybe even -9) programs that wont terminate on clicking the (x) ?
[17:34] <nemo> nicomachus: oh, sure.  that's one of the reasons 14.04 prob worked ☺
[17:34] <nicomachus> TBotNik: unless you paste the output of `sudo apt-get dist-upgrade`, I can't tell what's not working
[17:35] <TBotNik> nicomachus: Which vesion will that take me to?  I'm not allowed to run anything newer that 14.04 LTS right now!
[17:35] <B14CK-SPID3R> ubottu: thank you sir, i check it. also thanks for those who helped.
[17:35] <B14CK-SPID3R> :D
[17:35] <nicomachus> TBotNik: nowhere. It just upgrades the kernel, not the release.
[17:36] <TBotNik> nicomachus: Thnx! running it now!
[17:37] <alexac> have an issue - installation hangs if intalled from software center, it is just continius 'please wait' looking for a ways to debug an issue, ubuntu 16.04 LTS. previously it hangs a lot so I restarted it through hard booth several times, logs didn't show anything important, apparently.
[17:37] <nicomachus> alexac: install whatever package it is from terminal with `sudo apt install <package>` and see what errors (if any) are thrown
[17:38] <alexac> it works, but i need to know why it is so with graphic interface, something is wrong apparently
[17:38] <alexac> nicomachus: answer is for you.
[17:38] <nicomachus> alexac: I've never installed from software center, sorry.
[17:38] <alexac> nicomachus: should i mention it was worked before?
[17:39] <oerheks> alexac, did the password dialog box showed up?
[17:39] <alexac> oerheks: nope
[17:39] <oerheks> maybe it is hidden under the softwarecenter windows..
[17:39] <alexac> oerheks: nope can't see it
[17:39] <oerheks> that is why i like synaptic, it starts with password
[17:39] <nicomachus> or another workspace even
[17:40] <nicomachus> alexac: start Software Center with root privileges from terminal. I don't remember if gksu or gksudo is the rec'd way now...
[17:40] <TBotNik> nicomachus: So which log do I dump to PB, once this is done, so you can look?
[17:40] <nicomachus> TBotNik: the output from the terminal
[17:40] <alexac> nicomachus: so if i have a .deb package to install and am in terminal what command should i execute in order for that to be installed? just sudo apt install TAB - didn not show that up
[17:40] <alexac> nicomachus: if you don't remember i don't know how to do it, sory.
[17:41] <nicomachus> alexac: no problem: sudo dkpg -i <package.deb>
[17:41] <oerheks> sudo dpkg -i /path/to/<package>.deb
[17:41] <TBotNik> nicomachus: Crap did not pipe it to a file!
[17:41] <nicomachus> TBotNik: copy and paste.
[17:41] <alexac> nicomachus: sudo: dkpg: command not found
[17:41] <alexac> nicomachus: ah see it
[17:42] <alexac> nicomachus: ok it works, still I want to know what happen with the system
[17:42] <TBotNik> How do I get all of it. Currently not able to see or scroll to all of it.
[17:42] <nicomachus> alexac: software center may long in the apt logs, I'm not sure
[17:42] <nicomachus> s/long/log
[17:42] <Jordan_U> alexac: If the .deb file you're installing is missing dependancies you may need to run "sudo apt -f install" after "sudo dpkg -i /path/to/file.deb". That said, it's generally best to stick to repositories rather than installing .deb files manually.
[17:42] <alexac> nicomachus: thanks for you support, solution worked so far
[17:42] <alexac> Jordan_U: it is not so it is ok. thanks for answering my q.
[17:47] <alexac> Aug  8 20:19:25 kernel: [  174.290264] Valid eCryptfs headers not found in file header region or xattr region, inode 1312185
[17:47] <alexac> Apparently the last message before system hangs.
[17:47] <nicomachus> oh
[17:47] <alexac> Can it be solved?
[17:47] <alexac> If so how?
[17:48] <nicomachus> maybe it's not what I'm thinking, but the last time I had bad headers on an eCryptfs partition I had to do a reinstall and lost everything.
[17:48] <nicomachus> if that superblock on an encrypted portion of the disk gets corrupted, it can be a migraine
[17:48] <nicomachus> !pm | B14CK-SPID3R
[17:48] <alexac> nicomachus: i have been using version 17 of Ubuntu before but it was the same issue, so I installed 16 - someone suggested it might help, still the same stuff happens.
[17:49] <alexac> nicomachus: do you think that my ssd drive can be a problem?
[17:49] <alexac> (source) of a problem?
[17:49] <nicomachus> is it encrypted?
[17:49] <alexac> it is
[17:51] <alexac> am now thinking of reinstalling the system without any encryption on a disk, will report back
[17:51] <nicomachus> oh boy
[17:51] <B14CK-SPID3R> does my problem solve if i download ubuntu 16.04 LTS? (my problem was about nomodeset kernel option)
[17:51] <nicomachus> B14CK-SPID3R: probably not. best to just set nomodeset, it's super simple.
[17:52] <alexac> brb
[17:54] <psychoticwarrior> whats up ppl
[17:54] <compdoc> you can never tell
[17:54] <B14CK-SPID3R> nicomachus: I want to install Linux as a dual boot alongside Windows 10. That's why I'm afraid of changing grub and kernel.
[17:54] <nicomachus> B14CK-SPID3R: it won't affect the dual boot. Just set nomodeset in grub like it said in that link I sent you when you first came in. You could have this problem solved by now.
[17:56] <B14CK-SPID3R> nicomachus: does setting this option affect on hardware performance?
[17:56] <nicomachus> no.
[17:56] <B14CK-SPID3R> Ok. Thank you very much. :x
[17:59] <Dbugger> Hello everyone
[17:59] <Dbugger> I just installed a fresh ubuntu 17.04 but I get a problem on boot up. I get a "Failed to activate swap /swapfile"
[17:59] <Dbugger> Could someone give me a hand? I have no idea why this could be happening...
[18:00] <nemo> Dbugger: presumably you didn't install a swap partition?
[18:00] <nemo> or format it
[18:00] <nemo> Dbugger: it's not the end of the world, until you run low on memory.
[18:00] <nemo> Dbugger: just make a swap file or swap partition now.
[18:00] <Dbugger> nemo, I thought that 17.04 did use a Swap file nd not a partition
[18:00] <ioria> Dbugger, 17.04 comes by default with a /swapfile set , using automatic partitioning
[18:00] <Dbugger> nemo, can you walk me though it? I have no idea how to make one...
[18:01] <ioria> Dbugger, unless you used something else
[18:01] <nemo> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SwapFaq#How_do_I_add_a_swap_file.3F
[18:01] <Dbugger> Ok, lets se...
[18:01] <Dbugger> 1GB is good?
[18:01] <nemo> Dbugger: depends on what you need it for ☺
[18:02] <nemo> Dbugger: if you actually still use hibernate, you should have a larger one.  or if you dump a lot of stuff into tmpfs
[18:02] <Dbugger> nemo, well, run of the mill. Nothing spectacular.
[18:02] <nemo> or if you are just short on memory in general
[18:02] <Dbugger> I should not be short in memory really.
[18:02] <nemo> Dbugger: a gig is prob fine then
[18:02] <oerheks> swapon --show # this would show the swapfile
[18:02] <Dbugger> Ok, then
[18:02] <oerheks> or free -h
[18:03] <Dbugger> ok, I have created the file, enabled it, and enabled it as bootup
[18:03] <Dbugger> I should now have anymore the problems I got on boot, right?
[18:04] <ioria> Dbugger, i 'd investigate why the previous didn't work
[18:04] <TBotNik> nicomachus: dist-upgrade still running!
[18:04] <Dbugger> well, I did a systemctl status" and I got this
[18:04] <nicomachus> TBotNik: what
[18:04] <psychoticwarrior> TBotNIk what are you updating
[18:04] <nicomachus> still?
[18:04] <Dbugger> nemo, https://www.hastebin.com/rifevufiva.swift
[18:04] <Dbugger> I dont really understand anything of it...
[18:05] <nicomachus> Dbugger: did you try what it suggests?
[18:06] <Jordan_U> Dbugger: Please pastebin your /etc/fstab and the output of "file /swapfile".
[18:06] <Dbugger> this is my fstab: https://hastebin.com/wivitarequ.m
[18:06] <TBotNik> psychoticwarrior, nicomachus: Running apt=get update && apt-get dist-upgrade that nicomachus recommended to try clearing install errors from apt-get install
[18:07] <Dbugger> "file /swapfile" gives me simply a "/swapfile: regular file, no read permission"
[18:07] <ioria> Dbugger, using luks ?
[18:07] <Dbugger> ioria, no idea what that is...
[18:07] <nicomachus> TBotNik: it's been running for 20+ minutes?
[18:07] <ioria> Dbugger, encryption
[18:07] <TBotNik> nicomachus: Yup still.  This machine is PDC and Dev server, so lots of stuff on it.
[18:08] <Dbugger> ioria, on the partition? I guess I do, since I was trying to to read my "home" from another Ubuntu in another HDD and I could not
[18:08] <Jordan_U> Dbugger: Why do you have three different swap entries in your /etc/fstab?
[18:08] <Dbugger> I dont know...
[18:08] <Dbugger> I dont really know myself with this stuff... :/
[18:08] <Dbugger> Im not very Linux-savvy
[18:08] <ioria> Dbugger, paste also /etc/crypttab
[18:09] <Dbugger> Sure
[18:09] <Dbugger> crypttab gives me this: "cryptswap1 UUID=15abe4ad-042d-4938-98f8-591c47748d6d /dev/urandom swap,offset=1024,cipher=aes-xts-plain64"
[18:09] <Jordan_U> Dbugger: OK, one good thing to do is to make backups of any files you change and take notes about what changes you make just as a general practice no matter what you're changing.
[18:10] <Dbugger> Jordan_U, I have nothing sensitive in the partition. It is a brand new partition
[18:10] <Jordan_U> Dbugger: sudo file /swapfile
[18:10] <nicomachus> TBotNik: whoa whoa whoa
[18:10] <Dbugger> "/swapfile: data"
[18:10] <nicomachus> TBotNik: you are working on a PRODUCTION/DEV server right now???
[18:10] <Dbugger> that is what I got
[18:11] <ioria> Dbugger,  i'am not sure you're using encryption , just the swap volume is
[18:11] <Jordan_U> Dbugger: Then that is not a valid swap file. How did you create it?
[18:11] <Dbugger> Jordan_U, I dunno...
[18:11] <Dbugger> :/
[18:12] <Dbugger> I just followed the ubuntu installation, as forward as I could
[18:12] <Dbugger> (which as never really been a problem... this is a first)
[18:12] <Dbugger> But again, this is the first time I install it without swap partition, so maybe that is the reason I went wrong on something :/
[18:13] <Jordan_U> Dbugger: So you never manually edited /etc/fstab? Did you use automatic partitioning or the "Something else" option?
[18:13] <psychoticwarrior> I dont have a swap partition on kali or ubuntu
[18:13] <Dbugger> Jordan_U, noooo, never
[18:13] <ioria> Dbugger,  do you insert a passphrase  at boot ?
[18:13] <Dbugger> i would not dare into those worlds
[18:13] <Dbugger> mmmm... possible
[18:13] <Dbugger> cant recall now, DId it about a week ago
[18:14] <TBotNik> nicomachus: This machine always takes about 4 hours on a complete upgrade.
[18:14] <ioria> Dbugger,  just reboot and see if it asks for a passphrase ...
[18:14] <Dbugger> ioria, oh you mean when I start up the system?
[18:14] <Dbugger> No, it doesnt
[18:14] <ioria> yep
[18:14] <Dbugger> besides for the user account password, of course
[18:15] <ioria> Dbugger,  so why do you have an ecrypted swap ?
[18:15] <Dbugger> ioria, I dunno..
[18:15] <Dbugger> I really dunno about it
[18:15] <ioria> Dbugger,  sounds weird
[18:15] <TBotNik> michael_mbp: PDC: Primary Domain Controller and Dev Server, with all dev packages, including 20 PHP Frameworks, Like CakePHP, CodeIgnitor, Drupal, DooPHP, ... Zend, Yii etc.
[18:15] <Dbugger> ioria, dont tell me that... sounds like I have to reformat the system :/
[18:15] <psychoticwarrior> what are you upgrading to?
[18:16] <ioria> Dbugger,  just comment out in /etc/fstab , and remove from cryptabb
[18:16] <ioria> *commnet
[18:16] <Dbugger> ioria, what is exactly what I have to comment out?
[18:16] <nicomachus> psychoticwarrior: he's just upgrading kernel to fix some package install issues. Under control.
[18:16] <Dbugger> which line?
[18:16] <psychoticwarrior> ok right on'
[18:16] <psychoticwarrior> you may have to also dpkg --configure a
[18:16] <TBotNik> nicomachus: I'm not that strong of an admin, but the only one here that knows Linux, so my baby by default.
[18:17] <psychoticwarrior> i think thats the config
[18:17] <ioria> Dbugger,  sorry, comment not comment out : this /dev/mapper/cryptswap
[18:17] <nicomachus> TBotNik: ok, well let me know when it's done upgrading.
[18:17] <Dbugger> ioria, you want me to "comment out" this line: "/dev/mapper/cryptswap1 none swap sw 0 0" ?
[18:18] <ioria> Dbugger,  comment with '#'
[18:18] <Dbugger> ok done
[18:18] <ioria> Dbugger,  and in /etc/crypttab
[18:18] <TBotNik> nicomachus: It runs DBs: Ingres, MySQL & PostGres.  I'm also installing PostFix, due to mail filtering issues.
[18:18] <Dbugger> ioria, ok, both commented out. Should I reboot and check if the problem is gone?
[18:19] <ioria> let's try
[18:19] <Dbugger> brb
[18:19] <nicomachus> TBotNik: that reminds me. what version of MySQL did you say you had running?
[18:19] <TBotNik> nicomachus: surprise, last few upgrade runs had most updated/upgraded so finished already! Yeah!
[18:20] <nicomachus> TBotNik: no errors?
[18:21] <TBotNik> nicomachus: Copying to PB!
[18:21] <Dbugger> Hello I am back
[18:21] <Dbugger> 2 things: a good one and a bad one
[18:21] <Dbugger> ioria, The boot up was MUCH faster
[18:21] <Dbugger> that is the good one
[18:22] <ioria> the bad one ?
[18:22] <Dbugger> the bad one... on the huge flash of green "PASSED" I saw a couple of times an orange and red one, which seems to be the same as before
[18:22] <Dbugger> Which makes me suspect there is something still not working
[18:23] <ioria> Dbugger,  huge flash of green "PASSED"
[18:23] <Dbugger> if I do "systemctl status swapfile.swap", I still get a "Failed to activate swap /swapfile"
[18:23] <Dbugger> ioria, sorry, I do not know the official name, for all those green PASSED that appear on boot up :)
[18:23] <psychoticwarrior> bypassed linux with init=/bin/bash
[18:23] <ioria> Dbugger,  that is a valide swapfile ?
[18:24] <ioria> Dbugger,  booting in text mode ?
[18:24] <TBotNik> nicomachus: PB at: pastebin.com/DA6kuLcY
[18:24] <psychoticwarrior> you mean init 1
[18:24] <Dbugger> ioria, i took out the "quiet splash" to see what was going on
[18:25] <TBotNik> nicomachus: The only thing I see in this is at the end of the apt-get update it suggests autoremove, so running now
[18:25] <ioria> Dbugger,  du -sH /swapfile
[18:25] <Dbugger> ok
[18:25] <Dbugger> "2097156	/swapfile"
[18:25] <nicomachus> TBotNik: yea autoremove is fine. Everything else looks good.
[18:26] <ioria> Dbugger,  are you still using this : /mnt/1GiB.swap swap swap defaults 0 0
[18:26] <Dbugger> ioria, how can I find out?
[18:26] <ioria> Dbugger,  fstab or mount
[18:26] <ioria> brb
[18:26] <EriC^^> Dbugger: cat /etc/fstab
[18:27] <Dbugger> ioria, EriC^^ , i can see /mnt/1GiB.swap in my fstab
[18:27] <Dbugger> so I guess I am indeed using it
[18:30] <ConsoleFx> Hi, I am trying to install powerline and configured my bash thus it loads the powerline components. Unfortunately it still lacks that arrow style and stuff. I followed the installation process mentioned here but dono what I might be missing. Any ideas?
[18:30] <ConsoleFx> Screenshot: https://ibb.co/hT7Jjv
[18:31] <nicomachus> ConsoleFx: what's powerline?
[18:31] <nicomachus> you might try asking them... this seems like a question for their support, not at all related to Ubuntu
[18:34] <ConsoleFx> nicomachus, aah I was trying that on Ubuntu actually. Though it works pretty well on Ubuntu.
[18:34] <nicomachus> ConsoleFx: just because you're doing it on Ubuntu doesn't mean the problem is Ubuntu related. Sounds like a config issue, unrelated to Ubuntu. I'd try finding some powerline support if I were you.
[18:35] <oerheks> powerline is in our repos, tons of manuals online .. maybe you need the fonts packages?
[18:35] <oerheks> https://ubuntu-mate.community/t/installing-powerline-as-quickly-as-possible/5381  https://askubuntu.com/questions/283908/how-can-i-install-and-use-powerline-plugin
[18:35] <oerheks> on the ubuntu url, you find the font addon
[18:36] <nicomachus> ConsoleFx: ^
[18:36] <oerheks> powerlinesymbols
[18:36] <oerheks> * do this systemwide, much easier
[18:37] <rory> ConsoleFx: it's not enough to simply install the fonts, you also need to select one of the powerline-patched fonts in your terminal
[18:37] <rory> ConsoleFx: installing the fonts just makes them available on the system for ubuntu applications to use
[18:37] <ioria> Dbugger,  i'd comment that too, and start over
[18:37] <ConsoleFx> rory, I enabled one of the patched font via gnome-terminal though
[18:37] <ConsoleFx> rory, all its missing is that arrow mark and stuff
[18:38] <rory> are you sure it's enabled, the old one will be there too. e.g. if you installed sourcecodepro patched font, you will have both "source code pro" and "source code pro for powerline"
[18:38] <rory> some font dropdowns will truncate the name so be sure you selected the right one
[18:39] <psychoticwarrior> updating kali
[18:39] <psychoticwarrior> updating ubuntu
[18:40] <psychoticwarrior> triple boot kicks ass!!!
[18:40] <oerheks> !ot | like we need to know that, psychoticwarrior
[18:40] <psychoticwarrior> ok my bad
[18:40] <psychoticwarrior> just getting carried away
[18:40] <Jordan_U> Dbugger: The reason that /swapfile is failing is because /swapfile isn't formatted as a swap file. "sudo mkswap /swapfile" should do it, but your situation is so odd, and we have no idea how it got that way, which makes me wand to suggest re-installing. Possibly this time when you install this channel can help you through the process.
[18:41] <Jordan_U> s/wand/want/
[18:42] <mingdao> psychoticwarrior: reporting in mate
[18:42] <ConsoleFx> rory, http://imgur.com/a/TF4u9
[18:43] <psychoticwarrior> hey mingdao
[18:44] <Dbugger> ioria, I will try that command you said
[18:44] <Dbugger> Jordan_U, I meant
[18:45] <Dbugger> gonna reboot
[18:45] <whoami1> latest issue
[18:45] <whoami1> while upgrade getting an error of hash mismatch
[18:45] <whoami1> when will it be fix?
[18:46] <Dbugger> Jordan_U, ioria, thanks! It worked
[18:46] <oerheks> whoami1, use a pastebin to show us the upgrade errors please
[18:46] <oerheks> !paste
[18:46] <Dbugger> It is all green :)
[18:46] <Dbugger> And boot up was blazing fast :)
[18:46] <ioria> Dbugger,  mm, ok good job
[18:46] <rory> oerheks: please put the output of this onto http://paste.ubuntu.com - sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade
[18:46] <Dbugger> ioria, to you! I only followed your advices!
[18:47] <Dbugger> "systemctl" now gives me a green state :)
[18:47] <ioria> Dbugger,  good
[18:47] <Dbugger> Thanks ioria. Thanks Jordan_U
[18:47] <ioria> Dbugger,  you're welcome
[18:47] <Dbugger> I gotta say... #ubuntu is one of the friendliest channels in IRC
[18:47] <Dbugger> Always kind people ready to help
[18:48] <Dbugger> thanks a lot, fellas :)
[18:48] <oerheks> rory, http://paste.ubuntu.com/25271610/
[18:48] <oerheks> not sure why .. but oke
[18:48] <TBotNik> nicomachus: All the time I have today.  Will make another run at it tomorrow!
[18:48] <whoami1> oerheks: https://pastebin.com/MQ49038B check it
[18:49] <whoami1> the hash mismatch thing
[18:49] <oerheks> whoami1, oke, nothing to worry about, your mirror seems te be updated now, try changing to the main server in sources, or wait a few minutes
[18:49] <psychoticwarrior> software update
[18:49] <psychoticwarrior> updater
[18:50] <psychoticwarrior> select main server
[18:50] <rory> Sounds like it got fixed by "apt-get update" which gets the latest update information from the update servers whoami1
[18:50] <nicomachus> TBotNik: I thought you were all fixed up. Whoops. I'm going to lunch anyway.
[18:50] <whoami1> oerheks: so what should i do?
[18:50] <psychoticwarrior> apt update
[18:50] <Jordan_U> Dbugger: You're welcome :)
[18:50] <psychoticwarrior> apt upgrade
[18:50] <whoami1> wait or i have to change the server?
[18:50] <psychoticwarrior> apt dist-upgrade
[18:50] <rory> generally you would always run apt-get update before doing anything that involves fetching packages from the net. or use the graphical update utility
[18:50] <psychoticwarrior> apt full-upgrade
[18:51] <whoami1> psychoticwarrior: I have already done that
[18:51] <psychoticwarrior> ok
[18:51] <rory> no whoami1 you're all done now. your dist-upgrade (or apt full-upgrade) will work
[18:51] <whoami1> but again the same thing is happening
[18:51] <oerheks> in india mirror can be 1-2 days behind https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+archivemirrors
[18:51] <psychoticwarrior> what is it thats happening whoami1
[18:51] <rory> oh
[18:51] <whoami1> rory: sorry i didnot get you
[18:52] <whoami1> rory: can you tell me that again?
[18:52] <rory> whoami1: after running "apt-get update", do you still get the same error when running "apt-get dist-upgrade" ?
[18:52] <whoami1> oerheks: so i have to wait two more days to fix it?
[18:53] <rory> That isn't the problem
[18:53] <whoami1> rory: yes same thing is happening
[18:53] <rory> I can see it's not trying to download from an Indian mirror
[18:53] <oerheks> whoami1, just wait a few minutes, or change your update server to main
[18:53] <whoami1> ok
[18:54] <rory> OK whoami1 please run this only: sudo apt-get clean"
[18:54] <oerheks> or other india mirror to madras uni
[18:54] <psychoticwarrior> apt-get clean
[18:54] <psychoticwarrior> apt-get autoclean
[18:54] <psychoticwarrior> apt-get update
[18:54] <psychoticwarrior> apt upgrade
[18:54] <psychoticwarrior> apt dist-upgrade
[18:54] <whoami1> oerheks: i am making the change
[18:54] <rory> ^^^^^^^
[18:55] <rory> 99% of apt problems fixed by the above
[18:55] <rory> does "apt dist-upgrade" work I thought it was "apt full-upgrade"
[18:55] <SubatomicParticl> Really, rory? That cleans apt's cache out to fix it?
[18:55] <whoami1> psychoticwarrior: i have already tried those from the forum
[18:55] <psychoticwarrior> try running software and updates
[18:56] <whoami1> no it is apt dist-upgrade
[18:56] <psychoticwarrior> change it to the main server
[18:56] <rory> I thought maybe, there is some partially downloaded or corrupted file, and apt is not overwiriting it, but nor is it downloading a new one
[18:56] <whoami1> psychoticwarrior: yes now am changing it
[18:56] <psychoticwarrior> ok
[18:56] <whoami1> now its updating its cache
[18:56] <psychoticwarrior> good
[18:56] <rory> apt full-upgrade is the command, but it also works with "apt dist-upgrade" to keep compatiblity with the apt-get command
[18:56] <rory> I checked :P
[18:56] <psychoticwarrior> whoami1 hopefully it updates the cahce
[18:56] <psychoticwarrior> cache
[18:57] <whoami1> yes
[18:57] <whoami1> if its done then it will be fixed
[18:57] <psychoticwarrior> did it work?
[18:57] <whoami1> yes its done
[18:57] <whoami1> i mean cache updating is done
[18:57] <psychoticwarrior> great whoami1
[18:58] <psychoticwarrior> sweet
[18:58] <whoami1> now i have to run again
[18:58] <psychoticwarrior> ok
[18:58] <SubatomicParticl> How do I unlock dpkg's lock since nothing is running? It's saying something is (update of some sort?) but I don't see anything. I'll check system monitor first, though, to be sure.
[18:59] <psychoticwarrior> ps aux
[18:59] <whoami1> nope again the same
[18:59] <psychoticwarrior> check the problem
[18:59] <psychoticwarrior> kill <ps>
[18:59] <psychoticwarrior> whoami1 whats the problem
[18:59] <whoami1> hash mismatch
[18:59] <psychoticwarrior> ok
[19:00] <psychoticwarrior> have you ever tried synaptic
[19:00] <nicomachus> SubatomicParticl: easiest way, honestly, is to reboot.
[19:00] <whoami1> nope i dont use that
[19:00] <psychoticwarrior> ok
[19:00] <psychoticwarrior> try updating again and upgrade
[19:00] <SubatomicParticl> Thanks, nicomachus. I'll be back in about 2 minutes - tops - then.
[19:01] <whoami1> again hash sum mismatch
[19:02] <psychoticwarrior> sudo rm -rf /var/lib/apt/lists/*
[19:02] <psychoticwarrior> try that ^
[19:02] <psychoticwarrior> then
[19:02] <whoami1> tried
[19:02] <psychoticwarrior> sudo apt update
[19:02] <whoami1> an i have also tried --fixed-update
[19:02] <psychoticwarrior> sudo apt-get clean
[19:02] <psychoticwarrior> sudo apt-get update
[19:03] <Jordan_U> whoami1: Have you tried switching to the us mirrors?
[19:03] <psychoticwarrior> sudo rm -rf /var/lib/apt/lists/partial
[19:03] <psychoticwarrior> sudo apt-get update -o Acquire::CompressionTypes::Order::=gz
[19:03] <whoami1> Jordan_U: I have switched to the main server
[19:04] <psychoticwarrior> software and updates other software uncheck all the boxes then sudo apt-get update
[19:04] <B14CK-SPID3R> hey guys, i could install ubuntu 17.04 with "nomodeset option" but now in ubuntu everything is slow , grub opens animatedly .. and everything has shown slowly. how can i solve this problem? is this related to my graphic card (nvidia 960m)>
[19:04] <B14CK-SPID3R> ?
[19:04] <whoami1> psychoticwarrior: yes its by default unchecked
[19:05] <psychoticwarrior> ok
[19:05] <SubatomicParticl> And I'm back. It worked, nicomachus. Thanks.
[19:05] <whoami1> psychoticwarrior: i have tried that sudo apt-get update -o Acquire::CompressionTypes::Order::=gz
[19:05] <whoami1> but again
[19:05] <whoami1> same hash sum mismatch
[19:05] <whoami1> wait am back in a hour
[19:05] <psychoticwarrior> try rebooting
[19:06] <Jordan_U> B14CK-SPID3R: nomodeset essentially disables the open source graphics drivers, leaving you with no hardware acceleration at all. If you install the proprietary Nvidia drivers via the "Additional Drivers" section of "Software and Updates" it may get you going smoothly.
[19:08] <B14CK-SPID3R> Jordan_U: Thank you. i'll be try it.
[19:08] <Jordan_U> B14CK-SPID3R: You're welcome.
[19:09] <psychoticwarrior> whoami1 any luck
[19:10] <Jordan_U> Now I'm wondering if whoami1 was just behind a captive portal. Hopefully if they come back someone will mention that possibility.
[19:12] <Jordan_U> If whoami1 comes back, please ask if they can successfully go to http://google.com (or any other site) in a web browser on the affected machine.
[19:13] <SubatomicParticl> Sure thing.
[19:17] <acresearch> people, i have a .NEF image file that i want to convert to jpg, how can i do it? i have ubuntu 17.04 gnome
[19:19] <psychoticwarrior> whats up
[19:20] <ioria> acresearch, imagemagick and convert not working ?
[19:20] <acresearch> ioria: no
[19:20] <acresearch> ioria: convert-im6.q16: delegate failed
[19:21] <ioria> that's not .nef
[19:27] <acresearch> ioria: my commands is: convert 205.NEF 1.jpg
[19:27] <ioria> oh, ok
[19:28] <acresearch> ioria: did i write it wrong?
[19:29] <ioria> acresearch nope
[19:31] <ioria> acresearch convert -list format | grep -i nef
[19:32] <acresearch> ioria:       NEF  DNG       r--   Nikon Digital SLR Camera Raw Image File
[19:33] <ioria> !info ufraw
[19:34] <ioria> !info ufraw-batch
[19:35] <ioria> acresearch   https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/226900/converting-nef-to-jpg    (btw, never converted such an image)
[19:35] <psychoticwarrior> synaptic rules
[19:36] <duckgoose> >:[
[19:36] <acresearch> ioria: i get the same error
[19:36] <duckgoose> I'm mad >:[
[19:37] <bumbar_> why would w command list kworker, and why does it have ip?
[19:38] <acresearch> ioria: the link you sent me has no solution.
[19:38] <ioria> acresearch  try rawtherapee
[19:41] <acresearch> ioria: works thanks
[19:41] <ioria> a very quick guy
[20:03] <cluelessperson> hey guys, do you by change know how to emulate a usb keyboard from the pc, to a USB connected device, like an ipod/phone?
[20:06] <oerheks> cluelessperson, are you sure an ipod/iphon thingy supports that? i have no clue if that could be done, you are the 1st one asking
[20:06] <fedorafan> I dont think its supported but the idea is nice
[20:06] <oerheks> usb-pass-through something like that?
[20:07] <fedorafan> he needs an interface to recognize the keyboardinputs
[20:07] <fedorafan> iphone is very restricted
[20:07] <oerheks> fedorafan, that too, ofcourse
[20:07] <oerheks> maybe it supports bt keyboards
[20:07] <fedorafan> yeah thats a way
[20:11] <Knight2016> Hi
[20:11] <Knight2016> you know how irc clients shares your username
[20:11] <Knight2016> Does your logged in username get shared by other apps?
[20:12] <Knight2016> I'm wondering if I should use my actual name as my machine user's name or an alias like i've done here
[20:12] <oerheks> depends on the client, how or if it handles/grabs your current $USER
[20:13] <Southern_Gentlem> Knight2016,that is up to you, i do not know of irc sharing info but that wouldnt stop someone else from doing a whois and getting that info and using it
[20:13] <oerheks> $user is the technical datastring for your username
[20:13] <oerheks> Knight2016, feel free to choose your name
[20:14] <oerheks> * unless in use, then the service makes you Guest+number
[20:14] <Knight2016> Just wondered if it usernames are freely disclosed by other apps
[20:14] <Southern_Gentlem> Knight2016,  define apps
[20:15] <Knight2016> google chrome mostly
[20:15] <Southern_Gentlem> can there be a bot in irc harvesting that info yes
[20:15] <oerheks> No, but apps can read $USER, not really restricted information
[20:16] <Knight2016> That's fine
[20:17] <arooni> how can i use ufw to enable access to port 8989 but only when i'm at my home network and when i'm in public wifi dont allow that port
[20:18] <Knight2016> Oh i can just use my first initial, that's even better
[20:19] <dckx> hi all. After updating my system, it seems my touchpad's properties are no longer controlled by /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d/50-synaptics.conf. In fact, that file does not exist anymore. Where may I found the file that consolidates the settings of the touchpad?
[20:20] <oerheks> arooni, i am tinking something like this:  ufw alow in on eth1 to <ip> port 8989
[20:20] <Southern_Gentlem> dckx, gnome by default uses libinput
[20:20] <Southern_Gentlem> nm wrong channel
[20:20] <oerheks> you can specify the adapter for that port, so if you run on wired @ home..
[20:22] <arooni> oerheks: only issue is i connnect wirelessly @ home
[20:22] <arooni> so specifying the adapter wouldnt seem to help right
[20:23] <tkr> Hi! I'm running ubuntu 16 on a separate ssd. I recently bought an m2 ssd. is there a way that I could install ubuntu 17 on the new m2 ssd without making installation media (ie. dvd, usb, boot from network) ? # sorry for repeating if someone saw the question earlier
[20:23] <tkr> ie. I'd like to do something like "./install-ubuntu /dev/nvme0n1"
[20:24] <oerheks> arooni, right, then the SSID should be used, not sure how..
[20:24] <arooni> oerheks: is this made any easier if i connect to a VPN ?
[20:24] <arooni> because then all wireless would go through tun interface?
[20:25] <EriC^^> tkr: you can make partitions and copy over the exact install and bootloader or if the disk is the exact size you can just clone it
[20:26] <arooni> oerheks: apparently i can list the ip address that a connection is allowed from
[20:26] <tkr> EriC^^: I want a new install.
[20:27] <tkr> EriC^^: just wondering, if I have to build a bootable media device just for installing.
[20:27] <EriC^^> tkr: you'll need to download an iso and boot it somehow
[20:27] <tkr> Nods.
[20:27] <EriC^^> not necessarily
[20:27] <tkr> Just checking.
[20:27] <EriC^^> you can boot the iso from grub
[20:28] <tkr> That still includes booting. :) I'm well capable of installing linuxes, just checking in case for new advances.
[20:28] <EriC^^> if you dont have an empty usb at hand
[20:29] <EriC^^> ok :)
[20:29] <tkr> After all, thinking that you have a running Ubuntu, it really doesn't *sound* that complex to just tell this running system to install a new ubuntu on an existing empty hard disk. :)
[20:30] <tkr> (while running)
[20:30] <EriC^^> tkr: yeah it doesn't sound so complex
[20:30] <oerheks> arooni, cannot find an example with SSID .. perhaps vpn is a better choise
[20:30] <tkr> EriC^^: anyhow, I'm not in a hurry with this. I'll just make a ubuntu 17 install media and use it to install it on my new m2 ssd. :)
[20:30] <arooni> oerheks: if i'm on a vpn; does that mean that all connections will be made thru the tun interface?
[20:31] <cmanns> I just wanted share my opinion on ubuntu on this setup.
[20:31] <cmanns> Client: HexChat 2.12.4 • OS: Ubuntu "zesty" 17.04 • CPU: Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-5820K CPU @ 3.30GHz (2.74GHz) • Memory: Physical: 7.5 GiB Total (4.4 GiB Free) Swap: 2.0 GiB Total (2.0 GiB Free) • Storage: 68.3 GB / 1.0 TB (936.8 GB Free) • VGA: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] Curacao XT / Trinidad XT [Radeon R7 370 / R9 270X/370X] @ Intel Corporation Xeon E7 v3/Xeon E5 v3/Core i7
[20:31] <cmanns>  DMI2 • Uptime: 2h 58m 37s
[20:31] <cmanns> with my average loads on MacOS (hackint0sh) and Windows 10 LTSB N Enterprise, I find cpu utilization is almost in HALF. This is with flash intensive chrome tabs and other applications. No idea what ghz my cpu is going at but Win/mac it's normally 8-10% utilized at a minimum at 1.2-2.0 ghz. The GUI is super snappy even with 3d programs open.
[20:31] <tkr> EriC^^: Forever I've used debian, but now forced to ubuntu since cuda packages are release for ubuntu.
[20:41] <zmc> Yet again I have a non-booting system because of systemd, does the upstart or sysv teams  need help? This is unacceptable.
[20:50] <dckx> sorry for reppeating my question. Does anyone know where are my touchpad settings if the file where they used to be (/usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d/50-synaptics.conf) no longer exists? The file disappeared after I installed a system update. And with it, also disappeared my custom settings regarding click and tap button 3, vertical and horizontal hysteresis, etc.
[20:57] <alexac> sorry how was it to install .deb package from a terminal window, again?
[20:57] <EriC^^> sudo dpkg -i /path/to/den
[20:57] <EriC^^> *deb
[20:57] <alexac> thank you Eric^^
[20:57] <EriC^^> no problem
[21:01] <nicomachus> hi all. I'm trying to start Chromium over an SSH -X session, and am getting some errors: https://paste.ubuntu.com/25272351/
[21:02] <nicomachus> not sure about what the exact error is, unless it's just that there's no GTK session running on pickett-desktop
[21:03] <wedgie> do other applications work?
[21:04] <zmc> nicomachus: I've had better luck using ssh -YC also hardware acceleration, if enabled in chrome can cause an issue over remote X
[21:04] <nicomachus> zmc: this is -YC, my bad.
[21:04] <arooni> dumb question: with a openvpn connection to a server on public wifi with my laptop;  does that mean that any open ports i might have are blocked
[21:05] <nicomachus> wedgie: looks like the same errors. immediately throws "Failed to load module "unity-gtk-module""
[21:05] <nicomachus> I don't think I actually logged in the user last time I rebooted this machine... not sure if I can do that remotely to get the GTK session started. bummer.
[21:05] <arooni>  or are rules like [11] 445                        ALLOW IN    192.168.0.0/16 ;; still going to let me get burned if someone on the public wifi tries to connect to that port
[21:06] <zmc> arooni: Openvpn creates a tunnel to the server, and a virtual interface.  It has nothing to do with what ports are open on your computer's wireless interface. Either shutdown unneeded services or firewall.
[21:06] <nicomachus> !info ufw | arooni
[21:06] <arooni> sounds like i need to be more specific with my samba rules
[21:06] <arooni> and prescriptive about which ips i allow to connect
[21:07] <zmc> nicomachus: You can try using dbus-launch to setup a session. I remember something about that before I'll try to find a link
[21:07] <zmc> https://superuser.com/questions/1003950/how-to-reliably-attach-to-session-dbus-over-ssh
[21:09] <zmc> arooni: Ip-based rules won't help you on an untrusted wifi.  You have no control over what network you will attach to or what addresses are in use.
[21:10] <arooni> zmc: sounds like i need separate rules for untrusted wifi
[21:10] <arooni> zmc; is there a way via ubuntu to have bias against untrusted wifi networks and have a different set of firewall rules
[21:10] <zmc> arooni: Sounds like a good idea.  You can still get in trouble if the wifi network and vpn networks use the same address space.
[21:11] <zmc> arooni: afaik ubuntu won't connect to a wifi network without you telling it to.
[21:11] <arooni> zmc: i dont mind that ; i just wish there was a way to 'trust' certain networks and have evverything else untrusted have firewall rules applied
[21:12] <nicomachus> zmc: even with `dbus-launch --exit-with-session /bin/bash`, I still get 'Failed to load module "unity-gtk-module"'
[21:12] <nicomachus> crashes with the same errors as before.
[21:12] <zmc> arooni: There are on-connect scripts that you can setup to run after connecting on a per-network basis iirc.
[21:13] <arooni> zmc: do you recommed one?
[21:14] <zmc> arooni: I'd start here: https://askubuntu.com/questions/13963/call-script-after-connecting-to-a-wireless-network
[21:17] <zmc> nicomachus: I imagine chrome runs fine if you run it locally on the target machine?
[21:18] <nicomachus> idk, I never run anything on that locally. It's a raspberry pi mounted to the back of my entertainment center at home. It's quite a bit of work to hook a keyboard up to it whenever I do need to do something. Lol. It has worked in the past, though.
[21:18] <zmc> nicomachus: Ah, do you have unity-gtk2-module installed?
[21:24] <zmc> nicomachus: Also worst case scenario, you can just install strace, and run "strace chrome > debug" then take a look at the end of that file to try to find the failing syscall
[21:25] <arooni> question;  i have ubuntu 16.04 and in the terminal app i'm not seeing a combined menubar i.e. drag it to the top and i see two maximize and two minimize buttons etc
[21:25] <arooni> i.e. a  ddouble menu bar
[21:30] <nicomachus> zmc: I'll just wait until I get home in an hour.
[21:31] <zmc> nicomachus: Ok.  I seem to remember having this problem in the past. I just can't remember offhand how I solved it.
[21:42] <nicomachus> I'll solve it by logging in on the pi, I guess.
[21:42] <nicomachus> I only have to reboot it like once a year.
[21:42] <ninjai> I have a folder that is group-writeable (chmod'd to 775) but when my user tried to create a file in the directory (user has this group listen when the "groups" command is entered), I get permission denied.  Any ideas? https://pastebin.com/szZhPBvx
[21:42] <nacc> ninjai: was the user recnelty added to group?
[21:42] <ninjai> yes and i've exited and started a new SSH session and everything, no dice
[21:42] <nacc> ninjai: also, they may not have permission higher up the chain (e.g, in /home/aihs)
[21:43] <zlsyx> Is there a way to replace text real time in the shell?
[21:43] <zlsyx> Suppose I write fn I want it to be converted to function.
[21:43] <zlsyx> ?
[21:43] <nacc> zlsyx: converted where/when?
[21:43] <ninjai> nacc, but the sub-folder "test" they do have write permissions to. How does the parent affect it if I'm already sitting in that directory?
[21:44] <zlsyx> @nacc In the shell, fn[SPACE] should be converted to function.
[21:44] <zlsyx> @nacc  In the shell, fn[SPACE] should be converted to function.
[21:44] <zlsyx> Sorry for double IM xD
[21:45] <nacc> ninjai: to create a file somewhere, you have to permissions to write along the path (iirc). You could check that with strace, I suppose
[21:46] <nacc> ninjai: being in a directory does not mean you can write to any directory, it means you can x it (and possibly read it)
[21:46] <ninjai> nacc, then how does any user write to their own home folder if the user doens't have write access to /
[21:46] <nacc> ninjai: i might be wrong :)
[21:46] <ninjai> specifically
[21:46] <ninjai> drwsrwxr-x
[21:46] <ninjai> the 2 W's in a row
[21:46] <ninjai> 1st is for owner
[21:46] <ninjai> second is for group
[21:47] <ninjai> so user and group should be able to write there
[21:47] <nacc> ninjai: have you straced it?
[21:48] <nacc> zlsyx: i don't know of a trivial way. You can use an alias so fn is the same as function
[21:48] <ninjai> no, what does that do?
[21:48] <nacc> ninjai: it will trace the system calls and provide you with what is actually returning EPERM
[21:49] <ninjai> appears I don't have that command
[21:49] <ninjai> and I don't feel like installing it on here lol
[21:50] <promet> if I had a custom script that required to be run as root, and I wanted to automate this script to start at boot, how would I provide that privilege escalation?
[21:51] <psychoticwarrior> startup applications
[21:51] <psychoticwarrior> add the script directory to it
[21:51] <psychoticwarrior> you should be good then
[21:52] <promet> psychoticwarrior, startup applications is able to start scripts as root? I wasn't aware of that.
[21:52] <promet> good if it does though
[21:52] <nacc> promet: normally, you'd make your script an init-script of some kind (e.g., systemd) and then it would run as root
[21:52] <psychoticwarrior> yea log in as root
[21:52] <psychoticwarrior> you should be good
[21:52] <nacc> psychoticwarrior: no, that's terrible advice, afaict
[21:52] <psychoticwarrior> startup applications
[21:52] <psychoticwarrior> it works for me
[21:52] <promet> nacc roger that
[21:53] <mingdao> psychoticwarrior: didn't notice your reply because I only get highlights if nick is first
[21:53] <psychoticwarrior> oh ok
[21:53] <psychoticwarrior> cool mingdao
[21:53] <mingdao> psychoticwarrior: got it installed, but the bootloader was not correct
[21:54] <psychoticwarrior> mingdao what does it say
[21:54] <mingdao> psychoticwarrior: finally searched for commands for grub> sheel
[21:54] <mingdao> psychoticwarrior: that allowed me to get it
[21:54] <psychoticwarrior> did u try grub-install?
[21:54] <mingdao> psychoticwarrior: hopefully tonight I'll do an install
[21:54] <psychoticwarrior> for real
[21:54] <mingdao> psychoticwarrior: yes, once it did the set root= <blah> and boot
[21:55] <psychoticwarrior> you could jsut try grub-install
[21:55] <psychoticwarrior> update-grub
[21:55] <psychoticwarrior> update-initramfs -u
[21:55] <mingdao> psychoticwarrior: I pulled the other 2 hard drives out, and installed it on another SSD...yes, those are the commands I used
[21:55] <psychoticwarrior> ok
[21:55] <mingdao> psychoticwarrior: now I have my Gentoo SSD and mSATA back in the laptop
[21:55] <mingdao> at work, gotta do work
[21:56] <psychoticwarrior> ok sounds good
[21:56] <mingdao> tonight I'll install it to the mSATA
[21:56] <psychoticwarrior> yea sounds good mingdao
[21:56] <psychoticwarrior> promet whats up man
[21:57] <ninjai> nacc, I have to use "newgrp" to change to that group apparently.  I don't understand.
[21:58] <nacc> ninjai: that would imply you have not logged out/in afaict
[22:00] <ninjai> nacc, that's what I figured... guess using SSH and su is not a good method of testing login/outs? Thing that is confusing though is that if I issue the "id" command after switching to that user, it shows the group there.
[22:00] <promet> psychoticwarrior, coming down with a cold I think. Which I am combating by drinking too much coffee :D
[22:01] <psychoticwarrior> damn
[22:01] <promet> This will not end well
[22:01] <psychoticwarrior> drink tea man
[22:01] <promet> lol
[22:01] <promet> psychoticwarrior, I usually do but am drinking coffee for "recreational purposes" today...
[22:01] <psychoticwarrior> ok cool
[22:04] <psychoticwarrior> promet where you from?
[22:15] <sam_uk> I'm halfwaty through an upgrade 16:10 > 17:4. Wine64tools depends on libwine-dev. apt --fix broken install suggests a solution but then gives errors 'subprocess paste was killed by signal (broken pipe) Is it fucked?
[22:15] <agentx04> :-X
[22:16] <sam_uk> I cant install aptitude due to broken packages. I have a terminal and a net connection
[22:20] <Bashing-om> !info libwine-dev zesty | sam_uk
[22:21] <sam_uk> wine1.7 depends on wine1.7-amd64 and vice versa so I cant remove either of them
[22:21] <XHFHX> Hi there. I somehow trashed my ubuntu 16.04.2 installation while I was messing with the nvidia drivers - the computer now freezes on the login screen after around 2 seconds, where I can't enter anything (I can't switch to the shell :/) botting to an old kernel also doesn't work. any recommendations what to do?
[22:22] <XHFHX> *booting
[22:23] <Bashing-om> sam_uk: Jow far did you gert in the upgrade process ? pastebin ' cat -n /etc/apt/sources.list ' . Make sure of what we have to work with .
[22:23] <sam_uk> Bashing-om: libwine-dev is not installable (depends libwine)
[22:23] <phelix> Anytime I try to run apache it keeps telling me that address is already in use. I then ran a  netstat -lp but doesn't show anything running on port 80
[22:23] <phelix> any ideas?
[22:23] <sam_uk> libwine depends on libwine:i386
[22:24] <agentx04> try other version | sam_uk
[22:25] <Bashing-om> !nomodeset | XHFHX
[22:25] <sam_uk> Bashing-om: can you pastebin from comand line?
[22:25] <nacc> Bashing-om: sam_uk: wine1.7 is the 16.10 version?
[22:25] <sam_uk> agentx04: other version of?
[22:26] <nacc> sam_uk: I think you'd need to remove them together (if that is the underlying issue)
[22:26] <sam_uk> nacc: sure, any idea how?
[22:26] <agentx04> for architec x64
[22:26] <agentx04> not i368
[22:26] <nacc> sam_uk: `sudo apt remove wine1.7 wine1.7-amd64` ?
[22:26] <Bashing-om> sam_uk: ' cat -n /etc/apt/sources.list | nc termbin.com 9999 ' . We do nothing til we know where we are pulling from.
[22:27] <nacc> Bashing-om: good point
[22:27] <nacc> Bashing-om: yeah, could be a mixed installation at this point, fi the upgrade failed
[22:28] <Bashing-om> nacc: I learned that from you :)
[22:29] <sam_uk> Bashing-om: termbin.com/decn
[22:29] <nacc> Bashing-om: heh
[22:30] <sam_uk> Zesty sources
[22:31] <nacc> hrm, odd to use both the archive and uk.archive mirror
[22:31] <nacc> also zesty-proposed?
[22:32] <sam_uk> nacc: yes looks like it: http://termbin.com/decn
[22:33] <Bashing-om> nacc: sam_uk +1 on propsed . let's not go there .
[22:33] <nacc> sam_uk: right, i'm looking at that already (that's what i gave my comments based on)
 now I boot into a black screen but I can now enter the shell
[22:35] <sam_uk> Any route out of this dependency muddle?
[22:36] <nacc> sam_uk: what happens if you try to remove both?
[22:37] <sam_uk> unmet dependencies (a few) is there a way to pastebin that output?
[22:37] <nacc> sam_uk: you're not currently able to install anything?
[22:37] <EriC^^> sam_uk: add | nc termbin.com 9999 to the command
[22:37] <nacc> EriC^^: nice call
[22:37] <sam_uk> no, I don't think so.
[22:38] <Bashing-om> XHFHX:  EFI system ? If NOT Try a fast fix ( in the blind ) ' sudo apt purge nvidia* ; sudo rm /etc/X11/xorg.conf ' sudo apt update ; sudo apt upgrade ; sudo ubuntu-drivers autoinstall ' .
[22:39] <sam_uk> EriC^^: doesn't seem to work 'WARNING: apt does not have stable CLI interface'
[22:39] <nacc> sam_uk: that's ok, just warning
[22:39] <nacc> sam_uk: it should spit out a url at termbin.com
[22:40] <EriC^^> sam_uk: what command are you trying to send?
[22:40] <nacc> EriC^^: apt remove ...
[22:40] <EriC^^> did it give you a link back?
[22:41] <EriC^^> you might need to use |& nc termbin.com 9999 to send stderr as well
[22:41] <XHFHX> Bashing-om: UEFI but secure boot is disabled
[22:41] <sam_uk> EriC^^: apt remove wine1.7 wine1.7-amd64
[22:41] <Mylon> Help.  I'm trying to upgrade my 16.04 install to a 17.04 one and, in the live boot install process, it froze at the partition screen.
[22:42] <Bashing-om> XHFHX: Good to go then . run the above and reboot to see the effect .
[22:42] <XHFHX> k
[22:42] <Mylon> It was complaining about needing a 32 mb boot partition or something or other so I unallocated some space from the main partition (went okay) but it still complained so I tried deleting the boot partition and now ... It finally accepted the request to cancel.  Bah.
[22:43] <Mylon> Maybe it'll work this time...
[22:43] <sam_uk> EriC^^: the & doesn't seem to make a difference, still no URL
[22:43] <EriC^^> sam_uk: try sudo apt-get remove wine1.7 wine1.7-amd64 | nc termbin.com 9999
[22:43] <Bashing-om> Mylon: nvidia graphics ? nomodeset in that case .
[22:45] <sam_uk> EriC^^: Thanks: http://termbin.com/c1pg
[22:46] <Mylon> Bleh, I can't figure out how to make it stop complaining about the partitions... I'll just wipe the whole drive.
[22:46] <EriC^^> sam_uk: try sudo apt-get -f remove wine1.7 wine1.7-amd64
[22:46] <EriC^^> Mylon: what complaining?
[22:47] <Mylon> Something about needing a second boo partition with 35MB free or something.
[22:47] <Mylon> I dunno.
[22:47] <EriC^^> Mylon: that sounds like you booted the install in legacy mode by mistake
[22:47] <Mylon> I'm installing from the live boot option.
[22:48] <EriC^^> Mylon: when it booted, did you get a tiny set of pc's at the bottom of the screen? or a black and white grub screen?
[22:48] <Mylon> And... It crashed.
[22:48] <Mylon> I'm looking at a normal-ish desktop with what looks like a taskbar on the left.
[22:49] <EriC^^> Mylon: open a terminal and type "sudo blkid /dev/sd* && ls /sys/firmware/efi"
[22:49] <XHFHX> Bashin-om: Now it boots to the splash screen but still freezes there w/o any input available. If I boot it with nomodeset i get to the black screen with a cursor but where i can still get into shell
[22:49] <EriC^^> let me know if it says GPT next to PTTYPE and if ls returns a bunch of dirs or says dir not found
[22:49] <XHFHX> *Bashing-om
[22:50] <sam_uk> EriC^^: unable to locate package wine1.7amd-64
[22:50] <EriC^^> sam_uk: ^ there's a typo
[22:51] <Mylon> EriC^: Returned nothing?
[22:52] <Bashing-om> XHFHX: Yukkie . What got installed . pastebin ' sudo lshw -C display ; dpkg -l | grep -i nvidia ' . See where we go from here .
[22:52] <sam_uk> EriC^^: http://termbin.com/oqq9
[22:55] <EriC^^> Mylon: type "sudo parted -l | nc termbin.com 9999"
[22:56] <EriC^^> sam_uk: do you want to remove wine completely?
[22:57] <sam_uk> EriC^^: More than happy to, not used it in years
[22:57] <Mylon> The installer worked this time... Still using the erase disk option which is suboptimal (there's nothing I care about on this computer but I would still like to know how to do an in place install for future cases)
[22:58] <Mylon> Now it's just wating.
[22:58] <Mylon> Maybe I should do a memtest86+ test just in case.
[22:58] <EriC^^> sam_uk: try sudo apt-get -f remove wine1.7{,-amd64,-i386,-tools}
[22:59] <mingdao> EriC^^: thanks for the help on the grub> prompt stuff
[22:59] <XHFHX> Bashing-om: Pastebin doesnt work as I don't have a GUI right now. http://i.imgur.com/Ou3PADz.jpg
[22:59] <EriC^^> mingdao: no problem
[23:01] <hggdh> XHFHX: you can use pastebinit, it is command-line
[23:02] <Bashing-om> XHFHX: Ouch . dual nvidia cards (SLI ??) Out of my experience range / Ya got a driver loaded to one of the cards .
[23:02] <mdave16> hey
[23:02] <mdave16> test
[23:02] <mdave16> ok
[23:03] <XHFHX> Bashing-om: Nah, it's a laptop with an intel card and an nvidia card
[23:04] <Bashing-om> XHFHX: Shhessh .. tunnel vision . disregard me last . ! ..no driver loaded for the skylake card !
[23:04] <XHFHX> the last thing I did was switching with prime-select to nvidia - after that I got into trouble. and installing some nvidia drivers i think via apt-get was before that
[23:04] <sam_uk> EriC^^: unable to locate wine1.7-tools, couldn't find package by glob wine1.7-tools, unable to find by regex wine1.7-tools
[23:05] <EriC^^> sam_uk: oh sorry
[23:05] <EriC^^> sam_uk: try sudo apt-get -f remove wine1.7{,-amd64,-i386} wine64-tools
[23:05] <Bashing-om> XHFHX: Let;s see what we can do to load a driver for skylake .
[23:05] <sam_uk> without tools: http://termbin.com/ggxq
[23:06] <EriC^^> sam_uk: try sudo apt-get -f remove wine1.7{,-amd64,-i386} wine64-tools wine32:i386 wine64
[23:06] <Bashing-om> XHFHX: checking : https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-drivers-common/+bug/1565516 .
[23:07] <sam_uk> EriC^^: http://termbin.com/0fo9
[23:08] <XHFHX> Bashing-om: Sorry, I skipped trough it but it seems that you can't activate the nvidia card right now. I only need it for CUDA purposes if at all - but how can i switch to the skylake GPU back?
[23:10] <EriC^^> sam_uk: try the last one i posted
[23:10] <sam_uk> EriC^^: Output of that was: http://termbin.com/0fo9
[23:11] <sam_uk> oh sorry missed that
[23:11] <sam_uk> one sec
[23:12] <Bashing-om> XHFHX: Trying to pull from memory now about a skylake driver , bear with me :) ( maybe the PPA driver will work for nvidia ?) .
[23:12] <sam_uk> EriC^^: http://termbin.com/9yjg
[23:13] <EriC^^> sam_uk: wow the never ending wine packages
[23:13] <sam_uk> add wine-stable?
[23:13] <EriC^^> sam_uk: try sudo apt-get -f remove wine1.7{,-amd64,-i386} wine64-tools wine32:i386 wine64 wine-stable
[23:14] <EriC^^> yeah
[23:15] <sam_uk> this is looking promising :)
[23:15] <sam_uk> EriC^^: Thanks random stranger. Have a virtual beer.
[23:15] <Bashing-om> XHFHX: OK, try ' sudo apt install i965-va-driver ' - system is fully updated from above, correct ).
[23:15] <XHFHX> should be
[23:16] <XHFHX> is already installed
[23:17] <EriC^^> sam_uk: cheers
[23:18] <Bashing-om> XHFHX: Weel ! We wonder then why it does not load . any hints in the log file : ' cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | nc ternbin.com 9999 ' .
[23:22] <XHFHX> Bashin-om: http://paste.ubuntu.com/25273167/
[23:22] <Bashing-om> XHFHX: Reading - I be a while ;)
[23:25] <Bashing-om> XHFHX: Getting deep Here ! " (EE) Failed to load module "nvidia" (module does not exist, 0) " and also same for Intel " (EE) Failed to load module "intel" (module does not exist, 0) " .
[23:27] <XHFHX> Bashing-om: Doesnt sound good :D
[23:27] <Bashing-om> XHFHX: ^^ how are you setting the nomodeset boot parameter ? Maybe remove it and try a nornal boot - thought; can you disable the discreet card in bios and see if you can then boot ?
[23:28] <oerheks> 'messed with nvidiadrivers' ..
[23:29] <oerheks> How exactly?
[23:29] <XHFHX> prime-select nvidia and made sudo apt-get dist-upgrade and I think he pulled some nvidria drivers there (I have it in my repository)
[23:30] <XHFHX> Bashing-om: Without nomodeset I'll get a freezing login screen after 2 seconds
[23:30] <Bashing-om> oerheks: I see no fix : https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-drivers-common/+bug/1565516 . But that does not explain why the Intel driver does not build .
[23:31] <XHFHX> doesn't accept any keyboard input in this case so i can't get into the shell or fix anything
[23:33] <Bashing-om> XHFHX: I propose we work on getting the Intel driver to load and get you a working system - then work on nvidia . Can you disable nvidia in bios ?
[23:33] <arooni> i have some user accounts for different services but i see the option to log in as those users on startup;  how can i disable login for those service accounts
[23:34] <histo> arooni: Did you create the accounts?
[23:34] <arooni> histo: i did
[23:35] <histo> arooni: you can specify the -r flag with useradd
[23:35] <histo> arooni: and -s /bin/false to disable the shell
[23:35] <oerheks> arooni, hide the users list on login/lightdm? https://askubuntu.com/a/731455
[23:36] <arooni> histo: so once the account is already created
[23:36] <arooni> how do i modify it to disable the shell
[23:36] <histo> arooni: in the future sudo useradd -r -s /bin/false USERNAME
[23:37] <histo> arooni: usermod
[23:37] <XHFHX> Bashing-om: I think I'll just reinstall the whole system :/
[23:37] <arooni> histo: same flags work?
[23:38] <arooni> i.e. sudo usermod -r -s /bin/false username
[23:38] <XHFHX> can't deactivate the nvidia gpu in bios
[23:38] <jnewt> http://paste.ubuntu.com/25273228/  tried to install wine, that's what I got.do i need to install mariadb-server-10.0 & mariadb-server first or is this a problem with my libEGL.so.1 not being a symlink or both? and how to fix it?
[23:39] <histo> arooni: yes
[23:40] <jnewt> i checked that nvidia folder, I have a symlink from libEGL.so to libEGL.so.1, but no libEGL.so.1 but I don't know what either of those are for or what is the proper set of files in that folder.
[23:41] <Bashing-om> XHFHX: If a re-install is acceptable, will be the fastest . With the open bug I would suggest in the new Install to get the nvidia driver from the PPA .
[23:42] <XHFHX> Bashing-om: I followed this approach: https://github.com/Golovin-Andrey/xiaomi-mi-13-ubuntu
[23:42] <histo> arooni: or you could usermod -L USERNAME
[23:44] <Bashing-om> jnewt: Need to redo the symlinks : https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nvidia-graphics-drivers-375/+bug/1662860 .
[23:45] <jnewt> Bashing-om: yeah, found that got it done, still getting the mariadb error (but the libEGL is gone)
[23:47] <oerheks> XHFHX, sure you can blacklist nvidia, see intel only from the arch wiki https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Xiaomi_Mi_Notebook_Air_13.3
[23:47] <Bashing-om> XHFHX: This a minimal build and a ACER laptop ? and yes the link has our trusted driver PPA .
[23:49] <XHFHX> oerheks: always heard nice stuff of the arch wiki but never seen it before. its fabolous
[23:50] <jnewt> I found this: https://serverfault.com/questions/736419/cant-install-mariadb-dependency-error and ran apt-get clean (OK) apt-get autoclean (OK) and dpkg -i mariadb-server-10.0 (cannot access archive...) and dpkg-reconfigure mariadb-server-10.0 (mariadb-server-10.0 is broken or not fully installed)