[01:07] <bazhang> !hashes
[11:33] <sary> Salutations!
[11:37] <sary> Xubuntu 17.04 installer ubtiquity while installing grub-efi-amd-signed , https://imgur.com/gallery/n7DU4
[11:38] <sary> crashed.
[11:39] <diogenes_> I've had that issue on other distro, there's little you can do about it
[11:40] <sary> my first attempt was to install with/in USB BIOS lagecy mode , the boot got stuck at " A start job is running for ubuntu live cd installer ".
[11:40] <sary> that failed, so had to try in EFI mode.
[11:41] <sary> Well, am still on the live session and was offered to report a bug .. am loolking at launchpad page..
[11:42] <diogenes_> maybe you should try 16.04?
[11:44] <sary> here is the thing , this machine was flyin' 16.04 , whilst upgrading with do-release-upgrade , somehow it skiped 16.10 and went straight to 17.04 .. then it got stuck the display/login manager with no mouse/keyboard response.
[11:45] <diogenes_> sary, so reinstall the stable 16.04 and don't touch the upgrade-sist
[11:45] <diogenes_> dist*
[11:46] <sary> i want this machine to be on 17.10..
[11:46] <diogenes_> you said it was flying on 16.04?
[11:47] <sary> I'm not sure why you're trying to skip the fact that 17.04 is buggy..!
[11:47] <sary> correct.
[11:48] <diogenes_> I personally follow more conservative views, if I know that something works fine for me, what else do I need? why upgrade and have a broken system if my previous installation works fine?
[12:05] <knome> sary, 17.10 isn't released yet and it will likely have more bugs than 17.04
[12:15] <sary> diogenes_: sure that make sense , but that's not what one says to someone whois willing to test a rolling release.
[12:16] <diogenes_> sary, rolling release is a complete different story
[12:16] <sary> knome: Daily builds are out , and i doubt 17.10 will be as buggy as 17.04 , serch the web with " ubuntu bugs launchpad xubuntu 17.04 " and see ..!
[12:16] <sary> #1709306
[12:16] <Unit193> LP #1709306
[12:16] <sary> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/grub-installer/+bug/1709306
[12:17] <sary> diogenes_: Right.
[12:25] <knome> sary, you "doubt"? i'm sorry, but i'm pretty sure 17.10 has the chance to have a majority of the same bugs as 17.04 and some additional ones that have emerged from new packages. sure, some bugs have likely been fixed too.
[12:35] <sary> knome: cant you see how crucial it is for the installer to crash! how would you feel as a new user when faced with this..!
[12:35] <sary> anyway, thanks for your contribution , i should go try to install in legacy mode.
[12:36] <knome> i understand the frustration and yes i understand it's essential
[12:37] <sary> Well that's all i came here for, now that the bug is reported i suppose my job is done!
[12:37] <sary> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/grub-installer/+bug/1629348
[12:38] <sary> that an old bug that seems similar ..
[12:39] <sary> BTW what is the theme on the xubuntu 17.04 installer.. looks similar to elementary os .. but i didn't see it as a defualt in the installed system!
[12:40] <Unit193> If it makes you feel any better, ubiquity is maintained by the Ubuntu desktop team, not directly by Xubuntu devs.  The installer uses Greybird, the default theme.
[12:41] <sary> Unit193: thanks.
[21:28] <Mylon> So I installed some updates and after sleeping/waking, screen wouldn't turn on.  Ctrl-alt-f1 gave me a terminal so I used that to just restart.
[21:28] <Mylon> I got back to the gui and now wifi won't work.  Says device isn't ready.
[21:29] <Mylon> iwconfig lists wifi as device "wlo1", but if I type ifdown wlo1, it says not unknown interface.
[21:29] <diogenes_> tried restart one more time?
[21:30] <Mylon> I'll try it...
[21:31] <Mylon> if I can't figure out how to fix it I'll install 'vanilla' Ubunu 17.04.
[21:38] <Mylon> Nope, no luck with a restart.
[21:38] <diogenes_> tried: sudo service NetworkManager restart
[21:40] <Mylon> No luck.  The network connection gui still says device not ready.
[21:40] <diogenes_> sudo ifconfig
[21:40] <Mylon> Huh, wlo1 isn't there anymore.
[21:41] <diogenes_> interesting\
[21:41] <diogenes_> try sudo rfkill unblock all
[21:42] <Mylon> No change to ifconfig
[21:43] <diogenes_> if you have an installation media, you can try booting a live session and see if it works in there
[21:43] <Mylon> iwconfig shows the device, but ifconfig does not
[21:43] <diogenes_> have a look at available drivers
[21:44] <Mylon> I'm making a 17.04 media right now.
[21:46] <diogenes_> ok
[21:49] <Mylon> I have no idea if the user data partition will survive an install, but nothing important is on there so this might be an interesting experience.
[21:51] <diogenes_> if you have a separate /home partition then it will survive
[21:51] <Mylon> My other laptotp is running some weird hack of kubuntu with xfce installed over it and it behaves nothing like my problem computer...
[21:52] <Mylon> But then again, software packages aren't getting updated so it's gonna be a liability soon.
[22:08] <Mylon> And... It works.
[22:08] <Mylon> Except for this eyesore bar on the left side...
[22:12] <diogenes_> cool
[22:19] <Unit193> Mylon: First issue sounds like light-locker btw, there's a faq on the Xubuntu site listing solutions.
[22:22] <Mylon> Light-locker?
[22:34] <Mylon> Why oh why...
[22:34] <Mylon> Windows 10 reversed the direction of scrolling and Ubuntu 16.04 followed that move.